Skip to playerSkip to main content
NovaStream
  • 7 hours ago
Transcript
00:00From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central,
00:07it's America's only source for news.
00:10This is The Daily Show with your host, Ronnie T.
00:30Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Ronnie Chang.
00:33We got so much to talk about tonight.
00:35You can upload your grandma to the cloud now.
00:37Someone paid for expedited shipping on the Epstein files.
00:40And Trump and MBS do hand stuff.
00:43So, let's get into the headlines.
00:50Yesterday was a big day at the White House
00:52because Donald Trump got to have a play date
00:54with Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,
00:57an all-around great guy who definitely doesn't hold a grudge,
01:00and Ronald Reagan have no problems with.
01:04And the two of them couldn't keep Trump's hand off each other.
01:07We've worked with all presidents.
01:09Does Trump blow them all the way?
01:10No, you...
01:11It's out of the league, Mr. President.
01:13Thank you, Mr. President.
01:16And Trump doesn't give a fist pump.
01:19I grab that hand.
01:20I don't give a hell where that hand's been.
01:22I grab that hand.
01:27What the hell was that?
01:29That was the worst handshake I've ever seen.
01:32That was like the 9-11 of handshakes.
01:34And...
01:36Once again, Saudi Arabia is involved?
01:38Okay.
01:39Uh...
01:40And Trump, why are you wondering where his hand has been?
01:42You're the one whose hand is decomposing.
01:44I mean...
01:46Now, you might be wondering, wait,
01:48how is Donald Trump best friends with MBS?
01:51Isn't Trump the Muslim ban guy?
01:53Didn't he just spend a month calling Zora Mandani a terrorist?
01:57Well, the difference is that Zora Mandani is a Shia Muslim
02:01whose family comes from Uganda by way of India,
02:03whereas MBS is giving Trump money.
02:07The Trump Organization already has multiple projects in Saudi Arabia,
02:10including Trump Towers in Jeddah and Riyadh,
02:13and a Trump Plaza in the works.
02:15In the last year alone,
02:16the Trump Organization's Saudi partner
02:18pumping more than $20 million into the family business.
02:22Wow.
02:23Three Trump Towers in Saudi Arabia?
02:25See?
02:26America can up your skyline, too.
02:28But enough about collusion between global elites.
02:32Let's move on to the Epstein files.
02:34Yeah!
02:37Where my ep heads at?
02:41Just me.
02:43Uh...
02:44Yesterday, a House of Representatives voted to release the files
02:47thanks to brave Republicans like Nancy Mace,
02:49who was very clear about not being a part of the Epstein network.
02:54The Epstein email suggests that, in fact,
02:56there is a widespread code among people with power and money
02:59who support one another.
03:01Does that exist in Washington?
03:04I...
03:05Oh, I'm not part of the powerful.
03:07I'm not part of the elite.
03:08I'm an island of one.
03:09I don't get invited to parties.
03:11I don't have any friends.
03:12I have a dog.
03:17Wait, are you...
03:18Are you fishing for an invite to the sex party?
03:21Like, why did you make not being a part of a pedophile ring
03:25sound so sad?
03:26Like...
03:28There's a middle ground between Epstein Island
03:31and Friendless Loser.
03:32Like...
03:34Walk the middle path.
03:35Um...
03:36I mean, she doesn't go to parties.
03:38She doesn't have friends.
03:39She does have a dog.
03:41But after a day with her, even the dog's like,
03:43where's Christine Noam when you need her?
03:46But thanks to these Republicans,
03:50the House voted to release the Epstein files.
03:53And I just cannot believe this is gonna happen.
03:56Trump has been trying to stop us from seeing these files
03:59for months now.
04:00I mean, they must have some plan to drag this thing out.
04:03House Speaker Mike Johnson says he expects the Senate
04:06to amend the bill, which would then send it back to the House.
04:09Of course.
04:11That's the plan.
04:13Yeah, it's obvious.
