Electric firm exec talks about power protection systems in buildings, homes

The Manila Times

Electric firm exec talks about power protection systems in buildings, homes  Butz Bartolome talks with Robby Anonas Jr., a representative from Fujihaya Electric Corporation, about the importance of power protection systems in buildings and infrastructure. Robby explains how their company plays a key role in bringing high-voltage electricity from power companies down to safe levels (from 115,000 volts to 220 volts) for use in homes, buildings, and commercial spaces. This involves using transformers, switchgears, breakers, and other power control equipment. He also shares insights on his transition from corporate work (Meralco, PLDT) to being a professor at the University of Asia and the Pacific (UA&P), handling the Entrepreneurial Management Program, where students are required to start and operate a real business while in school; and his belief in the value of teaching, mentorship, self-awareness, and real-world learning over traditional retirement.   Subscribe to The Manila Times Channel - https://tmt.ph/YTSubscribe   Visit our website at https://www.manilatimes.net   Subscribe to Business Franchise Guru: https://www.youtube.com/@BusinessFranchiseGuru   Follow us:  Facebook - https://tmt.ph/facebook  Instagram - https://tmt.ph/instagram  Twitter - https://tmt.ph/twitter  DailyMotion - https://tmt.ph/dailymotion    Subscribe to our Digital Edition - https://tmt.ph/digital  Sign up to our newsletters: https://tmt.ph/newsletters  Check out our Podcasts:  Spotify - https://tmt.ph/spotify  Apple Podcasts - https://tmt.ph/applepodcasts  Amazon Music - https://tmt.ph/amazonmusic  Deezer: https://tmt.ph/deezer  Stitcher: https://tmt.ph/stitcher Tune In: https://tmt.ph/tunein   #themanilatimes  #philippines #entrepreneur

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00:00Good morning, good afternoon.

00:27Again, this is Sunday morning.

00:29Again, it's a very, very enlightening morning.

00:32And this is Butch Bartolomeo, the Business Mentor Blog over Manila Times.

00:37Again, it's a very, very good Sunday.

00:39And we have a very good, exciting guest who will tell you a lot of stories,

00:44both personal as well as his role in making our buildings that safe.

00:51Did you know that the buildings pala, ladies and gentlemen,

00:55it's not just the design, it's not just the architecture.

00:58It is how the, you know, all the wires, they call themselves as a panel.

01:04You know, you can have the best design,

01:07but when it comes to electricity, eh, yun na.

01:11So to tell us more about it, let me introduce to you the man behind, no?

01:17Mr. Roberto Fausto Anonas Jr. or Robby.

01:23Good afternoon, good Sunday to you.

01:25Robby, how are you today?

01:27Thank you, Butch, for having me.

01:30Yes, I'm Robby Anonas.

01:32I'm with Fujihaya Electric Corporation.

01:35I haven't been with this corporation for long,

01:39but I know enough about it to be able to share with you

01:43a lot of experiences and knowledge about power protection.

01:50Okay.

01:51You know, yeah, that's very true, Robby, you know,

01:54because very important now is the way our electricity is behaving

01:59in the past few months, you know, the fluctuation.

02:02So how does Fujihaya work in the building administration,

02:08the construction?

02:09Okay.

02:10We consider ourselves the low man and the totem pole

02:15of any construction business, no?

02:19So if you imagine a business, if you imagine a building

02:22or a mixed-use development like the Ayala Malls

02:28and things like that, the power company would supply you

02:32with about 115,000 volts, and it is our job to create

02:37the power protection equipment to bring those 115,000 volts

02:43down to 220 so that it can be used safely

02:48and protects the appliances that you buy,

02:53the things that you put that you need in the houses

02:56and all that, you know?

02:57So same thing in mixed-use in condominiums and all that.

03:04Yes, we need power protection.

03:08And what are these things?

03:09These are transformers.

03:11These are switch gears, medium-voltage switch gears,

03:15low-voltage switch gears, and then all the way

03:18so that it can be distributed into a building.

03:23So that's how, but imagine, can you imagine, 115,000-plus volts

03:30from the grid, from Miralco, will supply that building

03:35and it's brought down to 200.

03:39In industrial, how do you distribute that?

03:42I mean, do you work closely hand-in-hand with the design,

03:47the working team, and everything?

03:49Yeah, there will be a designer, a professional electrical engineer

03:54that will do the basic design.

03:56He will create a single-line diagram

04:00that will depict, so to speak,

04:06how his design will protect the building's occupants

04:13and its appliances and equipment inside, no?

04:17So he will calculate the type of loads

04:21that these buildings will need,

04:25and he will project this, he will forecast this

04:27for maybe a couple of years, 10 years,

04:30until that building is fully occupied.

04:34And based on that forecast,

04:36he will make this single-line diagram.

04:40And in the single-line diagram,

04:41there will be all the breakers,

04:43there will be all the transformers,

04:45there will be all sorts of electrical equipment

04:48that will be used to accomplish the design

04:53that he created.

04:56And it is our job to follow this design

05:00as closely as possible.

05:04And along the way,

05:06there may be some changes

05:08because there might be some things

05:11that will be needed,

05:13added in the forecast and all that.

05:16And so I would say,

05:18just to give you an idea of how long it will take,

05:23the studies, the drawings,

05:25the shop drawings back and forth,

05:27maybe, I'd say maybe about three months,

05:31and then another,

05:33maybe another 16 weeks

05:35before we're able to produce

05:38the whole system,

05:43the power system.

05:45And Panyon,

05:48is it projected, for example,

05:50how long the lifespan of the building?

05:52Like I said,

05:54there are current electricity requirements.

05:57Sometimes they update it.

05:59Sometimes the wires probably may be affected.

