The Real Murders on Elm Street Season 2 Episode 6

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00:00When all this happened, it was the day before Christmas Eve.

00:17That day I was sick.

00:21I had a cold, so I didn't go to work.

00:30A pretty close neighbor, Jerry, came to the door, and Helen, Helen, come quick.

00:46And he said, Mary Lou and Dorothy both are missing.

00:53So, my son, I thought I'd walk over there with you.

01:07I had a jollo, a little smile, didn't hear not one peep out of nothing.

01:19I just found them upstairs.

01:25It was a shock.

01:28They were blood from the living room all the way to the basement floor.

01:35When my son got to the basement, he heard it least.

01:44Mom, don't come.

01:48Don't come.

01:49Don't come.

02:02Don't come.

02:37It was the 23rd of December, 1997.

02:48I worked as a detective in the Homicide Special Assignment Section.

02:56You know, you never know what you're in for when you get to work, so you hope it's slow because it's Christmas time.

03:04I was looking forward to spending Christmas with my family, you know, a ton of food, visiting, opening presents and things of that nature.

03:12But the call came in and we were dispatched out to Elm Street.

03:17Elm Street was a neighborhood that stood out by itself, like its own little peninsula.

03:29It wasn't a lot of crime or any action.

03:32As I got out the vehicle, you can see a guy standing in front of the house.

03:40He had a hook on one arm, and that was just really odd to see someone with a hook on their arm.

03:47And he said, his name was Jerry Drury.

03:54Wanting us to, you know, go in the house.

03:57He was very, very frantic.

03:58As I walk in the house, you can smell the blood.

04:15Blood.

04:18A Christmas tree.

04:21Those two things don't go together at all.

04:23There were footprints leading down to the basement.

04:40Just like, what am I going to see when I get down there?

04:43Coming in.

05:03See you next time.

05:05Come on.

05:08This one is 10 or more.

