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Body in the Water (2025) Season 1 Episode 9 - Body in the Swamp
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00:30In Louisiana lies an area of desolate swampland, known as Whiskey Bay.
00:40Midway between Lafayette and Baton Rouge, it belongs to the Atchafalaya River Basin,
00:47the largest swamp in the United States, covering more than a million acres.
00:55It's a very rural location, very swampy, a lot of open land. It's not developed.
01:07Across Whiskey Bay runs the Atchafalaya Basin Bridge, carrying the Interstate 10 Highway.
01:14It's America's third-longest bridge. But this area is infamous for another reason.
01:23During the daytime and nighttime, there is known to be a lot of traffic on the Interstate.
01:28But once you leave that Interstate, it's total darkness.
01:31It's a very secluded area, and at nighttime, you can't see your hand in front of your face.
01:37It's just that dark out in that area.
01:40Because of how dark it can be, it's easy for people to travel this area and sometimes try to conceal evidence, our bodies.
01:48It was around 11 o'clock a.m. I was notified through dispatch and was informed that there was a body in Whiskey Bay.
02:03And once I got that call, just stepped up, went into duty, and proceeded to the body.
02:08I get a phone call. It's a female called in by a fisherman.
02:14Lo and behold, I head out to the Whiskey Bay area.
02:19The body was floating in the middle of the swampland.
02:23So the only way detectives could access it was by boat.
02:27When I made it here, the boat was already here. The fire department boat was here.
02:31And the chief of the fire department, who's also a corner investigator, was the one riding the boat.
02:38This is where we launched the boat at for the fire department.
02:45This is where we deployed at.
02:49It was a race against time.
02:52Investigators needed to find the body before vital evidence was destroyed.
02:56Swampy areas like this tend to be in high bacteria environments, usually warm, full of different aquatic animals.
03:15You got alligators, you got snakes, you got everything.
03:18You got fish, you got crawfish.
03:20So the quicker we get to that body, the better off for us, because it can change a scene real quick.
03:27They are likely to eat or at least nibble on the evidence.
03:33What trauma did this environment now cause to the body?
03:37The shallow depth of the swamp also meant much warmer water temperatures.
03:42During that time of the year, April is starting to warm, right?
03:47A terrible factor for a body.
03:50Decomposition can start immediately.
03:55One of the more common things that happens with postmortem decomposition
04:01and is enhanced often in the water environment is the sloughing of the skin.
04:07Since we identify a lot of bodies by fingerprints,
04:12if the skin of the hands is sloughing off and decomposing,
04:17it's very challenging to get appropriate fingerprints that are usable for identifying a body.
04:25On the interstate, there's a mile marker for each section of the interstate.
04:29And we were told it was around a 130 to 132 mile marker area.
04:35So we head west, and lo and behold, around the 131, 132 is where we locate the body.
04:44It was a young Caucasian female that was partially submerged in the water.
04:51When we pull up to the body, you know, we slow down, we go slow,
04:54because we don't want to make any waves, because that'll create a wave,
04:57and it would also affect the crime scene as well if there's anything laying next to the body.
05:02So we ease up on it, and the body was submerged partially, but it was face down.
05:07As we pull up to the body, I noticed there was a cluster of trees,
05:11like little young trees that were growing up in that water right there.
05:14The deceit was observed to be caught up in several of the cypress trees,
05:20the stumps and branches that were present within this body of water.
05:24Areas such as these are not easily accessible to most people,
05:28which leads investigators to think there was no way she could have naturally gotten to that position.
05:33I'm looking around. I'm trying to figure out where did she come from?
05:36How did she get here?
05:37I'm looking for another boat.
05:38Is there a boat brick?
05:40Is a boat capsized?
05:42Don't see any of that.
05:43But investigators noticed something strange about one of the trees.
05:49On that tree, I remember specifically seeing branches were broken.
05:53So I look up, you know, and there's the interstate.
05:55And at that particular point in time where she's at, when I'm looking up,
05:59it's probably a 20, 25-foot drop from the top of that bridge.
06:03Automatically, I thought she was thrown over the top of the bridge.
06:07And the industry thought it could have been a possible car accident,
06:09and somebody got ejected over the edge.
06:13What they discovered next raised more questions about this theory.
06:18Once myself and the guy from the fire department turned her body over,
06:22we realized she was completely nude.
06:25Just a nude, deceased body.
06:29There's no way this person could just pop up there out of the blue.
06:34Something had to happen.
06:39They removed the body from the water to investigate further.
06:43I grabbed her ankles in the corner, grabbed her up under the arms,
06:50and we lifted her up, and we placed her in the body bag inside of the boat with us.
06:56This is where we returned and brought her body up,
06:59where the coroner pronounced her dead.
07:01But from there, we took her to the morgue.
07:06The next thing that we need to do is try to identify who this young lady is.
07:10She's naked, in the middle of nowhere, no identification.
07:14So we have to identify her so we can start trying to work back
07:18and try to see and figure out what has happened to this young lady.
07:23She did have some tattoos that we were able to look at
07:26and try to see if we could add anything in the database for tattoos
07:29or anything like that, skin markings.
07:31However, there was nothing that would have identified her.
07:36Then, pathologists provided a breakthrough.
07:42In this case, the fingerprints were relatively preserved.
07:45Had she been in the water longer than that, they may have been obliterated.