06:03How is this done?

06:05Well,

06:06you need to have periodic maintenance.

06:11That is needed.

06:13So normally,

06:15all of these important equipment breakers

06:18and things like that,

06:19they would normally come

06:20with about a two-year warranty.

06:22And then beyond that,

06:24beyond that,

06:24you need to hire someone like us

06:27to do the periodic maintenance.

06:30so that your equipment is,

06:34you are assured that your equipment

06:35will be running properly.

06:40I'm sure,

06:41I'm sure you would,

06:42in you,

06:42in your house,

06:43you would have a fuse box,

06:45let's say,

06:45a fuse box with all the breakers there,

06:47if you...

06:48Yeah,

06:48right,

06:49right,

06:49right.

06:50And so,

06:51like in my case,

06:52I got this panel

06:54and it's been there 30 years

06:56and nothing has happened

06:58because the brand

07:01or the breakers that are there

07:04are very durable

07:08and so on.

07:09So there's no...

07:11You're not afraid.

07:13So when something trips,

07:16you have to find out,

07:17for example,

07:18what was the root cause of that trip

07:19before you put the breaker back on?

07:23You know,

07:24that would be the right way.

07:28So that is the same thing

07:32with buildings.

07:34If there is a trip,

07:38yeah,

07:38then the breakers will trip

07:41and then you just wait for a while

07:44and see,

07:45okay,

07:45what happened?

07:46Let's see,

07:47is there anything?

07:48Is there...

07:49Are you smelling something funny

07:50and all that

07:51before you turn back the power back on?

07:56But Bobby,

07:57I remember during the power crisis,

07:59the early times

08:01when we have brownouts left and right

08:02and people are getting stuck

08:04in elevators.

08:05It must be a challenging work for you.

08:08I mean,

08:09I imagine all the panel,

08:11making sure all the panels are working

08:13and even hospitals,

08:15for example,

08:16right?

08:16Yes,

08:17yes.

08:17Especially in surgery,

08:19operating rooms,

08:20no?

08:21Yes.

08:21And then,

08:22split of a second,

08:23they get...

08:24Yes,

08:25that's right.

08:25The thing with this

08:28is the generator,

08:29the standby

08:30power source,

08:32there has to be

08:34like,

08:35for example,

08:35an automatic

08:36transfer switch

08:38and it has to be

08:40very efficient.

08:42Now,

08:42some designers

08:43will require

08:44a split-second switch,

08:46switching,

08:47split-second switching.

08:48So,

08:49let's just assume

08:50that's the case,

08:52no?

08:52And then,

08:53and then,

08:54it takes some time

08:56for the generator

08:57to ramp up

08:58up to

08:59its

09:00most efficient

09:02level

09:03of

09:03operation,

09:05right?

09:06Correct,

09:06correct.

09:07So,

09:07let's just say

09:08maybe,

09:08I don't know,

09:09the switching

09:10and then maybe another

09:11six to ten seconds

09:13before

09:14the generator

09:15kicks in

09:16in full power,

09:19you know,

09:19that kind of thing.

09:20That has to be also

09:21studied by

09:21the designers,

09:24you know,

09:24the designers.

09:25Oh, okay.

09:26So,

09:27yeah,

09:27because,

09:28you know,

09:28I was just over the weekend,

09:29I was in San Jose,

09:30Mindoro,

09:31and

09:31I

09:33was

09:34really surprised,

09:36you know,

09:36in the middle of the night

09:37and all of a sudden,

09:38plop,

09:38you know,

09:39all of a sudden,

09:39brown out.

09:40Then after a few hours,

09:42plop again.

09:43You know,

09:43I was just wondering,

09:45I was wondering,

09:46you know,

09:46it might be,

09:47well,

09:47it's an opportunity

09:48probably for people

09:50like you

09:50to be able

09:51to help out

09:52the community.

09:53But again,

09:53the wear and tear

09:55of equipments,

09:56that's what it's worth

09:57because

09:58the hotel I stayed

10:00had two generators

10:01and apparently

10:02one generator

10:03can't count.

10:04So,

10:05that's what I said,

10:07where is the maintenance?

10:08Because if you're

10:09in the service,

10:10if you're through,

10:11you know,

10:11there are a lot of tourists

10:12now going to that place

10:13and if your service

10:15is poor,

10:17we'll be able

10:17to pay you.

10:20That's true.

10:22You know,

10:22if there are two generators,

10:24there's such a thing

10:25as a synchronizing panel.

10:27That synchronizing panel,

10:28which we also produce,

10:30will regulate

10:31the two generators.

10:33so it will,

10:36there's such a thing

10:37as a modulator,

10:39a regulator,

10:41just to regulate

10:43the power

10:44that's coming in,

10:45what generator

10:46should do more

10:47and what generator

10:48should do less,

10:49that kind of thing.

10:50But in this case,

10:51if there's only one

10:52and there's,

10:54then they have to,

10:56it will be overworked

10:57and you have to be careful

10:58that the generator

10:59will be overworked

11:00and you have to be careful

11:02to, you know,

11:03make sure that

11:04it does not break down.

11:06So someone has to be,

11:07someone has to.

11:08No,

11:08because there was a time,

11:09there was a time

11:11one of the staff

11:12was saying

11:13that the person's

11:14is a duty.

11:15I said,

11:15huh?

11:16There are people

11:16that are a duty

11:17in 12 hours,

11:1812 hours.

11:19I said,

11:20I think that's

11:20a very,

11:21very old way.

11:22I mean,

11:22you have to have,

11:23you have to have,

11:25if you're in business

11:26of hospitality,

11:27hotel,

11:27restaurant,

11:28you might as well

11:29have,

11:30invest on that,

11:31rather than,

11:34like in Boracay,

11:35do you have any clients

11:36in Boracay

11:36that you have gone?

