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00:00Start the clock.
00:30Start the clock.
01:00It's our last show of the season.
01:03It's our Thanksgiving show.
01:07I've already started my baking.
01:17I'm going to do it myself this year, Thanksgiving.
01:19I am.
01:21I probably should not have asked GTP how to do it.
01:25I asked them, how do you roast a turkey?
01:27Tell it looks like a chicken who can't afford a Zempic.
01:35Yeah, we always have our little winter break.
01:40We will come back in January, as always.
01:43We'll be back January 23rd.
01:45Mark, that's right in your book.
01:46And when we do come back, this all will be an incredible ballroom.
01:54I just want to tell you.
01:56I kid the president.
02:03Oh, boy.
02:03It was Muslim week at the White House this week.
02:10No, first he had Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia,
02:17the only guy who walks into the White House and goes, not enough gold.
02:20But, yes, you know Mohammed bin Salman.
02:28They call him MBS.
02:29He was there at the White House.
02:31Nothing to do with politics.
02:32Just with Thanksgiving approaching, Trump thought, who better to carve the turkey?
02:36Well, I kid the Saudis.
02:47You know, there was that little unpleasantness with OJ-ing the reporter.
02:50But, you know.
02:53But Trump loves this guy.
02:55Oh, what a bromance these two have.
02:58Get a room, you two.
02:59I mean, Jesus.
03:01Trump was showing him around the Oval Office.
03:03He showed him the, you know, Trump has that model of a 747.
03:06He shows everybody.
03:08And Mohammed bin Laden was very impressed with it.
03:12He said, it's beautiful.
03:13We can't wait to fly it into something.
03:19I kid the Saudis.
03:23No, they had a...
03:25He's...
03:25Now, MBS, he's not officially the head of state,
03:29so it couldn't be a state dinner.
03:30But they gave him a great big dinner.
03:32It was, in effect, a state dinner.
03:33You know, where they have, like, celebrities.
03:35You know who was there for the big dinner?
03:38Cristian Rinaldo, the soccer player.
03:40The Saudis love soccer,
03:41because it's the one sport you can play after they chop your hands off.
03:44It's insane.
03:45So, and then today, you know who was there today at the White House?
04:00Mindami, the new mayor of New York.
04:03And Trump said to him, I don't understand you guys.
04:09Why wait for the afterlife to enjoy the 72 virgins?
04:13That's what Jeffrey Epstein's are for on Earth.
04:21But it is amazing.
04:25I mean, I don't want to tip my thing at the end of the show,
04:27but this is exactly what I'm going to be talking about.
04:30He met him in person, Mandami, and great meeting.
04:34I mean, the night before, just like the night before I went there,
04:38he's an asshole, he's a shithead, you know, he's a communist.
04:42Trump's a great guy, great meeting.
04:44He said, you know, they asked him, you know,
04:46what about the communist things?
04:47Well, you know, he said, maybe he'll change.
04:49My views have changed.
04:53Trump said, I'd love to live in New York under this guy.
04:56He might be a great mayor.
04:58See, that's what it is.
04:59You've got to talk to people, negotiate.
05:00I mean, they're New Yorkers, you know?
05:05They negotiated.
05:07Mandami.
05:11They each got something they wanted.
05:13Mandami wanted Trump's help on affordability issues, yes.
05:16And Trump wanted a guarantee that he can still stand
05:19in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone.
05:25Oh, I kid, always with love.
05:27But yeah, I mean, the Trump, ooh, the Epstein thing,
05:31Trump did a total 180 last week.
05:34We were all talking about, he won't release the files.
05:35This week, it's like, well, the Epstein files.
05:38Oh, sure, we're going to release those.
05:40So they are going to release the Epstein files,
05:42but, you know, always the fine print.
05:45They're going to be redacted.
05:46So, you know, people are already saying,
05:49what's the point?
05:49Epstein got away with it.
05:51Well, he got away with having sacks with underage girls.
05:55He hung himself in his jail cell.
05:57I'm not sure that means getting away with something.
06:08David Bowie, he got away with it.
06:09No, Trump is very touchy about the Epstein thing.
06:22Since a reporter asked him, did you see this this week on,
06:25I think it was on Air Force One, brought up that issue.
06:28And Trump said, this is a woman reporter,
06:30he said to her, quiet piggy.
06:33Quiet piggy.
06:34And then, listen to this.
06:35At the press conference the next day,
06:37his press secretary, Carolyn Leavitt,
06:40spun this by saying, it's actually admirable.
06:44He said, it's the president being frank and open and honest.
06:47That's good.
06:48Well, in that case, shut up, bitch.
06:52No, you said.
06:58I mean, I'm telling you,
06:59if you go near this Epstein thing,
07:03he does not like it.
07:04I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene was his biggest ally,
07:06and then she was, you know, all in on,
07:08we've got to get the Epstein files.
07:10And this week, Trump went nuts on her.
07:12She's a disgrace.
07:13He said, he's a disgrace.
07:14She's wacky.
07:14She's a ranting lunatic.
07:16All I can say is, Marjorie, welcome to the club.
07:20All right, we've got a wonderful show for our finale.
07:23Donna Brazile and Michael Render,
07:25Killer Mike, are here.
07:27But first up,
07:28my first guest is a true phenomenon
07:31in the world of life improvement.
07:32She is host of the Mel Robbins podcast
07:34and author of the number one best-selling book,
07:37The Let Them Theory,
07:38a life-changing tool that millions of people
07:40can't stop talking about.
07:42True dat.
07:42Mel Robbins is up here.
07:47Hi.
07:48How are you?
07:49Hi.
07:49What a great pleasure to meet you.
07:51Nice to meet you.
07:52Thank you for having me.
07:53Hi, everybody.
07:54Hi.
07:56I know everybody wants you on their show.
08:00They do?
08:01You know they do.
08:04And you came here.
08:05I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.
08:07Oh, really?
08:07Well, thank you.
08:08Wow.
08:10We know this is true.
08:12I mean, to say your book is a phenomenon
08:15is an understatement.
08:17I mean, this is an era where people don't read anymore.
08:20I know.
08:21Yes.
08:21Somebody said to me the other day,
08:23oh, you know, Barnes & Noble,
08:24I always see people there.
08:25Yeah, they're buying a cat calendar.
08:28And The Let Them Theory.
08:30And The Let Them Theory.
08:31Yes.
08:32I mean, the numbers are just off the charts.
08:36If I went into the bookstore,
08:37would it be under self-help?
08:39Is that still a term that they use?
08:41Do you not like that term?
08:43Do you not care?
08:44Is it still self-help?
08:46Let them.
08:46I don't care what they call it
08:47as long as people read it.
08:49Let them.
08:50Yes.
08:51Okay.
08:54But, I mean, that is one of the more popular sections
08:57in the bookstore.
08:57And there's a lot of people in that.
09:00Why did your message resonate so much more
09:04than all the other people
09:05who were working that side of the street?
09:07Well, I'll tell you why.
09:08There's a number of reasons.
09:09First of all, it's a great freaking book.
09:10Like, as you read it,
09:11you can get through it in a day and a half.
09:13Right.
09:13It's hilarious and profound.
09:15Right.
09:16And it works.
09:18And you don't need to buy the book.
09:19I'm going to tell you how to use the theory.
09:20The theory is so simple.
09:22It basically is this.
09:23The fastest way to lower your stress
09:26and to have more peace and control in your life
09:28is stop trying to control everybody else,
09:31let them have their opinions, their behavior,
09:33and take all the power and time
09:35that you've been wasting on other people
09:36and bring it back here
09:38and let me focus on my thoughts, my actions,
09:42and the way that I want to live my life.
09:44And life gets very simple and a lot more peaceful
09:47and you feel more powerful and in control.
09:49And so that's how you use it.
09:52Four words, let them and let me.
09:54But here's why it works.
09:56It reduces the number one source of stress bill
10:00in everybody's life, and that's other people.