07:49And oftentimes, bodies in water get something like we call washerwoman fingers.
07:54And it's like when you are in the bathtub too long
07:56and your skin begins to wrinkle up.
07:58Then it may be impossible to get fingerprints
08:01until we're able to puff up those ridges.
08:05We will do that by taking a hypodermic needle
08:08and putting saline very lightly under the skin
08:12just to make that ridge detail in the skin
08:14more accessible to doing fingerprints.
08:17Thank God we found her when we did
08:19because had she been in there a couple more days or longer,
08:22decomposition sets in,
08:24it might have been impossible other than dental record.
08:27We actually got lucky with it
08:29because we got fingerprints off that body.
08:33While fingerprint databases were searched,
08:35the team uncovered something else.
08:39We learned about a traffic accident
08:41that it also occurred on the bridge in the general area.
08:44And we had to rule that out
08:45because you never know if that crash
08:48had something to do with this body.
08:51One of the occupants had a criminal history.
08:55One of them was known to be arrested
08:58for transportation of prostitution.
09:00So, you know, was she kidnapped?
09:03And was she a victim of sex trafficking?
09:06You know, everything started going through our head,
09:08you know, human trafficking.
09:10You make your hair on the back of your neck stand up.
09:14Human trafficking is something
09:21that's been a huge problem in the United States
09:23as well as abroad.
09:24And it essentially involves forcing,
09:27often young women, into having sex for money.
09:31It can involve kidnapping victims
09:33and then trafficking them
09:35and taking them from state to state.
09:36But from a trafficker perspective,
09:38the commodity, of course, is the victim.
09:41And so you don't tend to see murders
09:45in human trafficking situations
09:47unless it's a drug overdose
09:48or it's a bad date that's gone too far
09:52or there's been some kind of conflict
09:55between the pimp and the victim.
09:58But when the fingerprint results came back,
10:02they revealed the victim
10:04was 28-year-old mother of two,
10:07Elizabeth Farrell,
10:08a store assistant with no known connections
10:11to sex trafficking or prostitution.
10:15Blood found in the suspicious accident vehicle
10:18also raised doubts.
10:19The DNA was not for Ms. Farrell.
10:25Absolutely nothing to do with that crash.
10:29But Elizabeth Farrell's identification
10:31raised another major question.
10:34Well, when they first came back
10:35and we realized she was from Humboldt, Texas,
10:37I was like, why is she here from Humboldt, Texas?
10:41The city of Humboldt, Texas
10:43lies 230 miles west
10:45of where Elizabeth was found.
10:47Our next step is trying to figure out
10:51how did she get from Texas to here?
10:54Why is she here?
10:56And we're missing a few pieces here
10:57and we need to put these pieces together
10:59to complete this puzzle.
11:00In Whiskey Bay, Louisiana,
11:19detectives are investigating
11:20after the naked body of a woman
11:22was found in a swamp
11:23beneath Interstate Highway 10.
11:27Fingerprints reveal the woman
11:29and his 28-year-old mother of two,
11:30Elizabeth Farrell,
11:32who lived 230 miles away in Texas.
11:36So, how did she get here?
11:39I'm looking on the bank.
11:40I don't see anything disturbed on the banks.
11:43So, I get my detective out
11:44and I had him scour that bank
11:47to look for anything that stood out
11:50that possibly could have been telling us
11:52why this body's in this water.
11:54Because all we had was a body in the water
11:57laying near a bunch of branches
11:59and there's nothing near it.
12:01There's absolutely zero.
12:04As the crime scene offered no more clues,
12:08police had to rule out other options.
12:12Could the current of the river
12:13have brought Elizabeth's body here
12:15from further upstream?
12:16Trying to determine exactly
12:30the path of a body in this region
12:32is difficult.
12:34In this region, flow is steady
12:36and that can transport a body
12:38quite a long distance
12:40and certainly put it
12:41into various inlets and creeks
12:43and leave it stranded there
12:44for some time.
12:47If it has any current
12:48in the water at all,
12:50it's going to move that body
12:51from where it was originally dumped at.
12:53So, it makes finding
12:55the original drop site
12:57a little more difficult.
12:59You've also got mangroves,
13:00you've got islands,
13:02you've got levees.
13:03These are all obstructions,
13:05these are all issues
13:06that would sort of
13:07cause a body to get stuck.
13:09It's a bit like a sort of
13:10a random walk effect.
13:12Certainly tracking a body
13:13in this area is difficult
13:14because it is so complex.
13:17The area where the body
13:18was located,
13:19the tides and the water level
13:21can also affect
13:22how things stay,
13:23how they float,
13:24how they move.
13:25However, at that time,
13:26the water was very calm
13:28so you could tell
13:28that she had not moved.
13:32Investigators look
13:33to Elizabeth's post-mortem
13:34for answers.
13:37In Elizabeth's case,
13:39when the body was examined,
13:40there were injuries
13:41to Elizabeth's body
13:42around the head
13:44and around the chest.
13:45There was blunt force trauma
13:47and what that means
13:48is that Elizabeth was hit
13:50with some type
13:50of a blunt object
13:52causing damage
13:53and bruises.
13:55This was a violent attack.
13:59There were bruises
14:00along the neck
14:01in particular.
