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00:00The story, it's a whodunit.
00:05It involves sex and power.
00:08You've got wealth and intrigue and hiding one's identity.
00:14There's two types of funeral directors.
00:16Some want to help people, and some are in this to take advantage of people.
00:21He's dead, he's dead, there's blood everywhere.
00:24Who could do something like that?
00:26This woman came up to me and said,
00:28I know who did it.
00:31So now we had another dead body on our hands.
00:35The things that came to light, I was just as shocked as everybody else.
00:40What the f*** has happened?
00:42You guys trying to pull the f*** around me?
00:43Did you ever think of getting even with someone?
00:47Scared to speak.
00:48I am trying to get to the truth.
00:52Did you kill Byron Griffin?
00:58When you move to a small town, there's things that you learn really fast.
01:14Anything that you might want hidden doesn't stay hidden.
01:331994 is when Charles and I moved to Colorado from Salt Lake City.
01:44We wanted to be in the funeral business.
01:50Charles and Tony were brothers.
01:57They shared a mother.
01:59And they were great film directors.
02:01Just willing to help anybody with anything.
02:04I had a cat.
02:07He was dying.
02:08It was terrible.
02:08So they came and they got him for me.
02:11And they took him and they took care of him for me.
02:13And they cremated him for me.
02:16They're wonderful guys.
02:20If you talk to any mortician, death does not weigh heavy on their hearts.
02:27They're morticians, man.
02:29They deal with death all the time.
02:31And they have the means to deal with death.
02:33Marticians, that's kind of an unusual profession.
02:41Marticians make a lot of money.
02:44Especially on coffins and caskets.
02:46It's very lucrative.
02:48Very lucrative.
02:50A lot of people see the money that you can make and that's their driving force.
02:55I wasn't like that.
02:57Becoming a funeral director is almost more of a calling.
03:02A lot of it isn't pleasant.
03:04But with funeral homes in small towns, you're pretty much like family.
03:10For us, it was more than just a job.
03:16Byron Griffey was the same way.
03:20Byron was a funeral director, too.
03:22He was a really good funeral director.
03:24He knew what he was doing.
03:26He'd been doing it for a long time.
03:29He was a very generous person.
03:31He helped us with some equipment when we first got started.
03:36And after that, we just became good friends.
03:43On October 12th, Charles and I went to Fowler to meet Byron for lunch.
03:51It's usually about an hour's drive from Florence to Fowler.
03:59We were meeting Byron at his farm.
04:04When we pulled up to the gate, it was locked.
04:10Charles tried calling him and didn't get an answer.
04:13That was a little strange.
04:20We finally just decided to leave.
04:249-1-1-1-2, emergency.
04:37I think my mother and mom's dead.
04:39I think he fell.
04:41Okay.
04:42Is he bleeding anywhere?
04:44Yeah, all over.
04:46He's dead.
04:46He's dead.
04:47He's cold.
04:48There's blood everywhere.
04:49He's...
04:49He's right.
04:52My dad took care of everybody.
05:07When I moved back home with three kids,
05:11he bought a house for us, which had some land.
05:15And he said it would be fun for the kids to grow up on a farm.
05:19And then, at that point, I met Gina, my wife.
05:27My dad was my biggest support system.
05:31When I told my dad I was gay,
05:34he said, well, you know, you're not alone.
05:38There's a lot of people that are.
05:40So, when Lynette and I decided to get married,
05:45Byron was extremely supportive.
05:49He took my kids, all of my kids,
05:53just like they were his own grandkids.
05:58Whether I was his favorite or not,
06:00he was my favorite.
06:01He was my favorite person in the whole world.
06:11The morning of Byron's death,
06:13which was a day before his birthday,
06:15he was planning to meet Charles and Anthony
06:18out at the farm and go to lunch.
06:21We were sitting down for dinner,
06:30and Byron never showed up.
06:32He wasn't answering his phone.
06:34My dad always answered the phone.
06:37Always.
06:39So, I called Charles.
06:42I said, is my dad still with you?
