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The Assembly (2025) Season 1 Episode 4
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00:00Enjoy.
00:01Hi, everyone.
00:02Hi, Alan.
00:03Hi.
00:04Thank you for coming all the way from Newfoundland.
00:06Oh, thank you.
00:09Hi.
00:10What type of dog do you have?
00:12I have a King Charles Cavalier.
00:14I said it would be fitting if this dog was Labrador.
00:16It's like Newfoundland and Labrador.
00:17I know.
00:18We're a Newfoundland dog, the big ones.
00:20Oh.
00:21But I don't.
00:22I have two tiny little ones.
00:23Oh, okay.
00:24That's nice.
00:25Do you speak any other languages?
00:26I barely speak this one.
00:28English, you mean.
00:29Yeah.
00:30How about you?
00:31Newfoundlandese, I guess.
00:32Newfoundlandese.
00:33You probably speak a bit of that.
00:34I do.
00:35Yeah?
00:36I do.
00:37Yeah.
00:38I have a question.
00:39Did you work with Russell Crowe?
00:41I did.
00:42Oh.
00:43My God.
00:44Yeah.
00:45Wait.
00:46Are you friends with him or not?
00:47I am.
00:48Do you guys know who Alan Doyle is?
00:50Yeah.
00:51Great Big C.
00:52They went out one night and Alan invited me to join them because I lived in Toronto at
00:57the time.
00:58And we've been friends ever since.
01:01That was 2003.
01:03And then when I, Republic of Doyle, the second that we got a green light for the show, Russell
01:08was like, I'll come do it.
01:10It's cool.
01:11Cool.
01:12Yeah.
01:13Yeah.
01:14Yeah.
01:15Yeah.
01:16That's my show too.
01:17Yeah.
01:18I was researching that on the internet.
01:19Oh, okay.
01:20Was it good things or?
01:21Oh, good things.
01:22Okay.
01:23Cool.
01:31Okay.
01:32Everybody is here.
01:33So TJ, do you get to open the show for us?
01:37Of course.
01:38Okay.
01:41Welcome to the assembly and collect autistic and neurodivergent viewers.
01:46We are very delighted to have you join us today.
01:48The rules are no sharp jets out of bounds, no questions off the table, and all might happen.
01:55Can you please tell us your name kindly?
01:58My name is Alan Hocko.
02:01Good name.
02:02Thanks.
02:03Our first question is from Nick.
02:15Hello there.
02:16Yeah.
02:17Now, my question is, I'm an actor myself actually.
02:20Are you?
02:21And yes, there was one particular role I had in a music video, which was extremely ridiculous
02:26and degrading.
02:27I had to wear a cheap and really awful costume, and I had to force a plastic smile through the
02:33whole thing.
02:34My question is, what was the worst role you've ever taken?
02:40I'm sorry you went through that.
02:43When I was starting out as a young actor, I worked at a modeling agency where I had to
02:51be a stripper at a hairdresser's convention.
02:56Oh.
02:57Oh gosh.
02:58Okay.
02:59Did they have showers then?
03:00Did they have showers?
03:02It wasn't, it wasn't full, but it still was bad enough.
03:07And once I was fired from being a background performer on a Resident Evil movie in Toronto,
03:17I was really resentful that I was a background performer and I wasn't in the show.
03:24I broke one of the rules.
03:26I was playing a zombie, you know, and I wore like a hoodie because it was cold.
03:32Wardrobe was all zombie wardrobe.
03:34And then I had this new hoodie on and then someone saw it and they got mad.
03:38And then I spoke back to them and I got fired.
03:40Oh man.
03:43Yeah, you wanted to be the center of the stage, huh?
03:45I wanted a role, you know?
03:47I wanted to do the job that I get to do now.
03:50The background community is so valuable, but I didn't know that then.
03:54I was so mad at the world.
03:58Yeah.
03:59Yeah.
04:00Good question, Nick.
04:01Yeah, thanks.
04:02Karin, you're next.