14:03This leads us to think
14:05that maybe there was
14:06some type of strangulation
14:07where the hands
14:09are placed
14:10around the person's neck
14:12and the neck
14:13is squeezed.
14:15Then that person
14:16will become unconscious
14:18and eventually die.
14:21The pathologist
14:22ruled the cause of death
14:23would have been
14:23asphyxiation
14:24by strangulation.
14:28The pathologist
14:29made another
14:30intriguing discovery.
14:33Levitity is basically
14:34the pooling of the blood.
14:38When we lay
14:39in a certain fashion,
14:41blood pools
14:41to the lowest point
14:42of gravity.
14:44In Elizabeth's case,
14:45there was a levitity pattern
14:47that showed
14:48she had not been killed
14:50and then dumped immediately.
14:52Because the levitity
14:53had set
14:54or been fixed,
14:55once she's moved,
14:56that levitity doesn't change.
14:59She was kept someplace
15:01on her back
15:01in order to allow
15:03that levitity
15:03to be set.
15:04In this case,
15:07likely the trunk
15:07of a car
15:08for several hours
15:09before she was actually
15:10dumped
15:10where she was found.
15:12The pathologist's
15:13determination was
15:15that she was murdered
15:16before she was placed
15:17in the water.
15:20Investigators
15:20were now convinced
15:21Elizabeth
15:22had been murdered
15:23and her body dumped
15:24off the interstate
15:25highway bridge.
15:32We were able
15:33to go forward
15:35with the fact
15:35that it was definitely
15:36ruled a homicide
15:37and there was definitely
15:38foul play.
15:40This type of strangulation
15:42is a type of death
15:44that is very up close
15:45and personal.
15:47That gives us
15:48an indication
15:48for what direction
15:49to take the investigation.
15:51It's very likely
15:52that she knew her killer
15:53and perhaps knew them well.
15:57Detectives put Elizabeth's life
15:59under the microscope,
16:01speaking to those
16:01who knew her,
16:03including best friend Shannon.
16:05I received a phone call
16:10and he left a message
16:11and so I immediately
16:12called him back
16:13and I just said,
16:15hi, my name is Shannon.
16:16You just called me
16:17about Liz,
16:18is she okay?
16:19And his response was,
16:20no ma'am,
16:21she's dead.
16:24My first reaction,
16:26of course,
16:26was tears started
16:27streaming down my face.
16:28I want to scream
16:29bloody murder
16:29and I was ready
16:30to go pull one
16:31of my dad's
16:31hunting rifles
16:32out of his safe
16:33and go hunt this.
16:35bleepity bleep down.
16:37To find out
16:38who the killer was,
16:40investigators needed
16:41to dig
16:41into Elizabeth's past.
16:45She was actually
16:46probably my first,
16:48what I would guess
16:49you could call
16:49best friend
16:50in my adult life.
16:52She was so petite,
16:53she was just,
16:53she looked like
16:54a little living
16:54walking doll.
16:56But she was just
16:57always upbeat
16:58and chipper.
16:59She never really
17:00had a bad thing
17:00to say about anybody.
17:01life hadn't been
17:04easy for Elizabeth.
17:06Her mother died
17:07when she was 18.
17:09Her mother was deceased.
17:11Her father was not
17:11in the picture.
17:12And we learned
17:13that she had
17:14a tough upbringing,
17:15but she was,
17:16she was a fighter.
17:16She,
17:17she fought.
17:18I think that's why
17:19she was so resilient.
17:20She was so resilient
17:21because of her
17:22tougher upbringing
17:23that she did have.
17:24She had to be.
17:25In 2005,
17:29she met
17:30Jonathan Alley.
17:31They had met
17:32at a restaurant
17:32and actually
17:33when they first met
17:34he was really sweet
17:35and really gentle
17:35and really kind to her
17:36and that's where
17:38she fell in love
17:38with him.
17:42The couple got married
17:43and moved to New Orleans
17:44to set up a bar.
17:48It seemed like
17:48it was a fairly
17:49decent relationship.
17:50However,
17:51she finds out
17:51she's pregnant
17:52and just puts a hold
17:53on all their plans
17:54in New Orleans
17:55and they feel
17:55like they need
17:55some financial support
17:57and maybe emotional
17:58support as well
17:59at least from
17:59Jonathan's perspective
18:00so they decide
18:01to move back
18:01to Humboldt, Texas.
18:04He really wasn't
18:05able to hold
18:05a steady job
18:06very often.
18:07The best job he had,
18:08he was welding
18:08somewhere and he
18:09wound up breaking
18:10his arm and
18:10couldn't work
18:11so he lost the job
18:12and then they
18:13wound up losing
18:14their,
18:15where they were living.
18:16They were living
18:16in a trailer home
18:17at the time
18:17and they moved in
18:18with his grandmother.
18:23It creates
18:24a huge strain
18:24in the relationship
18:26between Liz
18:26and Jonathan
18:28for a number
18:29of different reasons.
18:30You know,
18:30she gives birth
18:31to her first child
18:31in 2010
18:32and I think
18:33that Liz really
18:34feels incredibly
18:35alone
18:37and lonely
18:38in the sense
18:38that Jonathan's
18:40grandmother
18:40is doting,
18:42is an understatement
18:43I think in terms
18:44of her relationship
18:44with him.
