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00:30All right, the Giants just fell 27-20
00:58to the Green Bay Packers at home.
01:00You saw the slate there.
01:02It was Jameis Winston versus Jordan Love,
01:04but Jordan Love is going to be the one eating some cheese
01:07in the Ws after that win.
01:09Sloppy win for the Packers.
01:11It was a game where I felt like the Giants fought hard,
01:15but at the end, they just did not have enough firepower
01:18to keep up with the Packers.
01:21And then on the same time, defense.
01:23After a go-ahead touchdown with around four minutes left,
01:26that gives up a touchdown for the Green Bay Packers
01:30to kind of take that lead.
01:31I'm Brandon London alongside of Dan Martin.
01:34Dan covers anything and everything for the Post.
01:37Dan, let's go with your takeaways, man, and we'll get into this.
01:41It's one that we're sitting here talking again,
01:44like the Giants could have, should have, would have had that.
01:47But there's a but, dot, dot, dot, at the end of that.
01:50What's your takeaways, my man?
01:51Brandon, I mean, all that is true, and it seems like no matter
01:55who's running the show, who's the coach, who's the quarterback,
01:59that's the story of this year is that you're going to look back
02:02and you're going to look at three or four or five games,
02:05who knows how many it's going to be, that if a couple things go different,
02:08they win, and who knows how the season goes.
02:12Maybe it's a different story.
02:13Maybe Brian Dayball is still the coach, and a lot of things are different.
02:17So there were some good things today.
02:19I feel like you could say that about a decent amount of Giant games this year.
02:25But here we are, 2-9 at the end of November.
02:31It's just, you know, watching this game,
02:34as someone who's watched the Giants for about 40 years,
02:38it felt like a Giant game, you know, running the ball 40 times,
02:43not quite making the best of your opportunities.
02:47Those long, long drives, and then coming up short,
02:52coming away with no points, just not making enough plays to get over the hump.
02:58Watching the backup quarterback come in for the other team
03:01and score a touchdown, running down the field.
03:05You know, the Packers had their own issues,
03:07obviously dropping balls left and right.
03:10Love getting hurt, leaving the game for a while.
03:12Josh Jacobs getting knocked out and whatever that was,
03:14was the first of the second quarter.
03:16And Williams coming in for him, and he ran the ball down their throat,
03:20certainly on that one touchdown that he ran through the middle of the defense,
03:23so practically untouched.
03:25So, you know, obviously this season is over.
03:29It was over long before today.
03:32But, I guess, what are you looking at?
03:35You know better than I do.
03:36You're looking at Mike Kafka as the head coach,
03:39and Shane Bowen.
03:41I can't imagine he's going to stick around too much longer,
03:44but maybe, you know, he could have proven something.
03:47And just individual guys stepping up or not stepping up.
03:52And I don't know.
03:53It just felt like a Giant game in November,
03:57where the season's over.
04:01Jameis Winston is fun to watch.
04:04He didn't turn the ball over until the last two plays of the game.
04:07Obviously, there was some good fortune there.
04:09You know, Packers probably should have had at least two,
04:11maybe three interceptions before he finally threw on.
04:15And then watching the broadcast there,
04:17Drew Brees pointing out that the interception in the end zone
04:19might not have even been his fault.
04:21Might have been, you know,
04:22you could probably speak to this, Brandon, better than I can.
04:24But Jalen Hyatt might have stopped on the route,
04:27and he could have maybe made a play on the ball.
04:30But, you know, entertaining game.
04:32You know, it felt like a Giant game.
04:34I don't know what the final stat was,
04:35but they probably held the ball for almost 40 minutes.
04:38They probably ran the ball about 40 times.
04:41So it felt like watching, you know,
04:44Otis Anderson running down the field three yards at a time,
04:48and he just hoped not to make any mistakes
04:50and just to make enough plays.
