The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 4

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00:00Woo! Girl's trip!

00:02This is so cute.

00:08So I'm really excited because I've been planning a girl's trip for my birthday.

00:15So we're going to stay in this really nice little penthouse and have a girl's weekend away.

00:19Woo! I'm so excited!

00:22But since the baby blessing, there's a clear division, sinners versus saints,

00:27because Jen uninvited Jesse, Taylor, Layla, and Demi.

00:32I feel like we have this weird divide right now, like the sinners and the angels are at the baby blessing.

00:38So I'm really hoping that by the end of the trip, we will be one united group again.

00:43How's it going to be with seeing Taylor?

00:45It's going to be a boxing match.

00:47Ding, ding, ding, ding! Who's going to win?

00:48Well, she's pregnant, so you can't do that.

00:50Oh, yeah, I forgot she's pregnant!

00:53I forgot!

00:54Seal me!

00:55We're getting there first, so I think we get first tips on her.

00:59Taylor, I feel like you're kind of quiet right now.

01:01I'm anxious, like very anxious.

01:03I'm going to pop my anxiety meds when we get there.

01:06I already did.

01:07If there's any, like, confrontation, like you're stuck with that person for the weekend, like, you can't just leave.

01:15It feels really good to be back with the girls.

01:17I have missed them.

01:18I've missed the friendship of MomTalk.

01:21And I am really grateful that they've, like, given me, like, the second chance.

01:24Well, I am anxious about the girlship.

01:27I have some hard conversations I need to have with Whitney.

01:30I want to know why she didn't come to my baby shower and why there's this elephant in the room.

01:35I want to see where she's coming from, kind of understand why she feels these feelings towards me.

01:39Just know this, Taylor.

01:40If things get wild, I've got your back.

01:41Yeah.

01:42Oh, really?

01:43Yeah.

01:43That's sweet of you.

01:44I'm so mad at Whitney.

01:46First, the Fruity cereal incident, then becoming the victim.

01:49Demi, I have a gift for you.

01:51Oh, God.

01:53So dumb.

01:54Tensions are high.

01:56I have a surprise coming later, so this weekend should be pretty interesting.

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02:59I was like not expecting that they see I gotta pop one of these just moms and snacks you and

03:17Bradbury we're actually currently in a little bit of a disagreement just over the whole Fruity

03:23Pebbles thing oh yeah and he wasn't like a prude about it he was like I get it I want you to be

03:28excited I want you to be able to talk about these things but I don't want to feel like I have to

03:31second guess what I'm about to do in the bedroom yeah so I was like I get that I feel bad because

03:36I feel like I like betrayed him in a way it's I take full accountability that I'm the one that

03:42opened the can of worms but it does bother me the way that Whitney went about that it just felt a

03:47little tacky to me yeah yeah I could tell you were so upset is Whitney level-headed enough to have that

03:53conversation with it like how is that conversation gonna go I don't know she's got it coming I feel

03:59like well maybe she should stop doing things then yeah Whitney's been one of my really good friends

04:03for two years now she likes to think that she's self-aware but she doesn't take accountability a

04:11lot of the time even I would have been like hey sorry I didn't send you a message about not coming

04:14to your shower like I don't know yeah yeah the fact that she can go about life and go about those

04:20situations just like unbothered yeah that makes me nervous I'm honestly surprised to hear that other

04:27people have issues with Whitney I thought I was maybe the only one on the outside of it with her

04:32but we work together we do lots of events together I would like to be a good friend to her and I'm

04:37hoping that we can hash this out wait I can't believe this has this many rooms shut the fuck up to

04:58paradise I got everyone matching sweat mom talk shot

05:23Whitney has come bearing gifts matching sweat sets it was so thoughtful of her and I'm not gonna

05:31lie it's kind of refreshing to see this side of Whitney why don't we go in the jacuzzi

05:44this is so relaxing Jen looks like she can't see all on your lashes should we get out yeah cool let's

05:52go I'm over it I think my favorite thing about our group of women is that we all just like to

06:07have a good time and we just have so much fun together so is Zach with your kids mm-hmm okay

06:14yep how's he feeling about being alone with them I think Jordan's freaking out he's like uh are any of

06:21Annie's available I'm like you'll be fine stop it yes so he's not really the stay at home dad right

06:26now like he's no I mean he is but I could never see him just being at home 24 7. because I mean

06:32would Zach ever do that like no we definitely still have like our tough days where like we just aren't on

06:38the same page in his head I think he thinks you know after 15 years he'll be the provider so he's

06:44like my job's more important because like I'm gonna be providing for us for life but he can't get

06:48there without you doing it now exactly so that's where we like that is so hard I'm currently the

06:55breadwinner in my relationship I'm providing for my kids my husband to go to medical school and I

07:02definitely think this is super hard for him coming from a traditional family and they have good

07:07intentions but it comes from a place sometimes of them telling you what you can and can't do 100 and

07:11people strong women and so I feel like we're like no like but then it causes an issue for sure

07:16the male typically being the sole provider within our religion makes our situation a little bit tricky

07:25and so there's definitely a lot of tension in our relationship I used to be the person that would

07:31just say yes to everything and now I don't you're finding your voice yes and you know what like I'm like

07:36I'm proud of that I'm like shoot you better be making a lot of money but then yeah like this

07:41better be worth it I thought it was bullshit when Jen made this decision to uninvite us from the baby