04:14They're gonna let it pass the House
04:16because they know it will go to the Senate,
04:18a.k.a. where the legislation and senators go to die.
04:21Breaking tonight in Washington, D.C.,
04:23the Senate has unanimously agreed to pass the bill
04:26to release the Epstein files.
04:28Wait, what?
04:29Wait, wait, wait. Hang on, hang on.
04:32Wait, how...
04:34How the did it pass this fast?
04:36I thought a bill in the Senate had to go through amendments
04:39and committees and floor votes
04:41and Mitch McConnell's neck folds.
04:43And they have to add some unrelated earmarks
04:46that somehow make Lindsey Graham millions of dollars.
04:48Like, how'd they get around all that?
04:51Senate Democrats pressured their Republican counterparts
04:54to pass the Epstein files Transparency Act
04:57by something that's called unanimous consent,
05:00meaning the Senate accepts the House version
05:02of the bill as written.
05:04Wait, you can do that?
05:07Unanimous consent?
05:09Well, then, why don't you do that with every bill?
05:11I mean, does it only work on bills with Epstein's name?
05:14In that case, we might need to pass
05:16the Jeffrey Epstein Universal Healthcare Epstein Act
05:19featuring Jeffrey Epstein.
05:27No, don't...
05:32Why are you cheering Jeffrey Epstein?
05:35But back to this bill.
05:36There's no way they're gonna let this pass, okay?
05:39Yeah, it got through the House and Senate,
05:41but I'm sure Donald Trump will veto this bill
05:44as soon as it reaches his desk.
05:46President Donald Trump says he's ready to sign the bill
05:48as soon as it reaches his desk.
05:51Wait, my God, what the hell is happening here?
05:54Is Trump really gonna release the Epstein files?
05:56He's not gonna burn them or hide them
05:58or put them on Barron's head
05:59so no one can reach them?
06:01I-I can't believe this.
06:04Look, there's just no way that this man
06:06is gonna release the Epstein files that he is in.
06:09I mean, he must have a plan to get out of this.
06:11We should note the legislation as it stands clearly says, quote,
06:16the Attorney General may withhold or redact
06:19personally identifiable information of victims
06:22or victims' personal and medical files
06:25and any material that would jeopardize an active investigation
06:29or national security.
06:30Yeah, there we go.
06:32See?
06:33That's how they're gonna keep these files secret.
06:35National security.
06:37America's go-to justification.
06:39It stops us from bringing shampoo on a plane.
06:41It puts terrorists on bananas.
06:43And soon, it can prevent you from seeing
06:45if the president is a pedophile.
06:47And by the time Pam Bondi is done with these files,
06:50they'll be more censored
06:51than the airplane version of a Nora.
06:53Now, I'm-I'm not saying
06:56we'll never see the Epstein files.
06:58I'm not saying we will.
07:00All I'm saying is we need to find other clues
07:03that the president inappropriately touches people.
07:06All right?
07:07All right?
07:08Now, for more on the release of the Epstein files,
07:10we go live to the DOJ with Jordan Klepper.
07:17Klepper.
07:19Klepper.
07:20How close are we to seeing these files?
07:23Well, Ronnie, it looks like these files
07:25might be released next week,
07:26but we're all praying our hardest
07:28that something happens to delay that outcome.
07:31What-what? What do you mean?
07:35Like, I want to know who the perverts are.
07:37Do you, Ronnie?
07:40You think you do.
07:41We all talk a big game about wanting to know
07:43who all the pervs are,
07:45but then you find out it's America's sweetheart,
07:48economist Larry Summers, and you're devastated.
07:52I mean, was he my favorite economist?
07:54No, but top three for sure.
07:56Dude, who gives a shit about Larry Summers?
07:59You're telling me you're not into Larry Summers?
08:02Not even his early stuff?
08:04I mean, his Clinton-era treasury meetings
08:06redefined the genre, man.
08:08But now I feel gross even looking
08:11at inflation numbers from the mid-'90s.
