Ukraine, European Allies Reject Key Parts of US-Russia Plan

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00:00What's going on and why is this so difficult to get across the line?

00:04Yeah, Jonathan, I mean, this is the 28-point plan that really arrived kind of like a bombshell

00:09here in Brussels over the last sort of 24 hours when we actually got all of the 28 points

00:13spelled out by the Trump administration. The starting line, the beginning point of the

00:17negotiation between Ukraine and Russia has landed very, very poorly indeed for the Ukrainians and

00:22for Brussels. And as a consequence of that, now European leaders are reacting to it.

00:26We've just had a meeting between the UK, France, Germany and Ukraine, and they have rejected.

00:31And rejected is a sort of strong term. We should say they've rejected parts of it,

00:34but that's really, they've gone very diplomatically with this, saying that they really agree with the

00:38United States in their diplomatic efforts. They would like to see this advance further,

00:42but they want certain things to be sort of red lines. And one of those things is that the line

00:46of contact to serve as the starting point for any understanding that the Ukrainian armed forces

00:51remain capable of effectively defending Ukraine's sovereignty. That is a quote from the Germans

00:56after that call from those four leaders. And they are reacting to points 21 and point 6 of the

01:01Trump plan, the first of which would basically now donate the rest of the Donbass region that is

01:06not fully controlled by Russia to Russia in this agreement as it is envisioned by the Trump

01:11administration. And of course, the second point there, point 6, is that the Ukrainian military

01:15would be capped at 600,000 personnel, which is a meaningful reduction in the number of forces that

01:20the Ukrainians have right now. And that is sort of the Ukrainian side of this conversation.

01:25But Jonathan, I think where European leaders are going to react in a much more sort of aggressive

01:29way and a much more startled way is there's a lot of these things within these points, within

01:34points 3, 7, 8, that put restrictions not just on the future of Ukraine, but what the NATO

01:39organization is allowed to do, whether or not NATO is allowed to deploy troops within Ukraine in the

01:44future, whether or not NATO is able to consider adding Ukraine to its numbers in the future. And in

01:50fact, one of the points here on point 3 is that says that NATO will not expand any further. And

01:54from the European perspective, and Jonathan, we've talked about this since the very beginning of the

01:58Trump administration and their negotiations on Ukraine, the Europeans are not at the table when

02:03it comes to ending this war in Ukraine. And increasingly, they do not seem to be at the table

02:07in creating the future architecture for security in Europe beyond Ukraine.

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