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00:00I was very interested to see the guilt market reaction after that unusual or extraordinary speech that was last Tuesday, was it?
00:07Feels like a long time ago, yeah.
00:08Feels like a long time ago.
00:09So that tells us a lot.
00:11The guilt market wants to see this fiscal gap filled.
00:16And tweaking at the edges with sin taxes and all...
00:20But they're tweaks, aren't they?
00:21They're tweaks.
00:22They're not meaningfully going to fill this gap because you need to get that headroom filled.
00:27You don't want to be sitting on a £9.9 billion headroom.
00:32It's not enough.
00:33It can be wiped out very, very quickly.
00:35And I think the guilt market response this morning will be very interesting for sure.
00:39They are really...
00:41I think the attitude is let's just fill this gap now, raise income taxes, freeze those income tax thresholds,
00:48make more meaningful policy measures that can actually bring in some revenue
00:53because it's very difficult for them to cut spending, welfare spending.
00:57Given the pressure from the left, obviously there will be pressure from other parts of the...
01:03They're probably concerned about by-elections next year.
01:07There is a very difficult position to be in.
01:10But that's what Mark Dowding was telling us the other day from RBC Blueberry.
01:13He's like, yeah, they can raise taxes, but actually what the guilt market really wants to see is cuts.
01:17Spending cuts.
01:18See spending cuts.
01:18But also you've seen the market street respond to some of these political jitters,
01:21which I thought was interesting.
01:23You saw it in Pound Weakness.
01:25You saw these, you know, rumored or alleged kind of coups on Starmer from Streeting and others.
01:30Do the politics matter here?
01:32I think it does.
01:33I think at the moment these are all rumors.
01:35There's nothing concrete just yet.
01:37I think the market would be very disturbed if we have a change of leadership or change of Chancellor.
01:42We saw that just a few months ago when there were rumors around Chancellor Reeves' position.
01:48The guilt market sold off quite quickly.
01:50And that was a clear signal that we want someone who's going to be, as she said, ironclad about the fiscal rules.
01:55The fiscal rules are very important in all of this.
01:58What if she's not ironclad?
02:00I think that would be very dangerous in terms of how the debt burden will suddenly increase if guilt yields go up.
02:06And I think the fiscal rules can't be touched.
02:08So where do you make the maneuver?
02:11It will have to be in the manifesto pledges.
02:14Otherwise, if those pledges aren't broken, it's going to be very difficult to pull together these tweaks to fill that hole.
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