18:45No woman is good
18:46enough,
18:47you know,
18:47for her precious
18:48Jonathan
18:48and I think Liz
18:50really feels
18:51Jonathan's grandmother
18:51doesn't like her
18:52and that she's
18:53not welcome
18:54there.
18:55I think it mainly
18:56was kind of,
18:57you know,
18:57she's taking
18:58my son away
18:58kind of thing.
18:59She did not
18:59like Liz
19:00for anything.
19:03Despite the
19:04tensions,
19:05in 2015
19:06the couple
19:07had a second
19:07daughter.
19:09According to
19:10the people
19:10we spoke to
19:11over there,
19:12they said
19:12that she always
19:13told them
19:14that the
19:15grandmother
19:15said she
19:16was a bad
19:16mother.
19:17She just felt
19:18like she had
19:19no life there.
19:20She was very
19:21isolated from
19:21the rest of
19:22the family.
19:23She did a lot
19:23of gaming
19:24and that's
19:26what I think
19:26was her way
19:27out.
19:28She was always
19:29talking about
19:30her games
19:31and the people
19:31that she was
19:32meeting on there
19:32and she seemed
19:34to make friends
19:35right and left.
19:36It didn't really
19:36matter who they
19:37were,
19:37where they were
19:38from or anything
19:39like that.
19:39She could just
19:40make friends.
19:43She increasingly
19:44is turning into
19:44gaming I think
19:45as a way to
19:46escape the
19:47environment that
19:48she's living in
19:49and I think
19:49increasingly she
19:50finds that
19:51that's her
19:52only outlet
19:53at home.
19:53A way for her
19:54to feel
19:55pleasure and
19:57to have fun
19:57and not to
19:58feel all of
19:59this dislike
20:01and stress.
20:04She's beginning
20:05to have
20:05conversations,
20:07she's revealing
20:07more about
20:08herself and
20:09her situation,
20:10she's becoming
20:10flirtatious with
20:11a couple of
20:12guys online.
20:13when I found
20:17out that she
20:17was actually
20:18starting to
20:18meet people
20:18outside that
20:19she had met
20:20online,
20:21I actually
20:21got kind of
20:22worried about
20:23her because
20:23you never know
20:24what you're
20:24going to actually
20:24come across.
20:26They can be
20:26one thing
20:26online and
20:27completely
20:27different in
20:28person and I
20:29didn't feel
20:30comfortable with
20:30that and so I
20:31made a point to
20:31make sure it's
20:32like if you have
20:33any problems,
20:33if you don't
20:34feel safe,
20:34if you don't
20:34feel comfortable,
20:35call me.
20:36I'll be there
20:36in a heartbeat.
20:37This can be
20:39very, very risky
20:40and at the same
20:40time, you know,
20:42I wonder how
20:42much the
20:43situation that
20:45Liz was in,
20:46in terms of
20:46feeling so
20:47isolated and
20:48so unhappy and
20:49so lonely that
20:50for her, it
20:52was worth it.
20:54Could
20:55Elizabeth's killer
20:55be a gamer
20:56she'd met
20:57online?
20:58Or was it
20:59someone closer
21:00to home?
21:07In Whiskey Bay,
21:18Louisiana,
21:20investigators now
21:21know murdered
21:22mother of two,
21:23Elizabeth Farrell,
21:24was strangled
21:25before being
21:26dumped in
21:27swampland.
21:29They reach out
21:30to her husband
21:31and father of
21:31her children,
21:32Jonathan Allay.
21:35I asked him
21:36if he knew
21:36Elizabeth Farrell.
21:38He said,
21:38yes, I do.
21:39I said,
21:39well, unfortunately,
21:41I hate to do
21:42so by telephone,
21:43but we had
21:44located her
21:45here in
21:45Louisiana.
21:47And I told
21:47him, I said,
21:48and it's not
21:49good.
21:50I said,
21:50she's deceased.
21:51And his reaction
21:52to me on the
21:53phone was like,
21:55kind of blew
21:55me away.
21:56He goes like,
21:57really?
21:58Louisiana?
21:59Why is she
22:00over there?
22:01And I thought
22:02that was strange.
22:04It's extremely
22:05odd.
22:06And not
22:07something that
22:08I think most
22:08investigators see
22:10as the first
22:11reaction to hearing
22:12that your loved
22:13one has been
22:13found deceased,
22:16out of state,
22:17unclothed,
22:18in a body
22:20of water.
22:21When investigators
22:22find somebody
22:24who's so out
22:24of the norm,
22:25it's always
22:26a red flag.
22:27I said,
22:28how did she get
22:29here?
22:29So I don't know
22:29if she left
22:30here a week ago
22:30and she just
22:31came up missing.
22:31He did not
22:32give us any
22:33indication as
22:34to why
22:35Elizabeth would
22:36be in Louisiana,
22:37how Elizabeth
22:38would have
22:38been in Louisiana,
22:39or how long
22:40Elizabeth would
22:41have been in
22:42Louisiana.
22:43I'm like,
22:43this don't sound
22:44right.
22:44So there was
22:44actually a police
22:45officer from
22:46Texas that
22:47went to that
22:48house at the
22:49time I called
22:50him.
22:50He stepped
22:51outside and I
22:52said,
22:53between me and
22:54you,
22:54the reaction I'm
22:55hearing over the
22:56telephone,
22:56before I could
22:57finish my comment,
22:58he said,
22:59I'm seeing the
22:59same thing
23:00you're hearing.
