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00:00Tonight, a strange discovery in the New Mexico desert
00:06sparks a mystery that's endured for nearly 80 years.
00:10We know something crashed in that sheet build on Roswell in 1947.
00:15But the parts of the puzzle just don't add up.
00:18I-beams, silken strands of fiber optics,
00:22no one is able to identify this strange material.
00:27This was a 200-yard swath of debris,
00:30which, when it was all gathered up, only weighed five pounds.
00:35How is that possible?
00:37The deeper researchers dig into what witnesses saw,
00:40the more questions are raised.
00:43Were they actual aliens or human guinea pigs?
00:47Whether people are skeptics or believers, something crashed.
00:51But the question is what?
00:52We know that there was a government cover-up
00:55because the government admitted as such.
00:58But we don't even know if that's the whole story.
01:01Now, we'll explore the top theories
01:04surrounding one of America's most infamous incidents.
01:08This would possibly explain
01:10all the different elements of the Roswell crash.
01:13Some people saw bodies, some people didn't.
01:16By now, there's so much speculation.
01:19We don't know.
01:20And we may never know.
01:22What really fell out of the sky in 1947 in Roswell?
01:28June 14, 1947, 80 miles northwest of Roswell, New Mexico,
01:48a sheep rancher named Mac Brazel comes across something highly unusual.
01:53He was tending to some of the sheep,
01:57and he noticed that they wouldn't cross a particular field.
02:02So he sets out and explores and finds this debris field
02:08in the middle of nowhere.
02:10It looks like something was moving at a high speed
02:14and crash-landed and just spread out there for 200 yards.
02:20Given the remote nature of this site,
02:23the logical conclusion must be that this thing
02:26could only have come from the sky.
02:29He wants to bring it in and turn it over to some authorities,
02:32out of concern that it might be some form of aviation accident.
02:36But Brazel's trip to Roswell is delayed,
02:39and by the time he reaches the sheriff's office with the crash debris,
02:43two other Roswell residents have also witnessed something they can't explain.
02:48On July 2, Dan Wilmot is sitting on his porch with his wife, Mary Grace,
02:57and suddenly they see this strange object in the sky.
03:02It's oval-shaped, it's very brightly illuminated,
03:07as if it's got its own internal light source,
03:10and there's virtually no sound.
03:14The object was about 10 to 20 feet in diameter.
03:17He thinks it was moving around 400 to 500 miles per hour,
03:20and they observe it for about a minute, and then it goes away.
03:24After Brazel delivers the material,
03:27the concerned sheriff immediately calls the nearby army airfield.
03:32The Roswell crash took place against the backdrop
03:36of the modern flying saucer phenomenon.
03:42This all started on June 24, 1947,
03:46with Kenneth Arnold, a pilot, flying a light aircraft.
03:51He claims that he has seen nine disc-shaped aircraft flying in formation near Mount Rainier,
03:59flying at 1,200 miles an hour, which is three times as fast as the fastest aircraft,
04:06and the media really takes this up.
04:08Newspapers quickly dub the objects flying discs or flying saucers.
04:13After his report becomes publicized, it inspires other people to report that they have also seen bizarre phenomena in the skies,
04:25and we are in the midst of flying saucer fever.
04:28In that period between June and July 1947, there are hundreds of people who report seeing flying saucers in the sky.
04:38Banner headlines day after day through every news source around the country.
04:44What are these flying saucers? Where are they from?
04:48But what Brazel discovered is an altogether different story.
04:53It's nothing fleeting in the nighttime sky.
04:57It's something recovered.
04:59It's something that had crashed.
05:01It escalates the whole situation to a completely different level.
05:07The army takes this extremely seriously, and they actually send one of their brightest and best,
05:15the base intelligence officer, Jesse Marcel, out to investigate.
05:22They know that whatever it is, it's not a US military aircraft crash.
05:29So now the situation is this.
05:31If it's not the US military, who or what is it?