11:38Oh yes,

11:39we've got a number

11:40of hotels

11:43in Boracay

11:46that we supplied.

11:48And again,

11:50the power quality,

11:52the power quality,

11:53important.

11:55It's also

11:55the appliances

11:56that you have

11:59if that's how

12:00what happens

12:02when the power quality

12:05or very poor

12:07power quality.

12:09There's such a thing

12:10as single phasing.

12:11They call it

12:12single phasing.

12:13They're supposed

12:14to be supplying you

12:15with three-phase

12:17electricity

12:18and then suddenly

12:18it's single phasing.

12:20It's easier

12:22than it's easier.

12:24And then

12:25when there's

12:26imported equipment,

12:27I'm sure

12:28a lot of people

12:29would import

12:29equipment,

12:30appliances,

12:31and all of a sudden.

12:32Like UPS.

12:33There was a time,

12:34Robbie,

12:35everybody was

12:36sending UPS,

12:37Interruptible

12:40Power Supply.

12:41These are big,

12:42you know,

12:43mga malalaki,

12:44or computers,

12:45or offices.

12:45But now,

12:46it looks like

12:47is there still

12:48a market

12:48or is there

12:49a market

12:50for that now?

12:51Yes.

12:52Ang laki pa rin

12:53ng market na yan.

12:54You know why?

12:55Data centers.

12:57Okay,

12:57data centers,

12:58BPS.

12:59Okay?

12:59Yes, yes.

13:00So remember,

13:02pag nag-brown out,

13:05papasok ang UPS

13:06dapat.

13:06Yan ang unang papasok.

13:08Okay?

13:09But...

13:09Automatic kasi.

13:10Automatic yan.

13:11Oo.

13:12But the UPS

13:13can only

13:14run for a maximum,

13:17let's say,

13:17of about 10 minutes.

13:19That's it?

13:20Yeah,

13:21that's it.

13:21Ma-aning bateroyan yan.

13:23Okay?

13:24So but within

13:24those 10 minutes,

13:26the generators

13:27have to be able

13:28to be ramped up

13:29to its most efficient

13:30operating level.

13:34So but it will

13:34normally take about,

13:36as I said earlier,

13:3710,

13:37maybe 10,

13:38maybe sometimes

13:3915 seconds

13:40before the generators

13:42are able to

13:43to come up

13:44to that level.

13:45So in the meantime,

13:47dapat yung UPS,

13:48siya yung

13:49the intervening

13:51the intervening

13:52seconds,

13:53siya yun.

13:54Siya yun ang

13:54ano,

13:55yan ang ano ng UPS.

13:56Yan ang importansya

13:57ng UPS

13:58sa BPO's,

13:59data centers,

13:59hospitals,

14:01and the like.

14:01But sometimes kasi,

14:03I think the fault

14:03is also human eh,

14:04no?

14:05The maintenance.

14:07For example,

14:09you know,

14:09during the blackout days

14:10natin noong araw eh,

14:12ang daming bumili

14:13ng generator.

14:14Oo.

14:15Na nag-backup

14:16na yung power.

14:18Nakalimutan na

14:19ma-imaintain

14:20yung generators.

14:22I mean,

14:22these are all

14:23big ones.

14:25I'm guilty of that.

14:26I'm guilty of that.

14:30Bakit?

14:32Bumili ako

14:32ng generator.

14:33Okay.

14:34And then,

14:34there came a time

14:35na hindi na natin

14:36kinailangan yung generator.

14:38Exactly.

14:38Nakalimutan na.

14:40Nakalimutan na.

14:41So,

14:42just like any,

14:44yung kotse,

14:44pag hindi ginagamit,

14:46nasisira.

14:46Exactly.

14:47Oo.

14:49Pero I think

14:50there must be

14:50an education

14:51on the part of

14:52the owner

14:53of the building

14:54or building management.

14:55Exactly.

14:56Exactly.

14:57Yes.

14:57Yung preparation.

14:58Preparation.

15:00For example,

15:01during the,

15:02nagkaroon tayo

15:02ng earthquake,

15:03recently.

15:04Marami tayo

15:05mga unexpected.

15:06Paano dapat

15:08ang magiging

15:09maintenance nito?

15:10I mean,

15:11how would people

15:12in the building

15:13industry

15:13should maintain?

15:16There are

15:17protocols.

15:18The plant facility,

15:19they're normally

15:20plant facility managers.

15:23And a lot of

15:24these building owners,

15:25they outsource

15:27this to

15:27companies like,

15:30I'm sure

15:30you've heard of them,

15:31JLL.

15:32Yes.

15:33You've heard of

15:33CBRE.

15:34Cushman

15:37Wakefield,

15:39they outsource

15:40this and

15:41they've got

15:41a whole

15:42army of

15:43engineers who

15:44are really

15:45stationed in

15:45the building

15:46themselves

15:47and doing

15:48the

15:49facilities

15:50management.

15:52And in

15:53that,

15:54part of

15:54their

15:55marching

15:57orders is

15:58truly to

15:59do

15:59maintenance,

16:00to make

16:01sure that

16:01maintenance is

16:02being done.

16:02and certain

16:05service level

16:07agreements

16:07are met

16:08with the

16:09suppliers.

16:10You know,

16:10with the

16:11supplier of

16:11the,

16:12like us,

16:13for example,

16:13we would have

16:15a service level

16:15agreement.

16:16Ano kami?

16:1724-7

16:18on call kami.

16:19Ganyan.

16:20Wow.

16:20Tanaga?

16:21Oo.

16:21Ganong kami.

