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00:00Every day before I brush my teeth, I pick my pistol up.
00:05That pistol was mandatory.
00:08Especially the life I was living, it was mandatory.
00:11The killer was a hardened drug dealer and lifelong gang member.
00:15You also called yourself Ag Town's Grim Reaper.
00:19Yeah.
00:21And what did you mean by that?
00:24I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory too.
00:27The victim was a struggling young man with a drug addiction who ran afoul of his dealer.
00:33That's a nice-ass word.
00:35The punishment began with torture.
00:37I started tattooing his bae.
00:39And blacking it out.
00:40Now I'm mad.
00:41And ended with cold-blooded murder.
00:44The switch is flipped.
00:45Yeah, so now there's no way to unflip it.
00:47From the vicious world of street gangs and drugs, a killer talks for the first time.
00:53There's a code to that life, right?
00:56How you pay respect, command respect.
00:59Mm-hmm.
01:00If they see any type of weakness in you, you're not going to last long.
01:05It's over with.
01:06And opens a new window into a brutal crime that took a young man's life.
01:10Is that the gun you used to kill us?
01:13So for about a few hundred dollars and some disrespect, you're willing to torture, torment him.
01:25For future references, keep it 100.
01:28This s**t won't happen to you.
01:30Ultimately, murder a man for acting like a junkie when you the one turned him into a junkie.
01:37How do you account for that?
01:39How do you account for that?
01:40How do you account for that?
01:42How do you account for that?
01:44How do you account for that?
01:45Probably.
01:45Famous music become more Awk Ellis.
01:46I find it!
03:19Benjamin Delgadillo is serving a 50-year sentence for the torture, abduction, and murder of 22-year-old Eunice Alhassan Yanni in February 2021.
03:30First time talking about the case publicly?
03:33Yeah, I ain't talked about my case, nothing.
03:35Right, because there was no trial.
03:37No trial, no nothing.
03:39Delgadillo pleaded guilty to murder, but left the victim's family and the public with many unanswered questions.
03:47Today, he's agreed to talk for the first time about the crime and the gang code he says was behind it.
03:53We wanted to talk to you to try and understand the mindset and motivations behind your actions in this case.
04:03Does that make sense?
04:03Yeah.
04:04Why did you want to talk to us?
04:06I mean, it's an opportunity for both sides, really.
04:11Y'all can understand what really happened that day, and I could have a chance to voice and tell y'all the truth.
04:19You want to say your piece?
04:21I mean, yeah, yeah.
04:22Mm-hmm, okay.
04:23Delgadillo is deemed so dangerous by prison authorities that he's not only seated behind glass, but inside a metal cage as an extra precaution.
04:32You're in here doing 50 years for your part in this crime, right?
04:39Far more than anyone else implicated in the case, right?
04:43Do you feel like you took the fall for this murder?
04:46Mm-hmm, I don't really necessarily say I took the fall, but I guess I'm just the one who got stuck with it.
04:54Interesting, okay.
04:55We're going to get into the case in a moment, but I want to take a moment to learn a little more about your background, okay?
05:01Okay.
05:02You're from the south side of Arlington.
05:04Okay.
05:04Right?
05:05Yeah.
05:05Grew up born and raised there.
05:06Mm-hmm.
05:07What was that neighborhood like?
05:08You know, I really grew up with a little single mama struggling.
05:12Mm-hmm.
05:12So by the time I grew up and I was around like 11, 12, I went out there and tried to help my mama.
05:20On the streets?
05:21Yeah.
05:22So I started going out, selling drugs, robbing people.
05:26How old were you?
05:2612, 11.
05:2811 years old?
05:29Yeah.
05:29And you're out there in the streets robbing people?
05:31I mean, that's the only thing I knew.
05:32How did you know it?
05:33Who turned you on to that life?
05:35You know, the people I grew up around, you know, that was the culture, that was the lifestyle.
05:41Gangs, drugs, stuff like that.
05:43So I became a gang member about the age of 12.
05:47Which gang?
05:47I'm Five Deuce.
05:50Five Deuce is an affiliate of the Crips gang that originated in Los Angeles and now has a large membership in Texas.
05:58Delgadillo says he's been a member for most of his life.
06:00Most of us know very little about the life of a street drug dealer or gang member.
06:09What's it like to be in that kind of life?
06:12Like, when you first start off, I mean, yeah, it's exciting.
06:15But, you know, being in the streets, selling dope, shooting, getting shot at, that's scary, you know?
06:22Like, I mean, you think it's fun until bullets flying past by, you see your partners dropping, getting shot.
06:28And there's a code to that life, right?
06:33A kind of street code about how you act, how you pay respect, command respect.
06:38Mm-hmm.
06:38Respect gonna get you a long way.
06:41You respect people, they're gonna respect you.
06:43How important is it to project an image of strength in that game?
06:47Oh, it's very important.
06:48And if they see any pushover, any type of weakness in you, you're not gonna last long, it's over with.
06:56On social media, Delgadillo openly promoted his business and his brutality.
07:01It was his brand.
07:02You advertised yourself as BDA.
07:07What does that mean, BDA?
07:08BDA, all right.
07:09So, BDA, that's a neighborhood clique.
07:12That's my neighborhood clique.
07:14That's, you know, we in the world of BDA 241.
07:17I got it, you know, tatted all on me.
07:19It stands for about that action.
07:21Mm-hmm.
07:21So, I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory.
07:25Emphasis on the action.
07:26Yeah, we about that action.
07:27You also called yourself Ag-Town's Grim Reaper.
07:33Yeah.
07:35And what did you mean by that?
07:37I mean, that's pretty self-explanatory, too.
07:41Were you, in fact, as ruthless as that suggests?