05:36On July 8, 1947, the Roswell Army Airfield puts out a press release saying that they have found pieces of a flying saucer.
05:46We've had two weeks of flying saucer fever, and now the US military have one of these things.
05:52The press release goes out, and it's near hysteria.
05:55The public takes it a lot more seriously than could have possibly been expected.
06:01Later that day, Major Marcel flies the debris to Texas for further examination.
06:09They arrive in Fort Worth.
06:11General Roger Ramey, head of the 8th Air Force at Carswell Army Airfield, wants to have a press conference.
06:20Then something really weird happens.
06:23Within 24 hours of telling the world that the US military has recovered a flying saucer, they flip the narrative.
06:31General Ramey announces to the press, it was all a mistake, it was all a overreaction.
06:43It's nothing more than a very standard weather balloon with a radar reflector kite.
06:48To help alleviate concerns from the public, they release a photo with Major Marcel posing with what is said to be debris from this weather balloon.
06:59The cover story was totally believed.
07:03Roswell just disappears from the narrative for 30 years.
07:08All is quiet until 1978, when Major Jesse Marcel opens the floodgates on Roswell witness statements.
07:18Marcel is 71 years old.
07:20He's retired from the military.
07:22But after 30 years, he finally decides that it's time to go public with this secret that he's been hanging onto for all this time.
07:31Jesse Marcel does an interview with astronomer Stanton Friedman, during which he confesses that he was told to stick to the story that this is a weather balloon and nothing else.
07:46Marcel claims those were not actually all of the materials that he had recovered from the site near Roswell.
07:52There's much more debris that's not in the photos.
07:56And he describes the material that he found as being not of this earth.
08:06There are silken strands like microfilament fishing lines.
08:10There are I-beam structures of a pinkish purplish hue with strange symbols that run the length of each piece.
08:19And then Marcel describes the most amazing material of all.
08:25Paper-thin, metal-like material, practically weightless in your hands.
08:31This material you can crush, you can fold, you can crease.
08:37And each and every time it assumes its original shape and size.
08:43Today we call this type of alloy a shape memory alloy.
08:48Shape memory alloys weren't widely manufactured until the 1960s though, and the crash was in 1947.
08:55It's easy to see why people would believe Marcel.
08:59He's a credible source, he's a former intelligence officer, and he is now saying that what the government said is not true.
09:06And this really is the beginning of this idea that there really might be a massive government cover-up.
09:13After speaking with Marcel, Friedman begins collecting dozens of other witness accounts from Roswell that describe a second crash and a massive cover-up of who was in it.
09:28It's one thing to hear Jesse Marcel say that it wasn't a weather balloon and that whatever fell out of the sky came from outer space.
09:37But these are witnesses who are claiming to have seen something that wasn't even human.
09:44The same day that Jesse Marcel came back with the debris from the ranch, a local mortician, Glenn Dennis, also gets drawn into a very weird part of the story.
09:58Because as well as being a mortician, he sometimes drives an ambulance.
10:03He was delivering an injured person to the airfield when he witnesses the arrival of these materials and he also sees this beam with purple and pink hieroglyphic writing on it.
10:17And he says because of his work in the local funeral home, he is asked, do you have a number of child-sized caskets?
10:28And, of course, he's horrified.
10:32And only later do people start to put this together and say, well, wait a minute.
10:38Maybe it wasn't dead kids, but dead aliens.
10:43One of the witnesses who comes forward all these 40 years later has some details and evidence of a second crash site near Roswell.
10:59A crew chief with the Roswell Fire Department named Dan Dwyer comes forward and he wants to talk about the crash that he'd heard about on the plains of San Augustine.
11:09He says that he and another fireman go to the site, but when they get there, they find that there's a government recovery effort taking place.
11:18Well, if this is just a regular crash, why is the government involved?
11:23Dwyer claims to have witnessed essentially the collection of alien bodies.
11:28He says there were two of them on stretchers inside mortuary bags and a third one that appeared to be severely injured.
11:35Dwyer is not the only person who reports bodies at this crash site.