05:10in the basement there was a pile of clothes

05:17but it really wasn't an ordinary pile of clothes

05:22there was something wrong

05:25as I pulled back the clothes

05:29there's a body

05:33all you're seeing was the plastic bag over their head

05:37with the duct tape around their neck

05:39there was so much blood

05:41you couldn't see a face

05:43I mean I've not seen anything like that

05:47since I've been at homicide

05:49on the left side of the basement

05:54there was another body

05:56and in the same manner

05:58with a bag over the head

06:00duct tape around the bag

06:02when I went down and saw the second body

06:07there was a tube sticking out of the bag

06:10they were elderly ladies

06:15I had elderly parents

06:18and I just couldn't imagine

06:19having to come home to something that gruesome

06:22it was just really really horrific

06:26I was working for the Detroit Police Department

06:40in the homicide section

06:42when I arrived

06:45we found out that Jerry's wife Mary Lou

06:49was 57 years old

06:51and his mother-in-law Dorothy Gilbert

06:55was 74 years old

06:57on oxygen

06:58and more or less disabled

07:00when you first enter a house

07:05the evidence starts writing the picture for you

07:08in this case

07:13there was blood and drag marks

07:16it looked as if there may have been a fight or a struggle

07:22so it is my belief that they were alive

07:29when they were taken to the basement

07:31I would say that

07:35whoever done this

07:37preyed on them

07:40the murder itself was brutal

07:43and they left a trail behind them

07:47which means that

07:48we weren't looking at a professional criminal

07:50what really actually stood out

07:57is that

07:57there were like claw marks

07:59on the desk

08:01I remember it like yesterday

08:04that was strange

08:06because Jerry

08:07he had a hook on his arm

08:08and the fact that

08:11instead of completing a search

08:13for his wife

08:14he went and got someone

08:16to go into the basement of the house

08:18so maybe

08:22he was involved in it himself

08:24I was 20 years old in 1997

08:35I lived on Elm Street

08:39since I was 5 years old

08:40and we knew everybody

08:44like even if we didn't know your name

08:46we knew your face

08:47but when I seen my mom

08:50my heart

08:51it was in my stomach

08:52my mom said they killed

08:54Mary Lou and Dorothy

08:56and

08:57she was hysterical

08:59she was bawling

09:00and crying

09:01and Jerry's in the back of a cop car

09:03and I'm just

09:05I'm just as shocked

09:07as everybody else

09:08I moved into the neighborhood

09:10and I was like 5

09:11even as a kid

09:14he came across as cold

09:16like he didn't really look at me

09:18it was like

09:20he gave me an eeriness

09:21about him

09:22but it could be because

09:23he just didn't speak

09:24Jerry stayed in that cop car

09:27for a long time

09:28and

09:30I don't know

09:31like what was going on

09:32I don't know

09:35I think we all

09:37like everybody

09:37was actually scared

09:39Jerry

09:44he said he had left

09:45about 9.30 in the morning

09:46he had a plumbing job

09:48that he went to

09:49and that he arrived back

09:51at the house

09:51approximately around

09:5212.30

09:53and then he saw

09:55the blood trails

09:56we asked Mr. Drury

10:00what may possibly

10:02may have been missing

10:03and during the search

10:06of the house

10:07Mr. Drury discovered

10:09there was a bloody

10:11jewelry box

10:12that was empty

10:13$400 in cash

10:16was missing

10:17and credit cards

10:19were missing

10:19from the Drury home

10:21the checkbook was missing

10:24and they nickel-plated

10:29.38 revolver

10:31that had been

10:33taken

10:33out of the house

10:35so based on the evidence

10:38that we saw

10:39we knew it was a robbery

10:41and then

10:43we found out

10:44that Jerry

10:44had a business partner

10:45and it turned out

10:48that he was working

10:48so we were able

10:51to eliminate him

10:52as a suspect

10:53when the murders happened

10:57none of us

10:58slept in our house

10:59that day

10:59my mom

11:00my dad

11:00me

11:00my uncle

11:01none of us

11:01I was actually scared

11:04for the first time

11:06after it had happened

11:10I was scared

11:12I made my husband

11:14get up

11:15go to the bathroom

11:17with me

11:18because of the severity

11:22of the crime

11:23the bags over the head

11:25with the duct tape

11:27it's a horrible death

11:28when you're gasping for air

11:30and you can't get it

11:31it made me feel like

11:33I gotta get this case closed

11:35I gotta find out

11:37who did this

11:37and get them off the street

11:39before they do it again

11:40I knew

11:43that I was

11:45the camera out there

11:46it was Christmas time