07:45Uh, I mean, I already signed for my time, so, I mean, I myself wouldn't speak on myself, like, my actions.
07:54I would have somebody else speak on me.
07:57That sounds like a yes.
07:58I guess, yeah.
08:00Everyone uses nicknames, right, to avoid government names, right?
08:05What were yours?
08:06My first one, Puppet.
08:08I had got that, like, 10 years old.
08:12I had got that name, though, because, hey, go tell him what to do.
08:16Go tell him what to do.
08:16He's going to do it.
08:17As soon as you tell him, he's going to go do it.
08:19So, they had me, like, little strings.
08:21Oh, Puppet on a string?
08:21Yeah.
08:22You were also known to always carry a gun.
08:26Yeah.
08:27Right?
08:27Yeah.
08:27Did that start at 11 years old?
08:29I mean, yeah.
08:31Once they put that first pistol in my hand, you know what I'm saying, every day before I brush my teeth, pick my pistol up.
08:37Then I'm going to go take care of what I, that pistol is mandatory.
08:39Especially the life I was living, it was mandatory.
08:43Required equipment.
08:44Mm-hmm.
08:44At 11 years old.
08:46And were you, even at that age, ready to use it if you had to?
08:51I told myself I was.
08:53I told everybody else I was.
08:55Nobody really knows until it's that time.
08:59Delgadillo became a full-time gun-slinging drug dealer.
09:03Meth, coke, heroin, etc.
09:05But his own drug of choice was something known as bars.
09:10I was so hooked on them bars.
09:12I was a bar baby for real.
09:13Like, I got introduced to them like 13, 14, young.
09:19As I understand it, it's basically two large doses of Xanax kind of melded together.
09:25It looks like a bar.
09:26Yeah.
09:27Right?
09:27Everything just feels amazing.
09:32Everything feels good, slow, everything just...
09:35Slow down the game?
09:36Mm-hmm.
09:38Delgadillo was high on Xanax in early 2021,
09:42when he says he nodded off in the backseat of a car
09:45after selling meth to Yunus Alhassaniani.
09:48When he woke up, his customer was gone,
09:51and so was his supply of drugs.
09:54That's when the trouble began.
09:55How long had you known Yunus?
10:00Probably not even six months, really.
10:02Did you know he was struggling to get clean?
10:05Yeah, I did. I did.
10:09Yunus was born and raised in Texas,
10:11but his parents were refugees from Kurdistan
10:14and part of an ethnic group persecuted in their homeland in northern Iraq.
10:19His family had recently sent him to Kurdistan
10:22in the hopes of kicking the drug habit he picked up in Texas.
10:26But now he was back in Arlington,
10:28and so was the habit.
10:31Looking back on my life now,
10:33like, a lot of the people that I did a lot of deals with,
10:37I really shouldn't have been, like, dealing with them
10:40because I seen I was really hurting them more than I was helping them.
10:44You could see that?
10:45Yeah.
10:45Or you can see that now, you mean?
10:47I knew it was wrong when I was doing it.
10:49You did.
10:50I knew everything I knew was wrong.
10:51So you knew the difference between right and wrong.
10:53Yeah, it's just...
10:55It's just...
10:56I've been so caught up into this so long,
10:58it's just...
10:59It's not about what's right and what's wrong anymore.
11:02It's about me taking care of myself.
11:04Delgadillo estimates Eunice stole
11:07about $1,000 worth of drugs from him.
11:10There was meth, uh, what I had, uh,
11:13some exos, heroin, some weed,
11:17like, a whole bunch of...
11:17Just a whole bunch of little, little, little amounts of everything.
11:21But he says it wasn't really about the product or the cash.
11:25See, so the whole situation,
11:27like, it wasn't really behind the money.
11:29It was behind him doing what he did.
11:32Like, I felt you disrespected me, you played me,
11:34like, all right?
11:35That's really where it was.
11:36And the disrespect is a serious offense in that life.
11:40Yeah.
11:40Not only did he stick you with the debt,
11:42but he makes you look bad.
11:43Yeah, because if I have this image
11:46that everybody knows, oh, don't play with him, eh.
11:48Right.
11:49Okay, so now he's not this big, bad person he was.
11:52He's not untouchable how he said he was.
11:53He's not this.
11:54Let's go try him.
11:55Because you can't show weakness.
11:57Mm-hmm.
11:57Right?
11:58And so you can't let it stand.
12:00Mm-hmm.
12:04Tap-out session.
12:06So if you got some money,
12:08you want to do the same?
12:09Come through.
12:10Cool.
12:10As many tattoos as you want.
12:12Tap-out for $500.
12:15All you can take.
12:17Two weeks after that drug theft,
12:19Delgadillo found himself at, of all things,
12:21an all-night tattoo party
12:23in the home of a woman Eunice was dating,
12:26Erica Perez.
12:27It could be your whole motherf***er body.
12:29Who's ready?
12:31Unfortunately for Eunice,
12:32he showed up too.
12:35I ain't know he even knew them,
12:36but, but yeah, like I'm getting my tattoos done
12:38and then, uh,
12:40knock on the door.
12:42They open the door, it's Eunice.
12:44I ain't know this whole time
12:47Eunice and Erica is, uh...
12:49A couple.
12:49Yeah.
12:50Yeah, so I ain't know that.
12:52So I'm like, oh, okay, okay.
12:54But I'm not tripping on it, you know?
12:55Me, I'm not tripping.
12:58That's cool.
12:59Stage is set now.
13:00Yeah.
13:00Right?
13:02Walk me through what happened that night.
13:05This is the turning point.
13:07I'm getting tattooed.
13:08I even give them some drugs to go do.
13:10Here, boom, go do that.
13:12You want, you want to get high?