04:07So, back in 2022, I spent about 15 minutes filling out its mission form on impulse because
04:18I was bored, not expecting to hear anything back from it.
04:21And I eventually ended up alone on a stage in front of 5,000 people on national television
04:26trying to make them laugh.
04:28Yeah, so my question is what small random impulse or moment had the biggest unexpected impact on your life?
04:38Yeah, oh, great question.
04:41First of all, congrats.
04:43That's one of my greatest fears.
04:45If someone's got that question, that's, what's my greatest fear?
04:48That's one of them.
04:51Stand up.
04:52Scares me.
04:53Well, I am incredibly brave.
04:55So, an impulse moment that I'm glad I took, I was auditioning for a play at Soulpepper in Toronto, which is a really well-established classical theatre company.
05:14To get in that company was like a big deal.
05:17And I was blowing my audition.
05:18I was just not doing great.
05:21And I was leaving at the end of my audition and you could feel everybody was looking at me like I was a disappointment to them.
05:28And on my way out the door, I stopped and went back and asked them to let me do it all over again.
05:33And it was an impulse moment that I'm glad I, it probably changed the trajectory of my career because I got in the company that year.
05:40So, once I was in that company, the industry looked at me in a different way and then everything changed for me.
05:46That's awesome.
05:53What is that?
05:54That means clap ASL and that's how deaf people clap.
05:58Okay.
05:59Liam is next.
06:01Hi.
06:02Hi.
06:05The character of Jake Doyle has become as iconic as any other fictional detective.
06:11Holmes, Poirot, Columbo.
06:14My question was, were there any like performances in detective fiction that you drew on when developing Doyle or did you just go your own way with it?
06:24I was extremely influenced by a lot of people as an actor.
06:30The goal for me is to be as much of me in the part that I'm playing as possible, but I'm not cool. Jake Doyle is cool. I am not.
06:42Like Jake Doyle in Republic of Doyle, we really went into a deep dive on all of that stuff. Jim Rockford, big time, Sonny Crockett, Miami Vice, Remington Steele, a lot of the 70s, a lot of the British stuff we drew heavily on.
07:01I love detective fiction.
07:03I love detective fiction.
07:04I love that stuff too.
07:05Me too.
07:06Yeah, I love it.
07:07It's so good.
07:08Yeah, I love, love, love it.
07:09Yeah.
07:12Luca, you are next.
07:14Okay.
07:16So, um, hello there. Here's a question. I'm not sure if you'd answer this very well, but have you ever been rejected by somebody that you love?
07:29Oh yeah.
07:30You have?
07:31Oh yeah.
07:32Yeah.
07:33Was it because they thought you weren't, um, the good looking or something?
07:37Probably.
07:40Or something.
07:43You know what's funny about my career as an actor is you are rejected constantly.
07:5090% of the job is not getting the part.
07:54It's extremely challenging to face those odds.
07:58And the way I deal with it is the same way I dealt with it back in my youth when I was rejected by a girl that I loved or thought I loved.
08:07Is what are you going to do about it?
08:09You just got to keep moving on.
08:11Yep. That's the mindset that I have.
08:13That's good.
08:14What else is there?
08:16You can't be what someone else wants you to be ever.
08:18You can only be you.
08:20You can be a better you and you can work on being a better you as much as you possibly can.
08:25But you can't be something else for someone.
08:28Yeah.
08:29You can't force yourself into a space that doesn't work for you.
08:34Understood.
08:36Great. Thank you, Luca.
08:39Got Nicole. You're next.
08:47My question for you is, how old were you for your first kiss?
08:52My first kiss was pretty early.
08:57You know what? My first kiss, I think I was fine.
09:02Oh, that is pretty early.
09:05And it might have been four.
09:07And it wasn't like a big kiss or anything, but she was a little bit older than me.
09:15And I had a bit of a crush.
09:17Oh, wow.
09:18By how much?
09:20Two years older than me.
09:22Two years older than you?
09:23Yeah.
09:24Wow, man.
09:25I thought it was seven years older than you.