04:52And then one other thing, it doesn't really matter,
04:54but I think today was their 14th kicker that they used,
04:58and, you know, they just can't get it right.
05:00You know, I know it was windy today,
05:02and the Packers kicker was a mess worse than Koo.
05:04But, I mean, it's such a mismanaged position this year,
05:10and it's a small thing when you're 2-9, I guess,
05:12you know, in the grand scheme of things.
05:13It wouldn't have mattered who their kicker was.
05:16But it's just another example of just mismanagement of the roster,
05:22carrying Godot for however many weeks they carried him,
05:25carrying two kickers at a time, and then you settle on Koo here,
05:28and, you know, he's missing kicks just like everybody else.
05:30So frustrating game, entertaining game if you weren't –
05:35if you didn't have any money on it or you weren't a Giant fan.
05:39If I'm a Packer fan, I'm certainly not too – you know, I'll take the win,
05:42but I'm not encouraged by anything I saw.
05:44If you're a team that, you know, opened the season
05:47and the first few weeks of the season looked like the best team in the league
05:50or the best team in the NFC anyway,
05:52that doesn't look like a team that's going to do much in the playoffs.
05:57So, you know, fun game to watch.
06:00I'm glad they gave Jameis Winston a chance with Dart out
06:04just to change it up a little bit.
06:07And he does what he does.
06:09You know, he's a smart player.
06:11He does three or four crazy things a game.
06:14He almost got away with it.
06:16And, you know, it just wasn't enough.
06:18And when you look at it, if you take a step back, you know,
06:22you probably want the best draft pick that you can get.
06:24You don't want to – whether you want to finish –
06:28win a few games to salvage something or to see what Mike Kafka can do.
06:31But when you're talking about playing your third-string quarterback,
06:34the offense is a train wreck in terms of the roster.
06:39Neighbors is out.
06:40You got Isaiah Hodgins back from the dead.
06:43And he'll keep himself where he left off in, I don't know, five or six catches.
06:47You know, he was their best receiver today.
06:52Yeah.
06:52It's hard to make too much of it because the season's over.
06:56And the head coach is gone.
06:57So, did you like what you saw from Mike Kafka today?
07:01Who knows?
07:01I don't know.
07:03I'll defer to you on that.
07:04He seemed fine.
07:05But, you know, they went for it on fourth down a bunch.
07:07That was fun.
07:08It was fun.
07:09Fun game.
07:10Yeah.
07:10Yeah.
07:10I mean, I think – you know, because when I went into this game to watch this game,
07:14you know, it's a game you have to manage your expectations.
07:17One, Jackson darts out.
07:19Two, Malik neighbors.
07:20Cam Scadaboo.
07:21It's like – it's a laundry list.
07:22A myriad of guys who are just starters who are out.
07:26Tyler Newbin.
07:27Paulson Adebo.
07:28But when we talk about a game like this with, you know, season pretty much over,
07:32you're not going to the playoffs, it's a game of opportunity.
07:35And it's a game where what we say in the locker room at all times,
07:39whether it's preseason, the beginning of the season,
07:42or towards the end where you could be mathematically out of playoff contention.
07:49The eye in the sky still doesn't lie.
07:51So when we talk about guys stepping up and getting their opportunity,
07:54I think Isaiah Hodgins did a great job.
07:57I think what he just landed like two or three days ago,
08:00and he was able to pick back up Mike Kafka's offense and be effective with it.
08:06Jalen Hyatt, two for 18.
08:08You wanted to see more effort on that last play,
08:11especially that interception, especially if, yeah,
08:14you may not think you're going to get that ball,
08:16but you still have to break up that pass to make sure that if you don't get it,
08:21no one gets it.
08:22But when we talk about Mike Kafka and this being his first game for him to show
08:28the mirrors, the tissues, management, hey, here's my resume as a head coach.
08:34Here's what I could do.
08:35I think he took a step forward in the right direction.