06:45Charles told her we never even saw him.
06:48He never showed up.
06:51We started to get worried about him.
06:54So, we drove out to the farm.
06:58Gina said, I'll check the house.
07:01And I was yelling for him, you know.
07:04He didn't answer.
07:06And I heard Gina say,
07:09I found him.
07:13And I said, is he okay?
07:17She said, no.
07:18We received a call of a male that was down.
07:29The address I knew as Byron Griffey's farm.
07:33When I got on scene,
07:35EMS was there.
07:37We went in.
07:38We found Byron Griffey
07:40laid out on the floor
07:41in the middle of a bedroom that was empty.
07:44He was just off the wall,
07:45probably about two and a half feet.
07:48Crime scene was very clean.
07:50I mean, there was nothing there.
07:52The family had moved out of the farmhouse,
07:54so the farmhouse was empty.
07:57There was no forced entry
07:59or sign of struggle of any kind.
08:02No defensive marks on him.
08:05There was very little blood.
08:07There was no weapon readily available.
08:19The blood splattering on the wall
08:21was not consistent with what I'm used to.
08:23This was very strange.
08:29Byron is laid out
08:31almost like body in a casket.
08:33And then he's laying flat on the floor,
08:38face up.
08:39He was staged.
08:43Byron Griffey was a pillar of the community.
08:46Pretty much everybody knew
08:47who Byron Griffey was.
08:50So at this point in the investigation,
08:53everybody's a suspect.
08:56And then as we began to dig deeper,
08:59we learned some of these people
09:01were hiding some deep, dark secrets.
09:04If one of them killed him,
09:06who was it?
09:31When we found out that Byron was dead,
09:37of course, my first reaction is,
09:40what the hell happened?
09:43I was shocked.
09:45Charles actually got pretty emotional about it.
09:49The thing that was going through my mind
09:51is we were right there.
09:53After Byron died,
09:55Charles and I thought we could help,
09:57so we offered to go in to CBI
09:59the very next day.
10:06Mark.
10:07Anthony.
10:07Nice to meet you, Anthony.
10:08Likewise.
10:09I wanted you to kind of help me
10:11with a timeline
10:12that's going to be helpful to us
10:14with our investigation.
10:16Okay.
10:19Byron Griffey was a really good friend.
10:22He would help people in need.
10:23Kind of the same theory we had.
10:32Charles and Anthony
10:33were very intertwined with the community.
10:35Everybody knew them.
10:36Everybody has a story.
10:38Charles became mayor.
10:39He was president of the Chamber of Commerce.
10:42He even started a church down the street.
10:47Charles was a bishop.
10:49I actually became a deacon.
10:50We were there just about every Sunday for church.
10:54The sermons that Charles would give
10:56were very inclusive,
10:58very, you know, peace and love.
11:02And my son, Eric, worked for them.
11:05So they owned several businesses in town.
11:08The funeral home,
11:09they owned Smashing Good Guitars,
11:11which was the guitar shop that I worked at.
11:14They owned the Main Street Grill.
11:16And they're huge collectors.
11:18They collect everything.
11:19I started collecting guitars, guns,
11:22dogs, cats, birds, horses.
11:26If I saw an animal that needed help,
11:29I took it.
11:30I even had a squirrel.
11:33There were 37 vehicles.
11:37I had a big bowl of keys on the table.
11:39I would just walk by and pick something out
11:41and walk out front and go,
11:43oh, yeah, that's what I'm driving today.
11:44My brother, like, introduced them,
11:47got them super close into our family.
11:49But at first, it was just like
11:50dinner with Charles and Anthony.
11:52Oh, you're going to a concert
11:53with Charles and Anthony.
11:54And then we're spending holidays together.
11:58Charles liked to talk about his kids.
12:00He would tell us how successful they were,
12:02and then he was proud of them.
12:03But then that sadness
12:04because they weren't in his life,
12:06you know, something must have happened
12:09that made them estranged to him.
12:12Charles was the brains
12:14and kind of the mouth, the charismatic one.