13:12Go get high.
13:13Boom.
13:14I see too much movement in my peripheral.
13:17Too much movement.
13:18I got a backpack with some dope over there.
13:21That's when I see it again.
13:23The movement.
13:24So I look, but this time when I look,
13:28he grabbed my bag.
13:29Eunice?
13:30Yeah.
13:30He grabbed my bag,
13:31tried to take off running with it.
13:33So this is a second offense.
13:35Yeah.
13:35So if I felt disrespected the first time,
13:38felt played the first time,
13:39this time you're doing it in front of me.
13:41I had already hopped up,
13:42pushed the tattoo artist off me and ran.
13:45I ran behind him.
13:45I had my gun.
13:47So by the time I run up behind him,
13:48he's trying to unlock the post,
13:50I put my gun on.
13:51Hey.
13:51You must have been pissed off at that point.
13:53I was mad.
13:54Hell yeah, I was mad.
13:55That's really what this whole situation was.
13:58Delgadillo says his reputation
13:59as a drug-dealing gangster
14:01had been twice tested by Eunice
14:03and was then at stake.
14:05According to the code,
14:06you have to act.
14:07Yeah.
14:08So he crosses a line.
14:10You can't let it stand.
14:12Right?
14:12Yeah.
14:12You can't be the dealer
14:14who got punked
14:15by some small-time junkie.
14:18Mm-mm.
14:19Right?
14:20So by the street code,
14:22right,
14:23what would be the punishment
14:25for an addict
14:27who steals repeatedly
14:29from his dealer?
14:32That's the question.
14:33Yeah.
14:34What's the answer?
14:35The answer begins with torture
14:39and ends in murder.
14:41So me,
14:44I want to embarrass you.
14:45I want to make sure
14:48that you remember me
14:48for the rest of your life.
14:49Hmm.
14:50Scar him for life.
14:52Yeah.
14:53Who wants to get tattooed
15:07by one of Arlington's
15:09best tattoo artists?
15:11On the night of February 1st, 2021,
15:14Erika Perez hosted a gathering.
15:16It was a tattoo party
15:18where people pay a flat fee
15:20to be inked up all night
15:21by a local artist.
15:23He had did the tattoos
15:24on the back of my head.
15:25So I had already
15:26had got some work from him.
15:28So I was like,
15:29okay,
15:29you're pretty good.
15:31You're decent.
15:32Which ones did he do?
15:33Can you show me?
15:33Yeah.
15:34He did the whole back of my head.
15:38Oh, he did all of that?
15:39Yeah.
15:40Mm-hmm.
15:41So he did the whole back of my head.
15:43And then,
15:44so I mean,
15:44I knew he was pretty decent.
15:46Delgadillo might have gone
15:47for the tattoos,
15:48but when one of his customers
15:50showed up too,
15:51the night took a dark turn.
15:53It was Erika Perez's boyfriend,
15:55Eunice Alhassiniani,
15:56who had robbed Delgadillo
15:58of his drug supply.
15:59And now the code of the streets
16:01required that Delgadillo retaliate.
16:04Some people would have just killed him.
16:07Yeah.
16:07Right there and then?
16:08Yeah.
16:09By the street code,
16:10that would be acceptable?
16:12Yeah.
16:13Advisable?
16:14Yeah.
16:15What escalated the whole situation
16:17was Erika.
16:21Don't laugh.
16:22I'm not giving you props.
16:23I'm just saying...
16:23Delgadillo says Perez,
16:25who had also fallen out
16:26with Eunice that night,
16:28then threw fuel on the fire,
16:30goading Delgadillo
16:31to punish him for stealing.
16:34They were having an argument.
16:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:36Right?
16:37They were arguing.
16:38And at some point,
16:40she kind of throws him
16:42under the bus.
16:44Um, yeah.
16:45And is Erika,
16:47she's watching,
16:48enjoying the show?
16:49She's the one who recorded it.
16:50Right.
16:51I ain't record none of that.
16:53We hear her on the recording, right?
16:56No.
16:58Hey, my bad.
16:58I'm not a professional tattooer.
17:00Blow a finger, Tor.
17:03I grabbed a tattoo gun he had.
17:05I had my gun in one hand,
17:06tattoo in the other hand.
17:07You had your pistol in one hand
17:09and the tattoo gun
17:09in the other hand.
17:10Mm-hmm.
17:10Okay.
17:11So, I had told him,
17:13lay down.
17:13He didn't want to lay down.
17:15Uh, made him lay down.
17:17Okay.
17:18Eager to humiliate Eunice,
17:20Delgadillo took offense
17:21at the hometown tattoo
17:23on the young man's back
17:24and began raking the tattoo gun
17:26over his victim's skin.
17:29You know, I'm from the South Side.
17:31Uh, he was from the South Side, too.
17:34He had a big old South Side
17:36tattoo on his back.
17:37He had on a red polo shirt.
17:39I just grabbed it,
17:40ripped it.
17:41You ripped it off,
17:42revealing this
17:43South Side tattoo on his back.
17:45I'm really from the South Side.
17:46Yeah, so,
17:47that's when, uh,
17:49I started,
17:49I started tattooing his back,
17:51the whole, uh,
17:52South Side.
17:53Say, what y'all, homeboy?
17:54What you got right there?
17:55You know what I'm saying?
17:56Custom tattoo right here.
17:57That's custom?
17:58I don't know what that is.
18:00Hold on, let me see that hair
18:01right there real quick.
18:02That hair pretty clean, though.
18:04Hell yeah.
18:06I blacked out the whole South Side,
18:07on his whole,
18:08across his whole back.
18:09The whole back.
18:10Marked it off.
18:12That's a nice-ass word.
18:16I'm a real-ass
18:17in the South, cuz.