08:38Do we think that he's a front runner for the job right now?
08:42No, but I think he did a great job on a weird week to still be able to go out,
08:49put up 336 total yards of offense, which was more than the Packers,
08:54a buck 94 passing yards, which was more than the Packers,
08:58a buck 42 on the ground, which was more than the Packers.
09:02The only thing the Packers really let in was yards per play.
09:05You look at the first downs, 22.
09:07He goes 50% on third down, 7 for 14, then 3 for 4 on fourth down.
09:13So when you look at what Mike Kafka was able to do today,
09:17offensively, he took a step in the right direction.
09:21Now, again, this is only one game out of, what, seven he's going to have.
09:25Jackson Dart hopefully should be back next week.
09:28I think they need to slow play that because we're talking about a concussion
09:32and there's no need to rush him back.
09:36Offensively, Mike Kafka showed it's – I'm either a heck of a coordinator,
09:43I can call plays, I know how to call plays for multiple
09:46or a myriad of quarterbacks because he's gone through all three this year
09:50and he's had Tommy DeVito in the past.
09:53But two, now we look at the defense.
09:57Now, I mean, I understand Shane Bowen and these guys were under a microscope before,
10:02but now we look at it again to where the Giants offense has went down,
10:06scored to take the lead, and it was with like four-something left in this game.
10:11And then Packers offense was able to just march down the field
10:14and go and score a touchdown.
10:16Not even three, not even field goal, Dan.
10:19They were able to get the touchdown, and then they got the two-point conversion as well.
10:24January 6, 2025, this year, John Merrill, when he was speaking to the media,
10:30what was the one thing he said that really stuck out
10:33and really sounded like it was a warning shot to everybody?
10:37He said, I'm getting tired of teams march up and down the field on our defense.
10:43And when you say like today was a Giants-like performance,
10:46they stayed in it, they fought hard.
10:49I didn't see a guy quit on that one play.
10:52But at the end of the day, when you say like this is Giants football,
10:56running the ball 40 times and all, big blue wrecking crew,
11:00that's what we did not see today.
11:02And we haven't been able to see that throughout the course of the season
11:04because, once again, we see the defense allow an offense to go down the field
11:10and score to take a go-ahead lead.
11:12Yeah, obviously the defense was not as good as it needs to be.
11:17They got a lot of pressure.
11:19Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Carter came on late,
11:22didn't make too many plays, but certainly got into the backfield a lot.
11:26But, you know, you can talk on this too.
11:30You know, the defensive backfield is kind of decimated as well.
11:35They put somebody in there, I don't know,
11:36a 31 who had made two defensive snaps all year.
11:40So just a myriad of issues that they're dealing with,
11:44and they're already kind of beaten up.
11:48They did get lucky.
11:49I mean, we were talking about how many drop balls that the Packers had,
11:52especially in the first half.
11:53The tight ends kept dropping the ball on Green Bay,
11:56and Dobbs, the wide receiver, dropped at least two.
11:59And then all of a sudden on that last drive that you're talking about
12:02where they gave up the touchdown, you know,
12:05all of a sudden they figured out how to catch the ball,
12:07whether it's, you know, obviously Watson is not –
12:09you know, he's a different type of player.
12:12He makes the plays.
12:14But, yeah, they're just off.
12:18You know, Dexter Lawrence had a solid game,
12:22but he's not wrecking games anymore.
12:24Brian Burns can wreck a game.
12:26We haven't seen Carter wreck any games.
12:28They needed something to happen.
12:30They needed to force a turnover.
12:32Both teams are just kind of trading these 8 to 10 to 12 play drives.
12:37So it was almost like whoever has the ball last is going to win.
12:41And if the Giants had a minute instead of 30 seconds when they got the ball back,
12:46you know, maybe it's a different story because, you know,
12:48Jameis on that last play there, he's just trying to throw a Hail Mary
12:52or whatever he was going to do and didn't feel Parsons coming from behind him.