11:41An Air Force sergeant named Melvin Brown claims that he was sent there to guard the crash site.
11:47While he's there, he claims that he sees two alien bodies.
11:51Dennis, Dwyer, and Brown aren't the only ones.
11:56There are many more witnesses who are claiming they saw something now, whether it's debris or bodies or lights in the sky.
12:03Whatever crashed in Roswell that night led to people insisting that they saw something extremely unusual.
12:11When you take into account all of these eyewitness testimonies and people seeing these strange things,
12:18it's easy to see why this flying saucer theory might endure.
12:25We may never know what happened, but we have credible witnesses who have seen things that are difficult to explain
12:32and make it hard for the theory of the weather balloon to really hold up.
12:39Despite a flurry of additional eyewitness accounts in the 1970s and 80s detailing new theories on what really happened at Roswell,
12:51the Air Force consistently maintains that what crashed was only a weather balloon.
12:57Part of the reason they stick with that story is the story's working fine.
13:01With the exception of arguably a niche community, there's been no one really challenging the official narrative.
13:09Finally, in 1993, a congressman from New Mexico, Stephen Schiff, starts to pressure the federal government to release more information.
13:17In 1995, the government releases the Roswell Report, Fact vs. Fiction.
13:25It includes a shocking new revelation.
13:28What crashed actually belonged to a classified military program called Project Mogul.
13:34The Air Force said we were keeping a secret from people, but the secret we were keeping wasn't aliens.
13:41It was a spy program, highly classified.
13:50In 1947, the United States is the only nuclear power on Earth.
13:54It's very clear to the Americans, though, that the Soviets desperately want to develop their own atomic weapon.
14:01But we don't have a good way of knowing how well the Soviets are doing in that pursuit.
14:07Project Mogul is spearheaded by Maurice Ewing, a U.S. geophysicist, and is basically this operation by the U.S. government to develop spy balloons to sense the detonations of atomic weaponry all the way around the globe by the Soviet Union.
14:26The idea is to put microphones on weather balloons, send them to this high altitude, so if a particular nuclear blast goes off and three of these microphones receive that signal, they can triangulate back to its original source.
14:41This is what makes a high altitude balloon such an effective tool here because it can float, remain steady, and be in the air for a really long time.
14:53Some of these weather balloons associated with Project Mogul are enormous.
14:57They're 400 to 500 feet in diameter.
15:00They're built to hover in place, and they fly at 100,000 to 200,000 feet.
15:07They have to be able to carry 500 pounds worth of equipment.
15:12They have to be both lightweight and really strong, so they need to be made of really, really advanced composite materials.
15:20They also have metallic substances that are very light reflective, so they might appear to glow.
15:25Based on the shape, the dimension, and the behavior of the Project Mogul balloons,
15:32you can see why somebody might conclude that these objects are flying saucers.
15:38Between 1947 and 1949, Project Mogul conducts a total of 110 top-secret research flights.
15:47Most of these tests are happening initially on the East Coast, but there's too much commercial traffic,
15:53so they decide to launch these balloons instead from Alamogordo Air Base
15:59in the Tularosa Basin in southern New Mexico.
16:03According to declassified documents about Project Mogul,
16:07the first flight launched from Alamogordo goes as far as Arabella, New Mexico.
16:14Supposedly, on June 4, 1947, it came smashing down to Earth
16:20with all of its radar reflection materials and other sensors.
16:24Looking back at the old photos, we see what looks like radar reflectors.
16:29We see what looks like shredded polyethylene plastics.
16:32The average person in 1947 wouldn't know anything about that.
16:36It doesn't really look like parts of a terrestrial aircraft,
16:40and so they're fairly certain of what it's not.
16:42But that doesn't mean that they actually recognize what it is.
16:45Even the highly trained people like Jesse Marcel wouldn't recognize all of this material.
16:52So they'd be saying, yeah, look, I know what a weather balloon looks like,
16:56and this ain't it.