18:19You better ask about me.
18:21I'm VDA.
18:23While I'm marking it off,
18:25uh,
18:25he's complaining,
18:26uh,
18:27begging me to stop,
18:28telling me to stop.
18:29It's painful, right?
18:29Yeah.
18:30He's telling me it's painful.
18:31Me in my state of mind,
18:33I'm not
18:33worried about how you feel.
18:36I'm worried about
18:36how you made me feel.
18:37Right.
18:38So you made me feel bad,
18:39so guess what I'm gonna do?
18:40It's supposed to be painful.
18:41He tell me it hurts,
18:42so I pick it up,
18:43stab it back down,
18:44stab it back down,
18:45jerk it around,
18:46making it as painful
18:47as I can for him.
18:48Do it a little soft.
18:50You didn't say do it soft.
18:51What the hell?
18:51Do it soft?
18:52F***ing hurt.
18:53Yeah?
18:54Ow.
18:56Ow.
18:56Ain't my bad.
18:58I'm not a professional tattooer.
19:00Punishment fit the crime?
19:02Uh,
19:02at the time being.
19:03You advise him to
19:04keep it 100
19:05so this don't happen to you
19:07for future references.
19:09Hey, look,
19:10for future references,
19:12keep it 100.
19:13This s*** don't happen to you.
19:16Right.
19:16You talking to him,
19:18kind of messing with his head
19:19at this point?
19:20Or is this just to
19:22underscore the punishment,
19:24the humiliation?
19:25I mean,
19:26I guess you could say
19:27a little bit of both.
19:29Like,
19:29I'm trying to add
19:31to the punishment
19:31at the same time
19:33letting him know,
19:33like,
19:34you did this to yourself.
19:35This is what happens
19:36when you try to play
19:37with people.
19:37Like,
19:38you don't,
19:39you don't touch fire
19:40and expect not to get burned.
19:42He looks totally defenseless.
19:44Did he resist at all?
19:46No.
19:46No.
19:48He must have been terrified.
19:51My goal is to
19:52embarrass you.
19:53My goal is to
19:54make you suffer.
19:54My goal is
19:55for pain.
19:56But Delgadillo's
19:57torment didn't stop there.
20:00He then made a call
20:00to his supplier,
20:01Justin Salinas,
20:03a drug dealer
20:03rumored to have ties
20:05to Mexican cartels.
20:07So,
20:07it ain't over.
20:08Now it's early morning.
20:10You make a phone call.
20:11Yeah.
20:12To Mr. Salinas,
20:13right?
20:13What's that conversation like?
20:15I mean,
20:16it wasn't too much,
20:17too much to that car.
20:19I just called him,
20:20updated him.
20:20Was he upset?
20:21As upset as you were?
20:22For sure.
20:23Turns out Salinas
20:24had fronted the drugs
20:26Eunice stole from Delgadillo.
20:28So he's making
20:29not just you look bad,
20:30but him.
20:31Mr. Salinas, too.
20:32Yeah.
20:33So,
20:33I had kind of
20:35picked up the phone.
20:36Hey,
20:36you remember you sent him to me?
20:37This is what he did.
20:38He tried it again.
20:39He did this,
20:40did that.
20:40So this is where I'm at.
20:41By choosing to call in Salinas,
20:43Delgadillo was setting
20:44Eunice up
20:45for even more violence.
20:47Why him,
20:48of all people?
20:49Because it seems like
20:50more than likely
20:51it was gonna
20:52be more trouble
20:54if he's involved.
20:56I mean,
20:57I don't know.
20:58If I'm being honest,
21:00it's just,
21:00you know,
21:01it just seemed like
21:02he was in my circle,
21:04so he seemed like
21:06he was one of the people
21:06to go to.
21:08It seems like
21:09you knew
21:09or should have known
21:10that...
21:11What was gonna happen.
21:12...that,
21:12yeah,
21:13if you alert him,
21:14right?
21:15Mm-hmm.
21:16I mean,
21:16you must have known
21:17that if he's coming out,
21:20there's gonna be
21:20hell to pay for Eunice.
21:22Yeah.
21:24Right?
21:25Yeah.
21:26Was there a point
21:26that you all decided
21:28you were gonna take his life
21:31or what he had done?
21:42Do it south?
21:43F***er.
21:44Yeah?
21:45After torturing
21:46Eunice Al-Hasanyani
21:47with a tattoo gun
21:48over a drug debt,
21:50Benjamin Delgadillo
21:51then called in
21:52the big guns.
21:53Three more drug dealers
21:54arrived armed to the teeth.
21:56One of them,
21:58according to the record,
21:59is openly carrying
22:00an AK-47 of some kind.
22:03Yeah.
22:04He walks into
22:04the apartment with it.
22:06Yeah.
22:07So,
22:08now,
22:10you got
22:11four men
22:13armed,
22:15right?
22:16Pissed off,
22:18aggrieved,
22:20and
22:21ready to act.
22:24You guys tell Eunice
22:25he's going for a ride home.
22:29Delgadillo says
22:30Salinas then confronted Eunice,
22:32painting a scene
22:33straight out of a gangster movie.
22:36Yeah.
22:37Before that,
22:38they talked, though.
22:39Like,
22:39they had,
22:40Juju had sat down
22:41and started talking to him.
22:42He just sat down
22:43in front of him,
22:44started talking to him,
22:45telling him why he messed up
22:47and, uh,
22:49why, like,
22:50certain things had to happen.
22:52By way of reprimand.
22:54I mean, like,
22:54at that point,
22:55uh,
22:56we didn't really
22:57just outright say
22:58what was going to happen.
22:59Nobody really just knew
23:00what was going to happen,
23:01but everybody had an idea.