23:01Zero remorse.
23:06Some of the
23:07things that he
23:07did tell us
23:08was concerning
23:09the fact that
23:10his wife had
23:11not been seen
23:12by him by his
23:13own admission
23:13in a week,
23:14and she has
23:15two young
23:15children.
23:16If, as a
23:17parent, you go
23:19missing with
23:19two young
23:19children, the
23:20other parent is
23:22most times
23:23concerned about
23:23where that
23:24parent may or
23:25may not be.
23:26We expect to
23:26have some sort
23:27of missing
23:28person's report
23:28by a family
23:29member.
23:30However, that
23:31was not done.
23:34Detectives
23:35uncovered something
23:36else concerning
23:36about the
23:37couple's
23:38marriage.
23:41They learned
23:42through friends
23:43and coworkers
23:44that she was
23:45in a very
23:45volatile
23:46relationship.
23:47She'd come
23:47to work with
23:48scratches, bruises
23:50on her from
23:51time to time,
23:52and she would
23:53tell them that
23:53the person she
23:54was living with
23:56was very violent
23:57toward her.
23:58He really
23:59started getting
23:59physical.
24:00There was one
24:01time she came
24:01in, she had
24:02a black eye,
24:03both lips were
24:03busted, and she
24:04almost lost her
24:05two front teeth.
24:06He hit her with
24:07a casted hand, and
24:09that's when he
24:09really started
24:10getting really bad.
24:11We all tried to
24:12get her to call
24:13the police on
24:13him, because at
24:14least it would
24:15get him away
24:15from her, or
24:16maybe her and
24:17the girls to a
24:18safer point, but
24:19she just wouldn't
24:19do it, because
24:20she did still
24:21care about him.
24:22And she would
24:23apologize profusely
24:24afterwards, and
24:25you know, the
24:25same old
24:26rigmarole.
24:28When we had
24:29this kind of
24:29vicious cycle of
24:30violence followed
24:32by remorse, we
24:33oftentimes can see
24:34this progression
24:34of violence over
24:35time, being less
24:37and less sorry,
24:38more and more
24:39blaming on the
24:39victim that they
24:40somehow caused
24:41this to happen.
24:42One of the things
24:43that we discovered
24:44in the recent years
24:45is just what a
24:46marker and a
24:48predictor that is
24:48for danger.
24:50We did want to
24:50look at Jonathan
24:51Ali a little bit
24:52harder in making
24:55sure that we
24:55cooperate with
24:56everything that
24:56he said.
25:01Jonathan was
25:01brought in for
25:02questioning.
25:04Two of my
25:05detectives went
25:06over there, and
25:07they spoke to
25:07him.
25:08Hi, Jonathan.
25:10You doing all
25:10right, man?
25:11Not in the
25:12police.
25:13Right now, we're
25:13investigating a very
25:14serious offense,
25:15okay?
25:17When they got to
25:18meet Mr. Ali,
25:18for the first
25:19time in person,
25:20it wasn't the
25:21exact same story
25:21he was telling me
25:22on the phone, so
25:23there was a lot
25:24of inconsistencies.
25:25When was the
25:26last time you
25:26saw her Thursday?
25:30Initially, he
25:31told us that he
25:31hadn't seen her
25:32in a week, and
25:32then it turned
25:33to, well, he
25:34saw her on
25:34Thursday, and
25:36it went from
25:37there.
25:38Tell me what
25:39happened to
25:39the other
25:39today.
25:40I came home
25:41in her bedroom.
25:42No one was
25:42closed, so I
25:45figured the baby
25:46was sleeping.
25:46He said that,
25:48you know, he
25:49heard the baby
25:50crying, the
25:51young man
25:51crying.
25:52He went
25:52there and
25:53learned that
25:54Elizabeth wasn't
25:55there anymore.
25:57The Xbox was
25:58gone, closed, a
26:01couple of
26:02nicknames.
26:03And he
26:04hadn't seen
26:04her since.
26:05There was a
26:06lot of tension
26:08in the house.
26:09It just
26:09didn't click
26:10anymore.
26:10This was
26:12the first
26:12time Jonathan
26:13revealed his
26:14marriage was
26:15on the rocks.
26:16During that
26:17phone call with
26:18him, he
26:18didn't mention
26:18anything about
26:19the relationship,
26:20anything like that.
26:21The two detectives
26:22that did speak to
26:22him, he told
26:23them that they
26:24hadn't been
26:24intimate in a
26:25few years, and
26:27they had some
26:27problems in the
26:28marital situation.
26:30Have you ever
26:31heard her?
26:32Yeah.
26:32How many times?
26:33One time.
26:36How'd you get
26:36the bruises on
26:37your knuckles
26:38and stuff?
26:39They're not
26:39bruises.
26:40It's dirt.
26:41It's dirt?
26:42From what?
26:43I'm not sure.
26:46Have you ever
26:47been in Louisiana
26:47before?
26:48Yeah.
26:49When's the last
26:50time you've been
26:50in Louisiana?
26:53A few years
26:54ago.
26:55You could
26:56tell that he
26:56was a little
26:56uneasy in
26:57talking to the
26:58detectives about
26:59the situation.
27:01I didn't
27:02do this.
