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00:00To journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news.
00:05This is The Daily Show with your host, Josh Johnson.
00:25Welcome to The Daily Show.
00:27I'm Josh Johnson.
00:28We've got so much to talk about tonight.
00:30Trump can't stop writing IOUs.
00:32Sean Hannity's diss track just dropped.
00:34And a new breakthrough will allow you to live forever if you're a mortgage.
00:38So, let's get into the headlines.
00:45We all know the economy isn't great right now.
00:48Rent is too expensive.
00:49Grocery prices are too high.
00:51People are fist-fighting Starbucks over bear cups.
00:53That one isn't really about the economy, but I just like watching middle-aged people fight
00:59over cups.
01:01That bear has turned Starbucks into Waffle House.
01:04The point is, it's rough out there.
01:08So, no wonder last week Democrats won a ton of elections by running on affordability.
01:13And that sent President Trump into a little bit of a tailspin.
01:17You know, they have this new word called affordability, and they don't talk about it enough.
01:21We are the ones that have done great on affordability.
01:24They've done horribly on affordability.
01:26Affordability, they call it, was a con job by the Democrats.
01:29We are the victors on affordability.
01:32I don't want to hear about the affordability, because right now we're much less.
01:42Damn.
01:43That man just went through the five stages of affordability.
01:46And I get why he feels threatened, because normally he can just lie.
01:51But you're the president, and people know if they ate or not.
01:54It doesn't matter how many hats they buy or how many photos of him and Epstein they pretend
02:00they didn't see.
02:02You can hear your stomach growling when you're hungry.
02:05They're not going to be like, that must be an illegal immigrant in my stomach stirring
02:10up trouble.
02:11Get out of there, immigrant.
02:13Get out of there.
02:16But you know what?
02:17If Trump wants to focus on affordability right now, that's great.
02:20There's a lot of stuff that's too expensive.
02:22For example, houses.
02:24No one can afford a home.
02:25Everybody keeps waiting for him to show up on Prime Day, but it never happens.
02:31So maybe Trump could do something to bring down mortgages.
02:34The Trump administration moves forward with a plan to introduce 50-year mortgages.
02:44Or you can make them much longer, you know?
02:47Because you know where we'll all be in 50 years.
02:50Dead.
02:51You know what I mean?
02:52This seems like a bad idea.
02:54And if black people could get loans, I'd be worried.
02:57But hey.
02:59Hey.
03:00Maybe I'm just hating.
03:01All right?
03:02I mean, how much would a 50-year mortgage save people?
03:05Take a $400,000 loan at 6% interest.
03:08Under a 30-year mortgage, the monthly payment would be just shy of $2,400.
03:13Under a 50-year loan, it drops to just over $2,100.
03:16A savings of nearly $300 a month.
03:18Oh, boy.
03:20$300 a month?
03:27See?
03:27It's not a stupid idea.
03:29You know what?
03:30I'm going to apply for a 50-year mortgage right now.
03:35But over time, that savings is erased by a much larger interest bill.
03:39Because while the total interest on a 30-year loan would be about $463,000, the interest on
03:45a 50-year loan would total more than $860,000.
03:56Signed, Ronnie Chang.
03:58So you're saying that after interest, a $400,000 mortgage is going to cost me $1.3 million.
04:15That is the opposite of affordability.
04:17This man is creating generational debt.
04:22They're going to be fighting to get out of Grandma's will.
04:24Like, grandkids will be like, I barely knew her, all right?
04:32I wouldn't even hug her at Christmas because her skin was too loose.
04:38But look, forget mortgages.
04:41Because Trump's got other plans to make sure you afford whatever you want.
04:44You're going to be exhausted from affording.
04:47You're going to afford everywhere.
04:48President Trump now says he wants to send out $2,000 rebate checks paid for by his tariffs.
04:56One of the things we're going to do, we're going to issue a dividend to our middle-income
05:01people and lower-income people of about $2,000.
05:05Wait a second.
05:06Okay.
05:07Trump's making everybody pay tariffs, but only poor people are getting the $2,000 checks.
05:12So he's just redistributing taxes from rich people to poor people.
05:18Did...
05:19Did Donald Trump just stupid himself into socialism?
05:22I mean, I mean, you're doing a great job, Mr. President.
05:34Uh, we always believed.
05:37Everybody, shut up, all right?