16:58The report also has an explanation for the purple hieroglyphics described by witnesses.
17:04The engineers that cobbled together some of the early balloons for Project Mogul
17:09had to use whatever materials they had available.
17:11Despite this being a highly classified program,
17:14this was still the post-war period.
17:17There were some shortages.
17:19Occasionally, even the military had to just make do.
17:22And apparently, they used some commercially available adhesive tape.
17:28The tape that they're using is actually just some leftovers
17:31that were unsold from a children's toy company.
17:34It's designed to attract a child's attention.
17:36It's just covered with colorful shapes in pink and purple.
17:41This tape is what the government explains as the source of those eyewitness reports
17:48of the purple and pink hieroglyphics on the metal beam.
17:52By 1949, two years after Roswell, Project Mogul is completely shut down.
17:59For a number of reasons, Project Mogul was terminated in 1949.
18:05Cost, security, practical concerns.
18:09The most obvious of which was that by that time,
18:13the Soviets had detonated their own bomb.
18:16So we know they have it, and there was no longer any need to listen for it.
18:21Despite the declassification of these documents,
18:24rumors persist that the government is not being entirely transparent.
18:30The government's explanation of Project Mogul seems to make sense,
18:34and it seems to be consistent with what people saw,
18:36except that there's all these witnesses who claim that they saw bodies.
18:40There's nothing in Project Mogul that included bodies.
18:43So what is the story there?
18:46In the 1990s, five decades after the riots,
18:50the Roswell crash first made headlines in 1947,
18:54the public's demand for answers reaches a fever pitch.
18:58By the 1990s, Americans have been through Watergate,
19:02Iran-Contra, and the Vietnam War.
19:05And Americans realize that the federal government,
19:08and particularly the U.S. military,
19:11is keeping a lot of secrets.
19:13And it makes sense that the Project Mogul disclosure by the U.S. government
19:18is met with some skepticism because UFOs, alien abductions,
19:23visits from another planet, this was all in the zeitgeist,
19:27and it was reflected by the movies and TV shows that we were watching.
19:32We've got Star Wars, Independence Day, and Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
19:36Aliens were at the top of people's minds.
19:39And a lot of Americans still genuinely believe that aliens landed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
19:48It hasn't gone away.
19:51Roswell continues to grow in relevance,
19:55and there's more and more talk about the bodies.
19:59The Pentagon is compelled to come up with an explanation
20:05because balloons don't have pilots.
20:09Two years after the report revealing Project Mogul,
20:13the government offers a new explanation.
20:16In 1997, the Air Force puts out its second study called
20:21The Roswell Report Case Closed.
20:241997 is the 50th anniversary of the Roswell incident,
20:30and, of course, the Pentagon has to go and spoil the party.
20:34First, they double down on Project Mogul,
20:37but then they address the issue of the bodies,
20:40and they say it's all due to a program called Project High Dive.
20:46After World War II, plane technology revolutionized,
20:50and they began flying faster and higher than anyone had ever thought possible.
20:54And the Air Force wondered,
20:56if our pilots have to eject at its very high altitude,
21:00could they survive a landing?
21:02So hundreds of mannequins are deployed from the atmosphere
21:06and studied as they tumble back towards Earth.
21:15There are at least 67 of these high dive mannequin drops
21:21in the eastern New Mexico area.
21:23Some of them begin to spin at very high rates,
21:27and that sends them off course,
21:29and some of them actually land in civilian areas.
21:31The Air Force concludes the most likely explanation for people claiming to have seen dead alien bodies
21:38was that it's possible that they actually had come across the aftermath of a high altitude situation
21:44where something went wrong and the experiment came plunging back to Earth.
21:49So Project High Dive regularly sent scientists and soldiers to recover these mannequins,
21:55regardless of where they fell, even in the most remote places.
21:58So the people that are coming forward and claiming to have witnessed soldiers with alien bodies
22:03might in fact have just simply seen one of these recovery efforts.
