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00:00what's up everybody welcome to another edition of new york got game and happy thanksgiving week
00:20this is a special holiday edition of new york got game i'm your guy dexter henry and today
00:27we're going to be serving up a full plate of knicks talk yes we mean that literally the knicks
00:32they're in the middle of a five game road trip we're deep into this early season stretch and
00:37there's a lot for knicks fans to chew on this holiday week so in the spirit of the holiday
00:42we're going to build our very own knicks giving plate we're going to have the turkey we're going
00:47to have the stuffing the cranberry sauce if that is part of your taste the dessert all the pieces
00:52that define this team that's what we're going to do we're going to build a plate and i couldn't think
00:56of a better person to break all of this down with other than my guy he is dean of knicks film school
01:03the one and only mr jonathan mackery jay mack what's good my friend how you doing i'm doing good uh i
01:11forget if i mentioned this to you offhandedly dex but we are hosting our very first uh thanksgiving
01:17as a as a family since my wife and i got married where we're cooking our own turkey having everybody
01:23at the table um i am someone who very much looks forward to the day after thanksgiving sandwich
01:29much more than the the meal itself so i don't know how that's going to influence my my my assessment
01:36here today as we build this perfect thanksgiving plate but just something to keep in mind okay so i
01:42i got questions for you yeah because you did mention this to me but i do have questions one i love
01:48thanksgiving i just want to say that i love thanksgiving it's one of my favorite holidays uh
01:52it's actually good we should try to consider what we should be thankful for and it's just great being
01:57around family i like the cooking part of it now i participate in the cooking how much contribution in
02:03the mackery household is are you how much are you contributing to the cooking like i need to know how
02:09much part of the meal prep team are you sure doing are you just uh end of the bench guy or you know
02:15start five just let me try no i what was uh what was russell westbrook's usage the year he averaged
02:22the triple double that's that's me um in the macro yes okay yeah no so i i will be responsible for
02:30the turkey for both potato dishes for and for the stuffing and my wife will make her uh famed uh sweet
02:40potatoes with um some melted marshmallows on top uh i think my mother-in-law is bringing maybe some
02:47cheeses and some some desserts and uh yeah i i i think that that basically sums it up so i feel like
02:55if you're the person making the turkey there's a lot of pressure on you and we'll we'll get to how
02:59that ties into what we do there's a lot of pressure what we're going to talk about here i should say
03:03there's a lot of pressure on you making the turkey because you don't want to be at a thanksgiving
03:07dinner and the turkey's whack like you can't you don't that's that's not that hasn't happened in
03:12my life just want to say that has never been my experience but if it did it'd be kind of terrible
03:16so let me again i'll go back to i don't know what the what the proper analogy is um you know if i'm
03:23if i'm calm alone here i guess maybe my wife is john stockton because she has ordered
03:27a cheesecloth which i learned about two days ago is not a literal uh cloth made of cheese i was there
03:35but it isn't yeah it is in fact something that helps keep the moisture in and she also uh this arrived
03:41i think today or yesterday um a a wireless bluetooth radar enabled um meat thermometer that can
03:53tell us like you know i don't know if a ding goes off on my phone every time it goes up one more
03:58degree um so she she is she i shouldn't have made it out to be like i'm doing everything she is
04:04she is setting me up for success such that if i fail uh it is i really have no one to blame but
04:12myself but yourself okay that's good you're not gonna fail though you're gonna end up being the
04:15mvp of thanksgiving i have full faith in you if you fail i'm very kind of you if you fail i'm sure
04:21we'll all find out about it and then it won't be good because it won't it might not be you that
04:25says it and it might not be your wife that says it but your kids they absolutely will no i'll know
04:32i'm a i'm a pretty just like i am an honest judge of the basketball team that i root for i am an
04:38honest judge of my own cooking so i i will i will let everybody know if it if it's not turned out
04:43the way it is intended there we go i'm excited i got some cooking to do for this thanksgiving it
04:47should be should be fun um i'm always excited about that should be a good time but
04:51we are here to make a nicks giving plate first time we're doing this on the show new york got
04:56game i hit up j mac about the idea he was like yeah i like it let's do it let's make a let's make
05:01our own place so j mac's gonna make a plate i'm gonna make a plate we're gonna start with
05:05the thing that we were just talking about cooking we're talking about the turkey
05:09we're gonna start with that the turkey is the main engine of your thanksgiving meal
05:14for me personally it's not necessarily the star of the table and in my household i mean i like