05:44Don't say a word.
05:45Let this play out, and we'll have free health care by Christmas, all right?
05:51Nobody, nobody, nobody call him Mango Mamdani, all right?
06:02Great idea, Mr. President.
06:04Very capitalism.
06:07But, hey, you know what?
06:10$2,000 would help a lot of people.
06:11If the money's there, the money's there.
06:14If the president sent $2,000 checks to the $150 million people who make less than $100,000,
06:19it would cost $300 billion, even though the tariffs are only projected to raise about $217 annually.
06:27The money's not there.
06:28And now I'm starting to get worried because that's $83 billion short.
06:34And I'm not saying Trump is the worst president of all time.
06:37I'm just saying I've never met anyone who was $83 billion short.
06:43And by the way, he's only $83 billion short if he hasn't promised the tariff money to anybody else.
06:48We're going to take some of that tariff money that we made, we're going to give it to our farmers.
06:52The big thing we want to do is pay down debt.
06:55The president tapped into tariff revenue to keep WIC money for women and infants and children going out the door.
07:01Tariffs is one of the reasons why we have the money in the Treasury to actually be able to pay our troops.
07:06I think the tariffs will be enough to cut all of the income tax.
07:10Donald Trump's suggesting that tariffs could fund the country's child care needs.
07:14That'll easily pay for the Golden Dome.
07:16And we'll have a lot of money left over.
07:19Money left over?
07:21The money that never existed is already spent.
07:25And you're running around the country promising money you do not have to multiple people many times over.
07:31Every week I'm at this desk, I say this, and I guess I'll have to say this for three more years,
07:35but this is crackhead behavior.
07:47Please, for America's sake, you can't go down this path.
07:51This is going to end up with you behind the White House with China doing unspeakable things for money.
08:00Please reassure us when you are promising money to people, you have an idea where it's coming from.
08:05You put out a truth social post earlier today where you blasted the air traffic controllers who had not shown up for work
08:12and offered potentially a bonus of $10,000 for those who have worked despite the shutdown.
08:18I'm sending them a $10,000 bonus.
08:19Where's that money coming from?
08:21I don't know.
08:22I'll get it from someplace.
08:23Somebody please hide the dumpster behind the White House.
08:34For more on Trump's plan to give everyone $2,000, let's go live to the White House with our own Grace Kuhlenschmidt.
08:40Grace, you've been reporting on this story.
08:52Is this a serious plan?
08:54Absolutely not, Josh.
08:57A $2,000 tariff dividend is such a stupid plan, it's laughable.
09:02But I want $2,000, God, I want it so f***ing bad.
09:12But you just said it's stupid.
09:14Oh, it's one of the dumbest things this dumb, dumb president has ever done.
09:18It's going to bankrupt the country and drive inflation through the roof.
09:23But on the other hand, mommy want that money, mommy want that money so bad.
09:28Grace, let me explain.
09:31You've already paid this money in tariffs.
09:34Right.
09:34I am aware consumers have been shouldering the costs of these tariffs.
09:39I'm not stupid.
09:40But I am American, so $2,000, please.
09:47No, come on.
09:48We've got to be better citizens than that.
09:49There are better ways to spend the money.
09:51Definitely.
09:53We could put it toward Medicare for all.
09:55Or paying down the debt.
09:57And there's one other program that slipped my mind.
10:02But maybe two G's might help refresh my memory.
10:08I'm not paying you the money.
10:10Then shut the f*** up and let Trump pay me!
10:15So that's it then.
10:16Americans are fine bankrupting the future for some money today.
10:19It's not just money, Josh.
10:21Oh, my God.
10:22It's 2,000 monies.
10:24Forget Mabdani's free buses.
10:28With 2,000 monies, I could buy my own bus.
10:32You can't buy a bus with 2,000 monies.
10:34I mean, dollars.
10:36Why are you so hard for cash anyway?
10:38I'm really behind on my 50-year mortgage.
10:40I'm really behind on my 50-year mortgage.
10:42Grace Koen-Schmidt, everyone.
10:45When we come back, we check in on award season.
10:48So don't go away.
10:49Welcome back to The Daily Show.
11:09If you've been to the movie theater lately, which you haven't, you know that award season
11:14is officially upon us.
11:15So let's get all the latest award show news in another edition of Who Wanted Best.