07:45blessing and I do think it was Zach behind that decision because I know Jen she's very welcoming

07:50and I think that Zach really put his foot down in this situation but right now she's opening up and

07:55I'm feeling really optimistic about our friendship moving forward by the time he's done with medical

08:00school I'll probably be making more money than he'll ever make no literally isn't that funny like you're

08:05like my side gig actually provides for us no like literally what do you know like literally

08:10I don't know what I'm gonna wear what are you guys wearing well I brought those to go with this dress

08:26oh shiz what not my garments oh everyone I have some information the garment queen forgot her garment

08:36I'm dead yeah you know the reason why I wear garments is when you go through the temple or when you get

08:45married and you've committed to this person and you've committed to God wearing them is supposed to

08:50be like a constant reminder for you daily wait you didn't pack any I ride them last minute yeah

08:59because she knew that they were gonna get struck down a male chef coming tonight so she will be

09:05wearing a low like oh that's single it might be time to pump wait did you bring underwear no I literally

09:14didn't bring anything like you don't have a thing I don't have anything can you door-dash garments

09:20Feeling so good now

09:24Woo! Dinner! Good!

09:27Hi you guys!

09:29Did you do this all yourself Macy?

09:31I made this everyone who's saying the prayer?

09:33Do you guys want to say a prayer?

09:35Yes absolutely we have a meal Jen you want to say the prayer?

09:38Sure!

09:39Dear Heavenly Father so grateful for this day we're so grateful for this time that we could

09:43spend together and he's blessed this food will give us strength and strength in our

09:47bodies and that we may have an amazing weekend and I say these things in the name of Jesus

09:54Christ amen

09:55Amen

09:56Praise the Lord hallelujah

09:59Whitney are you drinking rosé?

10:02It is

10:03Want a taste?

10:04All right are we doing a little cheers for Macy?

10:08To me?

10:09I'm happy because things look like they're going good so far so I think we're all just hoping

10:14it stays that way

10:15Okay raise a toast for Macy

10:18Macy!

10:19Happy 21st

10:23Happy 21st

10:25Happy 16th

10:26Thank you

10:27Oh my gosh

10:28Should we go around and do an I love you because?

10:30Oh I love that yeah let's do that

10:32I love Macy because I know I could tell her absolutely anything and she wouldn't judge

10:37me for it

10:38Aww

10:39She just gets my sense of humor I feel like we're very actually we're not similar we're

10:44actually quite opposite

10:45But that's what makes it the best

10:48You know

10:49You are just genuinely yourself and I think you're amazing

10:52You're blunt you just say how it is to people's face and some people will call that

10:56bitchy

10:59Okay

11:00But I actually really like that

11:01I love all of you thank you for being here I'm glad we could all come together and feast

11:07My favorite thing to do which is to eat

11:09Bye

11:10Guys I have something for you I have a little activity

11:12Oh no

11:13Yeah okay everyone I brought a truth box

11:15This is full 100% honesty tonight okay

11:22I'm hoping we are able to share if there is existing tension that we're able to be honest and work through those things

11:29No I'm gonna die this sucks because this group of girls even if this is meant to be like light hearted and good intentions it's not going to be

11:39This is so stupid like an anonymous truth box really if you really want to tell someone the truth just go say it to their face

11:46Demi's truth box this is the worst idea I've ever heard in my entire life

11:51So in here I have cards that you're gonna write a question on and we don't know who said what right?

11:58No they're all anonymous

11:59Yes leave them anonymous

12:01So I'm gonna pass out the cards

12:03Yeah

12:04Write it down on the card fold it in half and then just put it back in the box

12:07Okay

12:08Here we go

12:09I'm really not wanting to do this

12:15I personally am excited for it

12:17I don't have much to release everyone just kind of knows my dirty laundry already

12:22But I'm curious to hear other people's

12:24Okay is everyone done should we go change?

12:26Yeah let's go change

12:27Let's get our sweatsuits

12:29The whole intention of this truth box is to say the things that you want to say

12:32And honestly I want to clear the air with Whitney

12:35Hash out what we need to hash out

12:37And move past this

12:39So who's getting the short straw?

12:41Who's going first?

12:42From a name

12:43Layla if you could sleep with one of your friend's husbands

12:46Who would it be and why?

12:47I'm not going to go take Brett from him

12:49He wouldn't even give me a chance

12:50Are you kidding me?

12:51Look at his fucking face

12:52I would never

12:53But theoretically if you guys weren't together I would find him like a tree

12:57She's like I'd be my step mom

12:59Oh my god

13:00Alright next

13:01Jen

13:03Which girl in this room would you go lesbian for?

13:05Prove it!

13:06Prove it!

13:07Exclamation mark!

13:08Exclamation mark!

13:09Prove it!

13:10Oh gosh

13:11It's K

13:12Yeah

13:13I've done that

13:14Kiss

13:15Kiss

13:16Kiss

13:17Kiss

13:18Kiss

13:19I do

13:20I think women are hot

13:21Oh god

13:22Oh god

13:23Every time someone's reading a part of my heart

13:41Why don't you like Taylor?

13:43Are you just jealous of her clout?

13:45Oh god

13:48Oh my god

13:51Oh my god

13:52Literally in my mind I'm like shit shit shit shit shit

13:55I don't think I'm jealous of Taylor's clout

14:04I think I was jealous of the forgiveness that Taylor got

14:09During that time of her whole swinger drama

14:11That I feel like I didn't get

14:13Wait forgiveness for what?