11:57and

11:59we had a double homicide

12:01items missing

12:03weapons missing

12:05and a perpetrator

12:06that was out there

12:07that was armed and dangerous

12:08the crime

12:10itself was horrific

12:11the victim was

12:13Mary Lou Drury

12:14and Dorothy Gilbert

12:15what I saw

12:18in that house

12:19was like a nightmare

12:20I can't forget this case

12:23Elm Street

12:25it was not a crime

12:27written area

12:28so everyone was scared

12:30everybody was talking

12:33about it

12:34and we really did not

12:35think it was

12:36somebody from our

12:37neighborhood

12:37everybody was coming up

12:40with somebody

12:40trying to rob them

12:42but how could this

12:43happen with

12:44the neighbors

12:45right like that

12:45the classes were

12:46very close

12:47it was an eeriness

12:50in the air

12:51it was

12:55it was just a shame

12:57I didn't want

13:03to believe

13:05that

13:06Mary Lou would

13:08die like her

13:10it kind of shook me

13:18to the core

13:18like it was

13:20it was one of the

13:21most heinous

13:22things that I've ever

13:24like this was

13:26Elm Street

13:26you didn't litter

13:30you didn't bust

13:32the glass

13:33like you did

13:33on the other blocks

13:34like all the kids

13:35played together

13:36it was just

13:36it was nice

13:37and I just could not

13:40believe

13:41that this happened

13:43to them

13:44like oh my god

13:47I love Mary Lou

13:56just as well

13:57as my mom

13:57she never corrected

14:02you

14:02she kind of let you

14:04learn your own way

14:04she was

14:07super nice to me

14:08and her mother

14:10Dorothy was more

14:11nice than Mary Lou

14:12they were

14:14like family

14:15back then

14:19in Detroit

14:19murders didn't

14:20get put on the news

14:21and we got

14:24news crews

14:25out there

14:25we got channel

14:26four or seven

14:27everybody out here

14:27now

14:28two elderly women

14:29have been found

14:30murdered in their

14:31Detroit home

14:32police are still

14:32searching for any

14:33witnesses

14:34residents are on edge

14:35after a brutal attack

14:36the day before

14:37Christmas on Elm Street

14:38at the time

14:42I was working

14:42as the crime

14:43reporter for the

14:43Detroit Free Press

14:44I get a call

14:45from my editor

14:46we got a breaking

14:47story

14:47we got a double

14:48murder

14:48you gotta go out

14:49Detroit was cold

14:52so I bundled up

14:55and waddled my way

14:57out to the scene

14:58at that time

15:00there had been

15:01a rash of home

15:02invasions and murders

15:03in the surrounding

15:04neighborhood

15:05just a few weeks

15:10before there had

15:11been a triple murder

15:12just a few blocks

15:13away

15:14two elderly sisters

15:30and a husband

15:32who was in his 80s

15:33had been stabbed

15:34to death

15:3512 days later

15:41before the Elm Street

15:43case

15:43about 4 miles

15:45away

15:45from Elm Street

15:46a mother

15:48a daughter

15:49and a grandson

15:50was actually

15:51shot to death

15:53in this case

15:56the home

15:56was also ransacked

15:58in all 3 cases

16:01there was no

16:02forced entry

16:02so based on the

16:05similarities

16:05the general public

16:07would say

16:08oh my god

16:09is there a murder

16:10spree going on

16:11in the city of Detroit

16:12the first thought

16:13the first thought

16:14the first thought

16:14that you have

16:15is

16:15could I be in danger

16:16like you've seen

16:19people get jacked

16:20people get robbed

16:21but this was like

16:23but this was like

16:23different

16:24this was like movie

16:27stuff

16:27we never locked

16:30we never locked our door

16:30on Elm Street

16:30and we was in the middle

16:32of Detroit

16:33that's how safe

16:35we thought we were

16:35it was a different

16:37feeling

16:38what Mary Lou

16:38and Dorothy called

16:39like it wasn't the same

16:41they was our neighbors

16:43and it was family

16:45I was on day shift

16:49when we got a call

16:52from the medical examiner

16:53with autopsy reports

16:56based on Mary Lou's

16:58injuries

16:59she was still alive

17:00during the time

17:01that they were putting

17:02the plastic bag

17:04around her neck

17:05and the killer

17:09or killers

17:10decided to do

17:11the same thing

17:12to Dorothy

17:12Dorothy had emphysema

17:17and it was just

17:18really horrific

17:19that you know

17:20that you would just

17:21stick a rag in her mouth

17:23duct tape her

17:25knowing that

17:27it had an oxygen tank

17:29the brutality

17:31of the killings

17:32and also

17:34the fact that

17:35the body

17:36was partially covered

17:37was just a true indicator

17:39that maybe

17:40it was somebody

17:41that knew them

17:42prior to the death

17:43when somebody