16:23Hindi kami

16:23pwedeng,

16:24can you please

16:25wait?

16:26Sometimes.

16:27Lalo na

16:28mahirap,

16:29no?

16:30Obisan,

16:31pag may mga

16:32tagulan.

16:33Tell me,

16:33Robbie,

16:34there's an

16:35activity that

16:35you're now

16:36joining for

16:37the,

16:39you're having

16:39an event

16:40on the

16:40Fujiyaya event?

16:41Yeah,

16:42yeah.

16:42In

16:42November

16:4326,

16:44there will

16:46be the

16:47IIEE.

16:48That is

16:49the national

16:50convention

16:51of the

16:52Institute

16:53of,

16:55Integrated

16:56Institute

16:56of Electrical

16:57Engineers.

16:59So the

16:59whole,

17:00there are so

17:00many chapters

17:01around the

17:02country and

17:03they will

17:04all converge

17:05on the

17:06last week

17:06of November

17:07at SMX

17:09MOA.

17:10And this

17:10year is

17:11their 50th

17:12rendering of

17:13the IIEE

17:14convention,

17:1550th anniversary.

17:17So it's a big

17:17thing for them.

17:19It's a very

17:19big thing for

17:20this IIEE

17:22organization.

17:23organization.

17:25They are,

17:26they're all

17:27electrical

17:28engineers,

17:29registered

17:29electrical

17:30engineers,

17:31professional

17:31electrical

17:32engineers,

17:33and they

17:33will vote

17:34for the

17:34next

17:35board

17:36and the

17:38president,

17:38and the

17:38board elects

17:39the president

17:40from among

17:40themselves,

17:42who will

17:42lead this

17:43organization

17:45for the

17:46next year.

17:47So Fujiyaya

17:48is participating

17:49there.

17:49I understand

17:50you're going

17:50to have a

17:51booth.

17:51Yes,

17:52we will have

17:53a booth

17:53and our

17:55booth is

17:55designed in

17:57such a way

17:57that you

17:58can imagine

17:59that it's

17:59the number

18:0050.

18:02The front

18:04page will

18:04look like

18:05as if it's

18:05a number

18:0650.

18:07It's just

18:07a number

18:075,

18:08but there's

18:08something that

18:10will give

18:10you the

18:10idea that

18:11it's

18:12projecting

18:1250.

18:17This

18:17convention

18:19will

18:19showcase

18:21a lot

18:22of

18:22equipment,

18:24different

18:24brands

18:25from

18:25Europe,

18:27from

18:27Korea,

18:28from

18:28Japan,

18:29from

18:29China,

18:31Malaysia.

18:33Innovations

18:34are actually

18:34being shown,

18:35I guess.

18:36Yes,

18:36yes,

18:36yes.

18:37There will

18:38be a lot

18:38of that.

18:40And

18:40it's

18:41good for

18:43developers

18:44to come

18:46to see

18:47what's

18:48new,

18:49talk to

18:49people

18:50who have

18:51booths

18:52there,

18:53to see

18:53what their

18:56value

18:57proposition

18:57would be,

18:59what makes

19:01them

19:01different,

19:02that kind

19:03of thing.

19:03know,

19:03so,

19:04Robby,

19:05question,

19:06if I'm,

19:07if somebody

19:07owns a

19:08building,

19:09say,

19:09about,

19:09what,

19:1020,

19:1030 years

19:11old already,

19:13is it,

19:13there's,

19:14is there a

19:14chance for

19:15them to

19:16re-rectify

19:17their

19:18panel?

19:18Oh,

19:19yes,

19:19we have,

19:20we have

19:20quite a

19:21number of,

19:22of,

19:22which gave

19:23life,

19:24you know,

19:24like,

19:24we retrofit,

19:30we retrofit,

19:31the power,

19:32rooms.

19:34Ang nangyayari,

19:35like,

19:35give you a,

19:36set,

19:37you know,

19:38case in point

19:39is,

19:39is here in

19:40Makati,

19:41this is the,

19:42I think,

19:42the oldest

19:43building here,

19:44you know,

19:45I think 50

19:45years old,

19:46we,

19:47we went in

19:48and,

19:49and we're

19:49slowly,

19:50we can't do

19:51it on a rush,

19:52you know,

19:52it's,

19:53it's like,

19:54there's a switch

19:55in there,

19:55there's a,

19:56there's a,

19:56let's say,

19:57there's a switch

19:57here,

19:57there's a transformer

19:58and all that,

19:59we have to,

20:00we have to work

20:01with shutdowns,

20:02you know,

20:03you have to

20:04shut down,

20:04you replace it,

20:05you know,

20:06you have to do

20:07a lot of

20:07planning,

20:09for factories,

20:10for example,

20:11it's the same

20:12thing,

20:12so ang nangyayari

20:13jan,

20:13we will work

20:14in Holy Week,

20:16Christmas,

20:17ganyan ang mga,

20:19New Year,

20:20ganyan,

20:20ganyan.

20:21Unholy,

20:22plus the fact that,

20:23I guess,

20:23wala nang diagram yan.

20:25Wala na.

20:25May diagram pa ba?

20:27Wala na.

20:27Pag gano'ng 50 years na?

20:29Wala na,

20:29hindi na,

20:30hindi na nila alam

20:30kung nasaan,

20:31yung gano'n.

20:32So,

20:32so,

20:33inaano namin,

20:34we reconstruct

20:35and then we leave,

20:37we leave them

20:37with some kind of,

20:38no,

20:39some kind of diagram

20:40of what we did

20:42and give them,

20:44and give them

20:45instructions

20:45on how to move forward

20:47from there.

20:48Yeah,

20:48gano'n.

20:49Fantastic.