08:16Klepper, separate the art from the artists, okay?
08:18And no one gives a shit about Larry Summers.
08:20It-it's not just Larry Summers.
08:23Epstein had a lot of friends,
08:24and we haven't thought through
08:25how wide his network was.
08:27I mean, what if-what if Dolly Parton's in there?
08:30You want me and my wife
08:32to stop singing islands in the stream at karaoke?
08:35It's the only thing holding my marriage together!
08:37I mean, what if-what if one of your favorite people
08:40was on Epstein Island?
08:41Give me someone you love.
08:43Oh, I'm-I'm pretty dead inside, but, uh...
08:46If you force me to say something,
08:48I guess I do love the Muppets.
08:50Okay. All right.
08:51What if-what if Kermit the Frog
08:53is in the Epstein files?
08:55You think it's not easy being green?
08:57Try being publicly outed as a pedophile.
09:01Jordan, please don't ruin the Muppets for me.
09:03Let me tell you about having things ruined for you, Ronnie.
09:08Years ago, every Thanksgiving,
09:10I would sit down with my favorite
09:12Jared Fogle-approved turkey sandwich,
09:14crapped coconut, a big Jell-O pudding pop,
09:18and I'd watch Matt Lauer host the parade
09:21and wait for the big Kevin Spacey balloon.
09:24But...
09:25No! No!
09:27Now I gotta eat turkey with my family
09:30and watch Savannah Guthrie host the parade.
09:33Do you have any idea how that is, man?
09:35O-Okay. Okay.
09:37That sounds terrible. I agree.
09:39But these rich, famous people shouldn't be protected
09:42just because they happen to have fans.
09:44It's not just some people.
09:45This is every perv everywhere all at once.
09:50It's gonna destroy the country.
09:51The banks go under. The economy collapses.
09:54I have to go back to my job waiting tables at P.F. Chang's.
09:57I'm not doing that, Ronnie.
09:58I'm not spending every Saturday
10:00walking up to 14-year-olds talk rapping.
10:02I'm P.F. Chang, and I'm here to say
10:04I hope you have a Chang-tastic birthday!
10:06No!
10:07Okay.
10:08No!
10:09It's not gonna happen!
10:11It's not gonna happen!
10:12It's not gonna happen!
10:13Okay.
10:14Jordan, I...
10:15Look, I know there might be some short-term pain,
10:17but it will let us do the work
10:18of rebuilding a society from the ground up
10:20that doesn't put us under the rule of elite perverts.
10:24That sounds like a lot more work
10:25than just not releasing the files.
10:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:28Actually, you're right.
10:29I got tired just saying that.
10:30Yeah.
10:31Jordan Klepper, everybody.
10:32When we come back,
10:34we find the latest in tech,
10:35so don't go away.
10:39Welcome back to The Daily Show.
10:55Technology will one day kill us all.
10:58But until then, it's pretty cool.
11:00To find out more, we turn to Grace Coolensmith
11:03in our ongoing segment, Tech Yeah!
11:05What's up, my techno nerds?
11:21I'm Grace Coolensmith, a.k.a. Coolen Tech,
11:24a.k.a. Gracie Gizmos, a.k.a. Lil Wire Fraud.
11:28This is Tech Yeah!
11:31Where I tell CPU all about the biggest stories in tech.
11:35And to our future robot overlords watching,
11:38I say...
11:43I can say that because I slept with one robot.
11:48But let's hop into Warp Speed
11:50and fly over to Russia for the release of a robot
11:53that'll blow your tech in mind.
11:55Russia's first humanoid A.I. robot
11:59made its debut in Moscow this week,
12:01and it definitely did not go as planned.
12:09That's so techin' cool!
12:12Finally, a robot that feels like a real person.
12:15Because I also have a drinking problem.
12:18And it's not the robot's fault.
12:21He fell.
12:22He took 27 shots of machine oil.
12:25You should see me after three.