17:46covers the body

17:47it's not to hide

17:48the body

17:49it's to remove them

17:51from their vision

17:52so at that time

17:57we went back

17:58to the vicinity

17:58of the other murders

18:00to see

18:01are they connected

18:02we had to see

18:04if there's

18:05any similarities

18:05with the Elm Street case

18:07where we could say

18:10okay

18:11this perpetrator

18:12was over here as well

18:13well

18:15what you do

18:16a lot of times

18:17is you have to

18:18look for what we call

18:19a modus operandi

18:20we look for things

18:24that are similar

18:25to other crimes

18:26that have already

18:27occurred

18:27none of that

18:29was present

18:29at the time

18:30of our investigation

18:31one house

18:33the person

18:34was stabbed

18:35the other person

18:36was shot

18:37we discovered

18:39the only thing

18:40that actually

18:40connected them

18:41was that

18:42there was

18:43no forced entry

18:44there was never

18:48a correlation

18:49between them

18:50based on Dorothy's

18:53and Mary Lou's

18:54injuries

18:55the perpetrator

18:56just really had

18:57a vengeance

18:58against them

18:58it was a well-knit

19:03close community

19:04and the more

19:06that we looked

19:07and the more

19:08that we investigated

19:09it definitely felt

19:10as if they knew

19:11their assailants

19:13the evidence

19:15led us directly

19:16to Elm Street

19:17and that's where

19:19we started

19:19concentrating

19:20our energies

19:21the day after

19:31Mary Lou and Dorothy

19:32was killed

19:33it was Christmas Eve

19:35I don't even

19:38remember Christmas

19:39in 1997

19:40like we would

19:42rather not have

19:42Christmas that year

19:43you can't celebrate

19:46during that

19:46like nothing

19:48as brutal

19:49as ever happened

19:50but we went

19:57to the house

19:57I was with my mom

19:59it was horrible

20:00like because

20:01we was helping

20:02clean up

20:03and stuff like that

20:04mind you

20:08I'm 20

20:08and I'm just

20:09I honestly

20:11I was scared

20:13the lights

20:15presence

20:16everything like that

20:17was still there

20:17there was like

20:21splats of blood

20:22in places

20:23that they didn't

20:23clean up off the floor

20:24like the walls

20:25you could see

20:28where the trail

20:29of blood has been

20:30and like Jerry

20:32he cried a lot

20:33I can't forget

20:37like I have a picture

20:38in my head

20:39and why

20:41did this happen

20:43that was one thing

20:45I've never understood

20:46we had to find out

21:00who had a motive

21:01to actually commit

21:02the crime

21:03so we went

21:05and did a survey

21:06of the neighborhood

21:07during the canvas

21:09we discovered

21:10that the Drury family

21:11pretty much

21:12owned the block

21:13Mary Lou

21:15was in the business

21:16of renting

21:17the homes out

21:18she pretty much

21:20picked her own

21:20neighbors

21:21in this instance

21:24here

21:24Mary Lou

21:25knew everybody

21:26Mary Lou

21:29was the landlady

21:31and like

21:31she gave me

21:32big boss energy

21:33without

21:34flamboyance

21:35like she didn't

21:36have furs

21:37and she could have

21:38she wasn't flashy

21:39she was about

21:41her business

21:42you knew not

21:43to play with her

21:44like you knew

21:45to respect her

21:46that's the energy

21:47she gave me

21:48she had

21:52the office

21:52in the front

21:53that she would

21:55conduct her business

21:56people would come in

21:58and out

21:58to drop their rent off

21:59they really didn't

22:04lock the door

22:04so anyone

22:05in that neighborhood

22:07had an opportunity

22:08to be able

22:09to enter

22:09the dreary home

22:10the family

22:12they were pretty much

22:14vulnerable

22:14she was fair

22:16she rented

22:18with people

22:18who are on welfare

22:19if you didn't have

22:20your rent money

22:21she wasn't the type

22:22to be like

22:22you got 30 days

22:23and you're out of here

22:23I think Mary Lou

22:25was perhaps

22:26too trusting

22:27we all know

22:28what it's like

22:28to have a landlord

22:29it's not usually

22:30a loving and friendly

22:31relationship

22:32December 23rd

22:34was the day

22:35the homicides

22:36took place

22:37that was close

22:38to in the time

22:39that people

22:39would come in

22:40and pay rent

22:41to the dreary family

22:42during the search

22:48of the house

22:49I discovered

22:51that there was

22:51some weapons

22:52missing

22:52Mary Lou

22:58kept the gun

22:59at her desk

23:00you know

23:02a fight

23:03could escalate

23:04at any moment

23:05where we started

23:10asking people

23:11whether or not

23:12they seen

23:13anything remarkable

23:14at the time

23:15Jerry was at work

23:17from 9.30 a.m.

23:19up until 12.45 p.m.