11:20Oh, welcome to Who Wanted Best, where we cover the only reason to do anything, awards.
11:36I'm Emmy Award winner Desi Lydic.
11:43And I'm a thin gay guy, Troy Iwata.
11:45You know, this past week was packed with award shows, and as you probably guessed, we have
11:53to start off by talking about the highly anticipated Bellator Awards.
11:58Oh, yes, of course, the Bellator Awards.
12:02Everybody knows what the Bellator Awards are.
12:05We don't even have to explain it.
12:06Nor should we.
12:07No.
12:08No.
12:09Let's talk about this year's keynote speaker, the glamorous, the debonair, the sex symbol
12:14of our time.
12:15Steve Bannon.
12:17I will tell you right now, as God is my witness, if we lose the midterms and we lose 2028,
12:26some in this room are going to prison, myself included.
12:36I told myself I wouldn't cry at the Bellator Awards again.
12:40Every year, like clockwork, here we are.
12:42Of course, like everyone, I watch the Bellator Awards for the fashion.
12:48Can we talk about Steve's fashion?
12:49Well, I think we have to.
12:51It's just incredible.
12:52He's wearing a shirt by Gucci, a coat by a dumpster, and then another shirt that's vintage
13:001942 Hugo Boss that we've been told not to ask questions about.
13:04Hmm.
13:05Lock him up before some other woman does.
13:10But of course, the Bellator Awards were just the appetizer to last week's main course, the
13:16Fox Nation Patriot Awards.
13:18where those who win are declared the most patriotic Americans, and those who lose are never heard
13:25from again.
13:27So fun!
13:28It's so fun!
13:29It's so fun!
13:30It's fun!
13:31It's fun!
13:32It's fun!
13:33It's fun!
13:34It's fun!
13:35And returning as the host with the most head circumference, Sean Hannity, let's see that
13:41charismatic melon in action.
13:43Oh yeah!
13:44Boom!
13:45Boom!
13:46Boom!
13:47Boom!
13:48Boom!
13:49Boom!
13:50Boom!
13:51Boom!
13:52Boom!
13:53Boom!
13:54Boom!
13:55Boom!
13:56Boom!
13:57Wow!
13:58The crowd is loving it!
13:59The vocal commitment, the stage presence.
14:00The fine motor skills!
14:01Right!
14:02I mean, how- how does he do it?
14:04I just- I just want more!
14:06Please tell me it goes on for an excruciatingly long time.
14:09Start spreading the news, I'm leaving today, no longer want to be a part of it, high-tax
14:24New York, these Kami Mandani Blues are longing to leave, right to the very heart of it.
14:39Bye-bye, New York.
14:48It was the perfect song with definitely the correct amount of syllables.
14:53It was so good, it was so good I could die now, I want to die now, I might kill myself.
15:01But Sean Hannity wasn't the only megawatt celebrity to grace this stage, the show was full of stars.
15:07What do you hear, the lineup is sick, it's great, it's fun, it's going to be amazing, just hanging out with Jason Aldean backstage.
15:15Give it up, Jason Aldean!
15:21By the way, Jason Aldean is going to be back on this stage.
15:25We have a special treat for you, because Jason is coming back out.
15:30All right, all right, ready for more star power?
15:33Back.
15:34I love Jason Aldean.
15:37No way!
15:39They got Jason Aldean five times?
15:44I mean, how can you say no to performing at the Fox News Patriot Awards?
15:48It's an opportunity to be heard by millions of people who are no longer on speaking terms with their children.
15:54You know, but it wasn't just glitz and glam.
15:57Hannity also gave us a classic heartfelt awards show moment.
16:01I doubt there's a person in this room right now that would have ever bet 30 years ago
16:08that this thing, not only that Ainsley Earhart would date the other thing,
16:17but she will be my wife.
16:24I love you, sweetheart.
16:28Who is it?
16:30What?
16:32Mike Walsh is here?
16:34Mike, stand up.
16:35Good to see you, buddy.
16:38Oh, my God.
16:41Oh, my God.
16:42Sean Hannity and Ainsley Earhart and I guess Mike Waltz are going to be together forever.
16:48If those three bottoms can't make it work, no one can.
16:52No one.
16:54But of course, of course, all this was just a lead up to the big prize of the night,
16:58the Patriot of the Year.