05:21some other things that i get to enjoy thanksgiving more than turkey but for the purposes of everybody
05:25we're gonna talk about the turkey so j mac since you are the guest here i'm gonna let you go first
05:31here what who's in your plate who or what is the turkey on your nicks giving plate so i actually am i
05:40think i'm probably in the minority and that i really enjoy the way that maybe not turkey tastes
05:47but i enjoy the way that turkey goes with a lot of other things uh i love the way turkey goes with
05:55the cranberry sauce with the stuffing which are things that we are going to talk about shortly
05:59and i certainly love the way turkey takes on a tastes on a sandwich the next day the way you
06:05described it as the engine i thought was appropriate because you know all of those other sides that you
06:13have on your table are nice but without the turkey as the central focus they really kind of get lost
06:21so um i went back and forth between two players uh for this particular uh award or for this for this
06:28part of the dish i should say and i ultimately sided with with jalen brunson and that was it was
06:35an interesting decision for me because i've been talking actually talked on my own show nicks film
06:38school recently earlier tonight um about who is the most important nick and i think uh as we have had
06:46a certain uh player be absent uh from the roster recently because he's been hurt that has become more
06:51of a conversation for as much as i think that is an interesting conversation we know if this team is
06:57going to do anything this year they're going to do it um on the shoulders of of jalen brunson he is the
07:03he is not only the engine but the closer and uh for me if he was not here well i'm not saying that
07:10the knicks couldn't still find some success it would kind of feel like a bunch of thanksgiving sides
07:17without something to bring it all together i think he is the uniting force and again he is the he is the
07:22engine as you said uh that is going to deliver them wherever they go this year all right so i like
07:28that i like that you went with jalen brunson i thought long and hard about this and i was going
07:34to go with jalen brunson i was going to go maybe with the other player that you talked about that's
07:38not been with the knicks for quite some time and then i said you know what particularly because of
07:43this season we're talking about this season someone go a little bit different with the turkey here
07:48okay and i see your face jay man you're like where's dex going on this where i'm so fascinated
07:53to hear where this is going so i said i thought about this season i thought about the offseason i
08:01thought about what the knicks changed and i said the biggest change was mike brown and mike brown is my
08:08turkey here not because i'm calling mike brown the turkey just want to be very clear i am not doing
08:13that what i'm saying is so much of this season in my opinion obviously you know a thing that we you
08:20and i talk about i've talked about my show you talk about in your show a lot with jeremy we say players
08:24have agency right this is something we like to say all the time and i think oftentimes a lot is put on
08:30coaches but the coach was the biggest change that this team made this season it was the biggest change
08:36was to me was changing the coach and the philosophy we've already seen how some players have bought in
08:42to his offensive philosophy next their fourth and fourth at the time of us recording this in office
08:47of rating however the defense looks a little shaky right 19th in defensive rating now i do think
08:54that mike brown who i think sometimes gets underrated in terms of he's a defensive coach that's how he made
09:01his bones actually first in the nba i think everybody now looks at his time in golden state what he did
09:05to sacramento and they forget about the defense do i think this team can get closer to a top 10 defense
09:11i do i don't like the way they've looked recently i understand that i think if he can do that and
09:16help the knicks get there and players buy in and some players start playing like they're supposed to
09:21or they get another player back who's a very important defensive player i think they can get
09:25to where they need to be now i say all that to say it isn't all on him but i'm calling him the
09:31engineer this season because he's the change i think can drive a lot of the change that we've already
09:35seen with this team offensively and maybe the change that is to come or not to come
09:39defensively for this team um so i'm calling him the main ingredient at the table main ingredient
09:45on my plate putting mike brown as the turkey here that's that's what you know you know what i find
09:52particularly fascinating about that decision yeah for a lot of people i think the turkey is like the
09:59boring part of thanksgiving and is like you know um and i'm thinking about the last head coach of the
10:07knicks where it almost prompts you like oh let's do something different with the turkey list this
10:12year let's deep fry the turkey let's maybe brine the turkey or do do whatever it is and it feels like
10:18the knicks reached a point this past summer where they said you know what we're gonna try to go in a
10:24bit of a different direction here it was it was kind of get a little dry and so let's and now we're in
10:30this early portion of the season where i think that people are still trying to figure out um whether