23:21and that's when

23:25we discovered

23:26that one of the

23:28neighbors

23:28heard something

23:29Hazel Johnson

23:32who's sort of

23:33the next door

23:33neighbor

23:34maybe a little bit

23:35of a nosy body

23:36she was good

23:37friends with Mary Lou

23:38and it was

23:40Christmas time

23:40and so

23:42Hazel has some

23:42holiday cards

23:43that she wants

23:43to drop off

23:44to her friend

23:45the family

23:47they have five

23:48chihuahuas

23:48the dogs knew

23:50the neighbor Hazel

23:51very well

23:52Hazel was the

23:54cat lady on the street

23:55she saved all

23:56the cats

23:57if you walk

23:59past Hazel's house

24:00you might see her

24:00walking around

24:01with them all

24:02you know what I'm saying

24:02cats everywhere

24:04normally

24:05the dogs

24:06would stop barking

24:07when they smelled her

24:08well Hazel said

24:11that when she

24:11knocked on the door

24:12she could hear

24:13the dogs barking

24:14frantically

24:14the door

24:21was locked

24:22which was

24:23very unusual

24:24she's thinking

24:26that something's

24:27off

24:27but she wasn't

24:28sure

24:29if Hazel

24:31would have got

24:32inside that house

24:33that day

24:33she would have

24:34definitely

24:34came to the

24:35same fate

24:36as Mary Lou and Dorothy

24:37like

24:39if you walk

24:40past the house

24:41that's all you

24:41would hear

24:41is them dogs

24:42that's why

24:43everybody didn't

24:44understand how

24:45this happened

24:46is because

24:46all these dogs

24:47would have been

24:47barking and

24:48nobody heard

24:50nothing

24:50when I talked

24:51to the police

24:52I said

24:53I didn't hear

24:53the dogs barking

24:54but Pamela

24:56was the

24:58tenant that

24:58lived above

24:59Mary Lou and

25:00Dorothy

25:00maybe she

25:02had heard

25:02something

25:03my mom

25:07would take

25:07care of Dorothy

25:08all during the

25:09day

25:09and

25:11Pam

25:11moved in

25:12upstairs

25:12so she

25:13could be

25:13available

25:14at night

25:14she was

25:16super nice

25:18to me

25:18like

25:18she never

25:19yelled at me

25:20she never

25:20did nothing

25:21like that

25:22she was there

25:24to take care

25:24of Dorothy

25:25caregivers

25:26have a way

25:27of becoming

25:28endeared to

25:29the person

25:29they're giving

25:30care to

25:30I would

25:31imagine

25:32that having

25:32a trusted

25:33person

25:34in their

25:34midst

25:34to take

25:36care

25:36of their

25:37ailing

25:37mother

25:37and treat

25:39her as

25:39a grandmother

25:40must have

25:40felt like

25:41a blessing

25:42and based

25:45on the

25:46information

25:47that we

25:48received

25:48Mary Lou

25:50and Dorothy

25:50got along

25:51great with

25:52Pamela

25:52she even

25:54called

25:55Dorothy

25:55grandma

25:56the main

25:59problem

26:00was that

26:00Pamela

26:01Vannoy

26:02was nowhere

26:03to be found

26:04the door

26:05was locked

26:06her vehicle

26:07was left

26:07outside

26:08the question

26:09was where

26:10was Pamela

26:11where is

26:12the caregiver

26:12what time

26:14did she leave

26:14and where

26:15did she go

26:16and why

26:17hadn't she

26:17returned

26:18we ended up

26:22getting a search

26:23for her

26:24apartment

26:24and looking

26:27at her

26:28apartment

26:28it seemed

26:29like she

26:29just disappeared

26:30if someone

26:31was going

26:32out of town

26:32certain things

26:33that would

26:33have been

26:33missing

26:34and those

26:34things were

26:35not missing

26:35at that time

26:36we were

26:37thinking that

26:38Pamela

26:38could be

26:39the third

26:39victim

26:40Pamela

26:41Vannoy

26:41could have

26:42walked in

26:42on the

26:42murderers

26:43in the act

26:44and they

26:44could have

26:44killed her

26:45too

26:45so there

26:46could have

26:46been

26:47three

26:47victims

26:48that day

26:48instead

26:48of two

26:49the day

27:01after the

27:02murders

27:02of

27:03Mary Lou

27:03Drury

27:04who was

27:05Jerry's

27:05wife

27:06and

27:06Dorothy

27:07Gilbert

27:07who was

27:08Mary Lou's

27:08mother

27:09everyone's

27:10talking

27:11everybody's

27:11there

27:12trying to

27:12figure out

27:13who could

27:14it be

27:14but then

27:15the investigators

27:16started looking

27:17around

27:18and asking

27:19who's supposed

27:20to be here

27:20and isn't

27:21here

27:21guess who

27:22it was

27:23Pamela

27:24Vannoy

27:24Pamela

27:25Vannoy

27:25was a

27:26caretaker

27:26and was

27:27really close

27:28to the

27:28family

27:28she lived

27:30right upstairs