17:00Oh, who's it going to be?
17:02Who's it going to be?
17:03No, don't tell me.
17:04Don't tell me.
17:05I want to be surprised.
17:06Okay, tell me.
17:07No, don't tell me.
17:07I want to find out like everyone else.
17:09Roll the clip, Manny.
17:11Join me in welcoming Fox Nation's Patriot of the Year, the First Lady of the United States
17:19of America, Melania Trump.
17:22Melania won just a year after her husband won the exact same award?
17:38What are the chances?
17:40What?
17:40What?
17:40What?
17:41What?
17:41What?
17:41What are the chances?
17:43What are the chances?
17:43We never know.
17:46It's official.
17:47They are awards royalty.
17:49The Trumps are now up there with the Coppolas, some of the Culkins, and the Jillian's Hall.
17:54And Melania wasted no time doing the most patriotic things she could do, plugging her movie.
18:02The silver screen and I have been in deep conversation lately.
18:07You may have heard the news.
18:10I produced a new film with Amazon MGM named Melania, capturing my life, my business, my
18:19philanthropy, fostering the future, building my East Wing team, and of course, caring for
18:25my family.
18:26It was the perfect speech with definitely the correct amount of syllables.
18:35And by the way, such a classy move to shout out her East Wing team after they were all buried
18:40alive during the demolition.
18:43R.I.P.
18:44R.I.P.
18:46So fun!
18:47That's so fun!
18:48It's fun!
18:49We have so much fun!
18:51It's fun!
18:51That's your award show, Rambach!
18:53I mean, I can't wait until next year.
18:55I hear they're trying to get Jason Aldean.
18:58Oh!
18:59Do you think he'll be available?
19:01I don't know.
19:01Is there anything in this cup?
19:03Nope!
19:03Cheers!
19:09Thank you, Desi and Troy.
19:10When we come back, Rob Wiggle will be joining me on the show.
19:13Don't go away.
19:25Welcome back to The Daily Show.
19:28My guest tonight is not only an actor and comedian, he's a former Daily Show correspondent and
19:33a U.S. Marine Corps veteran.
19:35His new memoir is called Grit, Spit, and Never Quit, A Marine's Guide to Comedy and Life.
19:40Please welcome back Rob Wiggle.
20:02You guys have made some seriously awesome upgrades to this place.
20:05Oh.
20:06Yeah.
20:06Yeah.
20:07What's it like to be back?
20:09It's awesome.
20:10Yeah.
20:10Uh, really, this place looks amazing, uh, compared to the dump it was back in the day.
20:17Uh, but that one little kitchenette area is still the same.
20:19Yeah, yeah.
20:20I did notice that, which I kind of appreciate.
20:22It'll never change.
20:23It'll never change.
20:23That old crusty coffee pot.
20:25So, yeah, that was nice.
20:26It was crusty when you were there, too.
20:28It was crusty.
20:28Exactly.
20:30Now, thank you so much for joining me.
20:32Thank you so much for coming.
20:33I've been watching you for so long.
20:35I actually, without knowing it, I went on, like, a Rob Wiggle marathon.
20:40I had watched Step Brothers, The Hangover, and just lots of episodes of Martin Family.
20:45And it, I felt wild, because I was like, man, is something going on in my life where the
20:53same person is in everything?
20:54Like, yeah, I think you could write a thesis on that.
20:59I think someone did write a thesis on, like, Michael Caine, you know.
21:03At any given time, you can catch a Michael Caine film.
21:06Oh, you're blowing my mind.
21:08Yeah, exactly.
21:09We're about to get Matrix level.
21:10Weird.
21:11Yeah, yeah.
21:11Oh, so you have this book, and you are not only, uh, you know, a veteran of The Daily Show,
21:18but Marine Corps veteran and everything.
21:20I think, I'm, I'm curious, what is it like to do comedy and be in the military?
21:28Because in just my experience, really just speaking for myself, most comedians are cowards.
21:35Yeah, uh, you know, people do ask that question, or a form of that question a lot, which is,
21:41you know, the military and comedy, how does that, you know, how does that jive?
21:44It doesn't.
21:45They're two totally separate lanes.
21:47Uh, but, um, I do think that there is some crossover, uh, as far as, like, the intangibles
21:52go, you know, the mindset.
21:54You know, working in comedy and, and a life in the arts, you're going to be rejected.