12:56But, yeah, it's – there's a long, long way defensively from where they need to be.
13:05Whether that's schematic or injury or personnel-based, you know,
13:10that's what they have to figure out over the next six weeks now.
13:14You know, whether Shane Bowen is the guy who can fix it,
13:16whether they have the personnel up and down.
13:20You know, obviously their front is pretty good.
13:22How do they fix the defensive backfield?
13:25And, yeah, just find a way to make a play.
13:28You know, they're lacking that.
13:29They've been lacking it all year.
13:31It's part of the reason why they, you know,
13:34the fourth quarter has been such a nightmare for them.
13:36You know, today this is not a collapse or anything,
13:40but it's another game that they led in the fourth quarter and didn't win.
13:44So you're going to look back on all of it and be like, you know,
13:46maybe there was a way that they could have figured this season out,
13:50especially if Dart had stayed healthy.
13:52They had made something of it, and instead they just find ways to lose.
13:55And, you know, is that a cultural thing?
13:58Is that something that Mike Kafka can fix?
14:01Or do they need someone who's more experienced, you know,
14:03Mike McCarthy or someone like that who's coached in the league before
14:07and had success and you know who can establish a culture?
14:10You know, Kafka's got a pretty good resume.
14:12I know he's interviewed for a few good jobs,
14:15had jobs and didn't get them.
14:16But it feels like he's – whether he gets the giant job or not after this season,
14:21he's in line to get one of these at some point.
14:24You don't want to let him out of the building if he's that guy.
14:27So it'll be – that's what you've got to watch the next six weeks,
14:30especially when Dart comes back, whether that's next week or the week after,
14:34because that's the team.
14:36That's who you want to see whether they can do it.
14:38Obviously, you want to see what a guy like Mike Kafka can do
14:41when the third-string quarterback's in the game
14:43and Isaiah Hodgins is your best wide receiver.
14:47That's a good test for any coach.
14:49But you kind of want to see him have all his horses and see what he can do.
14:53Yeah, I'm going to go to the chat here, Dan,
14:55because a lot of people are – there are a lot of fans that are upset with the defense.
14:59You know, and I'm sure the defense is upset with themselves.
15:01Like, it's a thing where when you're in the locker room,
15:03you're not reading the tweets and all.
15:05You don't need to read tweets or you don't need to read articles about you.
15:11You don't need to watch the first takes and all to understand,
15:14hey, we've got to get our ish together.
15:16So in the locker room, whether it be offense or defense,
15:20you're saying to your unit, you're saying to your position group, it's on us.
15:26So for the defense, they have – you know these guys are frustrated right now
15:30because we crowned them – that defensive line, that front seven,
15:37better than the 2007 – we're comparing them to the 2007-2011 defensive lines,
15:44and we haven't seen the same results.
15:46So reading some of the chat here, and we thank you guys for writing in,
15:50always, you know, kind of staying engaging and interacting with us
15:54throughout the course of these post-game live streams.
15:57Peter Ward is – Peter Ward sounds like he's fired up and he's ticked off.
16:02When will they fire Bowen?
16:03Peter Ward, defense can't stop anyone.
16:06Renaldo says, but it is windy here, only missed one kick.
16:11I don't want to hear that.
16:13Like, there's something going on with NFL kickers this year,
16:16something in the water, is there something going on with the footballs?
16:19I just – I don't know.
16:20Maybe we need Tom Brady and the Patriots for a little deflate gate action
16:24because the kicking has just been completely off,
16:27and not even for the Giants, for every team, I feel like.
16:31Dom Toretto says, Banks and Hyatt should be left out for the garbage men
16:36to come get tonight.
16:37Bowen can't teach them anything.
16:39Like, it's just – a lot of people are really upset with the defense, Dan.
16:43And, again, Bobby O'Carrikay, six tackles, one assisted on the day.