10:02Other people are so annoying.
10:05Right?
10:05Their opinions, their close talking,
10:08their judgments, their expectations.
10:10And the more you try to control them,
10:13the less control you feel.
10:15And it's much easier to just say, let them.
10:18It is.
10:19And it's also the other reason
10:20why this thing is spread around the world
10:21is when you start to read it,
10:23I'm the villain in the book,
10:24I'm the control freak that's really irritating,
10:26you're either going to see yourself or somebody you love.
10:29And so you start to read it
10:30and you feel better about your boss who you hate
10:32and you feel better that traffic isn't getting to you.
10:35And then you start to go, oh, my God,
10:36my mother needs this.
10:38My sister needs this.
10:40And so everybody is not only reading it, Bill,
10:43they're giving it to their families.
10:44And here's what I love.
10:46We all love saying, let them.
10:47There's an Irish version of this.
10:49I'm not going to say what it is.
10:50F them.
10:51Right?
10:51You could say that on basic TV now.
10:55Right.
10:55That's true.
10:56That's true.
10:56This is fucking HBO.
10:58That's true.
10:58Okay.
10:59So, you know, fuck them is the Irish version of this.
11:01And when you're like, let them, let them, let them,
11:04you feel superior.
11:06But then what happens is you now have to figure out,
11:09okay, what do I do?
11:09I realize my siblings never call me back
11:12and I make all the effort.
11:13Let them.
11:14My friends always go out without me
11:15and they don't invite me.
11:17My boss is rude to me and I don't like my job.
11:19Let them, let them, let them.
11:21But now what?
11:22Now you say, let me.
11:23Let me choose how I'm going to respond
11:27to the reality that I'm dealing with.
11:30And that's where you take your control back.
11:32And what I love about this bill
11:33and I love about people using it
11:35is that you first start using it
11:37because you are annoyed with other people.
11:38I mean, we have families
11:39because it teaches you how to love people you hate sometimes.
11:42And that's also why people get married.
11:44It teaches you that.
11:46But as you start to say, let them,
11:48you're forcing yourself to learn
11:49how to accept people as they are
11:51and as they're not.
11:53And you have to confront how judgmental you are
11:56of the other people in your life
11:58and learn how to let them be who they are,
12:00let them have the dignity of their own experience.
12:03And you start to recognize
12:04how much time and energy you burn up
12:06over the headlines,
12:08over people's expectations,
12:10over traffic.
12:11And it's stupid
12:12because your time and energy...
12:14But not everything is a let them case, right?
12:16Everything is.
12:18If you're being sexually harassed at the office,
12:20that's not a...
12:21Yep.
12:21That's a let them?
12:22Okay, well, here's what it is.
12:23Let them do it?
12:24Well, no, because they've already done it.
12:25So when you say let them,
12:27you're not allowing it.
12:27You're forcing yourself to recognize
12:29the situation you're in
12:31and that you're not going to change
12:33what's happening by trying to change them.
12:35You have to take the power and go,
12:37okay, well, let me recognize
12:38this is the situation I'm in.
12:39Let me stop gaslighting myself
12:41and making excuses
12:42and, like, sticking around
12:44and beating myself up
12:45and let me remind myself
12:48that I get to choose what I do next.
12:52Am I going to HR?
12:53Am I leaving this job?
12:54Am I hiring an attorney?
12:55All of the energy that you're spending
12:57complaining about it,
12:58worrying about it,
12:59beating yourself up,
13:00telling yourself there's nothing you can do,
13:01there's always something you can do.
13:03But that would be more like stop them.
13:06Yes.
13:07Than let them.
13:07Well, there are cases.
13:08Sometimes let them,
13:09it has to be stopped them, no?
13:10Of course.
13:11In situations where it's dangerous
13:12or discriminatory
13:14or somebody's getting hurt,
13:15of course you step in and stop them
13:16if that's your values.
13:17Because the number one rule is
13:19you can't change another person.
13:22People only change
13:23when they're ready to change for themselves.
13:25Period.
13:27Oh, yeah.
13:28I've learned that the hard way.
13:30Yes.
13:30We all have those.
13:31We all have.
13:32Yeah.
13:33Well, I mean,
13:34your life was the hard way.
13:36I mean,
13:37you came from places
13:40that most people haven't been.
13:42Deep in debt,
13:44drinking,
13:45day drinking.
13:45Well, wasn't that
13:46what you're doing today?
13:51Not drinking.
13:54And I don't,
13:55people think I smoked before the show.
13:56I don't smoke right before the show.
13:58I was going to say,
13:59that's a huge disappointment, everybody.
14:02That's true.
14:04That would be wrong.
14:06Well, my husband was like,
14:07okay, Mel,
14:08I know, let them,
14:09but don't smoke before the show,
14:10smoke after.
14:11I don't want you to embarrass yourself
14:12on television.
14:13Killer Mike's here.
14:14Trust me,
14:14it's going to happen.
14:21Okay.
14:22But before we run out of time,
14:24let's get to the other part of it.
14:25Because it's not just let them,
14:26it's let me.
14:27Yes.
14:27And you are very adamant in the book
14:30over and over,
14:30you make the point,
14:31one does not work without the other.
14:34Correct.
14:34So let's make sure people understand
14:36what the let me part of it is.
14:38Right.
14:38So once you start saying let them,
14:40and you protect your time and energy
14:42from other people,
14:43and you also force yourself
14:44to accept people as they are,
14:46you're never going to change your mom or dad.
14:47You've got to learn to let them be who they are.
14:49It'll reduce so much pressure in your life.
14:52Now pull it back here and say let me.
14:54Like, take the holidays.
14:54If you're going to go home
14:55and spend time with your family,
14:58stop gripping the wheel hoping it's different.
15:01These people have been the same their whole lives.
15:03So when you start going let them, right,
15:06you are forcing yourself to recognize
15:08they are who they are,
15:09they have their opinions,
15:10I'm just going to let them be.
15:11Now let me remind myself,
15:13I get to choose what I think about this.
15:15I get to choose how much time and energy I spend here.
15:17I mean, you can get up from a dining room table.
15:19You can get out of a text chain.
15:21You can divert a conversation away from a topic.
15:25You're not a victim here.
15:27You're in control of what you do in response.
15:30And if you look at,
15:31this is how you take responsibility for your life.
15:33This is how you change things for the better.
15:35And responsibility, Bill, is the ability to respond.
15:39That's what that word means.
15:40I mean, I feel you're doing my work here for me.
15:42This is like a theme show.
15:43Because, again, this is, I mean, again,
15:47this is going to be the end of my show.
15:48It's every year at Thanksgiving,
15:50I have to do basically the same theme,
15:52which is telling people, don't cut off your family.
15:55No.
15:56It's just terrible.
15:58And, you know, and I said this a few weeks,
16:00a few months ago,
16:01we did an editorial here on the show
16:03where I talked about Trump
16:04and the fact that there are things
16:06that really still I am very adamant about
16:08and I will never stop talking about.
16:10There are other things where I just,
16:12it's like in meditation where they say,
16:14just let the cloud pass.
16:16You know, like I see so many people
16:19are upset about him building a ballroom.
16:21I could give a fuck.
16:23I don't give a shit about his fucking ball.
16:24Well, I'd give a fuck because we're paying for it,
16:26whether you voted for him or not.
16:27No, we're not.
16:27No, we're not paying for it.
16:28It's private.
16:29First of all, even if we did,
16:31you could not...
16:31Well, it's already bulldozed,
16:32so any time you spend burning up about it,
16:35it's already happened.
16:36You have to decide what are you going to do
16:38in response to it.
16:39And it's like not the thing
16:40I want to concentrate on.
16:42Okay, that's the point.
16:42There are so many bigger things...
16:44That's the point.
16:45...that are consequential
16:47that I don't like him doing.
16:49And they tried to gin everybody up about,
16:52well, they're knocking down the White House.