22:07Given the velocity with which these mannequins hit the ground,
22:11you can see why witnesses might have understood them to be small alien bodies,
22:18because they likely shattered and were mangled upon impact.
22:22Though this theory provides one explanation, it raises new questions.
22:28At the press conference in which the Air Force is unveiling this report,
22:33the media points out that the report explicitly says that Project High Dive occurred in the 1950s,
22:42while the Roswell events happened a couple of years before that in 1947.
22:48Faced with this apparent contradiction,
22:50the Air Force presents an idea that is basically in the heads of the witnesses.
22:55They put forward what is known as time compression.
22:58Time compression is when people are remembering important events at a distance of many decades.
23:04They may conflate two important events and remember them as though they happened at the same time.
23:11However, it seems unusual that people would have compressed together memories of such import.
23:20It's possible. It's possible. But it also kind of strains credibility.
23:24And that caused a lot of UFO researchers to be absolutely convinced this was just another government cover-up.
23:31Despite what the Air Force is saying, many of these Roswell witnesses stand by their memories.
23:38So if we believe that they saw actual bodies, where did they come from?
23:43It may be that there is a darker explanation connected to some of the phenomena associated with Roswell.
23:50There are still questions that remain unanswered.
23:54By the end of the 1990s, the United States military had admitted that its initial statement about the Roswell crash was intentionally misleading and has offered two very different explanations for what witnesses claim they saw in 1947.
24:10But in 2000, a Polish journalist research uncovers a shocking new possibility for what actually fell out of the sky in Roswell.
24:20We still haven't got all the answers. It's still a mystery.
24:25But now there's a new theory which suggests that the reason the government is covering all this up is because it involves Nazi technology.
24:36There are a lot of people that are convinced that what was actually witnessed in the American Southwest were secret Nazi programs.
24:44People forget that in many areas, Nazi technology was actually much more advanced than Allied technology.
24:55The Nazis developed the first operational jet fighter.
24:59The Nazi V1, and in particular the V2, were super weapons developed by Wernher von Braun.
25:09The Allies were desperate to get their hands on von Braun and all the other people who worked with him.
25:17Following World War II, the United States government started Operation Paperclip, which brought around 1,500 German scientists to the United States and put them to work developing all kinds of technology for the American military.
25:35And Paperclip was not just highly classified but very sensitive because, of course, we just had the Nuremberg trials.
25:44We just had the footage of the concentration camps and people were outraged bringing some of these Nazi scientists over and putting them on the payroll.
25:55That would not have played well with the U.S. public.
25:59Some people think that the Roswell event is related to early tests of these former Nazi scientists and engineers performing work in the U.S.
26:15In 2000, the Polish journalist Igor Witkowski publishes a book about the research and development of a particular type of German aircraft known as Die Glocka.
26:27This top-secret German aeronautical program called Die Glock, or the Bell, is essentially a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft.
26:35The idea is to have a jet engine that effectively fires straight down, providing lift, kind of like a rocket, but with an air-breathing jet engine instead.
26:45By changing the direction of the vanes within the aircraft, you would be able to then move it laterally throughout the sky.
26:52Any advanced Nazi rocket technology would have been developed by Wernher von Braun.
26:59Even though the Nazis never unleashed Die Glocka on the battlefield, the Allies specifically pick up von Braun so that he can bring his designs with him to an Army research base at White Sands, New Mexico.
27:11The book describes this incredible machine as a glowing, bell-shaped object, not too dissimilar from the shape of a flying saucer.
27:22The similarities in shape, size, color, and movement between Witkowski's description of Die Glocka and other witness reports lead to the theory that von Braun is actually developing and testing a prototype of Die Glocka for the U.S. military in 1947.
27:38Witkowski claimed that the propulsion system for the belt was something called Xerum 525.
27:45This is apparently a purple fluid that's radioactive and or poisonous.
27:53The night of the Roswell incident, a number of eyewitnesses report that the objects they saw in the sky did glow with a kind of blue-violet glow, which is the color of the Xerum 525 gas.