21:59You're going to hear the word no.
22:00You're going to be knocked down.
22:02You're going to be told you're no good.
22:03You're going to run into obstacles nonstop.
22:05Um, it's a hard life.
22:06There's no money.
22:08That's very similar to the Marine Corps.
22:09Yeah.
22:10Yeah.
22:11So, um, yeah, there's a lot of parallels in that regard, but I do think, uh, the Marines
22:17did give me certain things, like, uh, the mind, the proper mindset, the right mindset
22:21that, uh, you just don't quit.
22:24Make that, make that decision before you start, and chances are good things will happen.
22:28Yeah.
22:28No, that makes sense, because it feels like in the Marines you would get the sort of
22:32literal version of everything comedy gives you as a metaphor.
22:35Like, when I get knocked down, someone didn't laugh.
22:38I didn't actually get hit, you know what I mean?
22:41Like, that, that is, that is, is wild, because even in your, your, your story, like, your
22:48personal story in the book, it's like, at 24, you decide you were going to do comedy, and
22:52so you made it work with the military, but at the same time, you wanted to be on SNL, and,
22:58and you had, like, set this goal to be on SNL, and then you did it, like, at, like, the
23:0310-year mark or something, right?
23:04Yeah, yeah.
23:05It was, well, I was, I was in flight school, um, and I'll try to give you the Reader's
23:09Digest version of this story, because it's long, but, uh, matter of fact, it's right
23:12here in this book, everybody.
23:13Oh!
23:18Just, just shameless, shameless, shameless plugging.
23:22No, but it is convenient to have it right here.
23:24It is very nice to have it right here.
23:25It's so good.
23:26Uh, no, I, I was in the, uh, again, Reader's Digest version.
23:29I was in the Marine Corps.
23:30I was flying planes down in Corpus Christi, Texas.
23:32I had a friend of mine who was up in Chicago doing improv, and he said, Riggle, this is
23:37what we did in college, only it has a name.
23:39It's called improv, and I think you're good at it.
23:41I think you're better than some of the people up here.
23:43Well, that's exactly what I needed to hear at that moment, because flight school was
23:46fine, but I wasn't loving it.
23:47It was just fine.
23:48Um, and once I pinned those wings on, I was in for 10 years.
23:52I was locked in.
23:53Then I figured, oh, my God, I'll probably do 20 at that point.
23:56Why would I get out at such a, ah!
23:57So all of a sudden, I was like, that's happening, you know?
23:59Well, I sat down and had my quarter-life crisis, as they call it, and I said, what do I really,
24:05really want to do with my life?
24:07And I said, I think I want to be a comedian.
24:08Now, mind you, I had never done anything comedically.
24:12I know no one in the business.
24:13I'd never been on stage.
24:14I'd never really done anything.
24:15But I just had this, this burning desire to do it.
24:19So I quit flight school, became, uh, went to the ground side on the Marines, um, which allowed
24:24me to, you know, fulfill my contract, uh, with the Marines, and then moved to Chicago.
24:28And I ended up getting to New York, taking classes, um, uh, working seven years, grinding,
24:35uh, at every place around town, any place I could get stage time, studying with the UCB,
24:40all these things.
24:42Ended up deploying, going to, uh, Kosovo, ended up going to Afghanistan, working on 9-11
24:46down in the rebel piles.
24:48Ended up doing a bunch of things.
24:49And sure enough, 10 years, almost to the day that I wrote down in the book, the, this
24:55book I was reading at the time, I wrote down in the book, if I quit flight school, I'm
24:58going to do what?
24:59Number one, get on SNL.
25:01Almost 10 years to the day that I wrote that, I got a call from Lorne Michaels asking me
25:05to join SNL.
25:06So, it happens.
25:09Man.
25:10Yeah.
25:10That's incredible.
25:12Yeah.
25:12Uh.
25:13That's like, like, that's truly, truly remarkable.
25:15Because plenty of people have, like, plans, ideas for what they want to, want to do.
25:20They might even write them down.
25:22And then 10 years later, they're like, that's where I left that piece of paper.
25:25You know what I mean?
25:26Like, you, yeah, you made it happen.
25:28And, and you, in the book, you talk about how there's, like, this sort of, like, inner
25:32drill sergeant that gets you to do the things that you don't want to do.