16:54They've changed the White House before.
16:56And the White House does actually need a ballroom.
16:59You know, we're a big country.
17:01We were having state dinners
17:02and people were, like, under a tent.
17:05I've had better parties than that.
17:09So I am not, you know...
17:12But I still do think
17:14you have to choose your battles.
17:15You have to pick what you get.
17:16Yes, so if this were the dining room table
17:18and you're saying something
17:19that pisses me off, right?
17:21Right.
17:21And I'm not suggesting
17:22that that pisses me off,
17:23but you're at a dining room table
17:24with your family.
17:26You get to choose
17:27how much energy
17:29that opinion takes up up here.
17:32You get to choose
17:33whether or not you allow it
17:34to burn you up inside.
17:35You get to choose
17:36whether or not you're going to engage.
17:38And so what I love
17:40about Let Them and Let Me
17:41is all day long
17:42you have this slice and dice
17:43that you can do
17:44where you force yourself
17:46and allow yourself
17:47to recognize
17:48what's in your control
17:48and what's not.
17:49And when it comes to opinions
17:51and families,
17:51I agree with you.
17:53The thing that's separating us
17:55is our inability
17:57to sit with each other
17:59and allow each other
18:00the dignity of their own experience
18:03and opinion,
18:04even if it offends us.
18:07Instead of leaning away,
18:08we have to learn
18:09how to sit with our upsetness
18:11and lean toward each other
18:13and go,
18:13well, why might you believe that?
18:15Right, exactly.
18:16Help me understand that.
18:18So I think I have
18:20a self-help book in me.
18:21I'm never going to write it.
18:24But I was reading about Gen Z
18:27and I don't blame them.
18:29They are full of anxiety.
18:31And this article was,
18:32well, AI,
18:33they think it's going to take all their jobs.
18:36The robots might kill us all.
18:39You know, Trump,
18:41there's going to be no jobs left,
18:43nuclear stuff,
18:45climate change.
18:46Like, my book would be called
18:48It's Not Going to Be That.
18:50Because...
18:50Then what's it going to be?
18:52At 70, what I've learned in life
18:54is whatever you think the future is,
18:57it could be shitty.
18:58It's not going to be what you think it is.
19:00So stop with the anxiety
19:01and just live your life.
19:04Because it's not going to be
19:06to be that.
19:07Well, here's what I believe.
19:08That's life's trick on you always.
19:10Well, here's what I believe.
19:11I believe that we don't know
19:13what it's going to be.
19:14We don't.
19:14And if you're going to bother going,
19:15what if, what if, what if,
19:16you might as well also go,
19:17well, what if it all works out?
19:18Yes.
19:19What if I'm more capable than I know?
19:21Right.
19:21Exactly.
19:22Anyway, again,
19:23I know you want,
19:24everybody wants you
19:25and you came here.
19:26It means so much to me.
19:27It's perfect for our Thanksgiving show.
19:29I hope you do it again.
19:31Congratulations on the biggest book ever.
19:33Mel Robbins.
19:35Cool.
19:35Great to meet you.
19:37I hope I get to smoke with you.
19:37I feel like the Zamboni
19:38that came in the Kino factory.
19:41Your routine.
19:42I appreciate that.
19:44All right.
19:44Let's meet our panel.
19:48Okay.
19:50Oh, my.
19:51Here they are.
19:52All right.
19:53He is an entrepreneur
19:53and Grammy-winning,
19:54I'll say, musician,
19:56best known as one half
19:57of Run the Jewels
19:58and host of the
19:59Conversate with Killer Mike podcast.
20:01Killer Mike is over here.
20:05And she is an ABC News contributor,
20:08veteran political strategist,
20:10and former chair of the DNC.
20:12My girlfriend,
20:12Donna Brazile,
20:13is over here.
20:16How are you?
20:19Hey, Bill.
20:20Okay.
20:20Here we go.
20:22I love it, baby.
20:23And the first time
20:23you really acknowledge
20:24our relationship.
20:27I mean, it's, you know.
20:30I couldn't hold it anymore.
20:31I mean, that self-help session
20:32really allowed you
20:33to have a breakthrough.
20:36I, uh.
20:39And if I'm invited over,
20:42I'll bake and roast your turkey.
20:53Okay.
20:53And you know what they say
20:55once you go black?
21:00Honey, you'll never go back.
21:03I'll put some in your stuff
21:04and that will keep you lit up alive.
21:09I, I'm just,
21:10Mike.
21:11Okay.
21:12Tell them what happens
21:13when a black woman
21:14put her greasy hands in a bowl.
21:16And what comes out?
21:17When I took them to the blue flame,
21:19you were all they could talk about.
21:20Ooh.
21:21All right.
21:21Okay, look,
21:22I know I'm not really needed
21:24here tonight.
21:26You know,
21:27I do understand that,
21:28but just until next season
21:30when we'll have the new owners here,
21:32let them,
21:32whoever's gonna,
21:33whoever's gonna buy this network,
21:35let them think I have some place.
21:36Oh.
21:39Job.
21:41You know,
21:41we know all about job security.
21:44Yeah.
21:45We gonna help you, baby.
21:46But it is our,
21:47it is our finale for the year.
21:48We will be back January 23rd.
21:50Yeah.
21:50It's the one time
21:51I get to thank my staff.
21:52You know,
21:53we're a very no-to-the-grind-zone group here.
21:55Yeah.
21:56And we don't,
21:57I probably should do it myself better,
21:59but we somehow are easier to say
22:01we appreciate each other
22:02and I do appreciate them so much
22:04and what they do
22:05and how brilliant they are.
22:07Somehow it's easier to say it on the air
22:09than in private.
22:10But I want to ask you too,
22:12since we are looking now to 2026,
22:15we will not be on again until 2026.
22:17That is gonna be,
22:18I keep saying Democrats
22:19are going to win big.
22:21The party in power,
22:22they always do it.
22:23They get drunk with power.
22:25And then people,
22:26it creates this backlash.
22:28Certainly this administration has done that.
22:31So let's just go through
22:33who might be the front runner
22:34because we are going to,
22:36in 2026,
22:37pretty by then,
22:41I think,
22:42know who was gonna be
22:43the Democratic nominee.
22:44Who do you think
22:45the Democratic nominee
22:46should be for president
22:48and who do you want it to be?
22:50I'll let this young man go first.
22:54Get your ass in trouble.
22:55Yeah, yeah.
22:59Shake up the party.
23:01Come on.
23:01Shake it up.
23:02Shake it up, Mike.
23:04I'm gonna just bring
23:04an old Jewish guy back up,
23:06but he's never gonna run again.
23:07Shouts out to Bernie.
23:09If the Democrats
23:11were the party
23:11that truly say
23:12they aspire to be,
23:13Nina Turner would be
23:14the first black woman president.
23:16First woman president.
23:17She'd be the most progressive president
23:18that we've seen
23:19in the last 20, 25 years.
23:21I've lost a lot of my faith
23:23in what we say we want
23:24versus what we actually want.
23:25And I see the Democratic front runner
23:27probably being a white man,
23:29probably coming out of the Midwest.
23:30What's my guy in Illinois?
23:31J.B. Pritzer.
23:32J.B. Pritzer is probably gonna be,
23:33I think that America
23:34is leaning toward white maldom.
23:36I think that there's something...
23:37Why do we have to put it
23:38in terms of that?
23:38Because I'm black.
23:40And...
23:41And it all comes down to that,
23:45to be very honest with you.
23:46If you want to see...
23:47Yeah, now we're getting honest.
23:47If you want to see a litmus test
23:49for how this country is going to bend,
23:51look at any given moment
23:52how it's treating black
23:53or working class people.
23:54A lot of times,
23:55white working class people
23:55forget they're black too.
23:56Then they get a black moment.
23:57They're like, oh shit,
23:58we're all in the same boat together.
23:59What I mean by that is...