20:50so,

20:51para bang,

20:52you cannot,

20:52kasi,

20:53mga luma na buildings yan,

20:55you don't know

20:57how stable they are,

20:58you know,

20:58the wires

20:58and all the panels.

21:00Oh,

21:00yes.

21:00Pagaya mga fused pa yan,

21:02mga fused pa yan,

21:03mga fused pa yan,

21:03business breaker yan,

21:04diba?

21:04Para gano'n.

21:05Oh,

21:06yeah.

21:06But anyway,

21:07Robbie,

21:08oh yeah,

21:08Robbie,

21:08I want to go to another topic.

21:10I heard you are,

21:11you are a teacher,

21:13you are a professor.

21:16Para bang,

21:17wow,

21:18you are,

21:18you are now,

21:20you are involved in

21:21Fujihaya

21:22and now you are

21:23a professor

21:24in University of

21:25Asia and the Pacific.

21:26What made you,

21:27what made you decide

21:29to go on to teaching,

21:30Robbie?

21:31Ah,

21:31okay,

21:32it's like this,

21:32no,

21:32my,

21:34well,

21:34when I graduated

21:35from college,

21:36I joined,

21:37I joined

21:38Meralco,

21:39okay,

21:40I joined Meralco,

21:41but I wasn't an engineer,

21:43I graduated economics

21:44and,

21:45and so my,

21:48my,

21:48my direction

21:50was towards finance.

21:52So I became a banker,

21:54I became a banker

21:55and,

21:56and then,

21:57and then eventually

21:58I joined PLDT,

22:00okay,

22:01and then when,

22:02when PLDT

22:04was sold

22:05to,

22:05to Mr. Pangilinan,

22:09I,

22:09I took early retirement

22:11and I enjoyed myself,

22:14okay.

22:14Ah,

22:15okay.

22:16But,

22:17but I wanted to teach,

22:18but I wanted to teach.

22:19You have that passion

22:20to teach.

22:21I wanted to,

22:22because,

22:22because when I came back

22:23from,

22:24took my MBA,

22:25when I came back,

22:26I was teaching

22:27in Akaneo undergrad

22:28also,

22:29during that time.

22:31So,

22:31so as I,

22:32as I took early retirement,

22:34I was 43.

22:35I wanted to play golf

22:37every day and then,

22:38but I wanted to teach,

22:39but I wasn't pursuing it,

22:40but so one day,

22:43my very,

22:45very first boss

22:46called me and said,

22:47you're wasting your life

22:48away in the golf course,

22:49come and teach.

22:51And I said,

22:51look at this,

22:52I said,

22:52I have not even,

22:54I mean,

22:54you know,

22:55parang,

22:56God is taking care of me.

22:58I haven't even reached out

22:59and here,

22:59here it is already.

23:01So,

23:01I quickly went

23:02to UAP

23:03and,

23:04and met the people

23:05in the program

23:06and that was

23:07in the year 2001.

23:09And up to now,

23:10I am still,

23:11I'm still with them.

23:13I'm still with them.

23:14So,

23:15so what,

23:15what,

23:16what subject

23:17are you,

23:18are you involved in?

23:19I,

23:20I am with the

23:20entrepreneurial management

23:22program

23:22and I manage

23:24the,

23:24the two and a half

23:26year core module

23:27called new business

23:28ventures.

23:29Okay.

23:30Yeah.

23:31Our program,

23:32our program

23:33requires students

23:34while in school

23:36to set up a business.

23:38But remember,

23:39these guys are 17 year olds,

23:4118 year olds.

23:42The Gen Z.

23:43Yeah.

23:4370,

23:44kung galing ka sa probinsya,

23:4618,

23:46kung,

23:47kung,

23:47kung ganyan.

23:49Yeah.

23:50So,

23:50we have to teach them

23:51the tools.

23:52You have to teach them

23:53the tools.

23:54So,

23:54we,

23:55two and a half years,

23:56it's a 22,

23:5722 unit

23:59core module

24:01where

24:02they have to

24:03come up with a business idea

24:04do a marketing plan,

24:07do an operations plan,

24:09do a financial plan,

24:11and then they have to

24:12run the business.

24:13And we give them targets

24:14depending on how much money

24:15their,

24:16their parents are giving

24:17them to play around with.

24:19Ah,

24:19yeah.

24:20Okay.

24:20And then after,

24:21after running,

24:22and then they make reports,

24:23we're like,

24:24we're like chairman

24:25of the board kami

24:26sa panel.

24:26you report,

24:28you know,

24:29how long

24:29you're looking,

24:30you know,

24:31why this is,

24:32how does that compare

24:35with your,

24:36your business plan.

24:38Yes,

24:38yeah.

24:39So,

24:40so,

24:41and these guys

24:42make money.

24:44You know,

24:44they,

24:44they create wealth.

24:45You know,

24:46they create wealth.

24:47So,

24:47do they work as a team

24:48or they individual?

24:49Individual dito.

24:50Individual.

24:51Because,

24:52because,

24:53because,

24:54you know,

24:54when,

24:54when it's a team,

24:56there will always be

24:56somebody who's not working.

24:58There will always be

24:59somebody who'll be the leader.

25:00So,

25:01they are forced to do this

25:03all by themselves.

25:04And this is all,

25:05you know,

25:05they have to register

25:06the business.

25:08They have to register

25:09the business.

25:09So,

25:10it's really a hands-on,

25:11not just on academic.

25:14Hindi.

25:15It's,

25:15it's coursework.

25:16It's coursework.

25:17Plus,

25:18they have to know

25:18their financials.

25:20They have to know

25:20how to create

25:22their own financial statements,

25:24understand what's going on,

25:26and do their pivots

25:28if their targets

25:29are not being met.