12:27I'm literally in the hospital bi-monthly
12:30because the human body cannot handle machine oil.
12:35I was in a coma for weeks.
12:39And for all the people worried about robots taking our jobs,
12:43relax!
12:45Because for every job this robot takes,
12:47they have to hire two guys to pick it up off the ground.
12:56Sometimes I get sad that I'll miss out on the robots
13:00taking over our planet.
13:02But good news.
13:03Here's something that'll keep us technophiles alive
13:06for techin' ever.
13:08A tech company offering an app that allows you
13:10to keep a grandparent or other loved one alive
13:13for generations.
13:14To create a digital granny,
13:16you record three minutes of video
13:18while they are still alive.
13:19The AI app copies their image,
13:22mannerisms, and voice.
13:23Hey, Charlie.
13:24How was school today?
13:25It was really fun.
13:26I made this crazy shot in basketball.
13:28I don't really care that much about basketball.
13:30Yes!
13:31This is awesome!
13:32She tells me to shut up about my interests just like a real grandma.
13:46I can't wait for my grandma to die so I can turn her soul into data.
13:51And yeah, maybe you're nervous to have grandma live on the same device you watch porn on.
13:57But next time you're struggling to pick a category,
14:00your grandma can chime in like,
14:02Grace, anime MILFs with big naturals
14:06are a family tradition.
14:09Carry it on!
14:11Love you, Gigi.
14:14But the most beautiful part of this technology is that it lets you say things to your dead relatives
14:26that you regret not saying while they were alive.
14:29Like, I'm sorry I unplugged your ventilator to charge my phone.
14:35And I'm sorry I kept charging my phone so I could post about you dying.
14:40And I'm sorry for deleting the post after it didn't get enough likes.
14:45I just wish this technology was around a few years ago
14:49so my grandpa could have attended my wedding.
14:52People said our love wouldn't last because she's a robot and I'm white.
14:58But love conquers all.
15:01And finally, all this new technology is so tech and beautiful
15:05it makes me want to sing.
15:07But luckily, A.I. can do it for me.
15:10He's a ruggedly handsome country singer with a strong voice destined for stardom.
15:15Ain't no shame in where I belong.
15:20Well, hold on to your cowboy hat.
15:22He's 100% all A.I. generated.
15:26His name is Breaking Rust and now his song, Walk My Walk,
15:30is number one on Billboard's Country Digital Song Sales Chart.
15:35I am shocked a guy named Breaking Rust isn't real.
15:41That makes him so much hotter.
15:44I've been throwing my panties at my computer just to get his attention.
15:47This is exactly what country music is all about.
15:52Dirt roads, blue jeans, and decimating the power grid of a small Midwestern town.
15:58Yee-haw!
16:00And I know you're probably wondering, can this technology write a song about anything?
16:05Yes.
16:06Just how easy is it to create a song completely generated by A.I. intelligence?
16:11What I'm gonna do is create a song about the TV show Inside Edition simply by typing in here,
16:17make a song about the TV show Inside Edition.
16:22This is literally the song I make love to.
16:39You wouldn't believe how horny I am right now.
16:43Now, I know some of you might be thinking, wow, I do not like the idea of A.I. replacing human creativity with digital slop.
16:51And that's a good point.
16:53But here's a counterpoint.
16:55Inside Edition, shining light.
17:02Well, that's all the time we have on Tech Yeah.
17:07See you next time, where I'll teach you how to turn any car into a driverless car by simply letting go of the steering wheel.
17:15Great school internet, everyone.
17:22When we come back, Chef Sean Sherman will be joining me on the show.
17:25Don't go away.
17:27Inside Edition, shining light.
17:32And the shadows we have.
17:45Welcome back to A Daily Show.
17:47My guest tonight is a James Beard award-winning chef whose new book is called Turtle Island,
17:53Foods and Traditions of the Indigenous Peoples of North America.
17:56Please welcome Chef Sean Sherman.