25:36How do you, how do you, without getting yelled at, manage to create that drill sergeant for
25:44yourself?
25:45Well, I think everybody needs a drill sergeant, uh, in their life of some form.
25:51A coach.
25:51You can call it whatever you want to call it.
25:53And if you're lucky enough to have someone in your life external to you to remind you,
25:57hey, get up.
25:58Go work out.
26:00Go, uh, go read that book.
26:01Pick up the phone and call that person you're avoiding because you don't think it's the
26:05right time.
26:06Or that, uh, you know, somebody, if somebody's pushing you, you have a chance of doing it.
26:10For the most of us, we just don't have anybody pushing us.
26:13And you never will.
26:14That's what most people don't realize.
26:16You're never going to have anybody pushing you.
26:16You have to be your own drill instructor.
26:19You have to be.
26:19So I've had many conversations with myself.
26:22And I learned that voice came out and it came out in the form of a drill instructor because
26:26if I was being honest with myself, I was being lazy.
26:29I was being, I was afraid.
26:31These are the reasons that I didn't do the things that I know I should be doing.
26:35And so it took a drill instructor, uh, tone to get me off my butt to go do what I needed
26:42to do.
26:43And I, I remember I was on 31st and 7th.
26:46I had just taught an improv class and I knew there was, uh, I was going to be invited to
26:51audition for SNL and I needed to develop these characters for my audition, but I was exhausted.
26:57I had been up.
26:58I had, I had done, uh, PT physical training with the Marines that morning since 5 a.m.
27:02So, you know, it was nine o'clock, 10 o'clock at night.
27:05I was tired.
27:05I just wanted to go home and have a burrito and go to bed.
27:08And I had to stand on the corner of 31st and 7th screaming at myself out loud.
27:13So I'm not uncommon in New York, by the way.
27:17And I stood there and I argued with myself and I was like, go, go down to the UCB.
27:22It's open mic.
27:23You do sign up for five minutes and just work out a character.
27:25I don't have anything to do.
27:26I don't even have a character.
27:27I don't care.
27:28Go make one up.
27:29I'm having an argument with myself, right?
27:31This is what you do.
27:32Improvise a character.
27:33Just come up with, I don't even care what you do.
27:34So I lost the argument with my drill instructor and I went down.
27:38I didn't go home.
27:39I went down to the UCB and I created two characters that night that I ended up using in my audition.
27:44And then I ended up getting the thing.
27:46But I, I could easily, I can make excuses all day.
27:50I'm very good at it.
27:52I could have easily gone home.
27:53I could have said, I'll start tomorrow.
27:55I'm tired.
27:56Let's call it a day.
27:57But sometimes you got to kick your own butt.
27:59No, that makes a lot of sense.
28:01That makes a lot of sense.
28:08And, and to me, it's also just such a phenomenal outlook.
28:11Because now, when I'm on the subway, I'll be like, maybe that's just his inner drill instructor coming out.
28:16You know what I mean?
28:18Right?
28:18Yeah.
28:19Right?
28:19You might, you might look at folks a little different.
28:21I'll move with less fear.
28:22You know what I mean?
28:24Exactly.
28:24So do you, do you find that these sort of lessons that you took away from the military and, you know, you were doing comedy while you were still serving and everything.
28:35But like, do you think that the, the overlap is, is like incredibly strong?
28:41Or do you think it was just strong because of your approach to comedy and your personality?
28:46With regard to me being in the Marines and, and...
28:49Yeah, yeah, because, because the way that you marry these parallels together in the book is really interesting and they're ways I've never thought about it.
28:55I've been doing comedy for a while.
28:57Like, you know, we even have, um, a bit of a, a similar track, except mine included no military.
29:04Uh...
29:05But I sort of, you know, started comedy in Chicago, moved to New York, all that stuff, and, and did some improv classes and everything.
29:13And, and, yeah, I guess I, there, there's, there's something about your approach in the book that seems so, like, personal, even though you're applying it in this, in this broad way.
29:23Yeah, I think there's, well, going back to, uh, you know, uh, I think there's a lot of intangibles.
29:28I think the, you know, the, it's a mindset thing.
29:32I think if you choose a life in the arts, it's going to be an uphill battle.
29:36And you're, you're, you're never going to feel quite satisfied, and you're always going to be self-judging.