12:17He's doing the business deals,
12:19but the person who, like,
12:21actually made the things happen,
12:24that was Tony.
12:25It appears that you and Charles
12:31were at his property
12:33right around the time that he dies.
12:36So that puts you in a position
12:38to help us with the investigation.
12:41When we were able to retrieve Byron's phone,
12:44we could see two calls.
12:47One was about 1243-ish.
12:49The other one was a little after
12:51that were made from Charles' phone
12:53two Byron's that were missed calls.
12:56So you and Byron were good friends.
12:58We were.
12:58Who was closer to Byron?
13:00Me.
13:01Well, we spoke more.
13:02We spoke more.
13:03And what time do you think you got to the farm?
13:07Had to be right about noon sometime.
13:11Had you ever been to the farm before?
13:12Yeah, a couple of times.
13:14Do you recall the last time?
13:17Probably, who?
13:21Four or five months ago.
13:23Could you actually see the farmhouse
13:26from where you were?
13:27Could you tell if the door was open or closed?
13:28A little bit out of between the trees.
13:31It looked closed to me.
13:33If it would have been open,
13:34I would have probably figured he was there.
13:38How long would you say
13:39you stayed in Fowler?
13:41Oh, no more than 15, 20 minutes.
13:46Did you guys find that odd
13:47that you had plans to do this
13:49and now he's not answering the phone?
13:51Yeah, kind of,
13:52but we'd make plans for him to come up a few times
13:56and he just didn't.
13:58Didn't show?
13:59Yeah.
14:01Before we left town,
14:02we drove around Fowler
14:04because I knew that Byron had a little house
14:07that he had moved into downtown,
14:09but I couldn't remember where that was,
14:11so I just kind of drove around looking for it
14:14and then finally just decided to leave.
14:18I'm right now focused on Byron's state of mind.
14:21Would you say that he was capable of taking his own life?
14:26Yeah, I think so.
14:28It was in September.
14:30He asked me if I could bring him a handgun.
14:31And I actually have a gun collection.
14:33Anthony and I collect guitars, cars, and guns.
14:37And I told him no.
14:41So you never gave him a gun?
14:42No, sir.
14:43So you're not a judge?
14:43Anthony didn't give him a gun?
14:44No.
14:45Anthony would not.
14:46Okay, so I'm going to give you my card
14:48and if anything comes to mind,
14:49please call me.
14:50You know what?
14:51I'm just hoping to help.
14:52The autopsy on Byron indicated
15:05that he was shot from the back
15:07and it was just a single back-to-front gunshot wound
15:12to the neck.
15:14There was soot right on the entrance wound,
15:17which means it's basically a contact wound.
15:19And so you couldn't really shoot yourself
15:23the way he was shot
15:24unless somebody was holding a gun
15:26at his neck on the backside.
15:33I was in shock.
15:36I thought, who could do something like that?
15:39I didn't view that people would want to hurt Byron at all.
15:45Definitely it was not a robbery.
15:47There was a watch on Byron.
15:49He had his wallet.
15:51His phone was with it.
15:52But obviously there had to be some kind of motive.
15:57When we talked to his family members,
15:59we began to realize what it was.
16:04Byron was a huge collector.
16:07He collected stamps, coins, old money, antiques.
16:13My dad had a secret room in the back of the garage.
16:18Only a few people knew that the room was there
16:20and he had, I don't even know how many safes in there.
16:25Byron bought a lot of silver and gold coins.
16:30It was probably pretty close to a million dollars.
16:34Prior to Byron being murdered,
16:43there was multiple calls and somebody trying to break in
16:47to take his saves.
16:48They tried to rob him, but they didn't get nothing.
16:54They made it more of a mess than anything.
16:56I have no idea who did it.
17:01But then there was a noose that was hung in the barn.
17:09It was scary.
17:10After the noose was found in the barn,
17:15I just felt like my family wasn't safe out there
17:20at the farm where there wasn't really any neighbors.
17:24So we all just decided to just move back to Fowler.