23:03Right.
23:03So, uh...
23:05Everybody had an idea,
23:06including Eunice,
23:07who pleaded for his life.
23:09What was he saying?
23:10Do you remember?
23:11He was just kind of
23:12really just throwing it out there,
23:14like,
23:15hey, man,
23:15just let me make it,
23:17let me make it,
23:17go ahead,
23:18just,
23:18y'all ain't even got to do nothing
23:19to open the door.
23:20Let me,
23:20let me walk out,
23:21just,
23:21I ain't gonna tell nobody nothing,
23:23I ain't,
23:23it's over with.
23:24So,
23:25Salinas tells him,
23:27how did you put it?
23:29Uh,
23:30we came to let you make it.
23:31Make it meaning walk away.
23:33Yeah.
23:33Mm-hmm.
23:35Okay,
23:35now,
23:36if armed drug dealers
23:38tell somebody,
23:41we're gonna take you
23:42for a ride home,
23:44Yeah.
23:44and,
23:45you know,
23:46that person has just
23:48stolen drugs,
23:50Yeah.
23:50it sounds like that means
23:52you're dead.
23:55Yeah.
23:57Is that fair?
23:58Is that right?
23:59Yeah.
23:59by then,
24:02the tattoo party
24:03was over
24:03and Eunice was dragged
24:05from the apartment
24:05by Delgadillo,
24:07Justin Salinas,
24:08also known as Juju,
24:09and two other men.
24:11Erica says,
24:12whatever y'all gonna do,
24:13don't do it here.
24:14You remember that?
24:15Yeah.
24:16Mm-hmm.
24:17And so you walk him
24:18out to the car.
24:20Everybody gets in the car.
24:22Who's calling the shots now?
24:24Really,
24:25when we left that apartment,
24:28wasn't really no talking.
24:30It was more silence.
24:32It was more actions.
24:33It's just
24:33more,
24:35we knew what to do
24:36and what was going on.
24:37The less said,
24:38the better.
24:39Mm-hmm.
24:39What's the vibe
24:40in the car?
24:41You said no music,
24:42no talking.
24:42Yeah,
24:43just silence.
24:45And there's no
24:45clear destination?
24:48Mm-hmm.
24:48Kind of driving around?
24:49Mm-hmm.
24:50Was Eunice
24:51pleading his case at all?
24:54Mm,
24:55not really.
24:55No,
24:56just quiet.
24:57I mean,
24:57at the beginning,
24:58I don't think he understood
24:59what he was getting himself into
25:02when he got into that car
25:03until,
25:05like,
25:0610 minutes
25:06into that car ride.
25:08because I do vaguely remember
25:11him telling us,
25:12hey,
25:13why are y'all going this way?
25:15Y'all know I live this way.
25:16Where are y'all da-da-da?
25:17That was the clue.
25:18Yeah,
25:19and nobody said nothing.
25:20No radio,
25:20no music,
25:21no nobody's talking.
25:22Do you think that he just
25:23accepted his fate
25:24at that point?
25:26I mean,
25:26surrender?
25:27I guess he just realized
25:29there was really nothing
25:29he could do at that point,
25:30yeah.
25:31Finally,
25:31the car stops
25:32on the shoulder
25:33of the highway.
25:34What happens next?
25:35Juju hops out first.
25:41Eunice hops out.
25:42I'm in the backseat with him.
25:45As soon as he hops out,
25:46he tries to walk off.
25:47Tries to walk off.
25:50He gets shot.
25:52He got shot.
25:53I forgot.
25:54I think they said
25:54he got shot in the throat.
25:55In the neck?
25:56Yeah,
25:56something like that.
25:57So,
25:58you heard the gunshot.
26:00Yeah.
26:01Did you see the gunshot?
26:02Yeah.
26:03You did.
26:03I wasn't looking at him.
26:05I was looking more
26:06at the gun.
26:07And I seen just,
26:08boom,
26:09spurting off.
26:10What started with torture
26:11had escalated to murder.
26:14Delgadillo says
26:15it was Salinas
26:16who pulled the trigger,
26:17but murder charges
26:18against Salinas
26:19would later be dropped.
26:22What was your state
26:23of mind at that point?
26:23What were you thinking
26:24at that point?
26:27If I'm being honest,
26:28the only thing
26:28I was thinking about
26:29at that exact moment
26:31was just getting
26:32out of there.
26:33Flee?
26:34Flee the scene?
26:35I wasn't thinking
26:36about nothing else,
26:36if I'm being honest.
26:37Okay.
26:39You weren't feeling
26:40any remorse,
26:42any regret,
26:43any sympathy?
26:44Mm-mm.
26:45If I'm being honest,
26:46no.
26:48Eunice's body
26:49was left in a drainage ditch
26:51on the side of the highway.
26:56Before long,
26:57Delgadillo's name
26:57was on the lead
26:58detective's radar,
26:59and a police interrogation
27:01would blow the investigation
27:03wide open.
27:04They came in
27:05carrying something,
27:05what they had,
27:06what they have in their hands.
27:07They had it,
27:07it's all right.
27:08What you have,
27:10I have business.
27:12You made a lot
27:13of strange decisions
27:14afterwards,
27:15interacting with law enforcement
27:16and the courts.
27:17I mean,
27:18yeah,
27:19yeah,
27:19there's a lot of things
27:20I wish I would have done
27:21differently.
27:22The code of the street
27:23that led to Eunice's murder
27:25would once again
27:26come into play,
27:27only this time
27:28it would be Delgadillo
27:29breaking the rules.
27:31You did it to yourself.
27:32Yeah.
27:33Finally naming
27:34your accomplices
27:35one by one,
27:36right?
27:37Mm-hmm.
27:38What did they do?