09:27No, it wasn't that old.
09:28No, no, no, no.
09:29That would have been weird.
09:30Have you ever kissed a boy?
09:33Never kissed a boy.
09:35Oh!
09:36Oh, man.
09:38I've never even kissed a boy in acting.
09:43Like, I've never played a gay character.
09:46Wow.
09:47Interesting.
09:48Or a character who's curious or any of that.
09:51Oh, okay.
09:52Thanks for answering.
09:55Next is Daniel.
09:57My question is, what piece of Newfoundland slang do you wish would pick up and spread throughout
10:10the country?
10:11Do you want me to teach you one?
10:12Sure.
10:13Yeah.
10:14Yeah.
10:15Teach me.
10:16Okay.
10:17So, what are you at?
10:19What are you at?
10:20Yeah.
10:21It's not where are you at, which people everywhere say, where are you at?
10:26Yeah.
10:27In Newfoundland, we say, where are you to?
10:31Where are you to means, where are you?
10:33Oh.
10:34So, stay where you're to till it comes where you're at.
10:37But it can also be, stay where you're at till it comes where you're to.
10:40Which also means, stay where you're to till it comes where you're at.
10:47To say, what are you at, is what are you doing?
10:50And your answer doesn't have to be specific.
10:53Your answer can just be nothing.
10:55Even if you're performing surgery, you would say, nothing.
10:57What are you at?
11:02Oh, thank you.
11:09Connie, you are next.
11:13Hi, Alan.
11:14Hi.
11:15What are you at?
11:16This is it.
11:18Did I say it right?
11:19You said it perfect.
11:20Awesome.
11:21Okay.
11:22What was a belief that you had in your 20s that you don't believe today?
11:28I used to believe that Newfoundland should be its own country.
11:32Oh, no way.
11:33Why, man?
11:34Like, passionately.
11:35Crazy.
11:38I was just really passionate as a Newfoundlander.
11:40I loved the culture, place, the history.
11:42I was really, really into it.
11:44And Newfoundland joined Canada in a strange way, and we were all obsessed with it.
11:48Right.
11:49And I got over that because I went to Bosnia in 2004 or something.
11:55So it was, like, very shortly after the war.
11:58And I saw firsthand what nationalism can do.
12:01Right.
12:02And I love Newfoundland and Labrador.
12:05I love the place.
12:07But life has changed.
12:09Like, Newfoundland has so many people from other parts of the world that live there.
12:13Right.
12:14Closing it off into its concept of what a national identity is or something.
12:19It's, like, racist.
12:20It's archaic.
12:21That's crazy.
12:22Your whole perspective, it kind of just flipped on a dime.
12:25Well, you go to a place where they experience bloodshed and war.
12:30Yeah.
12:31If there's an us and there's a them, if you were an alien to look down at us, you'd be like,
12:35well, what's the difference exactly?
12:37I got over that real quick.
12:39Yeah.
12:40All right.
12:41Thank you so much.
12:42Next is Austin.
12:44Okay.
12:45So let's get straight to it.
12:47What is the dumbest thing you have ever done that, like, just haunts you?
12:52Probably, I have to think, I have to think.
12:56What is the honest answer to the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life?
13:05What is the dumbest thing you have ever done that, like, just haunts you?
13:14I know the answer.
13:15I knew it would come to me.
13:17I started smoking when I was a kid.
13:20I was 13 years old.
13:27You know, my parents weren't smokers.
13:30No one encouraged me to do it, but it's just something I did.
13:34And it's haunted me my whole life.
13:36I don't smoke now.
13:37Good for you.
13:39Yeah.
13:40But I've struggled with it my whole life.
13:41It's like an addiction you can't control.
13:43And I wish I had never taken that first puff because you get addicted very quickly.
13:49Did you stop shortly after?
13:51No.
13:52I smoked all through high school until I got to theater school.
13:56You could smoke inside the building in Quebec at that time.
14:00It was...
14:01No way.
14:02Yeah.
14:03It was really...