10:36that change is going to be an inspired one or whether you know they maybe should have gone with
10:42the stuck with the tried and true and it'll be interesting to see decks as we maybe have a
10:48conversation after 30 games or 45 games or 60 games how that conversation develops over the course of the
10:56season i agree but this also goes to the point i was talking about with you earlier when we talked
11:01about you making the turkey there's a lot of pressure on the making of the turkey right you don't want to
11:07be the person that messes up the turkey because that's all everybody will remember after thanksgiving
11:11is that you messed up the turkey mike brown's got a lot of pressure on him we know this we know this
11:18and again i i was hesitant to put him on this because of what i always say and you say too is that
11:23players have agency but as a coach changing the philosophy is not easy you said what do you say
11:29you said they maybe deep fried the turkey maybe they brine the turkey a little bit more i don't
11:34whatever change you want to use for mike brown yeah it's a different turkey but it's a big part of the
11:40table that's what i'll say i i like your pick for jalen brunson i don't think you i don't think
11:44that's wrong but i like your plate's looking good i got no problem with that that's fine if i could if i
11:49could start my play with jalen brunson i'm feeling pretty good you're doing pretty good i would agree
11:54with that okay so we got so okay i got mike brown is my turkey j max got jalen brunson the next thing
12:00i'm going to do is this for me one of my favorite sides okay stuffing you also can't mess up the
12:08stuffing you mess up the stuffing get out of here like okay can't be messing up the stuffing um i think
12:13stuffing and i i kind of described the stuffing here j mack in terms of making these categories
12:18the underrated ingredient right because i think it's such an underrated staple of your thanksgiving
12:23plate so who's or what is the stuffing for you when it comes to your nextgiving plate well i i don't know
12:30that it quite fits anymore or rather i should say if he was underrated i certainly don't think he's
12:37underrated now and that's ojan and obi and i i i like the the description of the stuffing is like
12:45the underrated star of the plate because when people think of stuffing and they're like it's you know
12:50it's even in the word it's it's it's stuff you know um but if you to me if you don't have stuffing
12:58you don't have thanksgiving and it's my favorite ingredient on the plate and it is the thing you know
13:04i know i said the turkey kind of ties everything together the the stuffing is the thing that could
13:10put it over the top and that's why for me ojan and obi is the easy choice here because i think
13:16you've seen now over the last however many games it's been i guess three games or four games without
13:21him um this team is not going anywhere without og he he he takes on the most difficult defensive
13:28assignment every night he slots everything everybody else into their proper roles on that end of the
13:33floor obviously he's good at you know hitting threes on the other end he just gives them more
13:37size he makes them more physically um intimidating more of a physical presence and without him i think
13:44it's kind of exposing them you know to the degree that if you had a thanksgiving table which i can't even
13:50imagine with okay there's the turkey and there's like all these other sides over here but where's the
13:54stuffing it's like it just doesn't add up it it's not going to work and i think you're seeing right
14:00now unfortunately this next team is not working um as it was intended to without uh ojan and obi
14:06healthy and in the lineup yeah man this is the one part of the plate that you and i it's going to be
14:14the same i don't know how the rest of this is going to shake out but you and i are the same on this
14:19to me stuffing is ojan and obi right for all the reasons you mentioned the two-way presence
14:25lockdown defense i think this season looking at him in mike brown system the smart spacing that i
14:31think is kind of flown under the radar him buying in crashing the boards from the corners i mean i
14:37think he's there's an argument you could have made i knew you were thinking about this j mac
14:41he could have been the most important nick he could have been the turkey i don't think that would
14:45have been crazy at all whatsoever you could if you think jalen brunson's the most important person
14:50on the team ojan and obi is right there if he's not the most important person on the team because
14:56you're feeling it right now as he's been out with the hamstring injury he's their best two-way player
15:00he's their best defensive player as you just said j mac uh shooting 48 for the field 39 from downtown
15:07i mean again the knicks are just feeling it right now and how their defense is set and everything that
15:13they could do if they want to get to the heights that i'm talking about that i talked about with mike
15:17brown earlier and maybe getting there into a top 10 or 12 defense they're gonna have to do that
15:22with ojan and obi so i'm with you too i love some stuffing stuffing to me yeah you don't have
15:28thanksgiving dinner without the stuffing like if you do i don't want to beat your house like
15:34i don't i don't want to do that so and the next you don't want to think about a world of the