28:07So, according to this theory, it was flown from White Sands, and it fell apart during the test, and they found a material at Roswell on the Foster Ranch.
28:18Allegedly, the bodies of the aliens that were found there were actually human bodies, the bodies of test pilots who were selected for their small size in order to fit into the prototype.
28:30To keep the crash of a Nazi-designed superweapon a secret, they would need to pretty quickly figure out a cover story.
28:38Given the fact that there was this flying saucer alien craze going on at the time, the government would have thought that, hey, we could divert your attention away from what's really going on, and people could grab a hold to this ridiculous theory of aliens.
28:53According to this theory, the story was shared, however, without the approval of higher-ranked officials, and so it had to be quickly retracted, and that's why the story of the weather balloon was substituted for it instead.
29:08When Project Paperclip was finally declassified, however, there is no mention of the bell or of the testing of these propulsion systems.
29:17So, either it never really happened, or it was completely covered up.
29:23In 2011, Pulitzer Prize-nominated journalist Annie Jacobson proposes a new theory about the Roswell crash.
29:36Annie Jacobson writes a book contending that what crashed in that field in Roswell was not, in fact, an alien spacecraft, but a Soviet aircraft.
29:50In 1947, the United States is the only nation on Earth that has the bomb.
29:56The Soviets are desperate to catch up and need to do something to maybe close the gap.
30:03Jacobson's theory is that the Soviets devised a plan to make the Americans think that they're under attack.
30:09Two German aerospace engineers, the Horton brothers, had been part of a program in Nazi Germany to try to create what we would refer to as a flying wing.
30:24To the outside observer, it looks kind of like a flat, almost oblong shape.
30:30What the flying wing does is tries to extend the range of an aircraft.
30:36The Germans were convinced that if American cities were threatened by German attack, then the Americans would not have the stomach to continue the fight.
30:45Jacobson argues that in the years after the war, the Horton brothers went to the Soviet Union and began to design new technology and work on projects for Joseph Stalin.
31:00The brothers come up with this disc-shaped craft based on the plans for their flying wing that is made of high-tech materials that's really good at evading radar detection.
31:11According to Jacobson's theory, Joseph Stalin saw another potential use for this aircraft.
31:18They want to develop nuclear technology of their own so that they can counter American world domination.
31:25This plot is meant to, as the theory goes, buy Joseph Stalin more time and Russian scientists more time to develop their atomic weapons.
31:36Stalin comes up with this plan to distract the US military by staging this fake invasion.
31:43Americans will be so freaked out and disturbed by the idea of a UFO that it will distract the American people, the American government, and stop them from continuing on with their atomic program.
31:58There is precedence for pandemonium being spurred by a supposed alien invasion.
32:04In 1938, there was a radio reading of Orson Welles' The War of the Worlds, which was so convincing that people actually thought we were being invaded by aliens.
32:15Joseph Stalin is pretty convinced that the American public is gullible, and he's willing to authorize even the most harebrained schemes to try to convince the Americans of the possibility of invasion from outer space.
32:30As the theory goes, in the first week of July 1947, Stalin orders the flying disk to be flown into US airspace.
32:39They decide that they're going to stage this incident in the southwestern part of the United States because there are a lot of bases in that area.
32:48White Sands, Area 51, Roswell, these are all places where military technology was being developed and where the Soviets hoped that they could distract Americans from that technology.
33:00We don't know how this flying disk, if it was a Soviet flying disk, crashed.
33:07Was it shot down? Did it crash of its own accord?
33:11But however it happened, the theory is that it came down at Roswell.
33:17And what's funny about this is that if Jacobson's theory is correct, then the original story put out by the military saying that it was a flying disk or flying saucer that was recovered is pretty much the true story.
33:29Annie Jacobson's theory is this was all designed to sow as much confusion as possible.
33:36But the military changed their story within 24 hours.
33:41And this second official explanation immediately scuppered Stalin's plan because if it's a weather balloon, clearly there's going to be no panic.