14:04Different times.
14:05Different times, yeah.
14:06But challenging to quit when it was all around you.
14:09And I did.
14:10And I have fallen off the wagon a number of times and picked it up.
14:14But I've always stopped.
14:15And I hope this time is my last time.
14:18That's my honest, stupidest thing I ever did.
14:21Yeah.
14:22All right.
14:23Thank you, Austin.
14:24Great question.
14:25Karen, you are next.
14:27Oh, hi.
14:29I'm so sorry.
14:42Can I come closer?
14:44How do I manage my anxiety?
14:58Like anxiety?
14:59Yeah.
15:03I get very nervous in public speaking.
15:12I meditate.
15:13I try to meditate.
15:15I try to remember that everybody that I'm speaking to wants me to do well.
15:23I just try to breathe, focus on my breath.
15:27It's hard.
15:28Is it?
15:29Yeah.
15:30It's hard.
15:31Amazing.
15:32Thanks, Karen.
15:34Alexis is next.
15:36Hi.
15:37Hi.
15:38So, as a child with a religious upbringing, I understand that your mom was a nun who later
15:46became a teacher.
15:47And I want to know, like, if you ever felt pressured to kind of follow a very specific
15:54moral or religious kind of path as you were growing up.
15:59I don't know if I'd say pressured, but we were raised in a really staunch Catholic household.
16:08And I'm a very curious person.
16:11I constantly ask the question, why?
16:15It's never enough for me to be, well, this is the answer.
16:19You have to do that.
16:20This is what you're told.
16:22Even as a child, I just didn't subscribe to that.
16:25But I'm the youngest of four.
16:28Yep.
16:29I'd say my oldest sibling, Michelle, might have felt more of that pressure.
16:33But as time went on, my parents were very busy.
16:38They just chilled out.
16:40You know?
16:41So, being out partying or drinking or whatever in high school, which I did tons of.
16:47But they kind of gave me a wide berth to make my own choices and be responsible.
16:53Yeah.
16:54And there was a number of dumb things that I did during that time.
16:57I had this one trick that I used to do when I was a teenager.
17:00Is I used to call home from the party I was at.
17:03Because I was, my room was in the basement.
17:05So I would call from the party.
17:07And my mother would answer the phone and I would say, I got it, Mom.
17:11And then she would be like, okay.
17:13And hang up thinking that I was home and I'd answered the phone.
17:16Yeah.
17:22But I've confessed that to her a number of times.
17:24Yeah.
17:25Thanks, Alexis.
17:27Julia, you are next.
17:35Hey, Alan.
17:36Hi.
17:37When I was younger, me and my friend used to fight quite a bit.
17:42And one time she pulled the chair and I fell over.
17:45And then I sharpened my pencil and I put it under her bum.
17:48Oh.
17:49Oh, my God.
17:51Oh, my God.
17:53She still jokes that she has lead in her bum.
17:55And so I was just wondering, did you ever fight with your siblings or friends?
18:00Yeah.
18:03I grew up in a tough town that had a lot of physical fights.
18:06Like I used to have to get, I used to have to get in fights a lot.
18:11And I didn't like it.
18:12So it was never really something I liked to do.
18:15And my problem is that when I lose my temper, I can lose my temper, but it doesn't last long.
18:22So I got in a fight once with a guy in my school.
18:27A bunch of guys were picking on me and I got really mad and I said we were going to fight each other at 3 o'clock.
18:33And that was at 10.
18:34And by 3, I wasn't, I forgot what we were mad at.
18:38Wasn't mad anymore.
18:39He beat me up pretty good.
18:42Oh.
18:43Oh, I'm sorry.
18:44Well, thank you.
18:45I try not to do a lot of fighting on purpose.
18:52Alex, you are next.
18:58Hello.
18:59I'm Alex.
19:00Nice to meet you.
19:01Nice to meet you.
19:02My question for you today is what is the hardest thing you've forgiven yourself for?
19:25Hello, I'm Alex.
19:26Nice to meet you.