14:15Just like the RSV video

14:17Two weeks after I had given birth Connor took Liam to our pediatrician

14:28The doctor is testing his oxygen levels

14:31And the doctor is like these are scarcely low

14:34Like you need to take him to the hospital

14:35You need to take him to the emergency room right now

14:37So Connor rushes Liam to the emergency room

14:40The first couple days were a bit scary

14:42But then he was getting better

14:45And so I'm thinking like let's you know do something fun

14:50And I made a video

14:51In that video people felt that I was using my child's sickness for clout and for attention

15:03Everyone was so quick to forgive Taylor online for swinging

15:07And then I just feel like I still get shredded to pieces almost every single video

15:12But no I'm not jealous of Taylor's clout

15:15And I feel like if I don't like her I feel like that's a completely different conversation for a different time

15:21Yeah I am very confused because I'm like girl you have no idea the amount of bullying threats and comments that I have received on a daily basis up until today on how awful of a person I am

15:36So I think I got way more trash than she has by far

15:41It's so crazy to me that Whitney's not honest with Taylor about her feelings of jealousy

15:45Because she is very open about it when Taylor's not around

15:47And when asked straight to her face Whitney lies about it

15:50Come on girl the truth has got to come out sometime

15:53Taylor if you found out today that Dakota lied and actually slept with Jenna that night

15:57Would you leave him even though you were having his baby?

16:00100,000% would be dead to me

16:03Wait we need a little back story

16:07So we weren't like officially dating

16:09He had originally slept with a girl

16:11Lied about it ended up telling me the truth

16:13He was like okay like I'm so sorry

16:15And I was like it's good we're not dating

16:16And then he went off with another girl which is Jenna

16:19I asked him if like he slept with her and he said he only kissed her

16:22He's like sworn on his life

16:23Because I said if that ever comes out that you guys did anything else

16:26I will leave you in like a snap of your fingers

16:28So I was like so if you did just come clear now

16:30Yeah

16:31And he's like sworn on his life that he didn't

16:33So even now even though that was like

16:35100% it wouldn't even be a question

16:36I'd leave in a heartbeat

16:37Okay next question

16:41To me did you ever say that Jen is too Mormon?

16:44I've never said she's too Mormon

16:49I have said that you bring it up in conversation a lot

16:53Can't do that because da da da

16:55Or like can't wear that because my garments or da da

16:57It just brought up a lot

16:59And to me

17:00So that would stop you from hanging out with me?

17:02No

17:03Being friends with me?

17:04No no no no

17:05Which is funny you were giggling because you were the one that told her this obviously

17:09Yeah

17:10Demi actually told me something about you

17:12Recently?

17:13Yeah

17:14Yeah

17:15Something about being very Mormon

17:17And you guys both agreed?

17:18So

17:19Agreed

17:20No we did not

17:21Yes you did

17:22Absolutely not

17:23That's not a word

17:24Well we didn't

17:25Second of all

17:26That we did

17:27Yes you did

17:28No we did not

17:29Ultimately did I say that Jen is too Mormon?

17:33I did and I stand by that

17:35The question isn't what struck a nerve with me necessarily

17:39It was who I knew that information came from

17:42We were shocked

17:43We were like really?

17:44We thought you were friends with Jen

17:45I was friends with Jen

17:46But then when I brought it up you said I totally understand where you're coming from

17:49She can be that way

17:50Did I say that Macy?

17:51Did I say that?

17:52She wasn't

17:53I don't remember

17:54Talk to Jen

17:55You guys work it out

17:56No don't be that bitch

17:57Don't say I'm gonna tell the story then don't talk to me

17:59No we're right here

18:00Okay

18:01When I said it's a little bit annoying how it's like look at me I'm so Mormon

18:05And then you said I totally get where you're coming from

18:07She can be that way

18:09This is so stupid

18:11Please

18:12Somebody come in this door and shoot me because I do not want to be here anymore

18:16Okay

18:17But what's so confusing to me is that you would rate yourself a 9 out of 10 on the Mormon scale

18:22Yeah I'm too Mormon for you

18:23It's not about being too Mormon

18:24That just doesn't

18:25I don't go around saying I'm hosting a BYU Mormon graduation

18:28I'm wearing my garments for the 7,000th time

18:31I'm solid in who I am and I don't need to go around saying I am Mormon

18:35But I feel like often you will wear that as like a badge of honor and to me it's kind of gaggy

18:40It's just like frustrating is that you didn't confront me first and I feel like now you're like notorious for doing this for a lot of people like calling Taylor white trash

18:48When Whitney told me that Demi said I was too Mormon for her she also told me that Demi called Taylor white trash

19:02Demi called Taylor white trash

19:05That's kind of harsh

19:07That's really harsh

19:08You don't just say that

19:09I wouldn't even say that

19:10I don't like Taylor

19:11It seems like you keep doing this

19:13And it's just

19:14What are you talking about?

19:15Wait so when did you call me white trash?