17:31Byron was very scared.
17:33He was very adamant that somebody was trying to steal his money.
17:40When we found out my dad was shot,
17:45even before anybody said,
17:47do you know anybody who would want to hurt him,
17:49the first person I thought of was Corey Higgs.
17:53When we lived out at the farm,
17:56we called the cops many times on Corey.
18:00I was scared of Corey every day.
18:04It was hard to think that it could have been Corey
18:07because...
18:09Corey is my son.
18:17Right after Byron's death,
18:19Gina and Lynette were very quick to point fingers
18:23that Corey Higgs was the one that had murdered Byron.
18:27Gina is my wife and Corey is her son.
18:40I really have trouble saying that.
18:44I love her other two kids to death.
18:47Saying Corey is my stepson makes me want to barf.
18:50There was a lot of things going on in the Griffey household
18:57before Byron's murder.
18:59When they were at the farm,
19:01they were all living there.
19:03Lynette and Gina and the kids
19:05with Corey and Byron and Gina's mom.
19:09I believed Corey to be very dangerous on multiple levels.
19:15Stories I heard from other people
19:17and his own family, in fact.
19:20Life with Corey was not easy from ever.
19:31He is extremely intelligent,
19:35but also violent and manipulating.
19:39Corey pulled a knife on his siblings.
19:42When he was younger,
19:47he grabbed me by the neck and choked me out.
19:51When he was 16, 17,
19:54Corey went into foster care
19:56and the court said,
19:59least contact with us, the better.
20:01But for some reason,
20:03the foster system here decided
20:05that it was good for him to spend time with my dad.
20:08So Corey always seemed like he needed a father figure
20:15until Corey met Byron.
20:20Corey told my dad he wanted to be a funeral director.
20:24My dad always wanted somebody to take over his business.
20:28So Corey was this ray of hope for him.
20:33They were really inseparable.
20:35Byron would take him on funeral calls.
20:38So when they would do funeral business,
20:41Corey was dressed just like Byron.
20:45Things started going south between Corey and Byron.
20:48When Corey attacked me,
20:52he was in trouble for something.
20:54Got up, went running for a gun,
20:57which I stepped in front of him and stopped him.
21:00He turned violent, broke my shoulder.
21:03After that, Byron was very hard on him.
21:08I think Corey felt that Byron looked at him different,
21:11which he did.
21:13When Corey aged out of foster care,
21:16he moved right across the street from our farm.
21:19So Corey could have known
21:21that Byron was at the farm that day.
21:23I think Corey's motivation for Byron's murder would just be
21:29that that was just another way to hurt us.
21:31Okay, Corey, do you have any idea why you're here today?
21:40I think I may have an idea, yeah.
21:43I heard that Byron Griffey died.
21:45Okay.
21:46I had known Corey from previous incidents
21:49where I'd been to the farm,
21:51and so I interviewed Corey.
21:56Where were you yesterday?
21:58I slept most of the day, actually.
22:00I was at my house in Fowler.
22:03Was there anybody else there?
22:05Not during the day.
22:06At about 3.45 or so,
22:11my friend and I went down for her play practice.
22:14So from Friday morning until 3.45,
22:17when you were there by yourself,
22:19did you talk to anybody on your cell phone?
22:22I talked on the phone.
22:24I texted, but there was nobody really there.
22:27With you to say...
22:27There was nobody with me, like, physically.
22:29When I have my location settings on on my cell phone,
22:32it doesn't really give an address,
22:33and that's where I'm kind of running into trouble here.
22:37At the time of the murder,
22:41Corey told me that he was watching TV at home.
22:44At that time, Corey was living
22:48about a mile and a half down the road.
22:51He could have walked to the farm
22:53and murdered Byron and walked back.
22:57You know, with you not being able to tell me
23:00that I was with this person from this time to this time,
23:04there's a window there, okay?
23:06CBI is involved.
23:08They're probably going to want to talk to you.
23:09Would you be willing to submit to a polygraph test?
23:11Yeah, yeah, I definitely would, yeah.