27:31but at this

27:33point she was

27:34nowhere to be

27:35found

27:35this gave us

27:38even a higher

27:39intensity

27:40on the search

27:40for her

27:41she too

27:42could have

27:42been a victim

27:43so we

27:45called in

27:45the first

27:46person

27:46that we

27:46talked to

27:47the homeowner

27:48Jerry

27:48he was

27:50thinking

27:51on what

27:51else he

27:52may have

27:52missed

27:53and he

27:56actually

27:56gave us

27:56information

27:57that

27:58on the

27:58day

27:58of the

27:59murders

27:59he saw

28:01Pamela

28:01and

28:02Mary Lou

28:03talking

28:04for a

28:04long

28:04time

28:05he said

28:07she had

28:08a boyfriend

28:08who was

28:09living

28:10with her

28:10on and

28:11off

28:11Pamela

28:13and Charles

28:13their

28:14relationship

28:14sort of

28:15volatile

28:16Charles

28:18was around

28:19did odd

28:20jobs

28:20early on

28:22a Drury

28:23family

28:23felt like

28:24he could help

28:25with the

28:25house

28:25and the

28:26maintenance

28:26Charles

28:28was a

28:28handyman

28:29but he

28:31had a

28:31violent

28:32past

28:32so

28:35Jerry

28:35thinks

28:35maybe

28:36something's

28:37off

28:37from day

28:38one

28:39it was

28:40always

28:41a feeling

28:41about

28:41Charles

28:42it looked

28:44pretty bad

28:45he never

28:46spoke to

28:47us

28:47much

28:47I was

28:49actually

28:49scared

28:50for Pam

28:51later

28:59that day

28:59we found

29:01a witness

29:01that

29:02Pamela

29:02came to

29:03her

29:03to use

29:04her

29:05telephone

29:05she said

29:09the morning

29:09of the

29:10murders

29:10on December

29:1123rd

29:12that

29:13Pamela

29:13Vannoy

29:14and Charles

29:15Vaughn

29:15showed up

29:16at her

29:16house

29:16and she

29:18was carrying

29:18plastic

29:19bags

29:19Pam

29:21had a

29:21lot

29:21of her

29:22personal

29:22belongings

29:23and she

29:24wanted to

29:24leave them

29:24at her

29:25house

29:25and Charles

29:27went straight

29:27to the

29:28bathroom

29:28she didn't

29:29think

29:29anything

29:30of it

29:31until

29:34when Charles

29:34came back

29:35he pulled

29:35a gun

29:36and said

29:36look

29:37you didn't

29:37see us

29:38and then

29:38they

29:39disappeared

29:39it was

29:42a nickel

29:42plated

29:43.38

29:43revolver

29:44it looked

29:45like the

29:46one

29:46that was

29:46missing

29:47at that

29:48moment

29:49we suspect

29:50that Charles

29:51killed

29:52Mary Lou

29:52and Dorothy

29:54he was

29:56armed and

29:56dangerous

29:57he actually

29:58threatened a

29:58witness

29:59so there

30:00was no

30:00telling if

30:01he would

30:01use that

30:02weapon

30:02for

30:04something

30:04worse

30:05I

30:13continued

30:13to

30:14canvas

30:14the

30:15neighborhood

30:15we

30:19found

30:19a

30:20witness

30:20he

30:21made

30:21a

30:21statement

30:21that

30:22was

30:22revealing

30:23in

30:23several

30:23ways

30:24so

30:26the

30:27neighbor

30:27Helen

30:28had been

30:29drinking

30:29with

30:30Mary Lou

30:30the night

30:30before

30:31you know

30:34it was

30:34Christmas time

30:35my mother

30:37she worked

30:38for Mary Lou

30:39like everybody

30:40else

30:40throughout

30:41neighborhood

30:41but Mary Lou

30:43took her to

30:43bingo

30:44every night

30:44five nights

30:45a week

30:45that night

30:48Mary Lou

30:49told

30:49Helen

30:50that she

30:51had caught

30:52Pamela

30:52stealing

30:53$15

30:53from her

30:54bingo

30:55envelope

30:55and

31:01things

31:02went

31:02sour

31:02between

31:03the two

31:04we

31:05found out

31:06Mary Lou

31:06told Helen

31:07that they

31:07had been

31:08trying to

31:08help her

31:09out

31:09because

31:10Pamela

31:10was a

31:10drug

31:11addict

31:11ask

31:13Mary

31:14to

31:14be

31:15careful

31:16of

31:18what

31:19you're

31:19doing

31:20Pamela

31:22used

31:22heroin

31:23and

31:23heroin

31:24moves

31:24people

31:25into

31:25a

31:25different

31:26category

31:26because

31:27now

31:27they

31:28need

31:29drugs

31:29just

31:29to

31:29maintain

31:30their

31:31own

31:31physical

31:32strength

31:32and

31:33they're

31:33more

31:34inclined

31:34to

31:34take

31:35something

31:35that's

31:36not

31:36theirs

31:36Pamela

31:38she

31:39really

31:39messed

31:40up

31:40her

31:40trust

31:41with

31:41Mary Lou

31:43wanted

31:43to be

31:43able

31:44to

31:44trust

31:44you

31:44but

31:45if

31:45you

31:45lose

31:45her

31:46trust

31:46she

31:46didn't

31:46want

31:47you

31:47inside

31:47her

31:48house

31:48no

31:48more

31:49that's