16:48Brian Burns did have another sack.
16:51When you talk about the defense, it's like there's only one person.
16:55Well, Cordell, I'll say two.
16:57I'll say two people you can kind of look at and say,
17:01these two guys are sticking out for the right reason.
17:07And that's Paulson to Deebo.
17:08I know he gave up a deep ball, you know, but, you know, stuff happens.
17:12And then Brian Burns.
17:13And one thing about Brian Burns, if he doesn't show up on the stat sheet
17:18in terms of sacks and multiple tackles, he shows up with his effort.
17:24And that's what I feel like this defense – if you can have 11 Brian Burns
17:29on this defense, they'd be a top five, top three defense.
17:32But you can't have that.
17:33So when you say, like, is it schematics, is it personnel,
17:38whether it be me being a head coach's son, my dad's always like,
17:42we got to coach greatness out of the players.
17:44So the coaching staff always puts it on themselves because it's like,
17:48I have to do a better job putting this guy in position.
17:51I got to do a better job putting this guy in position.
17:54But it seems like there are times when the right call is made,
17:58a guy takes a bad angle, a guy, you know, it's a 50-50 ball,
18:04a receiver still comes down with it.
18:06So it's like not one thing you can finger point when it comes to these lapses
18:11defensively, but it is just – it is frustrating because we could be talking
18:16a completely different season right now or having a different set of optimism
18:24for this football team in the rest of this season if defensively they would have
18:30got it together five, six games ago.
18:34And it's just they still haven't been able to do that.
18:37I'm going to go back to the chat here.
18:40Psalms says, so true, Brandon, on kickers.
18:42Appreciate you, Psalms.
18:44Jim Ramsdale, get a sick feeling when you have to count in the defense
18:49to make a stop in the fourth quarter.
18:51I think at this point everybody feels that way.
18:54And it's not – again, we're not bashing.
18:56We're not – it's just we all have eyes.
18:58We're all watching.
19:00And we thought today defensively I thought this could have been a great chance
19:03for them to maybe not change the narrative about themselves,
19:07but at least for you, the media, the writers, to at least be like, okay,
19:12you gave up four double-digit leads before, but at least for today they made the stop.
19:18And, you know, especially with everything going on with Brian Dable being fired.
19:22Peter Ward again says, O-line continues to show improvement
19:26compared to what they've been in recent years.
19:29Absolutely.
19:30Jim Ramsdale again, I get this sick feeling – oh, he already said that.
19:34And then Renaldo also says, yeah, true London, but, man, I'm done with this season.
19:38Let it finish already.
19:40We need a whole rebuild.
19:41We got our quarterback and our running and our receiver just needs some upgrades.
19:46I just want this team to win.
19:50Renaldo, bro, we cover the team.
19:53I'm the in-game emcee.
19:55We feel you, bro.
19:56We feel you.
19:57And the thing – I think it's frustrating, Dan.
19:59I'll put this on you, Dan.
20:01Would you rather them just be blown out in these losses
20:05or continue to have these losses to where, hey, they're in dogfights each game
20:12and it's a misstep here, miscue here, bad defensive effort there,
20:17the reason they lost, they're losing these games.
20:20I think you'll always take the dogfight, right?
20:22I mean, you played.
20:23You know, a dogfight with one or two mistakes that we've just talked about,
20:29you can fix those, you know, whether it's changing one or two players
20:34or coaching a little bit better, you can fix that.
20:37If you're getting blown out, if you're not competitive, then you can't fix that.
20:42Then you have to start all over.
20:43It doesn't seem like the Giants have to start all over.
20:46They still have some big decisions to make, you know, even with the GM,
20:49Joe Shane, he put the team together in 2-8, 2-8, now 2-9, you know,
20:55the last three years, it's a different story every year,
21:01but it's the same result, you know, move the characters around,
21:05but the winning doesn't come.