27:03You won't
27:03forgive us for
27:04taking the
27:05life away from me.
27:07I didn't
27:08do this.
27:10Well, who did
27:11it?
27:11I don't
27:11know.
27:13With no hard
27:14evidence against
27:15him, Elizabeth's
27:16husband was
27:17free to go.
27:20But then there
27:21was a development
27:22that would turn
27:23the investigation
27:24on its head.
27:25she was actually
27:28meeting people
27:29online and trying
27:30to find somebody
27:30to help her
27:31escape, get
27:32her to another
27:32state even.
27:34And she
27:35actually did go
27:36on a couple
27:36of dates with
27:37some people she
27:37met online.
27:38She was gaming
27:40with one online
27:41from Oklahoma.
27:42And this guy
27:43actually came
27:45in from Oklahoma
27:45to Texas
27:46and met her
27:48and they spent
27:49a night at a
27:50hotel.
27:51So, here we
27:53go.
27:54You know, was
27:54it domestic
27:55or was it
27:57something else?
27:58Was it this guy
27:59came down who's
28:00a serial killer
28:00from God knows
28:01where that
28:03preyed upon this
28:04young lady and
28:05killed her?
28:05So, back
28:08to square one
28:09again, you know,
28:10we know we
28:11got a murder.
28:12Now we're
28:13going to figure
28:13out who is
28:14the murderer.
28:15It is risky
28:17to meet somebody
28:18that we don't
28:19know, that we've
28:19never met in
28:20person, online.
28:22Less so in a
28:23public place, but
28:23to meet somebody
28:24in a hotel or a
28:25place where you're
28:25going to be
28:26intimate for the
28:27first time I
28:27think can be
28:28seen as risky.
28:29This guy could
28:30be a stalker, he
28:31could be a
28:31predator.
28:32There have
28:32been plenty of
28:33cases of people
28:34who have been
28:34catfished and
28:35they think they're
28:35getting one
28:36person and
28:37then somebody
28:38turns up who's
28:39nothing like they
28:39said they were
28:40going to or
28:40even worse.
28:42Though she is
28:43willing to take
28:44a risk.
28:46We were able
28:47to determine
28:48who that person
28:49was, we were
28:50able to make
28:50contact with
28:51that person
28:52via telephone.
28:55When he
28:56heard that we
28:56had found
28:57Elizabeth here
28:57in Louisiana
28:58deceased, his
28:59reaction to us
29:00was a hundred
29:02times more
29:03emotional than
29:05her actual
29:06husband and
29:08we knew
29:08immediately
29:09speaking to
29:10him, he
29:11could prove
29:11where he
29:12was at, he
29:12had an
29:12alibi, we
29:14knew for a
29:14fact, he
29:15had never
29:16came to
29:16anywhere near
29:18the state of
29:18Louisiana.
29:19And we were
29:20able to
29:20eliminate him
29:21as a suspect
29:22in this
29:22homicide.
29:25Investigators
29:25once again
29:26zeroed in on
29:27Jonathan
29:28Allay.
29:29They needed
29:30to place him
29:31on the
29:31interstate
29:31highway bridge
29:32over Whiskey
29:33Bay and work
29:34out his motive
29:35for coming
29:36here.
29:43The body
29:44of water
29:44along with
29:45the bridge
29:45is a pretty
29:46isolated area
29:47with only two
29:48exits on an
29:4918-mile road
29:49leading to that
29:51location.
29:52Given the
29:52remote location
29:53of Whiskey
29:53Bay, it's not
29:55uncommon for
29:55investigators to
29:56see body dumps.
29:58We've got calls
29:59in that area
30:00before.
30:00Years ago, there
30:01was a serial
30:02killer working
30:02that area, dumping
30:04bodies off in
30:04that area.
30:07What could draw a
30:08killer to these
30:09waters, 230 miles
30:11from Texas?
30:13During the time
30:14of this homicide,
30:16there was a TV
30:17show that we
30:18were featured on
30:19that aired early
30:212016 that talked
30:23about our
30:24geography and,
30:26you know, how
30:28people discard
30:29bodies and things
30:30in our area based
30:31on the geography
30:33of our area.
30:34It featured
30:35bodies being
30:36dumped at
30:37Whiskey Bay here
30:39in Louisiana,
30:40in our parish,
30:41possibly he may
30:42have watched
30:42that show.
30:43Further findings
30:45from the autopsy
30:45confirmed the
30:46police's theory that
30:48Elizabeth was dropped
30:49over the side of
30:50the bridge.
30:52Elizabeth had
30:53puncture wounds
30:54that were from
30:54the branches of
30:55trees, indicating
30:57she was pushed
30:58off or thrown
30:58off the bridge.
31:00Her body hit those
31:01and they would
31:01cause post-mortem
31:02injuries, which
31:04we can determine
31:05were not the
31:06actual cause of
31:06death.
31:08We know that
31:08because through
31:09the autopsy,
31:10when we find
31:11bruises or
31:12damage to a
31:13body, we can
31:14actually make a
31:15small incision in
31:17those bruises to
31:18determine if there
31:19is something we
31:19call vital force.
31:22If there is vital
31:23force, then that
31:24person was alive when
31:25those injuries
31:26occurred.
31:27That's bleeding
31:27into the tissue.