25:31You know,

25:31those are,

25:31those are the things

25:32that we,

25:33that we try to instill.

25:35I say,

25:36you know,

25:37we,

25:37we put our students

25:38underwater

25:40and then give them

25:41time to,

25:42to breathe,

25:43you know,

25:43surface and then

25:44bring them back

25:45that's a bootcamp,

25:48a bootcamp.

25:49Oh,

25:50bootcamp talaga.

25:51But how many of them

25:52really pursued

25:53after their graduation?

25:55Did they pursue

25:56with their business?

25:5930%

26:00will not pursue

26:01their business.

26:01a lot of them,

26:03a lot of them,

26:05because not all of them

26:07come from families

26:08with business backgrounds,

26:09family businesses.

26:11Yeah,

26:11yeah.

26:11Some,

26:11some come from families

26:13that are professional

26:15in their parents,

26:16you know,

26:16lawyers,

26:17bankers,

26:18accountants,

26:19things like that.

26:20Would you believe

26:21we have about,

26:23we have,

26:23we have recently

26:25graduated

26:27doctor of medicine

26:28from our EM,

26:31from our EM,

26:32you know,

26:33on her,

26:33on her last,

26:34on her last,

26:35what we call

26:37new,

26:37new business

26:38ventures,

26:38you know,

26:39class.

26:40I asked her,

26:41what are you,

26:42what,

26:43what do you want

26:44to plan to do?

26:45Sir,

26:45I plan to become

26:46a doctor.

26:47I said,

26:48wow,

26:48there's no science

26:49here in our,

26:51in our course.

26:52Exactly.

26:53I said,

26:53I will prepare

26:54for the,

26:56and Matt,

26:57I will prepare

26:57for the National

26:58Medical Aptitude Test.

27:00And,

27:00and that's how,

27:01and now she's a doctor.

27:02We're so proud of her.

27:04We have a lot of,

27:05we have a lot of,

27:06we have a lot of,

27:07lawyers also.

27:11We have a lot of lawyers,

27:12but about 30% of them

27:14do not pursue

27:15the businesses.

27:17They,

27:17they close in.

27:18Yeah.

27:19I think that's best,

27:20no?

27:20You're not teaching

27:21only from the classroom.

27:22You're actually,

27:23putting them

27:25in the water

27:26of entrepreneurship,

27:27you know,

27:27because a lot of people

27:29will think

27:29starting a business

27:31is a walk in the park.

27:33Right?

27:34Right?

27:35Right?

27:37The people who say,

27:39discard it.

27:40You know,

27:40discard it.

27:41Right?

27:42Which,

27:43I think,

27:44based on those,

27:45what you are now teaching,

27:46you're teaching them

27:47the rope,

27:47you know,

27:48the pros and cons,

27:49you know,

27:49the ability

27:51to be analytic,

27:52right?

27:52Yeah.

27:53So,

27:53fulfilling

27:54pala yung retirement

27:56mo,

27:57Robbie.

27:57Very fulfilling.

27:59Oh,

27:59bukod sa bumaba

28:00yung handicap ko,

28:01umano ka.

28:03Congratulations.

28:05Okay.

28:06But just one thing

28:07that,

28:07there's one thing

28:08that I want to share.

28:10In our course,

28:12and I think

28:13we're the only ones

28:14that do this,

28:15we,

28:16we subject

28:18our,

28:18our students,

28:19the graduating

28:20students

28:21in,

28:22in a,

28:22into a,

28:23uh,

28:24self-introspection,

28:26uh,

28:27Oh,

28:27yeah.

28:28Yeah.

28:29So that,

28:29so that,

28:30you know,

28:30they know more

28:31about themselves.

28:32They,

28:33they,

28:34you know,

28:34if they've got

28:35baggage and

28:36all that,

28:37you know,

28:37they,

28:37they kind of shed it

28:38so that they,

28:39they enter the

28:40workforce with

28:41as least

28:43emotional baggage

28:45and all that

28:46and knowing more

28:47of themselves.

28:48Ganon.

28:49You know,

28:49I think what,

28:50this is what our

28:51generation needs,

28:52no,

28:53the introspect

28:54rather than

28:55going all out

28:56because you have

28:57to have a grounding

28:58mindset,

29:00di ba?

29:00Dapat,

29:01alam mo,

29:01ito ba talagang gusto ko?

29:03Ito ba talaga ako?

29:04Ito ba?

29:05You know?

29:06Talaga ba

29:06negosyante ba ako talaga?

29:09I mean,

29:09you know,

29:10ganon namin,

29:12ano namin,

29:12approach namin

29:13towards the end,

29:14towards graduation.

29:15Ganon namin.

29:16Importante yun kasi,

29:18you know,

29:18when you face out there

29:20after your graduation,

29:21you don't carry

29:22the school naman eh,

29:24di ba?

29:24Yung mga,

29:25yung mga ibang tao kasi,

29:26oh,

29:26I'm a graduate of this school

29:28so I deserve,

29:29you know,

29:30this,

29:30no,

29:31what the school

29:32has left you

29:33in your heart

29:34and mind

29:34is where you will

29:36now go.

29:37Yeah,

29:37yeah.

29:38So that's the role

29:38of the

29:40professors.

29:40Yeah.

29:41So it was,

29:42so retirement

29:42is not really

29:43your cup of tea

29:44now,

29:45huh?

29:45You're now,

29:46uh,

29:47parabang,

29:48uh,

29:48what can you advise pala?

29:50A lot of people

29:50are saying,

29:51oh,

29:51I'm early retiree,

29:53you know,

29:53I met a lot of people

29:5445 years,

29:56early retiree

29:57na ro sila.