15:40knicks trying to compete for a title without ojan and obi you don't you want that stuffing of course
15:44i mean just to put some numbers on it they've played uh three there's been 347 minutes this
15:51season where ojan and obi has not been on the floor either because he's been on the bench in a game
15:55where he's been healthy or he's been hurt in those 347 minutes per nba.com they're getting outscored by
16:01eight points per hundred possessions um that's like a would be a bottom you know five or six number in
16:08the league that's really really rough and again it just speaks to um how he is you know again in
16:15that discussion for just like stuffing is in the discussion right there with turkey if it if you don't
16:20have it it's not thanksgiving if you don't have ojan and obi the knicks are not a contender
16:24let me ask you this about oji since we're here and we both agree that he is the stuffing
16:29how long of him being out will have you concerned about this team or do you view this as look
16:39oji's had his injury now hamstring just get him right if he's back postseason we're straight
16:45yeah i mean i think that really this is a another way of asking how important is is playoff seating
16:51to you because right no i and let me just say i i think they may have gotten a little fortunate
16:56here their the stretch of games that they have coming up now is is not that intimidating give
17:02or take a you know what's going to be a very very very uh interesting homecoming for rj barrett and
17:07emmanuel quickly with the toronto raptors in a week um but they should be able to be okay that said
17:14you know and again we have no reason to believe this is the case but if he was out until like sometime
17:18into january um i think they could absolutely be in danger of falling far enough down in the standings
17:25where all of a sudden you're concerned about getting you know home court in the first round
17:30let alone a top two seed i i really do think he's that important and yeah at that point i would be
17:36concerned all right fair we'll see we don't hey we don't want to go that long without stuff yeah all
17:41right next thing on the plate cranberry sauce now cranberry sauce is one of those things
17:48i could have it on my plate oh always need it on my plate i don't dislike very interesting dislike
17:56would be dislike would be strong but i'm not i'm just saying personally for me this is not how i'm
18:00defining this category i'm because i always feel like cranberry sauce is kind of polarizing some
18:06people love it some people hate it i'm in the middle i'm a little indifferent on it like i'll have it
18:11i like it because i like cranberry sauce so this is going to be the thing either people love or hate
18:18on the next team who or what is the cranberry sauce for you mr mackerel this is the easiest call for me
18:26uh this is josh hart and i love cranberry sauce uh and i love josh hart it doesn't mean that cranberry
18:35sauce is perfect doesn't mean that josh hart is perfect uh there are times where like you can
18:42you can have cranberry like here's the thing nice thing about the thanksgiving plate is you get
18:46everything piled on there and you you kind of mix and match and you could take a bite of food a bite
18:53of your from your thanksgiving plate with and if you have cranberry with like the wrong other thing
18:57it's like i kind of wish that that wasn't there i wish i could do away with that and there are
19:02certainly times over the course of especially the last couple seasons here with josh hart where he's
19:07out there and you may wish he wasn't at the same time my favorite bite of food for the entire maybe
19:16my favorite bite of food for the entire year is the day after thanksgiving where i make my day after
19:21thanksgiving sandwich and i pile my turkey and my stuffing on and then i spread some mayo on the roll
19:28and right next to the on top of the mayo i put my cranberry sauce and there is something about that
19:33blend of the cranberry sauce and the mayo i know i'm really getting into the weeds here that will
19:38elevate that sandwich to the level of of like you know it's an 11 out of 10 and to me when josh hart
19:48is going right that's what he does for your basketball team um when he's when he's shooting it confidently
19:54especially from the corners which by the way he's doing this year um when he's flying around when
19:59he's grabbing those 70 30 balls that you know uh you know steve carter talked about when he was on
20:04the olympic team um you know and and i just think you know especially as i think that you know the
20:11knicks are maybe going through some of these struggles people are questioning uh at least i'm
20:16questioning you know with the some of the moves they made in recent years have they have they lost too
20:20much of what made them them made them special josh hart to me is like the you know he he is even more
20:27vital because you know the role he has in the locker room and and to the culture you know and even if
20:34it's not always what you want on your plate um i think at the end of the day you know again similar
20:40to turkey and similar to stuffing you can't imagine your your thanksgiving without it and so at the end
20:46of the day you're hoping that josh hart is that cranberry sauce on that black friday sandwich
20:52that's that's that's what you're hoping that he is okay yeah i see that absolutely and i do think to