27:39Yes.
27:39Who did they?
27:42Just a shot.
27:43Yeah.
27:52So right here's the area
27:53where we found
27:54the blood splatter.
27:55You could see the blood
27:57come onto the guardrail
27:58and there was actually
28:00a large pooling of blood
28:02that had been dried
28:02sitting right here
28:03on the other side
28:03of the guardrail.
28:05Detective Justin Coffey
28:07of the Eunice Police Department
28:08got the call
28:09to investigate
28:10the discovery
28:11of a young man's body
28:12on the side
28:13of a Texas highway.
28:16TxDOT workers
28:16were doing bridge inspections
28:18that day
28:18and they located
28:21a body
28:21in the ditch
28:22off of the service road.
28:25I was just asked
28:26to get there.
28:27The body belonged
28:29to 22-year-old
28:30Eunice Alhasinyani.
28:32A witness then
28:33came forward
28:33and reported
28:34seeing a suspicious
28:35white Dodge Challenger
28:36on the night
28:37of the murder.
28:38One of our witnesses
28:39actually was entering
28:41the freeway
28:42here at this interest
28:43rent.
28:43She was able
28:45to look down
28:45this service road
28:46and see a white Challenger
28:47parked at the barrier.
28:49That's when she saw
28:50the item being thrown
28:53from the vehicle
28:53later determined
28:54to be a body.
28:59We believe
29:00the Challenger
29:01would have been parked
29:01exactly right here
29:02where my truck is parked
29:03and Eunice was shot
29:05here at this location
29:07and probably fell back
29:08across the guardrail.
29:10Leads poured in
29:13from Eunice's family
29:14and eventually
29:15the phone number
29:16for a drug dealer
29:17known as Puppet.
29:18Police traced the phone
29:20to Benjamin Delgadillo
29:21and he was brought in
29:23for questioning.
29:23When I looked
29:35through his social media
29:36he seemed like
29:37a pretty bad
29:38pretty bad man.
29:40He, you know
29:40a lot of photographs
29:41with guns
29:42a lot of talk
29:44about being
29:44Ag Town's
29:46grim reaper.
29:46When I walked
29:53in that interview room
29:54I really thought
29:55that Benjamin
29:55was going to give me
29:56the middle finger.
29:57I figured he was
29:57going to come in there
29:58and say
29:58I'm not going to say
29:59a word.
30:00It's just my surprise
30:01Benjamin had no issues
30:03talking to me at all.
30:04I've never had a job
30:06to be honest with you.
30:07Ever?
30:07Never.
30:08Okay.
30:09Not in their motor yard
30:10with a kid?
30:11Mm-hmm.
30:13How have you been, buddy?
30:14I mean
30:15I used to sell
30:16you know
30:17I used to sell
30:17but
30:18you know what I mean
30:19not a big deal
30:20for weed.
30:20Yeah.
30:21I mean
30:21yeah
30:21weed
30:22Delgadillo
30:23did the one thing
30:24his gang forbids
30:25when confronted
30:26by the cops.
30:27He squealed.
30:29First he confessed
30:30to torturing Eunice
30:31with the tattoo gun.
30:33And so
30:34where did the
30:35Southside beat
30:36come out?
30:37Because he had
30:37Southside
30:38tattooed on.
30:39Yeah.
30:40I'm Southside too
30:41but it just
30:41it was just
30:43I guess
30:44it was in the moment
30:45you know what I'm saying
30:45I'm mad
30:46I don't know
30:47I don't know
30:47what else to do
30:48so I'm getting a tattoo
30:49on like
30:50Can I be honest with you?
30:51When I watched that video
30:53and you taking that tattoo
30:55gun and scratch
30:55this tattoo out
30:56that was chilling.
30:59Yeah.
30:59I saw
31:00a monster right there.
31:02Yeah.
31:02Not who I see
31:03right in front of me
31:04right now.
31:04I saw someone
31:05that was very angry.
31:07I love it.
31:08Very pissed off.
31:09I mean
31:09that's very personal.
31:11You set out
31:13to embarrass him
31:13to torture him
31:15to humiliate him
31:16and I think
31:18you did that
31:18and he was scared.
31:20Yeah.
31:20He didn't even
31:21raise up to you.
31:22He submitted
31:23to everything you said.
31:24Yes sir.
31:25Right?
31:25Is that fair to say?
31:26Yes sir.
31:27Okay.
31:28You with South?
31:29This s*** hurt.
31:30Yeah?
31:30No.
31:32No.
31:33Ain't my bad.
31:34I'm not a person.
31:34Have you watched
31:35that video yourself?
31:36Never seen it.
31:37You've never seen it?
31:38Never seen it.
31:39I guess it was
31:40just my anger.
31:41Kept building up
31:42building up
31:42building up
31:43and then that's
31:43just what led to it.
31:45Were you
31:45more angry
31:47when you finished
31:49the torture
31:50than you were
31:51when you started it?
31:53I would say yeah
31:54because
31:55now that I had
31:56actually had
31:57did what I had did
31:58I'm already mad now.
32:01Now I'm mad.
32:03At first
32:03I was trying
32:04not to get mad
32:05so you know
32:06I'm not mad.
32:07I'm trying not to get mad.
32:08But now that I
32:08actually am mad
32:10and I'm mad
32:11now like
32:13what I'm finna do
32:14now that I'm mad?
32:14The switch is flipped.
32:15Yeah so now
32:16there's no way
32:16to unflip it.
32:17Right.
32:18Right.
32:19Because you
32:19you could have stopped
32:20after the
32:21the torture session.
32:23Yeah.
32:24That act
32:25that torture
32:26started a kind of
32:28momentum of violence
32:29it seems.
32:30Like it builds
32:31and builds.