17:58Thank you. Thank you.
18:18Well, you're welcome, Chef. Thanks for coming.
18:20Absolutely. Thank you.
18:21My first time meeting you, but I ate at a restaurant years ago in Minneapolis.
18:26Right.
18:27And I remember walking in, and I passed by it, and it was a Native American restaurant serving Native American cuisine.
18:34And I remember going, I have never seen this before in America, which is really sad.
18:39Let me go in and eat it.
18:40And it was amazing.
18:41Right.
18:42What was the, what was the, why aren't there more Native American restaurants?
18:45That's a long story.
18:47You know, and we talk a lot about that.
18:49But, you know, it's unfortunate that Native American restaurants are so rare in Native America.
18:54And so a lot of this work was really trying to, you know, showcase that this was possible, that we could have a modern Indigenous restaurant.
19:01You know, and we have a lot of values.
19:03We try to purchase from Indigenous producers as much as we can.
19:06We change very seasonally.
19:08The restaurant's owned by a nonprofit, you know, so we hire a lot of Native workers with us.
19:13And we have an amazing staff.
19:14We move a lot of money towards those Indigenous producers.
19:17And we're just kind of showcasing because we never want to be stuck in the past.
19:20You know, we don't want to, we've been through all this erasure.
19:23We've been through all this misunderstanding.
19:25But there's so much beauty here.
19:27And, you know, there's, you know, the food really kind of speaks for itself.
19:30Absolutely.
19:31And what, and I mean, the thing that struck me was some of the hallmarks of your interpretation of Native American food.
19:36There's certain no's in the restaurant that you don't have.
19:39Yeah.
19:40Which I found interesting.
19:41Absolutely.
19:42Because basically the philosophy was in order to showcase and highlight modern Indigenous foods in, uh, in Native America,
19:48we cut out European colonial ingredients that European immigrants had brought over.
19:52So there's no dairy, no wheat flour, no cane sugar, no beef, pork, and chicken.
19:56No Jell-O.
19:57No Jell-O.
19:58No ranch dressing.
19:59No ranch dressing.
20:00We won a James Beard Award for best restaurant in the U.S. without ranch dressing.
20:03Yeah.
20:04Is that, well, it's good, it's good.
20:09You beat, you beat the white people at their own award.
20:11That's true, it's true.
20:13Um, yeah, but I mean, no ranch dressing in Minneapolis.
20:16Yeah.
20:17How do you get people in the door?
20:18Oh, well, they're, they're coming.
20:19We've been sold out every night since we opened in 21, so.
20:22Yeah, it's impossible to, yeah, it's impossible to get in.
20:25I had to, I had to pull strings to try to have lunch there.
20:28No, it's all good.
20:29But that's also kind of what's cool is that you give people kind of a rally point.
20:32Because I think there's a lot of people out there who probably want to support Native American things.
20:35Yeah.
20:36And there's no, there's no outlet to do it.
20:39And the restaurant, um, I should probably say Owami.
20:42Owamini, yeah.
20:43Owamini.
20:44Yeah.
20:45It's a great place where, it's a great rally point where it's like,
20:47oh, I, I want to support not just Native American culture and people.
20:51You know, I actually want to try what this is.
20:53And you can just go there and try it.
20:55Absolutely.
20:56I mean, it's very tangible and, you know, people can experience this philosophy.
20:59And we're pushing healthy food because like everything in the restaurant's gluten-free,
21:03dairy-free, sugar-free, soy-free, pork-free, you know.
21:05And it's just because of, that's just the philosophy of how we're cooking.
21:08And we're normalizing not only indigenous foods, but eating healthier, a lot more plant diversity,
21:12a lot more protein diversity, um, and just kind of showcasing what's possible.
21:16You know, and plus we're looking at all of North America from Mexico through Alaska,
21:19which kind of reflected in this book that we just put out.
21:21Yes.
21:22But like we, we see like this whole situation because these borders crossed us, you know.