24:01When I was a kid,
24:03I thought that you couldn't put
24:05U.S. Army and ICE and shit
24:06in American neighborhoods,
24:08yet here we are.
24:09What's your fucking name, Santiago?
24:10It's my middle name.
24:11And I'm just like,
24:12I promise my mom
24:13just got off a wine bottle.
24:14I'm not from south of the border.
24:16But what...
24:17Okay.
24:18I think that this country...
24:19Sanders said
24:20at the end of his last campaign,
24:21we need to pay attention
24:22to the white working class.
24:23A lot of people in my community
24:24took that offensively
24:25as though he was ignoring us.
24:27And he wasn't.
24:27What he saw was
24:28the white working class
24:29was going to turn the tide.
24:30And they did.
24:30And they went to the wrong side.
24:32And that being realized now,
24:33I think that they're going
24:34to be looking for another white man.
24:35I think he's going to have
24:36to identify with some working class.
24:37So the Democrats just can't...
24:39We can't just pick the best person.
24:41We have to...
24:42Because I feel like
24:43when they get into this
24:44box-checking thing.
24:46Yeah.
24:46It just leads them astray.
24:47Because, like,
24:48Kamala was like,
24:49okay, we had to have
24:50someone of color.
24:52We had to have a woman.
24:53And then when she gets the job,
24:55then she has to
24:56go the other direction
24:57and pick as vice president
24:59a lame white guy.
25:00Weird.
25:01Super lame white guy.
25:02Yeah.
25:02Okay.
25:03So we're always balancing it out
25:05instead of just...
25:06As someone who's probably
25:08worked on more campaigns
25:09than I like to admit,
25:11we don't really pick
25:13our candidates that way.
25:15We don't go in
25:15and look in a crayon box
25:16and say,
25:17ooh, I can't wait
25:17to get that little one.
25:19No.
25:21We actually have
25:22a very rigorous exercise
25:24that involve
25:25taking candidates
25:27through the early states.
25:29And Trump made it through that?
25:30Trump can...
25:31Trump can make it
25:32through anything.
25:33Okay?
25:33We know that.
25:34But on the Democratic side,
25:35yeah, we're going to have
25:36a vigorous primary.
25:38It's an open season.
25:39And you know what happens
25:39in open seasons?
25:40We get a large number
25:43of people who are interested.
25:45So, of course,
25:46we're going to have
25:46about eight or nine governors,
25:47including Mr. Shapiro,
25:49possibly Mr. Moore,
25:51and maybe Mr. Newsom.
25:52We don't know.
25:53But there are many governors
25:54who are interested,
25:55Gretchen Whitmer,
25:56because I want to mention
25:56some of the women.
25:57Yes.
25:57Women are not going to sit back
25:58and wait to be called.
26:00We are going to continue
26:01to march forward.
26:02We might also look
26:03at members of Congress.
26:04AOC is interested.
26:06Maybe Ro Khanna
26:07is interested.
26:08We have United States Senators,
26:10some who've run before,
26:11like Klobuchar,
26:12like Booker,
26:13like Chris Murphy,
26:13who might also decide to run.
26:15It's going to be an open season.
26:17We will have plenty of time
26:18to really go through it.
26:20But I agree with you.
26:20One thing you said,
26:22it's going to be a great year
26:23for Democrats,
26:24because the American people
26:25are tired of...
26:26They're tired of the overreach.
26:31They're tired of the overreach,
26:32and they're going
26:33to look for alternatives.
26:34Not just any Democrats.
26:35And let me say one last thing.
26:36I'm going to get myself in trouble.
26:37Please help me out.
26:39We're going to have
26:40a generational shift
26:41in our country.
26:42Democrats have been,
26:43for years,
26:44we like the candidate
26:45with the most experience,
26:46most gray hair.
26:49Bullshit.
26:50We want somebody
26:52who is forward-looking,
26:53who's young and restless,
26:54searching for tomorrow,
26:55with one life to live,
26:56because the American people
26:57want something different.
26:58Did I put it all together
26:59for you, baby?
27:00And I'm open to dating
27:11a young man.
27:11I can date anybody now,
27:13okay?
27:14You know,
27:15bring it on.
27:19My pot is big enough.
27:22I'm not talking about
27:23that stuff you're going
27:24to do late.
27:24I'm talking about...
27:25Oh, I know.
27:29I know.
27:29I've never seen you
27:30blush this much.
27:31I...
27:31I...
27:32Are you going to smoke
27:34weed with us later
27:35and keep talking like that?
27:36Well, is it legal?
27:37No.
27:37Yes.
27:38No, but I still...
27:39I'm from Georgia.
27:40I'm still scared.
27:41What's up with them
27:42trying to ban marijuana now?
27:43Like, Trump,
27:44we thought more of you.
27:45Yeah.
27:45Like, what's...
27:46They going to get rid of it?
27:47Well, he talked about both.
27:48He's also said
27:49we're going to change it.
27:50It's not going to be
27:51a Schedule 1 anymore.
27:52Yeah, let's do that.
27:52I like that one.
27:53Well, this is, again,
27:55why it's good for people
27:56like me to talk to him.
27:58Yeah.
27:58I agree.
27:59I agree.
28:03And you have
28:03an open invitation, right?
28:05You have an open invitation
28:06to go back to the White House?
28:08No.
28:08Oh, you should?
28:10I mean,
28:11it depends on the week.
28:13I mean, you know,
28:13he still yells at me.
28:15Oh.
28:16Yeah.
28:16I mean, he doesn't...
28:17He yells at everybody.
28:18I know, but...
28:18But he's never called you piggy
28:20because I know
28:20he wouldn't call you piggy.
28:21Oh, he's called me...
28:22Are you kidding?
28:23I have a list of 56 insults
28:26that he has called me
28:28over the years.
28:28I brought it to the White House
28:29and he signed it.
28:30Yeah.
28:32I mean, it's an amazing document.
28:35But...
28:36I mean, that list of people...
28:40What do you think
28:41of somebody way outside the realm?
28:42Because I think...
28:43I mean, you say
28:44they want somebody younger.
28:45I think we're, like,
28:46post-politician era.
28:47Oh, I agree.
28:48I actually think Stephen A. Smith
28:49is kind of realistic.
28:52For president?
28:53Yeah.
28:53Well, he talks about it.
28:54Or people talk about it...
28:55You know, LeBron fans
28:56are going to vote for him.
28:57It's not going to be...
28:58He's got...
28:59He's...
28:59I love Stephen A.
29:00He'd run great as a Republican,
29:02I think.
29:02But I don't think
29:03he'd run well as a Democrat.
29:04Oh, I do.
29:04I do.
29:05I think he could...
29:05I think the Democrats
29:06need somebody
29:06who doesn't give a shit.
29:08And that's him.
29:09Who will say the thing...
29:10He...
29:11I like him.
29:12He talks can't shit.
29:13Yeah, he does.
29:14He's...
29:14And also, you know what?
29:16It is good to have
29:17a Democratic Party,
29:19a black person,
29:21because they could...
29:22Well, why you got to
29:22talk about nigger shit?
29:24What?
29:26What?
29:28I'll just...
29:28I'll just break him off.
29:30I'll just break him off.
29:32I'll tell you why.
29:34It's like...
29:34It's the way Obama
29:35was able to be a centrist.
29:37Yeah.
29:37It's able to be
29:38more of a centrist.
29:40A black guy.
29:41In the Democratic Party.
29:43Because Democrats are very...
29:45The white Democrats
29:45are very afraid
29:46of being called racist.
29:47That's why we wound up
29:48with open borders
29:49and stuff like that.
29:49Yeah.
29:50And they can...
29:51I mean, Stephen A. Smith
29:52can go,
29:52have you all lost
29:53your goddamn mind?
29:55Yeah.
29:55In a way that
29:56Pritzer cannot.
29:58Well, maybe...
30:00He would add to the sauce.