21:06So you'll take, if you had to choose, you'll take a loss like this,
21:11but when you have time and time again, it's still a loss,
21:14and it's still a lot of losses over a three-year period after, you know,
21:19that Shane and Dayball came in and had that great first year.
21:22So, yeah, there are pieces here, whether it's a big name like Burns,
21:27who, you know, turned out to be a great free agent signing,
21:31or, you know, smaller names that are contributing,
21:34the offensive line was pretty, I mean, there's a reason they were able
21:37to run the ball so effectively today, and a lot of that was the offensive line.
21:41Jameis Winston, I don't know that he got hit until Parsons hit him
21:44on that last play of the game.
21:46He hardly got hit.
21:47So there are pieces there, the offensive line, which has had problems,
21:53they're getting better, so maybe that's a sign of good coaching
21:56and development, but you can't be two and nine every year.
22:02Like, it's ridiculous.
22:05Yeah, okay, so two things.
22:07So when I go back to the blowout versus the close games, I'm 50-50 on that
22:12because what a blowout means is just we just don't have the talent.
22:15Like, we're just not there, we have to draft, you know, we got to go rebuild.
22:19That allows players to know and understand where your team is at.
22:23It's like, bro, we just terrible guys.
22:26But when you're losing these close games, these are the ones that eat you.
22:33These are the ones you can't sleep.
22:34You go home and you just walk right past your wife and kid
22:38and just go lay down in your room because you're thinking.
22:40You think more about it instead of, you know, watching Looney Tunes with your kid.
22:46You're re-watching the game tape and you're like, should I have stepped, you know,
22:49did I should have stepped with my inside foot instead of outside foot?
22:53And then it goes back to something, you know,
22:56I remember when I got released by the Miami Dolphins.
22:59Carl Durrell was my receivers coach.
23:03And he said, you know, a lot of people in the building think you've got this great potential.
23:09And he's like, but let me tell you about potential.
23:11It's both a good and bad thing because potential tells you, hmm, you're not there.
23:18You know, you're good enough.
23:19You look like you could be good enough to be there.
23:22But then also, you ain't there yet.
23:24It really tells you about yourself.
23:26So this team with this roster who, you know, I think Joe Shane kind of gets a stay of execution
23:34because, again, we put together, he put together this roster, yes.
23:40But in order for them to lose double digit, have double digit losses means,
23:45I mean, losses after being up double digits means that he put together a roster
23:51that can be up double digits.
23:52So I think that falls more not on the GM, it falls more on the coaching staff than the GM
24:00because Bill Parcells says, well, I buy the groceries and then, you know,
24:05it's up to the coach to make a nice siffole or etouffole.
24:09I can't even think of food right now just because I'm still watching this game.
24:13So, you know, again, it's just one of those things where these close games are great
24:20because we're like, okay, like some of the people in the chat have said, all right,
24:24we got our quarterback, we got this, we got that.
24:27But we're still not there yet for the right now.
24:32Yeah, you look at it, Joe, you got Dart, I mean, they're close to winning these games.
24:37Obviously, they had some of these guys earlier in the year.
24:40But if you have Dart, Scadaboo, Neighbors today, and Kayvon, you win the game.
24:48I forgot about Kayvon didn't play.
24:51Yeah, that's why they talked about it.
24:53That's why Carter was getting, you know, more snaps.
24:57I mean, I guess that's what you could say about your point about Shane getting a stay of execution
25:02is that, you know, he didn't get his team on the field this year because of injuries
25:07because of all the key, you know, you want to call it the three of your top ten
25:13or the top eight skilled position offensive players in Dart, Neighbors, and Scadaboo
25:17gone for the majority of the season.
25:22And they were still in position to win these games.
25:25So maybe you think there is a foundation there and enough young players in those two rookies
25:33that we just talked about, Neighbors, whatever, in his third year.
25:35So I can see why they might give him another year.