19:27Nice to meet you.
19:28My question for you today is what is the hardest thing you've forgiven yourself for?
19:38Um...
19:44I don't know.
19:45It's probably stuff around my father.
20:00Yeah.
20:01I get that one.
20:02It's hard with Dad.
20:03Since he's passed, I've spent a lot of time thinking about the positives.
20:10Because when he was alive, we had a lot of conflict.
20:14He had so many great qualities.
20:16Yeah.
20:18He was a great father in so many ways most of the time.
20:22He had demons, you know, we all do.
20:26No one is...
20:27No one is...
20:28No one is there ever one thing.
20:31We made amends and everything, so I feel okay about that.
20:35And...
20:36At the end of the day, he was insanely supportive of me going into this really ludicrous career,
20:45particularly from the place that he came from and where I came from.
20:48It didn't feel like a feasible thing to do.
20:50And really, it really isn't.
20:52It's a strange and very complicated career.
20:55And he wasn't...
20:56He never questioned it.
20:59Yeah.
21:06If you'd like to end there, that's okay.
21:08Yeah.
21:09Just for my mom's sake, I think.
21:11Yeah, that's fair.
21:12Again, he wasn't like a super bad guy or anything.
21:15We just had a complicated thing.
21:19Yeah.
21:20No.
21:21Relationships with parents are very difficult.
21:22They can be challenging.
21:23Yeah.
21:24Thank you for your answer.
21:26Thanks for your question.
21:27Of course.
21:31Devin, you're next.
21:37Hey, Ellen.
21:39Hi.
21:40My question is, do you move to America, pay for more money?
21:53I think you're asking if I would move to America to make more money?
21:59Yep.
22:00Okay.
22:01Yes, I would definitely make more money if I were doing what I do now in America.
22:07But I never wanted to live anywhere else.
22:11I like living in Canada.
22:15I lived in Toronto.
22:16I lived in Montreal.
22:18I love living in Newfoundland.
22:21I love Newfoundland.
22:23But I didn't want to live anywhere else.
22:25I wanted to stay here and tell our stories in Canada.
22:30I've been very lucky to get to do that.
22:33Great.
22:34Thank you, Devin.
22:37Alex, would you like to close the show for us?
22:40Yes.
22:41So, first off, I want to just say thank you for coming today and being vulnerable with us.
22:49It's not easy to do this.
22:51So, on that note, how was the experience for you?
22:56It was hard, but it was also lovely.
23:00Thank you for your compassion.
23:01You asked me your question.
23:03You were very compassionate about bringing me out of where I was going.
23:06So, thank you.
23:07Of course.
23:08And thank you to everybody.
23:10This was...
23:13I'm from the theatre.
23:14I love the truth.
23:15I'm kind of bringing a real experience to life, which is what you guys do so effectively.
23:20And I'm honoured to be here.
23:21So, thank you.
23:23Yeah, thank you for coming today.
23:24We appreciate it.
23:25Yes.
23:26Thank you so much.
23:27Thanks.
23:33I made a new friend today.
23:34Yes, me too.
23:38Where are we going?
23:39Where are we going?
23:40For the photo.
23:41We're going to have a photo soon.
23:42Amazing.
23:43Are you starched at the store, Lawrence?
23:44Both.
23:45I like both.
23:46I like both too.
23:47Yeah.
23:48Good job.
23:55Smiles.
23:56There we go.
23:58There we go.
23:59Loving it.
24:00So, it's going to have fun.
24:01You know?
24:02Do you want ?
24:03Will it please?
24:04Nope.
24:05Like, where are we going?
24:06Listen up?
24:07It's fine.
24:08This is half a minute.
24:09Just like an pimp.
24:10Oldenit.
24:11Yes, the internet.
24:12Don't turn the net.
24:13Like you.
24:14Fat has differently.
24:15If you want to grab this party.
24:22Yes.
24:23In the background.
24:24Now, see how did you expect?
24:25He historia that you can see.
24:25That's definitely what you want.
24:28You
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