30:03I don't think he has
30:04all the necessary spices.
30:06I think you got to think
30:07outside the box at this point.
30:08I am thinking
30:08as far outside
30:09as I possibly can.
30:10And I like him.
30:11I like him,
30:11especially on ESPN
30:12when he talks sports.
30:13Just leave my damn
30:14New Orleans Saints alone.
30:15I know they're shitty,
30:16but that's nobody's business
30:18but our business.
30:21It's our business.
30:22He does bring in...
30:24And I wore this today
30:25just to show solidarity
30:26with the working class
30:27in this country.
30:27I think he resonates
30:28with the working class.
30:30And I think...
30:30I do think...
30:31And the reason I say it's Christopher,
30:32I think that Americans
30:33are going to want to lean
30:34into someone...
30:34He's willing to call Democrats
30:36on their shit, too.
30:38Charlemagne the God
30:38would make a great break.
30:39We need that.
30:40All right.
30:41So we always do this
30:43before we have a break.
30:44Okay.
30:45People rely on us
30:46to get the news.
30:47We're not going to be here
30:48for a couple of months.
30:49So we do the future headlines.
30:51We actually can tell you
30:52what the headlines
30:52are going to be
30:53while we're off.
30:54Would you like to see it?
30:56These are the future headlines
30:58that we will be seeing.
31:01For example,
31:03President Trump demands
31:04Nobel Peace Prize
31:05for ending war on Christmas.
31:09You will see that headline.
31:13Billionaires admit
31:14they were bullshitting
31:15about leaving New York.
31:16Yes, that is absolutely true.
31:19They're not going anywhere.
31:21Zoran Mandami's speaking fee
31:23quadruples embraces capitalism.
31:26Yes, I can see that.
31:28AI actress blows AI director
31:33on AI couch
31:34for role in AI movie.
31:42Trump demands South America
31:44change name to South North America.
31:52Ice agents raid nativity scene.
31:55Oh, no.
31:58Makers of Ozempic admit
32:05it's just speed.
32:14Tylenol unveils Tylenol light
32:16with 50% less autism.
32:18And Trump claims
32:25dog ate the Epstein files
32:27like a dog.
32:32All right.
32:33Oh, no.
32:34Those are great.
32:35Let me throw one more name
32:36out there that you didn't mention.
32:38Okay.
32:38And she was in the news
32:39this week.
32:39Michelle Obama.
32:40She has a book out,
32:42a coffee table book.
32:43Yeah.
32:44What?
32:45I like her.
32:45I mean, she said no, though.
32:47She said she said she didn't.
32:48Well, that's what I wanted.
32:49She said she didn't think
32:50the country was ready for her.
32:51Well, that's what we have
32:52to talk about.
32:53I mean, her statement,
32:54I was rather shocked by it.
32:55Yeah.
32:56She said,
32:56as we saw in the past election,
32:58sadly, we ain't ready.
33:00Okay, to me,
33:01this is logical fallacy 101.
33:03Just because we weren't ready
33:05or didn't like the candidates,
33:07Hillary and Kamala,
33:09doesn't, that's, you know,
33:11doesn't mean we're not ready
33:12for a woman.
33:12Maybe.
33:14That's why I'm like,
33:15don't even look at me
33:15about running
33:16because you are all lying.
33:18You're not ready for a woman.
33:19You are not.
33:20So don't waste my time.
33:22You know, we've got a lot
33:23of growing up to do.
33:24And there are still, sadly,
33:26a lot of men
33:26who do not feel like
33:27they can be led by a woman.
33:31I think it's a bad attitude.
33:33I do.
33:33I mean, we said
33:35we weren't ready
33:36for a black president
33:38and someone,
33:38I can't remember who,
33:39maybe she remembers,
33:40said maybe it just has
33:46to be the right one.
33:48So maybe we should stop
33:50talking about it
33:51and just do it, right?
33:52I vote for Dom.
33:53No, man.
33:53If you talk can't shit
33:54in the White House
33:55like you out here,
33:56I'd love to have you
33:57talking to foreign countries.
33:58Can I tell you something?
33:59I can't stay in the White House.
34:00Man, they got an iron gate.
34:01You know, I got to let loose.
34:02You got to let loose?
34:03I can't let loose.
34:05There's some things
34:06you can't hide.
34:07You know, I got to let loose.
34:10First of all, Bill,
34:11America is 250 years old.
34:13For 125 of those 250,
34:15women did not have
34:16the right to vote.
34:16Let's start there.
34:17So we had to,
34:18it's taken us longer
34:19to get to the starting line.
34:21I do believe that Hillary,
34:23what she did in 2016
34:25with 68 million votes,
34:26along with Kamala,
34:28what she did
34:29with 75 million votes.
34:30We are ready.
34:3280% of the American people
34:33say they are ready.
34:34In fact,
34:35over 84% of young people
34:38under 30
34:38say they are ready.
34:40So the idea
34:41that America's not ready
34:42is bullshit.
34:43They may not be ready
34:44for this one
34:45or that one,
34:46but let me zero in
34:51on that second half.
34:52A lot of men
34:53who do not feel like
34:55they can be led
34:56by a woman.
34:57Now let me,
34:58that's what she said.
34:59Okay.
34:59Okay.
35:00Trump won the Hispanic vote
35:02by one point
35:03this last time.
35:04Right.
35:04And yet,
35:05when Biden was the guy,
35:07there was a 34-point margin
35:10for him.
35:11Right.
35:12Okay.
35:13So,
35:14that's a big swing
35:15from voting for a man,
35:17Biden,
35:18for not voting
35:19for a woman,
35:19Kamala.
35:20And then,
35:21similarly,
35:22there was a 35-point difference
35:24in how black men
35:25voted in 2024
35:26versus the 2020 election
35:30with Biden.
35:31So,
35:32I think this is
35:33what she's saying,
35:34partly.
35:35Yeah, yeah.
35:35It's like,
35:36there are certain people,
35:38certain...
35:38How did white
35:39southern women vote?
35:40Black guys are kind of
35:41tired of being
35:41in this debate.
35:42We usually vote
35:43within points
35:44of black women.
35:45So,
35:45like,
35:45when that stat
35:46gets thrown out,
35:47we take the blame
35:48in our community.
35:49But white southern women
35:51are a very peculiar
35:52voting bloc.
35:53They'll talk
35:54the women's liberation thing,
35:55and then their daughters
35:56of Confederate soldiers
35:58will be the ones
35:59who get statutes
36:00erected in your town.
36:01So,
36:01I would look at
36:02the southeast in particular,
36:03and I would look
36:03at white working class women
36:05versus looking at
36:06the Hispanic vote
36:07overall
36:07and black male vote.
36:08I think that
36:09the white working class
36:10in this country
36:11is going to have
36:11to get comfortable
36:12with women leadership.
36:13And if you're looking
36:14at white male podcasts
36:15and blogs now,
36:16it is a shit show
36:17of shitting on women.
36:18They, you know,
36:19whether it's your tapes
36:20or your fresh and fit guys
36:22who are of the darker tone,
36:23but all of them
36:24are taking time
36:26to point and say
36:26women are not leaders.
36:27So there's a growing
36:28weird sentiment
36:29in this country
36:30that seems to be
36:31against women leadership,
36:32but I come out
36:32of the community
36:33where everything
36:34is pretty much
36:34matriarchal anyway.
36:35So I trust
36:36a woman to lead.
36:37The question is,
36:37can you convince
36:38white working class
36:38people to do the same?
36:39To your point,
36:41in the last election
36:42on November 4th,
36:44women won gubernatorial.
36:46We now have
36:4714 female governors,
36:48which is the largest ever.
36:50So the American people
36:51are showing
36:52that they are going
36:53to support women candidates.
36:56And by the way,
36:57the first lady said this
36:58the day after the election
37:00when you saw a woman
37:01become the mayor of Detroit.
37:03Motown got some kick.