21:26And it's silly that we're seeing like so much demonization of people because they're coming
21:30from south of the border and they're speaking Spanish.
21:32But English is also a foreign language in North America.
21:35Right.
21:36Yeah.
21:37Well, totally.
21:38I'm down.
21:39Um, yeah.
21:42Yeah.
21:43And I mean, just back, back on that idea of eating healthy, it feels like we, we kind
21:47of as, as a species humans, we kind of know more about nutrition than ever before, I think.
21:53And everyone, you know, is trying to eat healthier now and it feels like Native American food just
21:59fits perfectly into that mindset.
22:01Absolutely.
22:02I mean, there's so much plant diversity again.
22:03It's low carbs.
22:04It's just a lot of new minerals and nutrients.
22:06There's a lot of this protein diversity.
22:08Um, it's not over processed food by any means, you know, because these aren't the foods that
22:12I grew up with because I grew up on a reservation.
22:14So I'm from Pine Ridge Reservation, which is third largest reservation.
22:17It's in South Dakota, you know, and we have horrible statistics.
22:20You know, we have really high rates of type two diabetes, obesity, heart disease, our unemployment
22:25rates are like through the, through the roof, you know, that probably over 70% still today.
22:30And so there's a lot of issues out there.
22:32And that's what we're trying to address is because as indigenous peoples, we've been, you know,
22:36you know, not only lost a lot of our land spaces, but we were so much of our culture was stripped
22:41from us, which is a big reason why we don't see native restaurants everywhere, you know?
22:45Yeah.
22:46And so there's a lot of work and the power of food is really important because it's a
22:49huge voice that we all understand.
22:50We all eat.
22:51We all can understand food.
22:52It's a cultural force multiplier for you.
22:53Yeah.
22:54Yeah.
22:55And I just think that it's just gonna, it's something that pulls us together and it makes
22:57people curious and it, you know, helps, helps put a little empathy into things for
23:01people to think about why don't we have more native food out there?
23:04Why don't we have more native restaurants out there?
23:06And what can we do to make that happen?
23:08Yes.
23:09And so getting to, I guess this crowd doesn't support what you just said.
23:11But, um, but they, um, they, no, it's okay.
23:16I know.
23:17The colonizer crowd.
23:19Uh, so, um, but let's talk, but that brings me to your book.
23:22Yeah, yeah.
23:23Which is that, uh, it's a book about Native American cuisine.
23:25Yep.
23:26And what's interesting, which I feel, uh, it's kind of, uh, a burden on you is that
23:33you, one man from Pine Ridge is forced to kind of represent all of Native America here.
23:39And you do a good job of it.
23:41You go to the different regions.
23:42Yeah, yeah.
23:43It split up all the different regions on Turtle Island.
23:45Yeah, yeah.
23:46Which is the North American continent.
23:47Absolutely.
23:48You know, each region and, um, the cuisine there, the type of people, how they live there.
23:53Uh, how difficult was it to kind of gather the information for this book?
23:57Because it's not just...
23:58Well, it was immense amount of work.
24:00And, you know, and it was, it took a community to put this together, you know.
24:03So the two co-authors with Kate Nelson and Kristen Donnelly, we all played a certain role
24:07through helping to put this all together.
24:09But we also reached out to this massive network all over Turtle Island.
24:12You know, in Mexico, in the U.S., in Canada, up in Alaska.
24:15And just talked to people to really get their perspectives, you know.
24:18So it wasn't me trying to mansplain everybody's Native foods out there.
24:21But it was really just allowing these voices to come through to talk about it.
24:25And showcasing all of this massive diversity.
24:27Because there's so much to talk about, you know.
24:29And there's so little that people know about Native America in, you know, across the United States.
24:34And a lot of that's because of our colonial U.S. history books that teach us nothing about Indigenous peoples, you know.
24:40And there's so much to learn.
24:41And there's so much knowledge about the plant usage for medicine, for food, for crafting.