31:29When we incise
31:30those wounds and
31:31we find out that
31:32there is no vital
31:33force, then we
31:34know that those
31:34are post-mortem
31:35injuries.
31:39But investigators
31:40still had to prove
31:41Jonathan had come
31:43to Whiskey Bay.
31:45We found out
31:46Elizabeth did not
31:47drive.
31:48She had no
31:48driver's license.
31:49She had no
31:50vehicle.
31:51We learned from
31:52work, co-workers,
31:53that he brought
31:54her to work and
31:54picked her up from
31:55work.
31:56While my two
31:56detectives are
31:57over there,
31:58Jonathan finally
31:58pulls up in a
31:59car.
32:00On the back
32:00window, there was
32:02a small American
32:03flag in about the
32:03middle part of the
32:04window.
32:05Detective made
32:05note of it.
32:07We started
32:07looking for
32:08surveillance cameras.
32:09It took hours of
32:12surveilling through
32:13video, not only by
32:14me, but by multiple
32:16detectives.
32:17During this time,
32:18it's two-ish,
32:20three-ish in the
32:20morning.
32:21I'm in my office and
32:23my detective runs in
32:25there and, quote,
32:26I got that son of a
32:27bitch.
32:28And I'm like,
32:29got what?
32:30He said, I got the
32:32car from Humboldt,
32:33Texas.
32:34Here, right there
32:36was near Whiskey
32:36Bay.
32:38He was able to
32:40locate that in
32:40these hours' worth of
32:42video footage and
32:43camera footage that we
32:44saw that even had the
32:46American flag sticker on
32:48the back that we were
32:49able to cooperate.
32:51Jonathan Ali's car had
32:52as well.
32:54I said, you got to be
32:55kidding me.
32:55I think it was like
32:567.58 p.m. the night
32:58before we found the
32:59body.
32:59that vehicle is
33:01eastbound and at
33:039-something is back
33:04westbound.
33:06And, like, okay,
33:08who's driving that
33:10car?
33:11That vehicle was
33:13registered to his
33:14grandmother.
33:14So I found a phone
33:16number for her.
33:18Come to find out, she
33:19says she was at a
33:20campground in another
33:21part of Texas.
33:23I find this campground
33:24that she was in.
33:25I actually speak to the
33:26manager.
33:27Manager says,
33:28confirm.
33:29In fact, she was here
33:30during the time we think
33:33this body was done.
33:34The only other person
33:37who had access to the
33:38car was Jonathan's
33:40uncle.
33:41So now we're down to
33:43two.
33:44We're down to Jonathan
33:44Ali or the other
33:45gentleman living in the
33:46residence.
33:47The uncle.
33:48We could verify from
33:49where he was at.
33:50We knew he had an
33:52alibi, a solid alibi.
33:53He even told us that
33:55when he had came home,
33:57Jonathan wasn't there.
33:59The car wasn't there.
34:00The grandmother wasn't
34:01there because she was at
34:03this campground in
34:04Grospeck, Texas.
34:05So he had went to bed.
34:11I think he had said
34:13around 1245 or something
34:14like that that morning,
34:15he got up to go get
34:16something to drink.
34:17And that's when he
34:18noticed Jonathan had
34:19just came in.
34:21So where was Jonathan
34:23at the whole time?
34:27The answer would come
34:28from a surprising source.
34:30He had a five-year-old
34:32daughter who had to be
34:34interviewed about what
34:35may or may not have
34:36happened that day, what
34:37she saw, what she didn't
34:38see.
34:39Because children are very
34:40observant.
34:41And even though they don't
34:41know that they are seeing
34:43something that may be
34:45pertinent to an
34:46investigation, they only
34:47know what they see.
34:49It's very, very important
34:50that if you're going to
34:51interview a child, witness,
34:53that they're done with
34:55somebody who's been
34:55trained very specifically
34:56in how to interview
34:58children.
34:58And that involves things
34:59like, you know, maybe
35:00playing games with this
35:01child, putting this child
35:02at ease, having toys in
35:04the room, asking open-ended
35:06questions.
35:07Because the last thing you
35:09want to do is lead a child.
35:11Children are naturally
35:12compliant with adults.
35:13And so it is important to
35:15have a trained forensic
35:16interviewer.
35:17And they did.
35:20I don't think any adult
35:21could have been a better
35:22witness than this child was.
35:23She told a whole story
35:25that her dad said he was
35:26going on an adventure.
35:29It's going to be a long
35:30ride.
35:30They leave in the daytime,
35:32and they come back late
35:32at night.
35:33And her dad said, this
35:36could take a while.
35:37She said, I'm sitting in
35:39the back with my mother
35:39and little sister, and my
35:41dad's driving her, and
35:42he's where mom.
35:43Mom didn't come.
35:47This is the lane he
35:48stopped in, and the little
35:49girl told a forensic
35:50interviewer, she said he
35:52parked in the middle of
35:53the road, which she
35:53thinks is the middle of
35:54the lane.
35:55It's kind of similar to
35:55the lane, but it's very,
35:56this is the shoulder, very
35:58narrow.
36:00The description matched
36:01the exact point on the
36:02highway where her mother's
36:04body was dumped.
36:06She said in the interview
36:07that she'd remember her dad
36:09getting out of the car.
36:10He was being very careful
36:11not to get run over.