37:04Now, Syracuse, Albany,
37:07women were winning
37:08all over the country.
37:10So I think
37:10the future is women.
37:11We need to encourage
37:12more women to run.
37:13We need to get more women
37:14in the pipeline.
37:15And like Mexico,
37:16Sri Lanka, Namibia, Japan,
37:19we're going to see
37:19a female president.
37:20And guess what, Bill?
37:21I'm going to make sure
37:22you get invited
37:23to the inauguration.
37:25I'm sure you will.
37:27Okay.
37:28You can be my date
37:31because I'm going
37:32to tell you something.
37:32I know the date
37:33you will bring can't last
37:35as long as I do.
37:41I'll pour some.
37:42Let me stop
37:43because I don't want
37:44to bring you home right now.
37:45I got my dog at the hotel.
37:46I don't know if I want to.
37:50Zora's particular.
37:51Do you think that would be
37:52the deal breaker?
37:53Oh, hell yeah.
37:55Okay.
37:56So let me ask you
37:57about education.
37:58It's going to be
37:58a big issue.
38:00Linda McMahon
38:00is the second
38:01Department of Education
38:02Secretary.
38:04She was talking
38:04this week about,
38:05now we know
38:06the Republicans
38:07have wanted to shut it
38:08down since 1979.
38:10Correct.
38:11When it was founded.
38:12So it's not been
38:13there forever.
38:14Not long.
38:14Okay.
38:16She said,
38:17it's mostly a pass-through
38:18for funds that are
38:19best managed
38:20by the states.
38:21This stuff does not
38:22sound too unreasonable
38:23to me.
38:23She says,
38:24it would not mean
38:25ending federal support
38:27for education,
38:28funding for low-income
38:30students,
38:30students with disabilities.
38:32That predates
38:33the education department
38:34and that would continue
38:35as would protecting
38:37students' civil rights.
38:39New York Magazine
38:40had an article
38:41that came out today.
38:42It's called
38:43The Big Fail.
38:45Here's the quote
38:46that they had
38:47on the cover.
38:47Student achievement
38:48has fallen off a cliff
38:50and neither Trump
38:51nor the pandemic
38:52is to blame.
38:54Why do we need
38:55the Department of Education
38:56if it has done
38:57such a shitty job?
38:59Kids don't come
39:01out of school.
39:02First of all,
39:02they can't read
39:03or do math anymore
39:04and they don't know
39:06anything.
39:07I mean,
39:07if we went to
39:08the Blue Flame
39:08tonight...
39:10We...
39:10Let's.
39:13All those girls
39:14working their way
39:15through college,
39:15they deserve some
39:16money for an education.
39:17Okay.
39:20But don't ask
39:21them about
39:22the three branches
39:23together.
39:25But, I mean,
39:25I really do feel
39:26like the Democratic Party,
39:28this has been
39:28their portfolio
39:29for a long time,
39:30education.
39:31Right.
39:31Okay.
39:32So they...
39:32I feel like they...
39:33If they're going
39:34to get back into office,
39:35they have to own
39:35this issue a little
39:36because a lot
39:37of the states
39:38that are doing
39:38better now
39:39are like the
39:39southern states.
39:41Really?
39:41Which one?
39:42Mississippi.
39:43Mississippi's
39:43getting better
39:43than Louisiana?
39:44See, you're in a bubble.
39:46I'm in a bubble.
39:47You didn't get that story.
39:48Well, I'm glad.
39:48I'm glad Mississippi's
39:49doing better
39:50and I hope Alabama.
39:50But, look,
39:51I don't believe
39:52that this is a Democrat
39:53or a Republican problem.
39:54This is a whole
39:54of society.
39:55Okay?
39:56I mean,
39:56we have put a lot
39:57of weight
39:58and a lot of pressure
39:58on our teachers
39:59to do the job
40:00that our parents
40:01and our community
40:01should also be doing.
40:03I am a proud graduate
40:04of America's
40:05public schools.
40:05I am grateful
40:06for the support.
40:07It's the great equalizer.
40:09Have they fallen short
40:10in some areas?
40:11Yes.
40:11But to dismantle
40:12a huge federal department
40:13and to create
40:15all this confusion
40:15that the labor department
40:16is going to do this,
40:17interior is going to
40:18take over indigenous this,
40:20we still don't know
40:21what is the next step
40:23with dismantling education.
40:25All I know
40:26is that we've made
40:27a lot of improvements,
40:28but we have a long way
40:29to go before we have
40:30a society where everybody
40:32get a head start
40:33and an equal start
40:33in life.
40:34What an improvement.
40:39Well, we've got to fund them
40:40and we've got to give
40:41teachers the money
40:42they deserve.
40:43We need to stop
40:43start-changing teachers.
40:44I agree.
40:45I like Donovan
40:46a product of public
40:47school education
40:48and uniquely in Atlanta,
40:49I'm from a city
40:51that's majority black.
40:52Majority of the schools
40:53are named for
40:54and inspired by
40:55black revolutionaries,
40:57black educators.
40:58I went to
40:59Frederick Douglass High School.
41:00Our rival high school
41:01was Benjamin E. Mays High School.
41:02Benjamin E. Mays
41:03was president of
41:04Morehouse College,
41:05of course,
41:05the famous college
41:06Dr. King went to.
41:07These schools
41:08had a great rivalry
41:09because you had
41:10working-class kids
41:11at school
41:11with working-class kids,
41:13poor kids,
41:13and rich kids.
41:14All these kids are black,
41:15but they have to sharpen
41:16their skills against one another.
41:17It was a spirit of competition.
41:19Before 79
41:20and before education
41:21went strictly to test-taking
41:22and reading,
41:23writing,
41:23arithmetic,
41:24they also had trades
41:25in their school.
41:26At the time Dr. King
41:27went to Booker T.
41:27Washington High School,
41:28he not only had to learn
41:29reading, writing,
41:30arithmetic,
41:30he had to learn
41:31how to upholster a chair
41:32or how to build
41:33something with a hammer.
41:34Our educational system
41:35needs to look back
41:36into when we were successful.
41:37And prior to 79,
41:39you had everything
41:40from archery in schools
41:41to track,
41:42physical fitness was there,
41:43you had art and music,
41:44which Reagan
41:44sashed out in the 80s.
41:46So both sides are done,
41:47but you have to look
41:48at Democrats,
41:48I think,
41:49on a local level
41:49and say,
41:50we need to do
41:51a better job.
41:51And that starts
41:52by saying,
41:52we fucked up.
41:53We fucked up
41:54by becoming test-taking centers.
41:56Well,
41:56no child left behind,
41:57left a lot of kids behind.
41:58School Choice pulled
41:59the best premium kids
42:01out of public schools
42:02and left them alone together.
42:05And then you got
42:05a bunch of kids
42:06who were aspirationally
42:07wanted to be better,
42:08but they didn't have
42:08a kid next to them
42:09saying,
42:09you can do it,
42:10who already understood calculus.
42:11So we failed our kids.
42:13And as adults,
42:14we need to say,
42:14pay teachers more,
42:16give teachers
42:16the lowest home loans
42:17you can possible
42:18to live in their districts,
42:19teachers,
42:20policemen,
42:20and firemen,
42:20I believe,
42:21because these are
42:21some strong
42:22civil-surgent cornerstones.
42:24Our principals need
42:25to stay there
42:25for longer ten years.
42:26When Frederick Douglass High School
42:28only had two principals
42:29and had been in existence
42:30for 40 years,
42:31they were a national
42:31school of excellence
42:32putting out kids
42:33doing anything
42:33from athletics to academics.
42:34The minute they went
42:35to seven principals
42:36within 11 years,
42:37they started to fall.
42:39So we are failing
42:39public schools
42:40in this country,
42:41both parties.
42:42We need to recommit
42:43on a very local level.
42:45We need to stop
42:45being test-taking centers.