24:46And there's just so much diversity to explore out there, you know.
24:50And there's also obviously the environmental angle.
24:52Absolutely.
24:53Because it's just, like, Indigenous people had the blueprint to live sustainably anywhere, you know.
24:57Like, pick a space around the world.
24:58And so because we had, you know, thousands and thousands of generations of knowledge of what to do with the world around us,
25:04and how to live sustainably around there, there's a lot of amazing lessons that we could pull.
25:08Because really this isn't just about Native Americans in America.
25:11This is looking at Indigenous peoples.
25:13And we can apply this anywhere.
25:14This could be South America, Africa, India, Southeast Asia, Australia, New Zealand.
25:18Because we can just, like, dismantle colonization and the values that that brought.
25:21And really focus on, like, this massive global intellect and knowledge base of Indigenous peoples of being sustainable with the world around us.
25:29And all this diversity of food and culture that's out there.
25:32Sure.
25:33And, um, yeah.
25:34Which is where we go.
25:38And also, what's cool about your restaurant and recipes here, I think your interpretation of Native American food, to me, is that it's not like,
25:45and you make a point of this at the start of the book, is that you're not trying for historical accuracy here.
25:50No. Yeah, we're not a museum, so.
25:51Right.
25:52Yeah, you're not trying to eat what they ate back then.
25:53Yeah.
25:54For me, it's almost like, it's like, if Native American culture had been allowed to modernize to today, if it had been allowed to develop, this is the outcome.
26:06Absolutely.
26:07Because we have this moment now that we can evolve all of our food moving forward.
26:10So, for me, this is a book for the future, because I feel like I'm a futurist.
26:13Like, I'm seeing a better way that we can celebrate diversity, not try to homogenize it.
26:18We can understand how to live closer.
26:19We can have a lot more plant diversity, you know, and stop, you know, calling everything a weed, but starting to learn the names of everything, you know.
26:25I always tease that kids can name more Kardashians than tree species, because our education system sucks, you know.
26:31Right.
26:32And there's so much more that we can do.
26:37That's not fair.
26:38Some of these trees are called Kim Kardashian.
26:40Sure, sure, sure.
26:41I'm confused.
26:42But yeah, all the recipes in here look beautiful.
26:45Um, and, uh, just in time for, um, Thanksgiving, I guess.
26:52Well...
26:56I don't know about you, but, uh, I didn't grow up with Thanksgiving.
27:00I feel nothing about Thanksgiving.
27:03If you tell...
27:04I mean, how-how are Native Americans, you know...
27:07Well, I mean, I...
27:08How do they deal with this onslaught of Thanksgiving?
27:10We talk about a lot...
27:11I have a lot of friends and family that don't celebrate at all, you know.
27:14Sure.
27:15And just completely ignore it, because it is very damaging to have this mythology, you know, that just focuses on this made-up moment of history of, you know, Native and pilgrims coming together.
27:24And so it's just like, you know, so people will just be like, well, you know, we're paying respect to Native peoples.
27:29But, you know, but you're also just saying, like, forget about, like, these centuries of land, like, moving you off of your land, genocide, all these things that happened throughout US history.
27:39And just...
27:40But remember that time we had dinner together?
27:41Yeah, it's not good.
27:42It's not...
27:43Yeah.
27:44But I feel like...
27:45I feel like it is an important holiday that we do get a moment to come together, you know, and if you want to pay respect and you want to, you know, be an ally and, you know, understand Indigenous culture, you know, pay respect, think about the land that you're standing on, learn a little bit about the history, learn about the tribes that are living by you, buy food from Indigenous producers, buy a Native cookbook, you know?
28:10Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:15And, um...
28:16I love it.
28:17I was very lucky to go visit the Native American Museum in DC.
28:20Yeah, yeah.
28:21And what I loved about it was it was kind of what you're describing, your vision of Native American culture, which is this kind of what if Native American culture had been allowed to modernize into today and the building, the architecture is all Native American inspired.