19:16Let me explain where that was coming from

19:18I had just gotten done explaining to the girls the night of the party that we came over

19:23We were like super drunk so I don't even know if you remember this

19:25But you were like coming over kissing Brett on the head

19:28Kissing me on the head like I love you guys and like being touchy

19:31Granted I knew nothing that was going on

19:33You started being super like flirty with Brett and like laughing with him and leaning over the couch

19:38And I was like sitting there and I was like no

19:40One thousand percent Brett was there I can confirm

19:43You were leaning over the couch and you were like like laughing into him and you were like talking directly to him while I was sitting right there on the couch

19:51I was like watching you go from like husband to husband flirty whatever

19:56Well I was like considered a swinger so yeah I'm in shocker

19:59No but I didn't know that at the time so from my perspective I'm thinking I got invited to a couple's party and this is trashy

20:05It's a complete shit show

20:07In the shitter the sewer does shit everywhere shit shit shit

20:12But honestly I love it but it still doesn't make it acceptable to call

20:17I'm not saying that shush

20:19What I'm saying is that I just

20:22No no I don't want to hear your judgment because you haven't even listened to what I'm saying and you were in this situation

20:27In that moment when I had just told everyone what had happened I feel like all those feelings came up and I just get kind of loose-lipped

20:34And I'm just like honestly yeah a lot of what she does is trashy and like yeah I'm not surprised that is trash

20:39So what else is trashy that I do then since a lot of it is

20:41Well I mean the whole swinging thing was trashy

20:43Sure we got that down what else

20:45No I know that's what I'm saying

20:46You're saying a lot of what I do

20:47No a lot of what we have seen like your tiktoks and like the the

20:52What tiktoks?

20:53Just tiktoks that were just super flippant about the swinging situation and just like that whole era of your life

21:00The white trash from Demi hurts me

21:02Sure I've done trashy things but right now she knows it's something I'm trying to work through

21:07I've been working through and so for her to take that jab at me

21:10Oh hell no

21:11If you're gonna take a jab at me then I'm gonna call out you for your stuff as well

21:14Do you think it's trashy to take off your dress in front of my boyfriend?

21:18What?

21:19To put your mic on?

21:20What are you talking about?

21:21You made him extremely uncomfortable because you dropped your dress to get mic'd

21:24No one else is here right?

21:26Yes come up

21:27Oh I'm sorry I literally already had my bra out when he walked in to get mic'd

21:33No you dropped it I watched you do it

21:35What?

21:36Oh my gosh what is happening right now?

21:37This is exactly what I was afraid of

21:39I would rather give birth without an epidural than sit through this any longer

21:43You had your dress full on and you didn't need to drop it to get mic'd

21:46And you took it off and you were just in your bra

21:48No

21:49And Dakota felt so uncomfortable

21:51The intention matters definitely in that moment

21:54We were in a rush situation to get the mics on

21:56I don't think it's trashy because I think

21:58Really? You don't think it's trashy pulling off your dress in front of my boyfriend?

22:02No especially because I didn't

22:03Really? So if I did that to Brett that's not trashy?

22:05No

22:06Ticks on his face?

22:07Really?

22:08Oh you think I went like this?

22:09Dakota

22:10Ooh

22:11She was turned like this and unbuttoned

22:13If you're worried about that

22:14I'm not worried

22:15That's a you and Dakota problem

22:16No Dakota felt uncomfortable

22:17He's like her bra her tits are right there like

22:20That's a him problem

22:21That's a him problem

22:22So if I go up to Brett and take off my dress in front of him

22:25And he's looking

22:26Because he actually didn't look because it's like right there

22:28That's a him problem or a my problem

22:30The situation matters

22:32I'm not the freaking swinger here

22:33I'm not the one that's going around trying to seduce other people's husbands

22:37I'm not proud of any of these things

22:39I want to put my past behind me

22:41But I don't know if these women are ever going to be able to let go of my past

22:45Don't you feel like this is a conversation you guys should have alone maybe

22:55No we're in the middle of this

22:57Like I don't feel like you guys need to hash this out obviously

23:00Yeah

23:01People are out for blood

23:02They are out for me specifically

23:04None of you are standing here clean

23:06And I'm getting pretty frustrated because Whitney was the one telling all this information

23:11Whitney who's your least favorite in the group and why

23:15Oh God

23:17Honestly I feel like right now it's to me

23:21I just feel like anything that any truth I say

23:24You say no you agreed with me you said this

23:26And I'm like but I didn't say that

23:28I don't know I just

23:30It's to me right now

23:32For me

23:33The box is done God bless

23:35We made it through about ripping each other's heads off

23:37I love that that was my idea and I feel like I just got obliterated

23:42That was a great idea

23:43The intention was there wasn't it

23:46I don't know about the truth box

23:47I think a better name for this game would have been like

23:51Murder suicide

23:55Doesn't make any sense to me

23:56I'm like you're literally gaslighting everyone right now

23:58You do realize that right?

23:59I never said that

24:00I never ever said that

24:01Yeah

24:02I'm

24:03I was kind of mad that you didn't stick up for me

24:04Me?

24:05Yeah

24:06With what?

24:07With her saying that?