29:58Uh,

29:58they want to enjoy

29:59the world,

30:00life is short.

30:01What would you say

30:02to them,

30:03to these people?

30:04You know,

30:04I've been there,

30:05I've done that.

30:07With,

30:07retirement

30:08is overrated.

30:10It's overrated.

30:11Uh,

30:12just to give you

30:12my example,

30:14uh,

30:14in 2018,

30:15I was asked

30:17by my friend

30:17who,

30:18who,

30:19who is our

30:20managing director

30:21here in

30:22Fujihaya,

30:23and said,

30:23hey,

30:24why don't you

30:25come,

30:25because,

30:26come over,

30:26let's do some

30:27organizational development

30:29here.

30:29Oh,

30:30that's right down

30:31my alley.

30:31And,

30:32you know,

30:33because the,

30:34because the,

30:35uh,

30:36political and

30:37economic landscape

30:39keeps on changing,

30:40your customers

30:41require more

30:42from you,

30:44more products

30:44from you,

30:45more services

30:45from you.

30:46So,

30:47you have to

30:47evolve,

30:48uh,

30:49with the demand

30:49of,

30:50uh,

30:50of the customers,

30:52no?

30:52So,

30:53in the end,

30:53I told him,

30:54you know,

30:54pare,

30:55we're gonna die

30:56with our boots

30:57on here,

30:57you know,

30:58we're both,

30:59we're both past 70,

31:01which,

31:01which I don't mind,

31:02because,

31:03yeah,

31:03that's true.

31:04I don't mind,

31:05yeah,

31:05that's the concept

31:08that we're doing

31:09right now.

31:10And, uh,

31:10and so,

31:10but of course,

31:11we will,

31:12you know,

31:12give yourself,

31:13the man,

31:14a long weekend,

31:16yeah,

31:17a long weekend,

31:18four days,

31:19that kind,

31:20you know,

31:20and then come back

31:21and then do.

31:21Yeah,

31:22because,

31:22remember,

31:23the energy

31:24when you were 25

31:25is now different

31:27from what you have.

31:28I mean,

31:28you want,

31:29uh,

31:30you cannot be

31:31maintaining

31:32the 25-year-old

31:33mentality,

31:35you know,

31:35eh,

31:36hindi na kaya,

31:37hindi na kaya yun,

31:38but again,

31:39enjoying the quality

31:40of life that you have,

31:41right?

31:41Uh,

31:42yun ang importante.

31:44So,

31:44uh,

31:44yeah.

31:45So,

31:45final advice

31:46sa mga retirees

31:47na mga nakatunganga,

31:49paano yun?

31:50Paano bang,

31:51anong gagawin ko ngayon,

31:52Robby?

31:53You know,

31:53probably in their minds,

31:55what will I do now,

31:56Robby?

31:56I'm,

31:57I'm about to retire,

31:58okay?

31:59The jitters

31:59of retirement.

32:02You,

32:03you have to find

32:04something

32:05to do

32:07that goes

32:08with,

32:09uh,

32:10your passion.

32:10Okay?

32:11Uh,

32:12I always,

32:13I always said

32:14teaching,

32:16for example,

32:16is one of the best,

32:19uh,

32:20jobs

32:21at your late age

32:23because you're able

32:24to share so much.

32:26The wisdom,

32:27the wisdom

32:27and all that.

32:29So,

32:29yeah,

32:29even if you just

32:30want to go teach

32:31English in a public school,

32:33yes,

32:34go and do it.

32:35Yeah,

32:36go and do it.

32:37And ganon.

32:38Yeah.

32:39So,

32:40so that's,

32:40that's for the,

32:41for,

32:41for the retirees.

32:43You cannot

32:44hang your boots.

32:46You cannot,

32:47you cannot,

32:48you have,

32:49your mind has to be active,

32:51uh,

32:52there's always

32:53dementia

32:54when you're not doing,

32:55thinking of doing anything.

32:56Oh, yeah,

32:57yeah,

32:57right,

32:58talking about that,

32:59you know,

32:59uh,

33:00the brain,

33:01parang,

33:01anian,

33:02parang generator,

33:03di mo nalagaan.

33:04Di na-stock up yung brain mo ngayon.

33:06Di ba?

33:07Nakakalun ka ng brain fog

33:09all the time.

33:10Oh,

33:10yan,

33:11yan,

33:11dahil hindi na-exercise

33:12pa ng,

33:13ano,

33:13yan,

33:14crossword puzzle,

33:15yan,

33:16that's very good,

33:16exercise.

33:17Yeah,

33:17exactly,

33:18exactly.

33:19Di ba?

33:19Oo,

33:20ganon.

33:21Play chess,

33:22with your grandchildren

33:23when you have time.

33:25Correct,

33:25correct.

33:26Because after five years old,

33:28hula na sila,

33:28they have their own world,

33:29you know?

33:30Oh, ganon,

33:31yeah,

33:32yeah.

33:32So,

33:33in other words,

33:34in other words,

33:35it's really up to the person,

33:36no?

33:36When you retire,

33:37you must be prepared,

33:38not just,

33:39I want to retire,

33:40I want to have this money,

33:42and I want to set up a business,

33:43pero wala ka naman plan B,

33:44plan C.

33:45Oo, wala.

33:46There's nothing that you want to

33:47have for yourself,

33:48no?

33:48Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:49You keep on working and working

33:51until,

33:52you know,

33:52you quit,

33:53that's it,

33:53you enjoy life,

33:55na man.

33:55Oo,

33:55you can join an NGO,

33:58you can volunteer in barangay,

34:01you know,

34:01yung ganyan.

34:02Marami kang masasalihan eh,

34:04magagawa.