32:33And then the way
32:33that
32:33that violence
32:35begets violence
32:36and it seemed
32:36to start
32:37when you put him
32:38on the table
32:39and tortured him.
32:41Is that fair
32:41Benjamin?
32:44I guess you
32:44could say that yeah.
32:46Then Delgadillo
32:47violated the same
32:48street code
32:49he blames Eunice
32:50for breaking
32:50and snitched.
32:52It's Justin?
32:57Yeah.
32:58Okay.
32:59Who is Justin
33:00with?
33:01Pedro.
33:02What's their last
33:03names?
33:04Brothers?
33:06Yes.
33:07What did they do?
33:09Who's their name?
33:12Justin Sean?
33:13So that's
33:14Justin Salinas 10.
33:16Yes sir.
33:17Juju.
33:18Yeah.
33:19And he had a
33:19Glock pistol
33:20and you saw
33:23him
33:23shoot yours.
33:29And wasn't
33:29you?
33:30It was you.
33:33Was there a point
33:34that you all
33:35decided
33:36you were going
33:37to take his
33:38life for what
33:39he had done?
33:40Was it just
33:40understood
33:41that that had
33:42to happen?
33:43I guess you
33:44could say that
33:44it wasn't
33:45really no
33:46no huddle up
33:48no hey
33:49let's talk
33:49about this
33:50hey this
33:50what we're
33:51going to
33:51do
33:51it wasn't
33:51nah it
33:52was just
33:53I
33:54we seen
33:55how he
33:55was moving
33:56he was
33:56moving
33:56it wasn't
33:57really no
33:57word
33:57no discussion
33:58it was just
33:58I guess
33:59it's always
33:59still this
34:00was going
34:00to happen.
34:01Delgadillo
34:02still denies
34:03pulling the
34:03trigger that
34:04killed
34:04Yunus
34:05Alhasiniani
34:05but he admits
34:07to being the
34:07one who
34:08sealed the
34:09young addict's
34:09fate.
34:11So torture
34:12torment
34:13murder
34:14it appears
34:15to be
34:16a straight
34:17line
34:17started
34:18by you
34:19this
34:20momentum
34:21escalated
34:22by the
34:23other
34:23armed
34:24men
34:24who
34:25you
34:25called
34:25in
34:26right
34:27wasn't
34:29this all
34:29set in
34:30motion
34:30by you
34:31Benjamin?
34:33Yeah
34:33I mean
34:34you
34:34you
34:34say
34:35that
34:35I mean
34:35in a
34:35way
34:35I
34:35know
34:36I'm
34:37really
34:37the
34:38start
34:38and
34:39the
34:39cause
34:39of
34:39all
34:40this
34:40For the
34:41man
34:41who
34:41created
34:42the
34:42violent
34:42momentum
34:43that
34:43night
34:43justice
34:44would
34:44be
34:45swift
34:45and
34:45harsh
34:46You
34:48made
34:48a lot
34:48of
34:48strange
34:49decisions
34:49afterwards
34:50interacting
34:50with
34:51law
34:51enforcement
34:51and
34:52the
34:52courts
34:52I
34:53mean
34:53yeah
34:54yeah
34:54there's
34:54a lot
34:55of
34:55things
34:55I wish
34:55I would
34:56have
34:56done
34:56differently
34:57Such
34:58as
34:58what
34:58Really
34:59I
34:59wish
34:59I
35:00would
35:00have
35:00just
35:00went
35:00from
35:01the
35:01start
35:01of
35:02my
35:02whole
35:02my
35:03whole
35:03case
35:04would
35:05have
35:05just
35:05started
35:05off
35:05different
35:07the
35:07whole
35:08way
35:09through
35:09really
35:11cause
35:12Not
35:12talking
35:12Yeah
35:13I
35:13placed
35:14my
35:14once
35:15I
35:15did
35:15that
35:16I
35:16placed
35:16myself
35:17on
35:17the
35:17scene
35:17placed
35:17myself
35:18everywhere
35:18I
35:19handed
35:19myself
35:20a
35:20life
35:20sentence
35:20You
35:22did
35:22it
35:22to
35:22yourself
35:22Yeah
35:23Once
35:25he
35:25was actually
35:25in
35:26county
35:26jail
35:26I
35:27think
35:27he
35:27began
35:27looking
35:28really
35:28long
35:28and hard
35:29about
35:29his
35:30role
35:30as a
35:31snitch
35:31people
35:33who
35:33snitch
35:34in jail
35:35people don't look at him very favorably
35:37and he's going to have to live with these people for a long time
35:40He ultimately did not testify at all He took a deal with the DA's office
35:48he opted to take 50 years rather than testify against his co-defendants
35:54In that interrogation you mixed a bunch of half-truths with lies finally naming your accomplices one by one right to detectives and then you refused to testify right
36:08Yeah
36:08Why? Why did you refuse to testify?
36:11I mean
36:12I mean
36:12I mean
36:12I mean
36:16By the code
36:18Even if privately with detectives you've already essentially snitched
36:22I mean
36:23Yeah
36:23Like
36:24I ain't finna
36:24Yeah
36:25That's just something
36:26They told you that would cost you more years
36:29If you didn't testify
36:31Oh yeah
36:32They told me if I got
36:33If I testified
36:34They would
36:35Time reduction
36:37Time this
36:38Time
36:38Give me like
36:3920 years
36:40Something like that
36:41Man
36:41I'm good
36:43Can't do that
36:44Can't do it
36:45You're in here
36:46Doing 50 years
36:48Yeah
36:49For your part in this crime
36:50Yeah
36:51Right
36:51Far more than anyone else implicated in the case
36:55Mm-hmm
36:55Right
36:56Do you feel like you took the fall
36:57For this murder?