24:08Because you were in the car with me and you're like I didn't hear

24:09I was like

24:10Well I'm like I'm trying to remember what's going on

24:12I don't even know what's going on

24:13I know but you would remember if I said that

24:16But that's why I said no we didn't when she first said that

24:18Because I'm like I know for a fact I didn't

24:20I know but when I was like Macy like you're in the car with me

24:23I don't think that it's fair that Whitney is saying I'm not supportive

24:27All I do is support her

24:29We are only like three hours in to this trip

24:32And I'm already like I want to pack my bags and go home

24:34Like this is some fun everyone's screaming at each other

24:37It's just like no you did say that

24:39I'm like can you just shut the fuck up

24:41I'm just like mmm

24:42Well I'll back you up if you have the conversation again

24:43Thank you

24:46I want you to know that I am not some phony person that like thinks ill of you

24:52That is talking behind your back

24:54It was a literal isolated moment

24:56And I feel like I had that resentment built up from you

24:59Regardless of like how I was feeling like I should have addressed that with you

25:02So that it didn't fester you know

25:04Yeah

25:05It was a low moment that came out in a petty way

25:07And I apologize for that

25:08It was not okay in any way

25:09Mmm

25:10Yeah

25:11Thank you for saying that

25:12I just

25:14I know we were supposed to have a room together

25:16But I think I just kind of want to sleep alone

25:18I get it

25:19You take this room

25:20You need to be comfortable

25:21I'll go to the bunk beds

25:22For real

25:23You sure?

25:24Yes

25:29Goodnight

25:30Okay goodnight

25:31I regret using the words that I did in the flippant way that I did

25:36And I do feel bad for that

25:38I experienced hurt and she did too

25:40But my intentions are pure and they are good

25:43And I'm really really hopeful that we'll be able to move forward

25:46And be stronger in our friendship than we ever have

25:49Everyone say their prayers please

25:51Can I switch sides with you really quick so I can use this eyeliner?

26:02Yep

26:03Let me move my whole bag then

26:04Oh you're fine

26:05It will take two seconds

26:06Oh

26:07You guys I'm here

26:08I'm ready

26:09The party's started now

26:10Woohoo

26:12This is the beginning

26:13Okay

26:14And we all are doing it

26:15So like you do a move

26:16And then you walk

26:17Yeah

26:18Oh that's cute

26:19Then you do the move

26:20Last night

26:21It was an absolute shit show

26:23I really hope that we can bounce back from this

26:25Because bitches

26:26It's my birthday

26:27Okay ready?

26:28So done

26:29I love this one

26:30Does everyone love this one?

26:31Okay

26:32I love that one

26:53I love that one

26:54Thank you

26:55We did it

26:56It looks cute

26:57I'm gonna go upstairs

26:58Yeah go get ready

26:59No I need you to come with me

27:01Oh

27:02See you later

27:06Have fun

27:07I will

27:08Bye guys

27:10This morning is already uncomfortable because of last night

27:16There is animosity in the air

27:18But I think that Whitney and I definitely need to sit down and have a conversation

27:23And I get to the bottom of it I'm tired of feeling this like uncomfort with group settings

27:27Where should we go?

27:28This is good

27:29This is comfy

27:30Are you stressed?

27:31Yeah I'm scared

27:32Why?

27:33Don't punch me

27:34Don't punch me

27:35I'm not gonna like come at you screaming

27:36I can't come at you

27:37No I won't think screaming just I don't know

27:40I don't know

27:41Yeah

27:42So I know you have some feelings about me

27:43Yeah

27:44I like that's no secret obviously

27:45You know like start with the baby showers when I truly like figure it out

27:48But I feel like you're really good at telling people how you feel about them straight up

27:52Yeah

27:53So I'm just curious like why I haven't been told

27:56I mean honestly I didn't tell you because I didn't feel like I needed to

27:59Because?

28:00Like I just felt like I was fine with where we were at

28:03I didn't feel like I wanted to explain it

28:05I just felt like that was an intimate thing for you and that was for close friends and family

28:09And I don't feel like I'm your close friend

28:11I'm confused on what I did

28:13There's something that like sparked you to not like me and I just was curious what it was

28:17Right after the swinger drama came out I feel like I was like trying to cultivate a relationship with you

28:22Okay

28:23I was trying to be there for you or trying to include you because I know you were ostracized from that group

28:28Um

28:31I don't know I just felt like it hasn't been reciprocated

28:34And I was like well I don't want to be friends with someone like that then

28:37It's exhausting

28:38Probably girls down there that you're not besties with but you doesn't like

28:42I'm not besties with but I love it

28:44But I've definitely had more of a connection with them more than you

28:48But I feel like I've tried

28:49It's like in the beginning I was trying to have this connection with you and it was never reciprocated

28:52I want to be asked what happened with you and Connor like are you okay?

28:55Like I feel like I have

28:59Her issue with Taylor is her issue with herself honestly

29:02Like I think it's just that she feels like she's comparing herself to Taylor

29:06And isn't living up to what the hype that Taylor's getting

29:09And so she's comparing and why is she getting the attention?

29:12Why is the public forgiving her quicker than me?

