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00:00What did you think when you found out that Laverne was going to be playing you in the series?
00:03What was your initial reaction?
00:06You know what?
00:07Everybody had an idea, and I had an idea who I thought should play it, and I had an idea.
00:11Who was it?
00:12Who did you think should play it initially?
00:15Sorry?
00:16Who did you initially think should play it?
00:22You know who I really liked?
00:24Who I thought, because they said they had to find somebody who looked younger, but had a mature head.
00:33And I really thought that, what's her name?
00:40Now you're going to be able to brain fart.
00:44Kerry Washington?
00:46No.
00:47No, no, no, no, no.
00:48I thought she was not right.
00:49I didn't think that, and I think she's a great actress.
00:51I didn't think Angela Bassett was right, because that was toting around.
00:54Because in the article, they said she had an Oprah vibe with a young Angela Bassett body.
00:59And so I thought, oh, they're going to do that.
01:01And I think Angela's a great actress.
01:03But you have to kind of know.
01:05I just didn't see it, as much as everybody saw it.
01:09They saw it for the body.
01:10They didn't really see anything.
01:12I was already telling you that.
01:13She could do that.
01:14But the woman that, oh, my God, I can't believe it.
01:18Where's my toast?
01:19What does she do?
01:20What has she been in?
01:22Oh, when she was in Moonlight, she played, I think, like the, oh, God, it's on tip of my tongue.
01:28Not, what's the singer's name?
01:32Janelle Monae?
01:34No, no, no.
01:35It's coming.
01:36It's coming.
01:36It's coming.
01:37It is.
01:38Hold on.
01:39She played in the Bond movie.
01:41British black actress.
01:42Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
01:43Oh, Naomi Harris.
01:45Naomi Harris.
01:46Thank you, Lord Jesus.
01:47Yes, Naomi Harris.
01:51Naomi Harris.
01:52I thought that she, she could stretch it.
01:54You know, I thought that she would be, I just watched her work and she knows how, she, and
01:58so she was one, she was on my list.
02:01I mean, I had Halle Berry on the list.
02:03I was, you know.
02:06Why not, baby?
02:07I was like, maybe Beyonce.
02:11Beyonce, but Naomi Harris and, and I thought that, that, that there was just, you know,
02:23it was just one of those moments that you were able to just like, you know, sit back
02:26and, and like fantasize about who, you know, could really play you.
02:32And Naomi Harris just kept coming back in.
02:33I don't know why.
02:34It's something about her depth or she, I don't know.
02:38Maybe that's the movie that she played deep in.
02:40And, and I just thought.
02:43So when Laverne did such a kick-ass job playing you, Laverne did an incredible job playing
02:48you, you know, when, when it's so funny, when, um, when Sandra said, you know, I want to,
02:56I want to, and let me say something, she had total creative control.
02:59She didn't have to call me and ask me anything.
03:01She could have just said, this is who I want and that's it.
03:03But she was, she was so, you know, very thoughtful and, and, and very gentle with me and kind.
03:10And she just wanted me to know who she thought.
03:12So when she said, she said, um, I'd like to offer the role to Laverne Cox.
03:16I said, Laverne Cox, she said, did she sit on that?
03:21I was like, she said, yeah.
03:22And I was like, wow.
03:24Okay.
03:24She said, just think about it a minute.
03:26Oh my God.
03:27I said, this is so weird.
03:30But I said, but it's so right.
03:32I said, oh my God, it's so right.
03:34And she said, I said, because I just felt like she has been through things and I have
03:38been through things and you, you have to, you have to have a sense of understanding.
03:46You know, how deep it is when you go through something.
03:51And I've been through, you know, use of marriage.
03:54I've been through, you know, just, it's just a lot of business, you know, people not doing
04:02right by you.
04:02I mean, there's a lot of stuff that I was working on to let go, you know, that was still
04:08has the, it's within me as my, my little barometer, like ding, ding, ding to know when
04:14you see a bullet, you know, it's not a ball and chain to me, but it is definitely my radar.
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