23:14Alrighty, end of the interview.
23:17Corey was sad.
23:20I think Corey truly loved Byron.
23:25Carol Coates, she's a good cop,
23:28but he's a master manipulator
23:30and controls every situation.
23:34He played her just like he does everybody else.
23:36I feel guilty being his mom
23:39and feeling the way that I feel.
23:43But I know he did it
23:47or had something to do with it.
23:50I 100% believe that.
24:00There were a lot of people at Byron's funeral,
24:04pretty much the whole town.
24:06It was beautiful.
24:09We asked Charles to do the eulogy.
24:13He got up there and told how he met my dad
24:16and what a great guy he was
24:19to help him out when they were trying to get started.
24:22Charles and Anthony did a good job.
24:26Handling a service for another funeral director
24:29is the ultimate way of learning you did your job right.
24:33If another funeral director or their family
24:36would trust you to do it,
24:37that's a good sign in my opinion.
24:41CBI told us sometimes the killer shows up at the funeral,
24:46so keep your eyes and ears open
24:48as to what might be going on.
24:50After the funeral, we were all eating and socializing,
24:56and this woman came up to me and said,
25:00you know, Tommy did it.
25:02Tommy came home the other night and he was covered in blood.
25:11Tommy did it.
25:12So Tommy Tomlin was Harry Tomlin's brother.
25:18They are complete polar opposites.
25:22I would trust Harry with my life.
25:25Tommy Tomlin is scary.
25:27My brother, Tommy Tomlin, did have a drug problem.
25:32Meth, heroin, whatever drug was out there.
25:36Tommy was violent.
25:37He was capable of doing anything.
25:40Tommy had been doing odd jobs for Byron,
25:44so Tommy was obviously on the suspect list.
25:49We were able to call Tommy in.
25:53Colorado Bureau of Investigation did most of the interview.
25:55Thomas, what's your last name?
25:58Tomlin, Keelum, Elmine.
26:00Having these rights in mind, do we still talk to you now?
26:15Byron was like family to me.
26:18Byron Griffey took care of a lot of funerals for my family.
26:22He was a good man.
26:27The day that Byron was murdered, I was the last person to see him alive.
26:32I met Byron at noon to get paid for the work I'd done for him.
26:36When I heard the news, there was a lot of stuff going through my life.
26:41And then stories are going around of who did it.
26:44One was my baby brother, Tommy Tomlin.
26:50Tommy Tomlin never had a steady job.
26:54So when my dad needed help doing anything at the farm, he just got Tommy.
27:01Tommy was around when he needed money, which was all the time.
27:05When you do drugs, you do things that you really shouldn't be doing.
27:13He went to a party and supposedly had blood all over him and told everybody to the genome
27:18Byron Griffey got murdered.
27:19The rumors of Tommy Tomlin showing up to a party and being covered in blood were false.
27:28We had heard that the day after Byron's murder, Tommy was flashing around $100 bills that he normally didn't have.
27:36So we were questioning where Tommy had gotten this money.
27:40And so we did set Tommy up for a calligraph.
27:43So let me again introduce myself.
27:52I'm Jody.
27:53Sure.
27:53So, and it's Thomas.
27:54It's nice to meet you.
27:55Thank you very much.
27:59I'm going to talk to you about the death of Byron Griffey.
28:02Okay.
28:04Just tell me in your own words, why is it that you're being lost out as a suspect?
28:09Because I had all the money that I found in somebody else's house.
28:12If they think it's Byron's money, how good a friendship did you have with Byron?
28:19That one.
28:19Byron, once more.
28:23When did you last see him?
28:257.30, that one.
28:27So you leave this house by 11, 11.30, the next hour, hour and a half, that you're with one house.
28:32I guess.
28:32Okay.
28:34Hold on.
28:34Back up.
28:35What did you say?
28:36You leave Byron's by 11, 11.30?
28:39Yeah.
28:39You're over that one.
28:40You get home around 12 or 12.30.
28:42Okay.