29:15I feel like I'm slowly putting the pieces together of who the real Whitney is

29:19And there are a few people in the group specifically Macy and Jen

29:25Who haven't quite seen the puzzle pieces coming together

29:29And I think it's only a matter of time before the whole facade is showcased

29:34What'd she say like I was frustrated that I keep getting shit from my RSV video

29:41And like people forgive you super quick

29:43You have a vulnerable sick child in your video

29:45I understand that back then like TikTok was very different

29:48It was like you filmed everything

29:49And it was like just throw everything out and see what sticks

29:51Yeah

29:52But looking back I'm like

29:53No even that video when she posted it caught me off guard

29:56But also that day she said that Liam was like doing a lot better

29:59So she was happy so she was trying to make like a happy video

30:01And like it just wasn't like what her intention was was not what was received

30:05She's like no my intention was to get likes and clout

30:10She admitted that to me

30:12I've never heard her hear that

30:14It was after their ketamine session

30:15It was after our ketamine session

30:16It was after our ketamine session

30:17Whitney and I did ketamine about eight months ago

30:19Which is therapy for physical trauma or emotional trauma

30:24And coming out of ketamine you are feeling things very deeply

30:28Truths are coming out about yourself that you maybe wouldn't otherwise admit

30:33And in that moment she admitted to me

30:35That video that she posted was for sympathy, likes, clout

30:39And for recognition and to gain her following

30:42I think I even might have a video of her admitting that

30:44You're like I actually needed this for blackmail

30:48In that moment I just

30:49I didn't want to hear anyone else's

30:51I just wanted everyone there to be there for me for just

30:54I'm actually glad I got called out on that

30:56Because now when I'm listening to people's stuff

30:58I'm like I want to relate but I also just want to kind of like validate their feelings first

31:02Yeah

31:03And then maybe relate, you know?

31:05But

31:06Why is she being so nice?

31:09Yeah

31:11We need someone unkind to go break it up

31:13I'm kidding

31:14Whitney tends to dismiss your feelings or even gaslight you

31:20When you express that certain things happened

31:22And that you felt a certain way

31:24She seems to flip the script and somehow become the victim of her own chaos

31:29And I'm sick of it

31:31This is exhausting

31:32I'm cursed

31:34By your name in my mind I'm disturbed

31:39You pushed me a little bit too far Whitney

31:41I'm gonna set the record straight at all costs

31:43Like I would love to be there for things you're excited about or you want like support there

31:57But I feel like when I told you my whole Connor thing, I got zero

32:01Nothing

32:02Wait, zero from who?

32:03Everyone

32:04I don't agree with that

32:06I remember reaching out to you and being there for you

32:09Honestly, I don't even know why she's here

32:10I don't even know why she presented herself in this conversation

32:13I'm just like, what's your intention?

32:15Let's talk about intention

32:16What's your intention for being here in this conversation?

32:19I feel like Taylor doesn't care about me

32:21And I don't want to be around someone like that

32:23And it's as simple as that

32:25I don't know how you expect me to work on this one

32:27I had no idea any of this

32:28And same with Demi

32:29But I don't expect you to work from this

32:30That's what I'm saying

32:31No, do all this time you did that

32:32Just leave it as it is

32:33Well now

32:34Let's just leave it

32:35The entire time I could have worked on it

32:36But I didn't care enough to say anything

32:38I didn't want to say anything

32:39But you did to everyone else

32:41You'll bring other people's stuff up to other people

32:43Like the Jen situation

32:45Like you'll take something that I said

32:47That I, by the way, told you not to say anything

32:49And you said I swear in my life I won't say it

32:50You were the one that did the truth box

32:52I never ever brought that up

32:54I told Jen

32:55And she can do with it whatever she wants to do with that

32:58Yeah, but why did you feel the need to tell Jen?

33:00Like I didn't go to Taylor being like

33:01Whitney feels this way

33:03She knew that

33:04I don't know how

33:05And if you did, I wouldn't care

33:06Okay, but you're sitting here saying that

33:08You don't care to have the conversation

33:09That you don't care to remedy these things

33:11But then you're gonna like shit on Taylor behind her back

33:13And then you're gonna come at me for something I said about Taylor

33:15How am I shitting on her?

33:16I just said to her face right now

33:17Just now?

33:18But for the last two years

33:20She hasn't heard a word of it

33:21We're the ones hearing all of it

33:22Does that bother you?

33:23Does that bother you that I didn't tell you?

33:24Yeah, it bothered me that you didn't come to my shower

33:25Just tell me like

33:26Hey, I don't wanna be friends with you

33:27Like I thought we were friends

33:29So when you didn't show up

33:30I was like

33:31It was a big deal

33:32Well, I don't regret anything

33:34I'm glad I told Jen

33:35I don't think that was wrong

33:36I'd still do it

33:37Okay, well then you're a shitty friend

33:41And then I guess don't be my friend

33:42Okay, I don't wanna be your friend

33:44If that's the way you're gonna be

33:45That's not a friend

33:46Did you not just call Taylor white trash?

33:48Were you planning on dressing that to Taylor?

33:50No, but was that your place to say?

33:52It wasn't

33:53And you don't care

33:54You don't give a shit

33:55I wish I could say I'm surprised by Whitney's behavior right now

33:58But I'm absolutely not

33:59She needs to own it

34:00Apologize

34:01Work on it

34:02And move forward

34:03It's again

34:04One of these things where she wants to become the victim of her own behavior

34:07You're hurt

34:08And that's okay

34:09I've been there

34:10Where you don't wanna give a fuck

34:11But you're hurt from

34:12Like you're hurt in life

34:13And you're gonna take it out on everyone

34:15I don't get that

34:16We hurt you

34:17I get it

34:18I don't wanna talk about that

34:19She's hurt you

34:20I've never hurt Whitney

34:21Ever

34:22But I get like where

34:23And then runs away

34:24So I guess I'm right

34:25I guess I'm right

34:26Comical

34:35Where'd she go?

34:37In there

34:38You're gonna like dish shit?

34:40Be able to take it then

34:41Me?

34:42You okay?