20:58what you're saying about josh hart um and everybody knows you're a big josh hart fan i love the way josh
21:04hart plays um a lot of people around the knicks love the way he plays like former knicks love the way he
21:10plays um he has become i don't want to say polarizing but kind of in the fan base in the last
21:16year absolutely has um yeah he absolutely has i saw it through the the playoff front last year
21:21well i was like man and i'm not saying it wasn't warranted because there were times where he was not
21:26good um and it was definitely warranted but i definitely saw that polarization there so okay
21:31i thought about this with the cranberry sauce and i think the other player here is probably pretty
21:38obvious and for me it's cat currently towns look cat has called himself one of the greatest shooting
21:49big men of all time i was just on with j mac on his show nba takedown the other day we were talking
21:54about cat and whether or not he's a top five center in the league right we know how well he can score
22:00from the outside and inside and out when he's locked in to put a little thanksgiving theme here it's a feast
22:05when he's off he's got polarizing side dish like you might like j mac said you might want him as the
22:13cranberry sauce touching the other parts of things on your plate and sometimes it works sometimes it
22:17doesn't hit and that's it this season look it's been interesting averaging just under 22 points a game
22:24he's got 12 and a half boards a game three over almost three and a half assists but the shooting has
22:30been good just 42 from the field below 32 from downtown that's been rough but i think the thing
22:37i think about j mac when it comes to cat that makes him so polarizing and i think so frustrating for the
22:44nick fans the people who cover the team are the stupid fouls that's the part that you're just like
22:51ah i don't know if i want this why did we sign up for this this is hurting the team this is hurting
22:57all the momentum this is killing some of the joy that you might feel and might have and so
23:02he's maddeningly inconsistent and when it's good oh it's good whenever it's good it's got to be like
23:12how you feel about the cranberry sauce on the sandwich on black friday that's that's how it is
23:18when it's not you're like i could get this off my plate but the part is you know you need him
23:26not maybe as much as like an og but you need him to be at his best you need him to be the cranberry
23:31sauce that's hitting like j mac likes on his sandwich on black friday that's what you need
23:37for the knicks to get what they want i even mentioned the defense which we know is always
23:41going to be shaky but it's the dumb fouls if he didn't have the dumb fouls it would be a lot better
23:46we probably wouldn't be talking about him as cranberry sauce at all whatsoever
23:49but they do exist go ahead j mac you have something to say i'll say that that's some
23:56expensive cranberry sauce that is what you don't you know what that's part of the story though right
24:02some people are like yo the cranberry sauce is too expensive it's too expensive i can save money
24:08i can save money if it's the josh hart cranberry being the cranberry sauce you feel differently about
24:14it because it didn't cost as much yeah put it like this if you're paying as much as you're paying
24:20for that cranberry sauce the carthi towns cranberry sauce when you take that bite of that sandwich on
24:25black friday it better have you in the best food coma ever that's what you need and sometimes we don't
24:31even get a food coma you're just angry that's not what you want no no it's absolutely not but uh
24:38yeah i i don't i think it's a great pick um and and one that i may return to in a moment
24:44oh this is gonna oh this is gonna be interesting because we we're gonna give you a big plate because
24:50we don't take too much of your time now put my plate at thanksgiving a lot more than the amount
24:54of food that is here i will say that but the last thing we're going to talk about well actually i have
24:59a bonus thing that i didn't tell you about but i'm gonna get to that sure okay dessert and how i define
25:05dessert i don't are you a big dessert guy jback are you like a big sweet to dessert guy this is gonna
25:11i don't know if i should say this now because it's going to influence or it's going to uh explain why i
25:16picked who i picked for dessert i will just say very quickly that generally speaking i am not as as big
25:23of a dessert person as most okay i'm the same so you you you're in good company you are not alone but i
25:30but i do enjoy certain desserts and good desserts particularly at thanksgiving okay a lot of people
25:35a lot of y'all out there love some dessert you love some sweets it brings you joy i'm not saying
25:40it doesn't bring me and jmac joy that's not what i'm saying but it's the thing that brings you joy
25:45maybe at the thanksgiving table and so for dessert we're gonna say this is the part of the team this
25:49next team that brings joy whether it's to you to the rest of the players whatever it is so this is
25:54dessert so jmac who is or what is your dessert on your next giving plate so uh let me let me first i'm
26:05gonna give a shout out to my wife here who i was just talking about before she loves dessert she for
26:09her she would skip the meal and and she would go write dessert and i think that's how a lot of people