28:46When you answer the questions, I answer truthfully with the stuff that goes wrong.
28:51Did you participate in any way in shooting Byron?
29:00This test is now complete.
29:01Mr. Tomlin, unfortunately, it's pretty evident to me that there's something you are telling
29:14me about life.
29:15I'm not trying to put a murder on you anymore.
29:28I am trying to get to the truth.
29:30That is all I want.
29:31You are f***ing in my mind because I didn't shoot Byron.
29:36You're going to f*** you?
29:37No, I'm not.
29:38Shut up.
29:39You already told me this.
29:39I am already, please.
29:41Look.
29:41Look, you look.
29:43I'm trying to make you understand I didn't shoot Byron.
29:46And I'm not going to look down for somebody else's bullshit.
29:47You're not trying to get me to confess to something I didn't do.
29:50I'm not trying to get you to confess anything other than the truth.
29:52I am here to get the truth, whatever that is.
29:55You can cut my f***ing junk off if I f***ing lied to you.
29:59Leave me the f*** alone.
30:00Please.
30:01Please.
30:06At this point in the investigation, we did pull DNA from everybody involved.
30:13But the crime scene was very clean.
30:17Whomever killed Byron was very meticulous on making sure that there wasn't much left behind.
30:23So the results came in that there was no DNA matches for anybody.
30:31We didn't have a murder weapon.
30:33We didn't have any real DNA and it could tell us who was there with Byron.
30:39We were back at square one.
30:42So without physical evidence, you start looking at circumstantial.
30:47We start looking at timelines.
30:48The last person that saw Byron Griffey alive was Harry Tomlin.
30:56They met at the bank in downtown Fowler and that was about 1210.
31:04Byron handed me my check and he goes, I'm going to go to lunch.
31:08He typically told me he was going to meet up with Anthony and his brother.
31:12We believe that Byron probably arrived back at the farm approximately 1215 to meet with Charles and Anthony.
31:21Byron's phone showed two missed calls from Charles' cell phone number.
31:28Since Byron had his cell phone on him, Byron probably didn't answer the call at 1243 because he was probably dead.
31:36The body wasn't discovered until approximately 8 p.m. by Gina and Lynette.
31:47So from the time that Byron was last seen in Fowler and the first call being missed at 1243,
31:55that's how long it would have taken to murder him.
32:00Tommy said that he was at an abandoned house with a friend during the time Byron was murdered.
32:07Corey Higgs, he was home alone, but he was living down the road from the farm.
32:15Everybody's a suspect until you can rule them out, but trying to definitively rule them out was very, very hard.
32:24It was something that we just continued to pursue.
32:27I think many people in town started to wonder, what happened to all of Byron's gold?
32:35Where did it all go?
32:37Now that's the million-dollar question.
32:39So after my dad's murder, Gina and I were trying to find my dad's money.
32:53A year before my dad was murdered, he was really worried that whoever had broke in before was going to come back and take all of his coins.
33:03Or somehow Corey knew it was there, and so Corey was going to take it.
33:09And there was no way that he could take that to a safety deposit box or something like that.
33:14And so my dad called Charles and Anthony.
33:17Byron asked if we could watch some coins for him.
33:26I had a gun room, as what everybody called it, in the basement of my house.
33:34My dad wanted to make sure that his money was in a secure place.
33:40They talked about a secret room in their house to where nobody would ever see it.
33:45And so Charles and Anthony agreed.
33:50They had a call at like 10 o'clock at night.
33:53Charles and Tony, they were like, hey, come over and give us a hand.
33:56It was just boxes on boxes of quarters, $500 boxes of quarters from each state.
34:03I mean, I'm talking a whole truck, but I was like, why is this all in coins?
34:08Like, this is ridiculous.
34:10Charles explained to me, well, if you put all your money into quarters, then it's technically a coin collection, so it can't be taxed.
34:19Byron did not keep a full record of what he sent to Charles and Anthony.
34:23He called them several times after they took the coins and said, hey, can I come up?
34:30I need to document, you know, what I gave you.