29:42And you, you really, it requires a lot of, um, uh, uh, mental, maybe, or emotional fortitude, because you're going to, you're going to just run into walls and obstacles nonstop.
29:55And you have to really believe in what you're doing, and you have to love what you're doing to overcome those things.
29:59Because it, the, the temptation to quit is way too easy.
30:03Way too easy.
30:05Um, and, yeah, and then you, if you get that mindset, and you, you put a little, if you, if you put the right, uh, uh, ingredient,
30:12and I think good things will come, um, there is no secret to success.
30:16It's not a secret.
30:18It's, it's what you would expect.
30:20It just kind of sucks.
30:21It's, it's hard work.
30:23It's discipline.
30:23It's consistency.
30:25It's getting back up when you get knocked down.
30:27It's not taking no for an answer.
30:29It's just continue to grind, continue to seek every opportunity you can, continue to grow, find ways to grow.
30:35Don't let people define you.
30:37You define yourself.
30:38All the cliches that are out there, they didn't just fall from the sky.
30:41They, they, they appeared because of, this has been tried and true year, in and out, year after year after year for millennia, so.
30:48Yeah, yeah.
30:49That makes sense.
30:50And then, do you, I guess your transition fully to sort of civilian life from being in the military,
30:57and, and everything you said was, um, an easier thing for you because you had lanes that you, like, kept things in?
31:05Like, you had sort of mindsets for when you were in one thing and the other?
31:08Do you have advice for veterans who are having trouble with that, like, adjustment back to civilian life?
31:14Yeah, you know, I, I do work with a lot of veterans organizations, and one of the, the problems we're seeing with a lot of our Afghan and Iraq veterans, um, you know, we have a suicide problem, uh, with, with a lot of our veterans.
31:27Uh, it's because they isolate themselves, they, they, they, they, uh, refuse to reach out, and it's, uh, it's, I don't know how you want to classify it,
31:39but it's not, it's not uncommon, really, among first responders or veterans or any, anybody, really.
31:44It's, it's hard to put your hand in the air and say, I need help, um, but that's the, that's the one thing you, you should do and you need to do
31:52because when you isolate, you start a path downhill, and it becomes very, very hard.
31:58So, uh, if, uh, there are veterans out there that are, you know, transitioning back to civilian life or whatever and, and looking for, you know, uh, don't isolate.
32:07There's all kinds of amazing, uh, organizations out there to help you.
32:11Um, uh, you've got a great set of skills that you learned in the military.
32:15Just bring them forward because they, they will apply.
32:18Even if it's not a direct application, just trust that, you know, if you've got the fortitude that you learned in the military,
32:25it'll carry over into civilian life, too.
32:27I, um, I, I ask everyone that I interview, you know, when we start to wrap up the interview,
32:33if we could do it in a way that is a little bit special, just you and I, right?
32:37And I, I noticed, you know, from when I saw you backstage and when you came out that, you know, you're, you're a big guy.
32:44You're, you're like a strong guy and everything.
32:46I actually asked them to make sure your seat was a little lower so we'd be more level.
32:49I believe that.
32:50You know what I mean?
32:51Um, and so, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're too big to arm wrestle.
32:56I got to bring you down to my level, but I do text a lot.
33:00So what about a thumb wrestle?
33:01Does that?
33:03Yeah, okay.
33:03Okay, all right.
33:05All right.
33:07Okay.
33:10Oh, your hands are huge.
33:12Okay.
33:14All right.
33:14Now, do you do the whole count off?
33:16Uh, we can do the count off.
33:17Okay.
33:18All right.
33:18You ready?
33:18Uh, one, two, three, four.
33:21I announce a thumb war.
33:24Right?
33:24Is that how you, and then I go like that?
33:26Oh, I thought it was going to be the, like, five, six, seven, eight thing, but we can.
33:28Are you going to use that?
33:29Uh, uh, uh, uh.
33:31Not, uh, okay.
33:32Oh, oh, oh.
33:33Ha.
33:33Ha.
33:34Ha.
33:35Ha.
33:35Ha.
33:40No.
33:41No.
33:42No.
33:45Brit Spit and Never Quit is available now.
33:48Rob Riggle.
33:51We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this.
33:54Thanks, man.
33:55That's our show for tonight.
34:12Now, here it is.
34:12The Moment of Zen.
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