26:14are uh and with all the respect of those people that's not me and for me when i when i when i look at
26:23the dessert table and this is because i'm a crazy person all i'm seeing is calories and i'm looking
26:31at all these different food items and i am i'm thinking is what's really worth the calories and there
26:39is actually there are a few things that bother me more than when i take because here's the thing
26:44you take a slice of pie you can't put it in your plate and then have one bite of pie and be like
26:48i don't really like this no you got to eat the whole thing nothing makes me more disappointed when
26:52i put some piece of dessert in my in my plate and i take a bite and i'm like oh this isn't it
26:57wait wait wait wait wait wait yeah hold on yeah yeah if you take a slice of pie why do you have to
27:02eat why do you have to if you don't like it it's not good why do you have to oh i i i have i i'm the
27:07guy that eats my daughter's leftover mac and cheese i feel so bad about wasting food i just i it's a thing
27:13with me i like leftovers i'll eat i'm the leftover king that's just me i feel bad about wasting food
27:21but i feel bad about subjecting myself to food that isn't good and i think i care about that more
27:26maybe i should care about that more but so again this is my relationship to deserve where i i look at
27:34i i'm always thinking of like is this worth it you know is this worth it is this worth my investment is
27:40this worth my time is this worth what little space in my belly i have left and that is why my dessert
27:49is carl anthony towns because for all of the reasons that you just explained why he is your
27:56cranberry sauce for those same exact reasons he is my dessert because i watch this player and i find
28:02myself having the same conversation about him which is man there are some nights where he is going to
28:08bring me complete and total and utter joy and then there are other nights where i will have taken the
28:14slice of pie that is underwhelming and i'll be sitting at it i'm going to be saying man i i wish
28:18i did not have this anywhere near me right now now to bring it fully home you said this is something
28:25that really truly provides joy to me you could have a great thanksgiving meal in terms of the the entree
28:34the appetizers the entree portion but in order for it to really and this goes for any meal for it to be
28:40that meal that you will never forget you need the dessert and that is why for me carl anthony towns
28:47was the only pick for this because i believe again going back to kind of what you just said a minute ago
28:53if this dicks roster as currently constituted wins a championship it will be because carl anthony towns
29:00puts them over the top do i think they need him to win every big game down the stretch well that maybe
29:08depends on mr robinson and what he looks like as the season goes along who also by the way is
29:12someone i consider for this but i i just think they're going to need him i think they're going
29:16to need him at their best and i think if i am feeling joy um you know around the middle of june uh of
29:23the year 2026 it is because um carl anthony towns came through in a big way and i will not be regretting my
29:31choice of dessert yo see i love when somebody presents something in a way i'm like i didn't
29:38think about it that way and i like that i could i didn't even think i really considered cat for dessert
29:43um maybe because i was a little bit annoyed and had the camera so polarizing so when i thought about
29:47polarizing i did it there but you made a great point it was a great case for cat and granted look
29:52some people are going to hear your take on dessert and they're going to be like j mac is weird
29:56i understand i understand where you're coming from i just want to let you know you should you
30:01feel you should feel seen i understand i appreciate you coming from on very much so and sometimes you
30:07gotta look at dessert you have to consider is it worth it i think it's it's fair to do that and we
30:12just talked about cat being expensive cranberry sauce well that's some expensive dessert right there
30:19when you pay for the good dessert you want it to hit i want it to be good i remember once sorry very
30:26briefly over one time we were we were living in the city and and we were uh going to my in-laws for
30:32for dessert and we went to some fancy like fufu pastry shop and i i i don't know how much money
30:38i it was way too much money and we brought them to the to the thanksgiving table and people and it
30:44like nobody was impressed and it honestly wasn't even that good and that was that that was like
30:50that was cat's game against the orlando magic so yeah don't don't go to that dessert place yeah
30:55nobody was nobody's impressed with that effort at all and that is the worst not you know what's
30:59worse you bought all the dessert for other people it's not like you just it was just you and your
31:04wife or your family other people were supposed to enjoy this too and then nobody enjoyed it so and
31:09they did it wasn't good it's not good okay so you kind of mentioned somebody in your consideration
31:16for dessert that i decided to go with that is mitchell robinson but when i specifically talk
31:21about mitchell robinson i'm talking about two things with him that could bring people joy