31:49what

31:50was

31:50so

31:50hurtful

31:52about

31:53it

31:53I

31:54knew

31:55Pam

31:56was

31:57no

31:57good

31:58it

32:00was

32:00discovered

32:01that

32:01Mary Lou

32:02was

32:02going

32:03to evict

32:03Pamela

32:04the next

32:04day

32:05Pam

32:07wanted

32:07to get

32:08an

32:08extension

32:09and

32:10Mary Lou

32:11said

32:12no

32:12because

32:12you

32:13stole

32:13you

32:14have

32:14to

32:14leave

32:15so

32:17Pamela

32:18Benoy

32:18wasn't

32:19on the

32:19scene

32:20because

32:20she was

32:21supposed

32:21to be

32:21evicted

32:21that

32:22very

32:22day

32:22why

32:23because

32:24she had

32:24her sticky

32:24fingers

32:25in

32:25Mary Lou's

32:26bingo

32:26purse

32:27it

32:30it

32:30was

32:30too

32:30much

32:31of

32:31a

32:31coincidence

32:31that

32:32she

32:33got

32:33evicted

32:34from

32:34the

32:34home

32:35and

32:36the

32:36murders

32:36happened

32:36the

32:37same

32:37day

32:37was

32:38Pam

32:39the

32:39victim

32:39or

32:39was

32:40she

32:40actually

32:41the

32:41perpetrator

32:42of

32:42this

32:42particular

32:43crime

32:43the

32:46cops

32:47used

32:47to

32:47say

32:47at

32:47the

32:47time

32:47let's

32:48heat

32:48these

32:48people

32:48up

32:48and

32:49they

32:50started

32:50blasting

32:50that

32:51and

32:51pasting

32:51it

32:52all

32:52over

32:52the

32:52news

32:52media

32:53so

32:53their

32:54faces

32:54were

32:54on

32:54TV

32:55we

32:56said

32:56look

32:57if

32:57you

32:57see

32:57these

32:57people

32:58they're

32:59armed

32:59and

32:59dangerous

33:00please

33:00call

33:01I'm

33:03like

33:03looking

33:03on

33:03the

33:03TV

33:04and

33:05could

33:05not

33:06believe

33:06what

33:07I

33:07was

33:07seeing

33:07I

33:08knew

33:09exactly

33:10who

33:10they

33:10were

33:10talking

33:11about

33:11somebody

33:11that

33:12had

33:13access

33:13to

33:13her

33:14mother

33:14that

33:15was

33:15helping

33:15her

33:16it

33:16was

33:17just

33:17unbelievable

33:18it

33:19was

33:19just

33:19unbelievable

33:20turns

33:25out

33:26some

33:26clerk

33:27sees

33:27their

33:27pictures

33:28they

33:28just

33:28checked

33:29in

33:29calls

33:30911

33:31Christmas

33:32Eve

33:331997

33:34someone

33:35recognized

33:35Charles

33:36Vaughn

33:37the

33:37manager

33:38gave

33:39us

33:39the

33:39information

33:39that

33:40they

33:40checked

33:40in

33:40on

33:40December

33:4123rd

33:42and

33:42we

33:42knew

33:42that

33:43Charles

33:43was

33:43armed

33:44and

33:44dangerous

33:44so

33:46we

33:47mobilized

33:48some units

33:48to go

33:49with us

33:49we

33:51had

33:51to

33:51be

33:52on

33:52high

33:52alert

33:53there

33:55was

33:55a

33:55possibility

33:56that

33:57it

33:57could

33:57be

33:57shots

33:58fired

33:58this

34:00could

34:01escalate

34:01at

34:02any

34:02moment

34:03you

34:04know

34:04that

34:04people

34:05are

34:05armed

34:05they

34:06stole

34:06guns

34:06this

34:07is

34:07the

34:07single

34:08most

34:08dangerous

34:08thing

34:09that

34:09any

34:09cop

34:09can

34:09ever

34:10do

34:19after

34:21the

34:21murder

34:21someone

34:25recognized

34:26Charles

34:27Vaughn

34:28and

34:28Pamela

34:28Vannoy

34:29at

34:29a hotel

34:30that

34:30was

34:30in

34:31Dearborn

34:31Michigan

34:31we

34:33knew

34:34that

34:34Charles

34:34Vaughn

34:35had

34:35a

34:35weapon

34:36we

34:36saw

34:37movement

34:37by

34:37the

34:38vending

34:38machines

34:38it

34:39was

34:40Pamela

34:40Vannoy

34:41and

34:41Charles

34:41Vaughn

34:42we

34:46moved

34:46in

34:47abruptly

34:48we

34:53did

34:53take

34:53them

34:53into

34:54custody

34:54there

34:57was

34:57no

34:57fight

34:58and

34:59they

34:59made

34:59the

34:59arrest

34:59and

35:06we

35:07searched

35:07our

35:07hotel

35:07room

35:08I

35:10pulled

35:11back

35:11the

35:11heater

35:11there

35:12was

35:13money

35:13that

35:13was

35:13behind

35:14their

35:14credit

35:15cards

35:16as

35:17well

35:17as

35:18a

35:18nickel

35:18plated

35:1838

35:19and

35:20another

35:20weapon

35:21was

35:21a

35:2138

35:22Cobra

35:22and

35:23it

35:23appeared

35:23to

35:24have

35:24dried

35:24up

35:25blood

35:25on

35:25the

35:26actual

35:26weapon

35:26itself

35:27when

35:30the

35:30forensics

35:30came

35:31back

35:31the

35:32blood

35:32belonged

35:33to

35:33Mary

35:33Lou

35:33once

35:36Pamela

35:36and

35:37Charles

35:37were

35:37under

35:38arrest

35:38we

35:39talked

35:40to

35:40them

35:40separately