42:47We need to re-enter
42:48trades back into the schools
42:49and prepare our children
42:50for real life,
42:51including financial literacy,
42:52as young as fifth,
42:53sixth grade,
42:54versus what we're doing now.
42:55All right.
42:56That's it.
42:58Sounds like he's running.
43:02And I support that.
43:04I mean,
43:04we need an apprenticeship program.
43:06I was talking to my brother
43:07and he said,
43:08I'm going to tell my son
43:08if he can't, you know,
43:09finish up the math,
43:11go and get a trade.
43:12So we need to know
43:13all of the above.
43:13My son is currently
43:13in trade school.
43:14Shouts out to Pony Boy.
43:16You're saying
43:16we shouldn't test?
43:18Is that what you said in there?
43:19No, we...
43:19Testing should not be the fact...
43:21There was a...
43:21There was a...
43:22They stopped testing
43:23and it got worse.
43:24No, no, no.
43:24Testing has become
43:26the only thing
43:27that teachers worry about
43:28because it determines
43:29how much money comes in.
43:31So the administration
43:32is pressing them.
43:33There was a huge...
43:33Colleges don't...
43:35Some colleges now,
43:36a lot of the Ivies
43:36have gone back to testing,
43:38but before they did.
43:39Yeah, they ain't told
43:39that to black kids yet.
43:40My baby still had to
43:41take the ACT and the SAT.
43:42Okay.
43:43My accountant, though,
43:44God bless his soul,
43:45had this child deemed autistic
43:47and he didn't have to.
43:48So he was smarter than me.
43:49I wish I would have
43:50known that earlier.
43:50I would have just told my child,
43:51just say you're crazy
43:52like your auntie
43:53and we'll get in.
43:54But shouts out
43:55to my baby
43:56at Hampton University.
43:57But what I'm saying
43:58is that no child left behind
43:59and the focus
44:00on are we meeting test marks
44:01did away with education.
44:03True education
44:04is when a teacher
44:05has a classroom of children
44:07and they're determined
44:07to find the talents
44:08of those children
44:09after meeting our base writing,
44:11reading and arithmetic things
44:12and saying what talent
44:13will send you
44:14to the next level.
44:15And we are not doing
44:16that anymore in this country.
44:17Okay.
44:17Well, we're going to do it here
44:18starting again next year.
44:21But right now,
44:22it's time for New Rules,
44:23everybody.
44:24The final New Rules
44:25of the year.
44:29Okay.
44:32New Rule the next time,
44:33the Russian tech company
44:34Idol tries to showcase
44:36their AI-powered humanoid robot.
44:38They have to try
44:39and make it look
44:40a little less like
44:41every drunk girl
44:41who's ever passed out
44:42at the club.
44:54This is not the way
44:55in the future.
44:56This is the way
44:56to make your Uber driver
44:57say no sorry
44:58and drive off.
44:59New Rule Pete Hegseth
45:06has to explain
45:07why all the names
45:08of his military operations
45:09sound like gay porn titles.
45:14Operation Rough Rider.
45:17Operation Midnight Hammer.
45:21Operation Southern Spear.
45:24Those don't sound like attack plans.
45:27They sound like the awkward
45:28pay-per-view chargers
45:29on Lindsey Graham's hotel bill.
45:30Neural, instead of coming up
45:42with endless new flavors
45:43for Doritos,
45:44think about this.
45:45Take the existing flavor
45:47of Dorito
45:47and make every Dorito
45:48in the bag taste good.
45:55Unlike now
45:56when every eighth one
45:57has flavor
45:58and the others
45:58you just eat
45:59because they're already
45:59in your mouth.
46:02How hard can it be?
46:03It's paprika
46:04not changing
46:05the quotas at Harvard.
46:08Neural respect
46:09where respect is due.
46:11The kids
46:12wanted to come up
46:13with something
46:13that just
46:14fuck with adults
46:15for no reason
46:16and
46:16they knocked it
46:18out of the park
46:18with their stupid
46:19pointless
46:20meaningless
46:20catchphrase
46:216-7.
46:24Even getting
46:25dictionary.com
46:26to say
46:26it's impossible
46:27to define
46:28and
46:29we're all
46:31still trying
46:32to figure out
46:32exactly what it means.
46:33Hey,
46:34dictionary.com
46:35you're a dictionary
46:36telling us
46:37what words mean
46:38is the whole
46:38point of you existing.
46:45It's like
46:46if you turned on
46:47the GPS
46:47in your car
46:48and it said
46:49shit,
46:49we're lost.
46:50New Rule,
46:58you can't put
46:59a headline
46:59that reads
47:00Jelly Roll
47:00is unrecognizable
47:01after 200 pound
47:03weight loss
47:03right above
47:04a picture
47:04that makes me say
47:05hey look,
47:06it's Jelly Roll.
47:14He's still
47:14350,
47:15no one's mistaking him
47:16for Ariana Grande
47:17for Ariana Grande.
47:21Oh man.
47:23Oh man.
47:26Please,
47:27daddy's working.
47:35If you really
47:36want to fool me
47:37with a celebrity
47:37I won't recognize,
47:39show me Kanye's
47:39wife with clothes on.
47:40And finally,
47:49New Rule,
47:50Happy Thanksgiving.
47:52I can't believe
47:52that even that now
47:54is a political issue.
47:55It is a real shame
47:56what's happened
47:57to this holiday
47:58which used to be
47:59all about
48:00the good F's.
48:02Food,
48:03friends,
48:04family,
48:05football,
48:05fun.
48:06And now it's
48:07fuck you.
48:08you're not even
48:10invited because
48:11you voted
48:11for the wrong
48:12person.
48:13I'm so tired
48:14of liberals
48:15ghosting half
48:16this country.
48:17Conservatives
48:17do it too
48:18but not nearly
48:19as much.
48:20Look,
48:21whoever's doing
48:21it,
48:21it's got to
48:22stop because
48:23we're at a
48:23point now
48:24where politics
48:25has broken up
48:26more families
48:27than letting
48:27your wife
48:27see your phone.
48:28Now on the
48:37liberal side
48:38there's two
48:39camps now.
48:39The we need
48:40to keep
48:40talking to
48:41people wing
48:42and the
48:42go no
48:43contact wing.
48:44That's what
48:44they call it
48:45now,
48:45go no
48:45contact.
48:46This belief
48:47that Trump
48:48voters,
48:48even if it's
48:49your own
48:49parents,
48:50are too
48:51deplorable
48:51for human
48:52contact
48:52and must
48:53be cut
48:53off.
48:54You know,
48:54like Scientologist
48:55dude who's
48:56suppressive
48:56people.
48:58A former
49:00speechwriter
49:01for Obama
49:02named David
49:02Litt wrote
49:03an op-ed
49:03this year
49:04called
49:04Is It Time
49:05to Stop
49:06Snubbing Your
49:07Right-Wing
49:07Family?
49:08Where he
49:09admitted he'd
49:09had a change
49:10of heart
49:10and that was
49:11the wrong
49:11approach.
49:12So of course
49:13then the woke
49:14wing tried
49:14to banish him
49:15for breaking
49:16ranks on their
49:17policy of hating
49:18people who don't
49:19agree with you
49:19on everything
49:20because what fun
49:21is life if
49:21you're not
49:22cutting somebody
49:22off?
49:28Mr. Litt
49:31asks the
49:32question,
49:33what has
49:33all this
49:34banishing
49:34accomplished?
49:35Oh, I
49:36know, I
49:36know.
49:37A second
49:38helping of
49:38MAGA, that's
49:39what.
49:41Molly
49:41McNerney,
49:42Jimmy Kimmel's
49:43wife and
49:44head writer,
49:44went public on
49:45this topic
49:46recently, so I
49:47feel it's fair to
49:48comment respectfully
49:49in public.
49:50She says she's
49:51lost relationships
49:52with relatives
49:53because she wrote
49:55them an email
49:56before the election
49:57with ten reasons
49:58why they
49:58shouldn't vote
49:59for Trump
49:59and some
50:01still didn't
50:02obey.