31:26number one availability that'll bring a lot of nicks fans joy is mitchell robinson going to actually be
31:33on the court now this season he's played in nine of the 15 games right and so so far so good especially
31:39with how things started where he was doing load management to start the season and that whole thing
31:44was just weird but when he's available it brings you joy and why that brings you joy is because of
31:50how good he is as a rebounder particularly an offensive rebounder right now according cleaning
31:56the glass he's rebounding 26.4 percent of his team's misses that was over 30 percent just a week ago he's
32:02almost rebounding a third of the team's misses which is just absolutely insane this guy is an elite
32:08offensive rebounder he can change the game for the knicks when he is playing defense at a very high
32:14level which we have not seen from him in the last couple of games it can bring a lot of people to
32:18joy when he changes the game and just breaks another team's spirit with the offensive boards
32:23doesn't bring them joy but it sure brings the knicks fan base a lot of joy he is a game changer he is a
32:30huge x factor for the knicks and if he is playing and if he is rebounding in the way that knicks
32:38fans expect him to and they know he can bring and he's healthy that's pretty sweet right that's
32:45that's the perfect dessert you have with all the other stuff we mentioned whether it's mike brown
32:49or jalen brunson og ananobi or carthy towns whether you want him as dessert or cranberry stuffing if
32:55mitchell robinson is available and playing at a all nba defensive level
33:02that changes a lot of things for the knicks and you're feeling really good it's really sweet it's the kind
33:07of dessert that you take after and you're like as j mac just said that rounds out a really good meal
33:15a memorable meal and so he's to me the player that really brings the knicks fans joy because a lot of
33:23it's just can he be on the court can he do what we know that he can do and if he's doing that
33:30perfect dessert for this next team and by that definition of dessert the more traditional thinking
33:35of dessert i think uh the other guy who would probably at least deserve a mention is deuce mcbride
33:39and uh he was i thought of him too yeah that was you know when i thought of not zagging i those mitch
33:47and and deuce were the two guys that came up i like this first okay i i this came this came to me
33:53shout out to my executive producer ryan sampson because he i told him about the idea for the show
33:57he was like yo you got to do you got to add something here and i didn't tell i just throwing
34:02this at you randomly but he said okay what about he said take out the plate what about the people you
34:08you know sometimes you don't want at the thanksgiving table is there a knicks player that you will not
34:14want at thanksgiving table now for some of us we may have experienced this in our lives in our families
34:19somebody you might not want at the thanksgiving table i'm not going to say any names because i like
34:24going to thanksgiving dinner and j mack you shouldn't say any names either because i think
34:27you like going to your thanksgiving dinner and you're hosting so i would not do that but do you
34:32have a knicks player that you absolutely do not want at the table they could go you might kick them out
34:38the house and not give them thanksgiving or nick's giving dinner i should say a current nick it has to
34:44be current nick yes i mean the only it's unfortunate but the only the only choice that i
34:52really can make is the the nick that i think has probably been most well i was so i was going to
35:00go with gershine yabaselli so that was the first so was i so was yeah that that was the first name
35:05that came to my mind um but at the same time i i think he's starting to maybe you know because
35:15get a little bit more in line with the guy that the knicks thought they signed the only other contender
35:20that i would have for this and it's not one person it's kind of a collective group
35:24is the young players on the team which actually i'm gonna go with the young players on the team
35:31because you know what i don't you know what i don't want at my thanksgiving table is children
35:36and children are annoying and they should be at a different table in a different room ideally in a
35:43different house so uh my the underwhelming the put him in the guest house uh yeah uh the underwhelming
35:53you know trio i will say of and then you probably add dor to this list because he wasn't that great
35:59last night um of of colec of especially for comb dotty a more than anybody a 40 and you know throw
36:06dotty in there as well um the knicks could really use one of those guys to step up especially with these
36:12injuries and the fact that they have been underwhelming yeah they're they're the guests
36:15that can can uh get get out of my table i'm with you on this because i feel like while i thought
36:20about gershon yabaselli i felt like it's it's too soon for him and he is starting to you know hopefully
36:28round maybe round is not the best word uh get in dex i that's the word that came to my mind before and
36:34i'm like nope i called the word i let it slip before i was like that just feels wrong i did not mean it like
36:40that but that's what it just it felt a little wrong maybe he's uh getting himself into shape i
36:45know getting yourself into shape around thanksgiving is probably not the easiest as well for anybody but