33:50Now, to close that nuclear gap, Stalin's best bet then becomes putting all the resources into developing the bomb, which the Soviet Union actually does in 1949.
34:05In 2017, an unexpected new theory about the Roswell crash emerges, one that asks just how far the US government might go to keep its edge in the Cold War.
34:22After World War Two, the United States government recognizes this need to keep tabs on the Soviet Union.
34:30And the best way to do that is to develop high altitude reconnaissance aircraft.
34:37There is no such thing as artificial satellites in 1947.
34:42So what they needed was aircraft that can fly over enemy defenses.
34:47It became strategically imperative for the United States to fly reconnaissance aircraft at ever higher altitudes.
34:56Prior to 1947, the highest altitude anyone had ever flown at in a fixed wing aircraft was 58,000 feet.
35:05Mount Everest is 29,000 feet high, and most commercial aircraft fly at 36,000 feet.
35:13You are talking significantly above any of that.
35:17And the higher you go, the density of the atmosphere falls off exponentially, so there's less and less oxygen available.
35:24So that creates all kinds of challenges for the pilots.
35:28A lot of pilots pass out, lose consciousness, sometimes for minutes at a time.
35:33The US government was going to have to run a lot of tests on how that would be possible.
35:37There is a theory that the United States Air Force was conducting human experiments using individuals who would not be missed by society.
35:50In 2017, British researcher Nick Redfern makes a connection between these high altitude weather balloons that were used for these experiments and what fell out of the sky at Roswell.
36:00So it's Nick Redfern's contention that the Air Force is going to use these modified weather balloons to start testing how the body responds to such extremely high altitude.
36:14According to Redfern's theory, the people that were being used in these tests were pulled from asylums, prisons, and places where no one would notice and no one would complain about them being missing.
36:29Redfern hypothesizes that they attach these gondolas to the balloon and they put people in the gondola whom they are forcing to engage in this experiment.
36:43In the case of the Roswell crash, one of these balloons separated from the gondola and the balloon would have crashed in one place, the gondola with the bodies of the victims in another place.
36:55This would possibly explain all the different elements of the Roswell crash. Some people saw bodies, some people didn't, some people saw debris at this site and others at a site much further away.
37:09You have two different crashes of two very different things.
37:14According to Redfern, one of the individuals that he interviewed worked at Fort Stanton about 30 miles away from Roswell and claimed to have been part of a recovery effort rushing a grievously injured individual to the base facilities.
37:28One person was treated for injuries but apparently died a week or so later. Is this where we have the story of the Roswell survivor?
37:39Redfern's theory has some historic plausibility because there was a project where they did experiments on people. The American government conducted the famous Tuskegee experiment where men who were tested to have syphilis were monitored instead of being cured. They were used as test subjects.
37:57By the time of the Roswell crash, the world is hearing these stories of concentration camp victims being experimented on. And the idea that you could experiment on people who weren't giving their consent was condemned and banned by the Nuremberg Code.
38:16Certainly the US wouldn't want to be seen as engaging in the same behavior as the Nazis.
38:23Redfern alleges a massive government cover up. He claims that government functionaries destroyed all of the records and cremated the bodies as a means of covering up the horrible research that was being carried out.
38:36Like many of the other theories around Roswell, this one only raises more questions.
38:43They would have used adults in their tests, but people who saw the bodies claimed that they were child-sized. So that doesn't square with Redfern's theory.
38:52Whatever we believe, whether people are skeptics or believers, Roswell is real. Something crashed. But the question is what? It's not necessarily, as the military would like to say on Roswell, case closed.
39:06Today, the town of Roswell has become a thriving tourist destination for UFO fanatics. But that's only one of the possible explanations for what happened at Foster Ranch over 80 miles away.
39:23Whether this was the crash site of a top secret test flight, a Cold War scheme, or something truly unearthly, most of the eyewitnesses have long since passed away, and the search for answers continues.
39:38I'm Laurence Fishburne. Thank you for watching History's Greatest Mysteries.
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