50:03So, you know.
50:07Ten reasons.
50:08I can think
50:09of a hundred.
50:11But I would
50:12never present it
50:13to someone as
50:14an ultimatum.
50:15Ultimatums don't
50:16make people rethink
50:17their politics,
50:18they make them
50:18rethink you.
50:19So.
50:27Somewhere along
50:29the way, my values
50:30became code for
50:31I'm the only one
50:32with a moral compass.
50:34You know what would
50:35have been a better
50:36exercise?
50:37Write a top ten list
50:38to yourself where
50:39you try to imagine
50:40ten reasons why
50:4277 million Americans
50:43didn't want to trust
50:44you with taking
50:46power.
50:46And I say that as
50:47someone who votes
50:48democratic.
50:49As I like to remind
50:50my very pure friends,
50:52we voted for the same
50:53person.
50:54You're just why she
50:54lost.
50:55Can we please
51:02try to remember
51:03especially at this
51:05time of year
51:05that most people
51:07don't decide
51:08their politics.
51:10They inherit them.
51:11It's about where
51:12you grew up in America,
51:13what your parents
51:14taught you,
51:15your life experiences,
51:16your religion.
51:18Marjorie Taylor Greene
51:19of Georgia
51:20was here recently
51:22and I was amazed
51:23by the number of people
51:24who reached out
51:25after the show
51:25to say,
51:26wow,
51:26I kind of like her.
51:28Yeah,
51:29that's been my line
51:30for a while.
51:31Everyone's a monster
51:32until you talk to them.
51:33On our overtime segment
51:35that night,
51:35someone asked about
51:36the alien spaceship,
51:38maybe you've been
51:39reading about it,
51:40the 3-1 Atlas comet
51:42that's headed to Earth
51:43and will arrive
51:44on December 19th
51:45to wipe out all life
51:47as we know it.
51:50It's a joke,
51:51don't mind.
51:52And when I quoted
51:53people in our own
51:54defense department
51:55who had said,
51:56well, hold on,
51:57what you think
51:57might be aliens
51:58actually could be
51:59fallen angels
52:01or demons,
52:02Marjorie agreed,
52:03saying,
52:04absolutely.
52:05She said,
52:05I'm a Christian conservative,
52:07angels and demons,
52:08that's what we believe.
52:10Okay,
52:10I think that's nuts.
52:15But you know what?
52:16So is,
52:17is this a girl or a boy?
52:19I can't tell by its penis.
52:29I'm not going to go through
52:31woke-ism's greatest hits now,
52:33but, you know,
52:34the safety-ism,
52:35the open borders,
52:36queers for Palestine,
52:38whatever this was.
52:43I mean,
52:44I could go on,
52:44really,
52:45there's a lot of stuff.
52:46The other side
52:47has their top ten list,
52:49too,
52:49and some of it's
52:49pretty hard to argue with.
52:51And I know,
52:52I know the president
52:53of the United States
52:54called a woman
52:55piggy this week,
52:56and you're a better person
52:58than me
52:58because you hate it
52:59more than I do.
53:00But I hate it, too,
53:02really,
53:03as well as a thousand
53:04other things
53:04about the Trump administration
53:06I never stop pointing out.
53:08on this show.
53:09But I'm an adult,
53:10and in the real world,
53:11there's some people
53:12you just can't stop
53:13talking to,
53:14like your spouse
53:16or partner
53:17after a bad fight,
53:18tempting as that is.
53:20LAUGHTER
53:21APPLAUSE
53:22APPLAUSE
53:23APPLAUSE
53:25APPLAUSE
53:25Like your dick of a boss,
53:31like your family,
53:33and like the president
53:35president of the United States.
53:36This is so childish,
53:38so purely emotional.
53:39The people who got all
53:40butthurt because I had
53:42dinner with them.
53:42LAUGHTER
53:43You know,
53:44because he's Hitler.
53:45LAUGHTER
53:45Except he's not.
53:48So unhelpful and dumb.
53:50Trump is the most
53:51supportive president
53:52Israel and the Jews
53:53ever had.
53:54You know,
53:55every year,
53:56I used to ask Larry David
53:57to do real-time,
53:58and he'd always say,
53:59Bill, I can't.
54:01I'm not smart enough
54:02about politics
54:02to do your show.
54:05Yeah, I get that now.
54:07APPLAUSE
54:07APPLAUSE
54:08Because there is
54:14no argument here.
54:16There's just the sugar rush
54:17that the no-contact people get
54:19from never coming in second
54:21in a I-hate-Trump-the-most contest.
54:25Really?
54:25That's your strategy?
54:27To go full high school?
54:28And tell the guy
54:30with all the power
54:30he can't sit with you
54:32at the lunch table?
54:33To borrow a phrase
54:34familiar to HBO viewers,
54:36you are not serious people.
54:39LAUGHTER
54:40APPLAUSE
54:41I mean,
54:46what exactly is the argument
54:48that by talking to Trump,
54:50I'll elevate him?
54:52Oh, my God,
54:52don't tell me
54:53he could become president.
54:54LAUGHTER
54:54Well, I guess, ma'am,
54:57Donnie,
54:58is going to elevate Trump
54:59because he went
55:00to the White House today
55:01and look who's getting along now.
55:04APPLAUSE
55:04This guy, MBS,
55:11was at the White House this week.
55:13Biden thought he could cut him off,
55:15but a year later,
55:17he found out he couldn't.
55:19There's no perfect way
55:20to deal with Trump,
55:22but not engaging
55:23is for sure nothing.
55:24Axios wrote a column in August
55:27entitled
55:27Eleven Ways to Influence Trump,
55:30based on many interviews
55:31with people
55:32who have done that.
55:34Number eight,
55:35get face-to-face.
55:36The trick is getting in the room,
55:38away from cameras
55:39and social media.
55:40Trump will say or write
55:42horrible things,
55:42but rarely in person,
55:44one-on-one,
55:45where he comes off kinder,
55:46more interested,
55:47less erratic.
55:49Exactly.
55:50And there's a bunch
55:51of examples of this.
55:52Most recently,
55:53the CEO of Intel,
55:55who Trump was hating on,
55:56but then he met in person
55:57and now he's a great guy.
56:00Trump was going to send
56:01the National Guard
56:02to San Francisco,
56:03but somebody talked him
56:04out of that.
56:05Kim Kardashian,
56:06for fuck's sake,
56:07convinced him
56:07to sign legislation.
56:09Don't you get it?
56:13Do you really not get it
56:15at this point?
56:15Everything with him
56:16is done through
56:17personal relationships.
56:18He's a people guy.
56:21Trust me,
56:21he's not at home at night
56:23pouring over
56:23the briefing books.
56:27This is government
56:28by people is saying.
56:31If anything,
56:32we need more people like me
56:34having dinner with him.
56:35You complain he's surrounded
56:37by ass kissers,
56:38but your strategy
56:39is to make sure
56:40no one but ass kissers
56:41are around him?
56:43You are not serious people.
56:48Rachel Maddow went to
56:55Dick Cheney's funeral yesterday.
56:57We can do this, people.
56:59It's Thanksgiving.
57:01Do yourself a favor,
57:02get over yourself,
57:03and go have it
57:04with your family.
57:05Thank you very much
57:07for a great season.
57:08You are the best audience
57:09every week these days.
57:10I appreciate it so much.
57:12Thank you, HBO,
57:14my wonderful staff.
57:15We're back after the holidays
57:16on January 23rd.
57:18I want to thank Killer Mike,
57:19Donna Merzell,
57:20and Mel Robbins.
57:21Club Random drops
57:22every Monday
57:23while we're off
57:24on YouTube
57:25or listen wherever
57:25you get your podcasts.
57:27Now go watch
57:27Overtime on YouTube.
57:28Thank you, people.
57:29Oh, wow.
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