36:50i we're not professional athletes so that's not the thing feels a little too soon for him
36:56i'm with you on the on the kids on the 2024 draft class and you also added mohammed diawara in there
37:03i do have a question for you though j mac and i don't know if you had talked about this on your show
37:07and this this came up on a live show i did last week but when we look at that draft class and the
37:13fact that right now especially now it's needed with the injuries to landry shaman to og and and obi um
37:21that you kind of need somebody there to step up who who is this necessarily an indictment on is it
37:30the front office because and i i just want to make this clear and you're the perfect
37:37person to talk to about this last season we had the minutes police out in full force
37:45and i will say this just i'm consistent i was somebody who said hey i think in games against
37:50lower level competition you can find some minutes for tyler coleck you can find some minutes for a
37:54report you can find a couple minutes with the calm dottie still we'll stand by that i do find it
38:00interesting that under a new coach in a new system these guys are still not playing now so a little
38:07bit the starter season but now they're not playing so is it that the front office missed out on them
38:11and it's an indictment on them or that the coach won't play or just realizes they're not good enough
38:19to play it's a it's an interesting question i'm curious as to what you think about that since you
38:24would not want them at the table yeah i mean ultimately i think it does fall on the front
38:28office both in selecting the players they selected and maybe you know for a variety of reasons that we
38:35don't have to get into right now not prioritizing those those younger players over the last or
38:40getting certain players into their pipeline over the last few years but i will say this dex and this
38:44is going to sound odd coming from my mouth because you know that there was no bigger fan of this person
38:49than me i think tibbs has to be a part of the conversation you know reaching up from the grave
38:55the man has not had a job with the organization in six months or whatever it is and yet because they
39:03had tibbs coaching the team up until this past june um and they knew that like look we we may draft a
39:12promising young player doesn't mean he's gonna play and is that really the best use of our resources so when
39:18you look at them going and taking him up a comdadi a potentially in part largely maybe because he was
39:27willing to accept less money where they they said all right that's a bigger priority dealing with the
39:31aprons the whole thing or or an older player in tyler kolak who they maybe figured all right
39:37if tibbs is is ever going to play a young player it might be this kind of scrappy you know player who's
39:43older player more experienced come in be a steady hand as opposed to reaching for someone that may
39:50have been a less of a sure thing more of a developmental project now is that why they made the
39:55picks that they made i i i don't know but i mean the reality was i i think they were very much um the
40:03front office for a lot of those years kind of catering to the coach and and how he wanted to go about
40:08his business so i i do feel at the very least his name should be mentioned although i do think this
40:14falls on the front office all right that that's fair i think i'm with you on this people you don't
40:19want a table right now no no no shade to anybody but uh 2024 draft class step it up you're gonna need
40:26them at some point so one of these guys that's trying to step up they they need somebody uh right
40:30now we'll see then maybe you can get to the adult table but i'm with you no kids at no kids at the
40:35table you gotta you gotta go to the kiddie table so that's what it's for they have a kid's table
40:40for a reason i agree you gotta sit at the kiddie table well j mac and i we won't be sitting at the
40:45kiddie table this thanksgiving j mac i like your thanks i like your nicks giving play i'm just
40:49called thanksgiving play i liked your nicks giving play i think my nicks giving play came out pretty
40:54good hopefully the nicks get a couple more wins before thanksgiving and uh you have yourself a
41:00good thanksgiving in that turkey hopefully it comes out good if it doesn't i'm gonna check in on you
41:05i'm gonna check in on you on thanksgiving and i'm gonna check in on you on black friday to make
41:08sure the cranberry sauce is hitting with the turkey and the stuffing on the sandwich because if it's
41:12not i'm gonna be like what happened there what went wrong you you may not need to check in on me i i may
41:18be calling you for advice mid uh mid basting uh you know so we'll we'll see how that goes but please
41:26keep your fingers uh across for me and uh i as always appreciate you having me on the show and uh talking a
41:33little uh nicks basketball here no man appreciate you thankful for you and all the great people
41:38there at nicks film school want to wish everybody all the nicks fans out there a happy thanksgiving
41:43hopefully you enjoyed this episode this nicks giving edition with myself and j mac please check
41:48out j mac and all his work with nicks film school i'm dexter henry we'll catch you next time another
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