34:05Yan.

34:06Rather than,

34:06rather than staying watching the TV

34:08the whole day,

34:09or watching movies,

34:11Netflix.

34:12Nagninetflix ka na lang ba,

34:14araw-araw,

34:14buhay mo na lang,

34:15Netflix na,

34:16di ba?

34:17But,

34:18you know,

34:18come to think of it,

34:19a lot of,

34:20a lot of people have wisdom

34:21that they can share with the generation,

34:24di ba?

34:24Values,

34:26yung mga,

34:27kasi,

34:27ngayon,

34:28kasi,

34:28mga the Gen Z,

34:29they have the,

34:30they always have to look back at

34:32what happened during your time.

34:35Because they want to look back.

34:36Wala yung,

34:37wala yung,

34:37asa yung mga bata ngayon,

34:38they have their own world,

34:40paano naging successful si daddy

34:42o si lolo?

34:43You know,

34:44yung mga ganon.

34:45Kaya nga iba,

34:45nagsusulat ng memoir,

34:47right?

34:47Yes,

34:48yes.

34:49That's a good one.

34:50Autobiography,

34:51di ba?

34:51Autobiography.

34:52It's something that

34:54the children

34:55and the children

34:56will look forward

34:57and say,

34:57hey,

34:57I'm proud of

34:58our lolo,

34:59Robby.

35:00Ganito pala siya.

35:02Di ba?

35:02Yung,

35:02yeah.

35:04Like,

35:05like,

35:05for example,

35:07when my,

35:08when my mom died,

35:10I said,

35:11wow,

35:11ang dami,

35:12ang dami nitong mga taong

35:14bumibisita.

35:15How did she do it?

35:16Ang dami,

35:17how did she do it?

35:18Yeah,

35:18because,

35:19because she was involved

35:20in a lot of,

35:21ano,

35:21organizations

35:22and,

35:22and things like that.

35:24Wow,

35:25in my mind,

35:27hindi ako siguro

35:28makaka-attract

35:29ng ganito

35:29pag-aako na.

35:33But I think,

35:34I think the basic,

35:35what your mom did

35:37is actually to establish

35:38that solid credibility.

35:39Di ba?

35:41That,

35:41you know,

35:42people believe in her,

35:44what she was doing.

35:45Di ba?

35:46Yan na maganda.

35:48Yan na importante.

35:50Oh my gosh,

35:51Robby.

35:52Where can,

35:53where can they

35:53get in touch with you?

35:54Because some people

35:55might say,

35:56oh,

35:56I,

35:56probably,

35:57go to,

35:58go to,

35:59SMX.

36:00Okay?

36:01At least,

36:02you know,

36:02look for

36:03Mr.,

36:04the Professor Robby Anonis.

36:06Di ba?

36:07And probably,

36:09UAP.

36:09Yeah,

36:10UAP.

36:11Yes,

36:11UAP,

36:12the Entrepreneurial

36:13Management Program.

36:15Yeah.

36:15Go to our website,

36:17fujihyelectric.com.

36:20There's a,

36:21how to contact,

36:22you know,

36:22you can,

36:23you can contact us

36:25there,

36:26you can contact me

36:26through there.

36:28Yan.

36:28And,

36:29yan.

36:30And,

36:30you know,

36:31generationally kasi,

36:32we've got generational

36:34characteristics.

36:35Whereas before,

36:36we were dealing

36:37with millennials,

36:37now it's already

36:39Gen Z,

36:40mamayami,

36:41ano na nga bang

36:42the next?

36:43Alpha,

36:44alpha na,

36:44beta.

36:45Hindi ko naman,

36:46alam mo.

36:47Parang,

36:47alam mo pag,

36:48Robby,

36:49pag nagpo-put ka

36:50ng date,

36:51ano ba?

36:51Date mo,

36:52birthday,

36:52blah,

36:53blah.

36:53Pag year,

36:54pag scroll ka

36:54ng scroll up,

36:55parang,

36:56naku,

36:56tumatanda na pala

36:57tayo talaga,

36:58no?

36:58Parang,

36:59yeah,

37:03but,

37:03life has to go on

37:05and enjoy.

37:06So,

37:06again,

37:06Robby,

37:07maraming,

37:07maraming salamat

37:08for this Sunday

37:09sharing

37:11and really

37:12looking forward

37:13to being proud.

37:14You know,

37:14Fujihaya,

37:151978 pa yan,

37:17ha?

37:17Yes.

37:18The first

37:19Filipino

37:20company.

37:22It's a joint venture,

37:24a joint,

37:25yeah,

37:25it's a joint venture

37:26between

37:27Fuji Electric

37:28of Japan

37:29and Haya Electric,

37:30local Filipino.

37:31And we've been

37:34steeped in

37:35Japanese engineering

37:36standards.

37:37They trained us,

37:38technology transfer

37:40and all that

37:41and this type

37:42of quality,

37:44continuous

37:44improvement,

37:46all the Japanese

37:47types of

37:48management,

37:50philosophies,

37:52that was ingrained

37:53in Fujihaya

37:55Electric.

37:57That's true,

37:58yeah.

37:58Proud of this

38:00Filipino company.

38:011978 pa yan.

38:02So,

38:03if you're getting

38:03somebody for panel,

38:05you might as well

38:06consider somebody

38:07with a good,

38:08solid background,

38:09right?

38:10So,

38:10Robby,

38:11thank you very much

38:11and good luck

38:12to happy retirement.

38:14Enjoy your

38:15teaching life.

38:16Thank you,

38:17Boots.

38:17Thank you, Boots.

38:18Okay.

38:19Talk to me.

38:20Hope to see you again.

38:21Yes.

38:23Bye.

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