35:41Charles

35:43said

35:43Pamela

35:44is a

35:45drug

35:45addict

35:46she's

35:48jonesing

35:48for

35:48heroin

35:49and so

35:50she's

35:50the one

35:50coming up

35:51with this

35:51concocted

35:52scheme

35:52to kill

35:53these

35:53people

35:53he said

35:56he had

35:56no idea

35:57what

35:57Pamela

35:57had

35:58planned

35:58when he

35:59went upstairs

36:00to her

36:01apartment

36:01and left

36:02her downstairs

36:03with Mary

36:04Lou

36:04and Dorothy

36:05he said

36:09a fight

36:10ensued

36:11downstairs

36:11and then

36:15everything

36:15just went

36:16quiet

36:16after 20

36:19minutes

36:20of not

36:21hearing

36:21anything

36:21he went

36:22downstairs

36:23he saw

36:25Pamela

36:26standing

36:26over the

36:27bodies

36:27Charles

36:30said that

36:30he helped

36:31her move

36:31Dorothy's

36:32body

36:32because he

36:33was afraid

36:34of what

36:34she was

36:35capable

36:35of doing

36:36Pamela

36:38has a

36:39different

36:39version

36:39of this

36:39story

36:40according

36:41to Pamela

36:42Charles

36:42wanted to

36:43do a

36:43robbery

36:43he said

36:45they've

36:46used us

36:46long

36:47enough

36:47somehow

36:50this

36:52wonderful

36:52family

36:53who took

36:53them in

36:54gave them

36:55room and

36:55board

36:56and pocket

36:57money

36:57and paid

36:57them for

36:58an honest

36:58day's

36:58work

36:59that somehow

37:00he was

37:01owed

37:01more

37:02they were

37:05going to

37:06wait

37:06until

37:07Gerald

37:07went to

37:08work

37:08went to

37:09go

37:09downstairs

37:09coast is

37:13clear

37:13the plan

37:14was simple

37:14tie him up

37:15and rob

37:16him

37:16no harm

37:16no foul

37:17little bit

37:17of harm

37:18little bit

37:18of foul

37:18but certainly

37:19no bloodshed

37:20and murder

37:20but Pamela

37:24says

37:24once they

37:25go back

37:25inside

37:26some

37:27kind of

37:28switch

37:29went off

37:30and Charles

37:31became

37:32violently

37:32angry

37:33she said

37:34that

37:35Mary Lou

37:36was begging

37:36and pleading

37:37before

37:38Charles did

37:39anything to

37:39her mother

37:40Dorothy

37:40but he

37:41didn't care

37:42Pamela

37:43said she

37:43tried to

37:44intervene

37:45and stop

37:46him from

37:47what would

37:47become a

37:47murderous

37:48frenzy

37:48he turns

37:50the gun

37:51on his

37:52girlfriend

37:52and says

37:54this

37:54deserves it

37:55it

37:58it

37:58wasn't a

37:58matter

37:59of

37:59who

37:59did

37:59it

37:59both

38:00of

38:00them

38:00were

38:01there

38:01at

38:01the

38:01time

38:01both

38:02of

38:02them

38:02became

38:03enraged

38:03because

38:04they had

38:04nowhere

38:05to go

38:05they had

38:06no money

38:06they had

38:08no family

38:09and friends

38:09that would

38:09take them

38:10in

38:10at that

38:11particular

38:11time

38:12truthfully

38:14I don't

38:14believe it

38:15I don't

38:15believe that

38:16one person

38:16did all

38:17of that

38:17it was a

38:19two person

38:20job

38:20it's my

38:28belief that

38:29Dorothy heard

38:30the fight

38:31heard the

38:32struggle

38:32heard the

38:33yelling

38:33and came

38:34to the

38:35assistance

38:35of her

38:36daughter

38:36who was

38:37fighting

38:38for her

38:38life

38:38and she

38:42too got

38:42caught up

38:43in the

38:43web

38:44of the

38:46killing

38:46they were

38:49alive

38:50when they

38:50were taken

38:51to the

38:51basement

38:51and they

38:53died a

38:54horrible

38:54death

38:55they were

38:58both

38:58sentenced to

38:59life in

38:59prison

39:00which I

39:01think

39:01was well

39:02deserved

39:03it's a

39:06sense of

39:07satisfaction

39:08that you

39:10were able

39:10to close

39:10the case

39:11but the

39:14whole block

39:14was devastated

39:15by a

39:15homicide

39:16whatever

39:19sense of

39:20safety

39:20that this

39:21tight-knit

39:21Elm Street

39:22community

39:22had felt

39:23that was

39:24over forever

39:25our life

39:28pivoted

39:29at that

39:29point

39:30it didn't

39:31like that

39:32was a pivot

39:33point of

39:34all of our

39:34lives

39:35my mom

39:38didn't celebrate

39:39another Christmas

39:40until my son

39:41came

39:41Mary Lou

39:44was

39:45like a

39:48sister

39:48to me

39:51a world

39:52that never

39:53changed

39:54I just

39:58can't

40:00understand

40:01why

40:03why

40:07somebody

40:08would

40:08just

40:09just

40:10just

40:12to

40:14her

40:14to

40:15her

40:16to

40:17her

40:18to

40:19her

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