37:01Mm-hmm
37:01I mean
37:02I mean
37:05It all plays
37:06It all plays out
37:07Like
37:08I don't really necessarily say I took the fall
37:11But
37:12I guess I'm just the one who got stuck with it
37:14I guess we could say that
37:16You better ask about me
37:19I'm VDA
37:20You said you knew the difference between right and wrong
37:24Mm-hmm
37:25Kill a man
37:26For acting like a junkie
37:28When you the one turned him into a junkie
37:30How do you account for that?
37:32Mm-hmm
37:33Yeah?
37:42No
37:42No
37:42What began as a sadistic punishment over a drug theft
37:49Ended in the brutal murder of a young addict by his dealer
37:53You know, one of the things that separates criminal life from normal people
37:58Mm-hmm
37:59Is how cheap life can be, right?
38:03Mm-hmm
38:03It seems to me that he was acting when he took your drugs
38:09Just like a junkie
38:11Mm-hmm
38:12And you all helped turn him into that junkie
38:17Mm-hmm
38:18So then once he acts like the junkie that you turned him into
38:21You have to punish him?
38:23You have to kill him?
38:24I mean, for a few hundred bucks?
38:27And to maintain your image?
38:31Mm-hmm
38:31Yeah
38:32See
38:33I grew up selling dope
38:36Hitting licks
38:37Stuff like that
38:38Because my mama grew up struggling
38:41Single parent
38:42So now that's wrong
38:44For me trying to help my mama
38:46Which is right
38:47But what I'm doing is wrong
38:48Right
38:49So y'all lock me up
38:50Delgadio may now be locked up until he's in his 70s
38:54Far longer than the man he says actually shot Eunice
38:57Justin Salinas
38:59Ultimately, the state dropped all charges against Salinas
39:02Who was at the time convicted in an unrelated federal drug trafficking case
39:07And sentenced to 30 years in prison
39:09Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger
39:12Delgadio now takes responsibility for the murder
39:15There is some poetic justice in your sentence
39:18In that, you know, none of this would have happened
39:21At least that night
39:23The way it happened
39:24But for you
39:26Mm-hmm
39:27Right?
39:28Eunice was on his own downward spiral
39:31But he wouldn't have been murdered that night
39:35If you didn't set in motion
39:36This chain of events
39:38This momentum of violence
39:40Mm-hmm
39:41It was you who sealed Eunice's fate that night
39:44Mm-hmm
39:44You accept responsibility for that?
39:46I accepted my
39:47My consequences
39:49That's why I be speaking kind of the way I speak
39:52I'm not really messed up about my situation
39:55Because the whole situation happened because of me
40:00So you accepted
40:01I mean, I know what I did was bad
40:04Really bad
40:05Like, but I still don't feel that 50 is acceptable for what I did
40:11Like, 20, 30
40:13Give me something I can do
40:15Like, I caught this case when I was 20, 21
40:18Like, nobody really thinks they're right state of mind
40:21Especially doing drugs and this lifestyle
40:23You young
40:25You f*** up
40:26You mess up
40:26I just, I just want a second chance
40:29Just give me a chance
40:30Something
40:30Like, I can show you better than I can tell you
40:32Like, that old, old peasy, old Benji
40:36Me
40:36That's not me no more
40:38Like
40:38Why should we believe that?
40:41Uh, I mean
40:42It's not really
40:43Like, I tell a lot of people
40:46I ain't really gonna tell you to believe me
40:48I'm gonna show you
40:49Do you have true remorse in your heart
40:52For Eunice and his family?
40:54If you would ask me truthfully
40:57If I would do anything different
40:58I told you
40:59I can't say I would do anything different
41:01But I do regret
41:02And I do feel bad for him
41:04Passing away and dying
41:06That was never really my intention
41:08But it was really never meant to go that far
41:11You got 50 years
41:12Eunice's family got a life sentence
41:15Yeah
41:15Right?
41:16Yeah
41:16Imagine how his mother feels
41:19Every time the birthday comes around
41:21Every time the holidays comes around
41:23How would your mother feel?
41:26And, I mean
41:26I ain't gonna lie
41:27Like I said
41:28I've thought about that
41:28Like
41:29I did a lot of seg time too
41:32So, you know
41:33I had a lot of time by myself
41:34In my cell to think about this
41:36So
41:37I thought about my case
41:38I thought about
41:39What if it was me instead
41:40Not him
41:41Like
41:41How my mama would feel
41:43How my family would feel about this
41:44That ain't no good feeling
41:46Of course
41:47Eunice Al-Hasanyani's family
41:49Is devastated by his violent loss
41:51They tried everything to help him rid himself of the drugs
41:55And dealers like Delgadillo
41:57They tried hard, it sounds like
41:58To save that man from himself
42:00And from
42:01From you
42:02Yeah
42:03From y'all
42:04Yeah
42:05His mother showed up
42:07After you all kidnapped him
42:09Did you know that?
42:10Mm-mm
42:10That's how desperate she was
42:12To save him
42:14The morning of the murder
42:17The victim's mother
42:18And other family members
42:20Mounted a rescue effort of their own
42:22Starting at his last known location
42:24Eunice's mother forced her way
42:26Into the apartment
42:27To check herself
42:28And didn't find Eunice there at all
42:30She knew her son
42:31Would always call her
42:34Always talk to her
42:35And she hadn't heard anything from him
42:37So she was pretty persistent
42:38Her and the family members
42:42Continued looking for Eunice
42:43But to his mother's eternal grief
42:47It was too late
42:4822-year-old Eunice Al-Hasanyani
42:51Was already dead
42:53A young son had been taken from her
42:56By the very men who fed
42:58And fed off of
43:00His addiction
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