25:40I can see why he didn't go with Dayball right now because there is some promise on the roster.
25:46And you're talking about these blown fourth quarter leads, and that is on coaching, generally speaking.
25:52So, yeah, that's the difference.
25:55But, man, it's still two and nine.
25:59Yeah, yeah.
26:00No, I'm with you.
26:01Not too many regimes survive that, and especially, like you said,
26:07what John Mara said after last year, you know, where it felt like he probably –
26:12he certainly thought about moving on.
26:15Maybe he would have rather, but, you know, you can't move on every three years, obviously,
26:20with new coaches and new GMs.
26:21So that's what they're going to have to look at.
26:24They're going to have to – whether it's Shane or whether it's above him, you know,
26:28is this the foundation?
26:29Are these the guys to go forward with, regardless of who the coach is?
26:33Because it's obviously going to be either Kafka or somebody else.
26:37That's why you have to – they'll be watching these games probably even more closely
26:40than the fans will, because they need to see how these guys develop,
26:43even if the games aren't really all that important in the standings.
26:48But do they have the right people in place, whether that's players, coaches, or the GM?
26:53And here's where we are.
26:54November 16th.
26:55Here's where we are, where I don't think not one Giants fan was thinking we would be at at this point,
27:04and we're talking about draft picks again.
27:09Scoop DeWatt says, how many draft picks do the Giants have next year?
27:13We'll have to look that up for you, man.
27:14I know that right now they got like a top five pick, maybe even like a top three pick.
27:18But I love what Hassan says.
27:21No, not this one.
27:24Jim Ramsdale says, hope they take the high draft pick and trade down for more picks.
27:30Need so much help on defense.
27:32And that's what I'm with.
27:33If you got a top three pick and there's some sort of quarterback that some team loves
27:38and wants to move up, if I'm Joe Shane or whomever that GM is, I'm trading back.
27:44I'm getting an interior offensive lineman, and I'm going to get maybe either a corner
27:50or a wide receiver, or maybe even you go some sort of linebacker as well,
27:56because Bobby O'Carake is getting up there.
27:58Michael McFadden, he's really good when he's on the field.
28:02But he's, you know, he gets hurt.
28:04So I think that third pick, you got your quarterback already.
28:07You have a bunch of pass rushers already under contract.
28:12You got the D-line under contract.
28:14You take that third pick and you trade that back to get more.
28:18But the only thing is, it's just like, we're really talking draft picks again at November,
28:24before Thanksgiving.
28:26And I didn't think that.
28:28Like, I didn't think that at all.
28:29And I know a lot of people at the Post that I work with within the video team,
28:33they were calling me a Giants homer and all, because they're like, you know,
28:37I thought they'd be, you know, through eight games.
28:39I was like four and four.
28:40They're like, yeah, right.
28:42But I'm going back and forth with everybody.
28:43And it's like, it's hard to take the emotion away from watching this team.
28:50But sometimes it's just like you have to watch with no emotion,
28:53because it continues to be a letdown.
28:56And especially with Peter Ward says defense has been a liability this year.
29:00You thought they'd be four and four with Russell Wilson, a quarterback,
29:04or you just thought they'd figure out a way to get there with Russ
29:07and then dart afterwards?
29:08I thought they'd be four and four, and they would have made the change to dart
29:14because they were winning with the defense.
29:17They were winning despite of Russ.
29:20So I thought it was like, okay, we've got a strong enough defense
29:24for the rookie quarterback to come in.
29:27Offensive line, I thought they've been improved.
29:30They've looked better.
29:31Andrew Thomas, he still looks good.
29:34The running game would have been there.
29:36Neighbors and these guys,
29:37I thought Slayton was going to have a lot better year
29:39than what he was having right now.
29:41But, yeah, I thought they were going to be at least four and four,
29:44and then they were going to make that move because Russ was –
29:48Kind of like what they did with Eli, right?
29:50Yeah.