34:43The gloves are off baby

34:45War has just begun

34:47And you better sleep with one eye open

34:49I hate the shit of you can dish it but you can't take it

34:52That's the shit I do not see

34:54I'd be a woman

34:55You little twat

34:56What's going on?

34:57I couldn't hear everything

34:59What's wrong?

35:03She thinks it's her place to tell everyone other people shit

35:06Yeah

35:07Are you okay?

35:08When has that ever been a thing?

35:10And then as we're having a heated conversation

35:12Gets up, cries, and leans

35:15The way that Whitney talks and changes her persona in the moment of like

35:19I didn't know

35:21Well she was being a little like

35:23Oh God

35:24Be yourself

35:25Yeah

35:26Who are you right now?

35:27Because it's so different to us and then to her

35:28No

35:29It's like you want to talk about fake and behind people's back

35:31Yeah

35:32When you scare me

35:33I feel like such a pussy right now

35:35Why?

35:36You're fine

35:37No

35:38Why?

35:39You're hurt and you need space and that's like totally valid

35:43How does it feel Whitney?

35:44I literally want to go ask her

35:45How does it feel?

35:46And I try to talk to you about it upstairs

35:48You're just like

35:49And I do it again

35:50And I do it again

35:51You're a bitch

35:52I know I'm stronger than this

35:54You are strong

35:55Just cause you're crying doesn't mean you're not strong

35:57It's better to walk away than to say things that you don't actually mean

36:00So you did the strong thing by walking away

36:04Let's make this a group affair

36:06Guys

36:07No

36:08Jesus

36:09Continue telling the people everything about anyone and everyone else

36:13Demi can you just get out of the room please

36:14No I won't

36:15Nope cause you're talking about me so no I won't

36:17Demi she needs some space right now

36:19No I don't care where was she last night when she shit on me when I was literally getting attacked by everyone

36:24But you know what

36:25Where was she? What was she doing?

36:26You need to just respect that

36:27What the fuck are you talking about Jen?

36:29Shut up

36:30Guys we're both going at each other

36:31Yeah

36:32So why are you being so rude now?

36:33You're being a bitch

36:34No I'm not

36:35You are

36:36No I'm not

36:37Because I have two people right here sitting beside Whitney when last night was like the probably the most heightened experience we've experienced in this whole journey

36:46And no one said shit except for Taylor who we had the blow up

36:51Then we have a freaking minion fest over here

36:53Well I'm just

36:54Minion fest

36:55Tawawa fest

36:56Of two little puppies sitting next to Whitney being like

36:58No but listen

36:59Back off

37:00She's unstable

37:01Shhh

37:02You raising your voice isn't helping the situation

37:04I mean I'm not sitting here screaming

37:05I'm sitting here saying

37:06The way you're talking right now

37:07I have a right to be upset

37:08I'm frustrated

37:09I'm confused at where Whitney stands and I thought we were friends and that's not what a friend would do

37:14I feel like you don't even care about mom talk outside of posting

37:16Just because I told Jen what you said

37:18You go around the whole group telling everyone's everything

37:21I didn't say the white chat thing

37:22Okay does anyone else want to chime in?

37:23How Whitney will hear information and she gets close to certain people and we've kind of felt like it's a rotating door

37:29And it kind of feels like there's different people that get to be close to Whitney

37:34And when she says stuff about Taylor it's really mean behind Taylor's back and then when it's face to face she's like

37:39Oh yeah I get it

37:40And I just don't think it's fair that you can act that way and it's okay when it's not okay for Demi to do

37:46Like that just doesn't make sense to me

37:47I feel like Whitney gets close to you until she gets what she wants and then she just moves on

37:51That's just my opinion

37:52And that's why I just wanted to sit you down so you can express all of it so I know with you like I know you're saying you're not caring

37:58But I find that hard to believe I think you want to I think I just hurt you really bad

38:02Maybe I can't be your best friend right now, but I could still here and there be a friend to you

38:06Yeah

38:07I don't even know what's right and what's wrong anymore

38:10I thought that I was doing the right thing telling Jen

38:14This is Demi's feelings towards you

38:15It's a bit two-faced because then she's acting like your friend surface level but then going behind your back

38:20I don't know

38:21Oh, I don't know it's confusing

38:23I don't know what was right and I don't know what was wrong

38:27Anything else from anyone?

38:28This is your time

38:29Like now that I'm here

38:30Let it out

38:31This is your time

38:32I have something to say

38:33Weren't we supposed to go to dinner at 6?

38:35Oh shit

38:36Do we need to go?

38:37Yeah, we have to go

38:38Okay

38:39Interesting going to a happy little dinner together

38:41They're coming at us with cursed tongues made of greed and they're all looking for a fire

38:52Are you okay?

38:53I still feel like a bug

38:55It's okay! That's okay! It's okay to feel that way

39:00I think Taylor was right low and she said that like you act like you don't care but you do

39:04I know

39:05But I don't wanna care

39:06I know you don't wanna care but that's what makes you beautiful and amazing that you do care

39:11So what I thought was gonna be an empowering weekend is now all in shambles

39:16I don't like confrontation when it's in my friend group

39:19And at this point mom talk was already hanging by a thread before this trip and now we're having this happen

39:24I was like don't wanna be anyone's friend

39:26No

39:27Why?

39:28Because of what Jessie said

39:29Like what?

39:30Then I get close to people and then once I get what I want out of them then I move on

39:35I'm like what the actual fuck?