28:35And you go in there and what I loved about it was that it's not just misery porn.
28:40Right, right.
28:41It's celebratory as well.
28:42Yeah, yeah.
28:43And one of the rooms in there that was...
28:44It's a very bright room.
28:45I don't know if the exhibit's still there.
28:47Um, the undertones are obviously upsetting, but the overtones, it's a bright room and it was saying how, uh, everything in America is Native American.
28:59We use the names everywhere.
29:00Chicago.
29:01Oh, yeah.
29:02Illinois.
29:03Yeah, Minnesota.
29:04Yeah.
29:05You know?
29:06Uh, Washington professional football team.
29:07Um, uh, the, like, even the logos of, like, American spirit cigarettes.
29:14Sure.
29:15And we see, we actually in America see Native American names and, and culture everywhere, but we never hear from them.
29:21Right, yeah.
29:22And again, like, there's so much amazing stuff going on across Native America, you know, because we are starting to see more Native chefs come out.
29:29We're seeing a lot more Native media with TV shows and movies and a lot more representation of Native peoples doing what they're doing.
29:35A lot more arts, a lot more just everything, you know?
29:37And I think that it is time for us to, like, not be pushed into the shadows and not just be, you know, pretending like we're just on these reservation systems, these segregated communities.
29:46But, you know, allowing us to be a part of everything, too, you know?
29:49And I, I do expect this book to be banned in Florida, but, but it's important because we should learn these histories because it's American history.
29:59Like, we all share the history here, you know?
30:01And we shouldn't be afraid of history.
30:02We should learn from it.
30:03And history can be really hard to read sometimes, you know?
30:06But I feel like we should understand the pain and trauma that some people had to go through, especially, you know, Indigenous peoples.
30:11Because, like, my tribe Lakota, like, we were still battling the U.S. government until the turn of the century because, like, Wounded Knee Massacre happens in 1890.
30:18And that's not ancient history, you know?
30:19That's the point when we started losing a lot of our culture because that's when we're being really forced onto the reservation systems.
30:25Our, my grandparents' generation are going through boarding schools, having to cut their hair, learn English, learn Christianity, and just changing everything that they were from Lakota into something different, you know?
30:34But it's just layering on so much trauma to those generations that we still feel a lot of that coming through, you know?
30:40So, when you really look at what happened to Indigenous peoples and, you know, other people, like, Black and Indigenous in American history especially, like, they're so interwoven together with the stuff that we had to go through, that, you know, food can help us pull through this.
30:52You know?
30:53I think it's important we understand our histories.
30:54It's also important that we see the future.
30:56Yeah.
30:57Thank you so much.
30:58And, um, look, thank you so much for preserving it.
31:03And thank you for providing a rally point for people who want to be an ally.
31:07And thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
31:09And I hope you can keep sharing it.
31:10Thank you so much.
31:11Because there's a lot to learn.
31:12Thank you, Chef.
31:13Thank you so much.
31:14Appreciate it.
31:15It's Turtle Island.
31:16It's available now.
31:17Chef Sean Sherman.
31:18We're going to take a quick break.
31:19We'll be right back after this.
31:21Thank you so much.
31:22Thank you so much.
31:23We'll be right back after this.
31:24Hey, that's our show for tonight.
31:35But before we go, this Thanksgiving, please consider supporting Feeding America.
31:39They are the largest hunger relief organization in the United States.
31:42If you can support them in their work, please donate at the link below.
31:45Now, here it is, your moment of zen.
31:47I'm all for the environmental, everything.
31:51I'm all for climate change.
31:52You know, they have the new word, climate change.
31:54It used to be global warming.
31:56It's global warming.
31:57Well, that didn't work because it started coming down.
32:00They did the global cooling thing.
32:02Then they just said, we can't keep up with this.
32:04It's too much.
32:05So we'll go, perfect words, climate change.
32:10Sorry.
32:11Sorry.
Be the first to comment
Add your comment