29:51Kurt Warner playing the first nine games or whatever it was that year
29:54and then going to Eli even when they were –
29:57so they weren't bad that year, but they weren't going to win with Warner,
30:01so then go to the young guy.
30:03Okay, I could see that.
30:04Yeah.
30:04Yeah, because the defense was supposed to be better.
30:08No one expected this kind of a –
30:11Absolutely not.
30:12For the defense all year.
30:13Absolutely not.
30:15Go ahead, close this out, Dan.
30:16Go ahead, close this out.
30:17It's just another frustrating week for the Giants,
30:20and I think there's – I guess Dart might play next week.
30:26If he does, then you have a reason to watch because he's fun to watch.
30:31You've got to watch him develop, see what he can do.
30:34But you're also probably torn because of this draft pick situation
30:38that you almost want them to go 2-15 now because you can get one of those top three picks,
30:45and whether you keep the pick or you trade it down because, like, you know,
30:49you went through the whole laundry list, the guys that they need.
30:51It's almost every position that they could use help.
30:57So, yeah, you take one of those top two, top four picks, and you collect picks.
31:02But it's just depressing to talk about it before Thanksgiving that you know another year
31:07with no playoffs, whatever that is now, eight out of the last nine years, no playoffs.
31:13And this week you can't even watch Jackson Dart develop because he's out with the concussion,
31:18which is another concern because you just – you don't know.
31:22You think you have your quarterback in the future,
31:24and there's a great reason to think that you do.
31:27But to have whatever it is, three or four concussion checks already,
31:32and then one actual concussion, and he's only played seven games,
31:36you know, that's something that you're going to hold your breath about for quite a while.
31:40You know, is he going to turn into Tua, or is he going to be able to be, you know,
31:46smarter about how he runs the ball?
31:48I know there was talk of that today about how they're going to try to get him
31:52to be a little bit safer and smarter about how he does these runs.
31:57So, yeah, it's just another half of a season that's kind of going to be hard to watch.
32:05You're going to be – you're going to have to talk yourself into why you're watching
32:07and then just hoping for the best and pay attention to how Mike Kafka does.
32:14But, yeah, like they're going to move on to another coach.
32:17You know, since they pushed Tom Coughlin out the door, it's just been a mess of coaches
32:23and GMs that have not distinguished themselves in any way.
32:26And that's a long time of bad football with just one exception.
32:32So, yeah, today was just another bad day in a laundry list of bad days
32:38over the last decade or so.
32:40So I feel for the Giant fans because, you know,
32:43I know that MetLife is filled with Packer fans today and it should have been a great day
32:48for MetLife Stadium, you know, a sunny November day.
32:55You got a decent team, hopefully.
32:58You're running the ball like the old days and it just doesn't work out.
33:04And it's the same story all too often.
33:07Yeah, shout out to the Giants fans for coming today.
33:09I thought the Packers were going to – the fan base was going to try and take over.
33:13But, you know, they matched – every Go Pack Go was matched with the Go Big Blue.
33:17And they stayed.
33:18You know, they gave them a reason to stay, you know, at the end of the game.
33:22So that's a reason why I like the close games.
33:26You know, I'll take the losing with the close games because once you see the fans
33:31turn their backs on you, meaning turn and head to the exits,
33:35that's when you know that something bad is going to happen
33:39or you really are a bad football team.
33:42But they were able to hang in there.
33:44Shout out to the fans that, you know, hanging out with today
33:47throughout the tailgates and inside the stadium.
33:50So they're about to kick me up out of the performance locker room.
33:53They got to go ahead – I guess go ahead and close this down.
33:56So thank you guys for hanging out with us.
33:59As always, we love the engagement.
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34:06Thank you guys for watching Blue Rush.
34:08He's Dan Martin.
34:09I'm Brendan London.
34:10We'll see you guys Thursday for the Blue Rush pregame show.
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