39:37Whitney's my best friend

39:39But I do think Whitney has an interesting way of handling things

39:42I definitely wouldn't have handled things the way she has

39:44And I think she kind of just like leaves when things get hard instead of trying to really figure them out

39:49And at the same time I do think it's one of those things where we have to do some more work

39:53To figure out what's going on and not just run away from it

39:57Happy birthday

40:20Did we bring Macy's presents?

40:21Probably shut up

40:22No

40:23I didn't get her one

40:24You're like I'm good because I didn't bring one

40:25Yeah I think the fem

40:27Don't flip anybody Taylor

40:28Oh my gosh

40:29Protect the belly if you fall

40:30Especially in heels

40:31Jen knows what she's doing

40:33Ugh it's the worst

40:34This is so cute

40:39Thank you

40:40Great

40:41Okay birthday girl you have to wear this the whole dinner

40:43Oh okay

40:44That's beautiful

40:46That's beautiful

40:47Okay you can adjust that

40:48Like a three by extension

40:49Yeah

40:5029 baby

40:52Feeling fine

40:53JK 21

40:5421

40:5521

40:56I'm honestly exhausted at this point like I'm so pregnant

40:59I feel bad for Macy because her birthday is being ruined

41:03I think there are times where you should just like kind of suck it up for other people

41:08So I think in this situation for Macy's dinner everyone just shutting up

41:12And let's enjoy the night for Macy

41:14Rub some dirt on it and we can cry when we get home

41:17You're taking pictures Laila

41:19Oh you are

41:20They have a pizza appetizer

41:22Dang it

41:23That sounds really good

41:24Oh

41:25A vibe really

41:26But I didn't want to share it with the table

41:27I wanted it to be my meal

41:28What did you want steak too?

41:30It's a bit lonely when you feel like

41:33All of the friends that I thought I had

41:36I guess they're not really my friends

41:38I'm looking at Demi and I'm just like

41:41You're just you look like you're on fucking cloud nine right now

41:44I have to pee real fast

41:49Everyone is acting like everything's fine

41:56It's sad

42:02I thought I was stronger than that

42:03I can't even sit there

42:04You can't

42:05No I'll be fine

42:06I'm just gonna pretend like I'm going to the bathroom

42:08Okay

42:09I think I just need to cry for a second

42:10I know

42:11Okay go ahead

42:12I'm gonna cry and then I'll be okay

42:13Are you okay?

42:14Yeah

42:15Do you need anything?

42:16No I'm okay

42:21Did she talk at all?

42:22On the way here?

42:23Yeah she's like a

42:24What'd she say?

42:25Yeah

42:26I feel like I'm like

42:27I think she feels bad too

42:28But like things that she said and stuff too

42:30Yeah I get it

42:31Trust me

42:32Literally me last night

42:33I feel like she kind of needs to feel the sting

42:35Of what her actions can bring to people

42:38So that she understands what that feels like

42:40Because it doesn't feel good

42:41Like that's below the belt stuff

42:43So it's like

42:44Whitney that's exactly what we're talking about

42:45It doesn't feel good

42:46Does it feel good?

42:47Okay I hope you don't do that moving forward

42:49You want to do it and I'll hold it

42:52Okay I can do it

42:54I can do it

42:55Happy birthday to you

42:59Happy birthday to you

43:04Happy birthday dear Macy

43:10Oh my god

43:11I know when I'm fucking in the wrong

43:13I was fucking not wrong

43:15Happy birthday to you

43:21If this is what mom talk has turned into

43:24I don't want to do this anymore

43:25I don't even know if these friendships are worth fighting for

43:27My husband is going to kill me

43:37This is my lucky poker sweatshirt

43:41He said you're playing poker

43:42I don't know that being in Sin City is the best thing for Zach

43:46Like I haven't done anything wrong

43:51No

43:52Missing person alert

43:53He's out of control

43:54This is why the sisterhood of mom talk was created in the first place

43:57She's MIA

43:58She's not answering her phone

43:59I mean maybe I watched too much true crime

44:01Oh my gosh

44:02What's all the hot gossip?

44:03She unfollowed all of us

44:04No

44:05Do you still consider them friends?

44:06Should I invite Whitney?

44:07Awkward

44:08Mom talks not what it was

44:09And I don't know if it ever will be again

44:10Mom talks not what it was

44:11Mom talks not what it was

44:12Mom talks not what it was

44:13Mom talks not what it was

44:14Mom talks not what it was

44:15Mom talks not what it was

44:16Mom talks not what it was

44:17Mom talks not what it was

44:19Mom talks not what it was

44:20And I don't know if it ever will be again

44:22Mom talks not what it was

44:23And why are you here?

44:24The one time I need support

44:25You're not there for me

44:26This is an act and I'm over it

44:29This is exhausting

44:31Cool

44:32Should you hang up on him?

44:33Yeah

44:34Should I say something to her?

44:35You're trying to stir the pot between me and Taylor

44:38I don't like him

44:39Everyone's getting married before their brains even develop

44:42I did not invite him

44:43Invite him

44:44This is for women

44:45Fuck me all week

44:46Lie to me and then

44:47If you look at it that way Taylor, yes

44:49Yeah

44:50My gosh, aren't you miserable?

44:51Yeah

44:52It's not gonna get better

44:53He's not gonna change

44:54You're gonna lose everything

44:56I don't care

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