34:34Charles and Anthony were always busy.
34:37They always had a funeral or something.
34:41It begins to paint the picture that Charles and Anthony might be hiding something.
34:48How long would you say you stayed in Fowler?
34:50Oh, no more than 15, 20 minutes.
34:56Charles and Anthony drove an hour to take Byron for a birthday lunch.
35:01The fact that they didn't even walk up to the house, it was a little strange.
35:08Charles and Anthony said, this is where we're going to meet.
35:11It's odd to me that that's where they met, because we didn't live at the farm anymore.
35:17The far as you made it was the gate?
35:19Yes.
35:20Now, you know there was another way to get on his property that didn't involve using the gate?
35:24No, I didn't know that.
35:25Charles and Anthony had been out to the farm at least three times.
35:31The only entrance ever accessible was the back entrance.
35:38That's the only entrance they used when they came to get the coins.
35:42That's the only entrance they used to leave.
35:45One of the tools that my agency uses is a polygraph.
35:53Sure.
35:54If at some point we got to that, would that be something you'd be willing to do with?
35:58Well, a definite reason as to why.
36:00I told him no, because of polygraph.
36:05It doesn't prove or disprove anything.
36:08And then he asked, would you give a DNA sample?
36:11I said, absolutely.
36:12That's not subjective.
36:14That's actual.
36:16So we did give DNA samples.
36:19And soon it became pretty clear that maybe I was considered a suspect.
36:30CBI had reached out to me a couple of times, asking, what did I know about Charles and Tony?
36:41I was shocked.
36:43I couldn't imagine that either one of those brothers would do anything to Byron.
36:50My family, they were always like, you know, we had nothing to do with the murder.
36:54Yeah, I don't know.
36:55Honestly, I'm kind of surprised we didn't talk about it more.
36:58We didn't know any of these brothers for years.
37:02We were really close to Charles and Anthony.
37:05And Anthony was so kind.
37:08And he really inspired me to be kinder and more patient, not so jaded, because my job was a little dark.
37:18Laura was a probation officer.
37:21I was talking with her about how I can deal with being a suspect.
37:28We started talking more.
37:30I gave her my phone number, which I'd never done before, so we could text.
37:35And we just began texting.
37:37And at some point, I was starting to have feelings for her.
37:42But that's how it started.
37:43I was away at college, and I could tell that something was up with my mom.
37:58She wasn't acting like herself anymore.
38:00The first week of the semester, I had missed a call from my mom's good friend, Mandy.
38:08I remember checking the voicemail.
38:10I knew something horrible had happened.
38:13I'm just getting information really slowly.
38:34And I'm trying to talk to my mom, and she won't pick up my calls.
38:38I got a surprise phone call from one of my mom's friends.
38:52And my mom's friend, she's like, Eric, your mom is hysterical.
38:58She's just like screaming and crying.
39:00He's going to kill himself.
39:01Like, you know, I never meant for this to happen.
39:03And I'm like, what are you talking about?
39:06Going down the street looking for my mother.
39:10She had got, like, even more hysterical, crazy.
39:13To where, like, they're trying to get her into an ambulance.
39:17They didn't take her to the hospital.
39:19They took her to the jail.
39:23To question her.
39:30I understand that you know it.
39:33My oldest son, um, works for him and his brother.
39:41Okay.
39:43We had been talking a lot more and texted.
39:48On December 26th, he told me that he loved me and he'd been in love with me for years.
39:56I suggest that I've been in love with him for the last three years as well.
40:00And so we immediately started to make plans for the future to get there.
40:07Who's Anthony's mom?
40:09Charles Greenwood.
40:10Well, fuck.
40:12I thought that was his brother.
40:14Charles and Tony are not brothers.
40:30They're together.
40:32They're lovers.
40:33Yeah, they're not brothers, Cliff.
40:41No.
40:43How long did you go on about Charles and Anthony's relationship?
40:48Two o'clock this afternoon.
40:50Oh.
40:53Oh.
41:01Oh.
41:08Oh.
41:15Oh.
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