36:12And he removed something
36:14from the back, but I
36:14couldn't tell where it was,
36:16and proceeded back to
36:17Humboldt, Texas, and told
36:19the little girl he couldn't
36:19find the magic road they
36:20were looking for.
36:22She could be a very
36:22powerful witness, and she
36:24certainly in this case
36:26turned it on its head.
36:27Detectives are investigating
36:50the murder of Elizabeth
36:51Farrell from Texas, found
36:53strangled in a Louisiana
36:55swamp.
36:58Their prime suspect is
37:00Elizabeth's violent
37:01husband, Jonathan.
37:03Despite claiming he hadn't
37:04been to Louisiana for years,
37:07he was picked up on highway
37:08cameras near the Whiskey Bay
37:10dump site, and his daughter
37:12confirmed they'd gone there.
37:14In listening to the child's
37:17forensic interview and then
37:18Jonathan's interview, the
37:20inconsistencies were vast.
37:21Jonathan advised that he was at
37:24the home for the majority of
37:25the day, and the child
37:27definitely stated something
37:28different, the fact that they
37:29had all left the home on a
37:31big adventure.
37:33To watch that interview was
37:34heartbreaking.
37:35This little girl was so
37:36articulate, and she even told
37:38us, sometimes my daddy gets
37:39mad at my mommy.
37:41And she said, my daddy would
37:42fuss saying that you spend more
37:44time online with your friends
37:45than you do with me.
37:46You're always gaming.
37:48Based on the investigation and
37:49everything that we were able to
37:51learn, we were able to get
37:53enough probable cause and reach
37:55that level to make sure that
37:56we were able to obtain an
37:57arrest warrant.
37:59It was enough to get a judge to
38:01sign a warrant for second-degree
38:03murder of Elizabeth Farrell.
38:09They arrested him over in
38:10Normal, Texas, as what they call
38:11a fugitive from St. Louisiana.
38:15When I finally heard that they had
38:17arrested him, I was ecstatic.
38:19What he did to Elizabeth, it made
38:21me incredibly angry.
38:24All I wanted to do was walk up to
38:25that SOB and flap him across the
38:29face, but I let justice do its
38:32thing.
38:33Then, the investigation took
38:35another unexpected turn.
38:37So, while in jail in Texas, waiting
38:42to come here, he got a little
38:46diarrhea in the mouth.
38:47He befriended another gentleman
38:50that was in his jail.
38:52And the gentleman asked him, you
38:54know, what you in here for?
38:56And he said, murder.
38:58And he goes into detail about how
39:02he murdered Elizabeth.
39:02After interviewing his cellmate,
39:06detectives could finally piece
39:08together the final hours of
39:09Elizabeth's life.
39:13He is clearly somebody who is
39:15treating her as a possession, and
39:17somebody he can abuse, he can
39:19control.
39:20So, it doesn't surprise me that
39:22the incident that leads to her
39:24death is when he goes through her
39:26phone, which, of course, is an
39:28invasion of privacy, and finds these
39:30messages that are enraging to him,
39:32that he thinks are a violation of
39:34his ownership of her.
39:36We learned through the
39:37investigation that on her phone,
39:39he possibly located some
39:40information that shows she was
39:41possibly being intimate with
39:43somebody else.
39:45Elizabeth had been exchanging
39:47messages with her online
39:49romance.
39:51He feels that because she is his
39:53possession, she can't leave him
39:55unless he says it's okay.
39:57So, I think he's got, in so many
39:58respects, the classic personality
40:01and thought processes of a
40:03domestic violence perpetrator.
40:06He had threatened her a hundred
40:07times.
40:08If she ever tried to leave and take
40:09the girls, he would kill her.
40:10And I think she was getting ready
40:12to start trying to leave, and
40:13that's when the worst that he could
40:17do happened.
40:19When she comes out of the
40:20bathroom, he comes in behind her
40:22and he grabs her, he chokes her.
40:24Jonathan did tell the jailhouse
40:26cellmate that he put her in a
40:28chokehold until she stopped
40:30breathing, or what he thought.
40:34He said she was dead.
40:36He laid her down, he let her go.
40:39He said, and then she like, she
40:40gasped for air.
40:42He said, I panicked.
40:43And that's when I started stomping
40:44on her neck, kicking her throat.
40:46What we think, somebody's been
40:49injured, our first thought is, we
40:51need to get help for them.
40:53And so there is something about
40:54that stomping, it's just that
40:56annihilation that is just
40:59particularly chilling.
41:01Once hearing the statements that
41:03Jonathan Ali made to the jailhouse
41:06cellmate, it all cooperated with
41:09the autopsy had found about the
41:11blunt force trauma, everything to her
41:12chest and to her upper body.
41:14When we looked at this case, we
41:17found some anomalies, and those
41:18anomalies were the injuries and the
41:21bruising around the head and neck.
41:22And so he actually admitted that he
41:24stomped on her neck.
41:26We find this again through the
41:27autopsy because the very delicate
41:30bones and the cartilage in that
41:31area may be crushed.
41:34And then the sick part about it all,
41:37he told this gentleman that once he
41:40did kill her, he had sex with her
41:43body and that he ejaculated on her
41:46face.
41:47And then once we got a hold of some
41:49phones he had, we found some stuff in
41:50the phone where he had pictures of
41:54and was Googling sex with dead bodies.
41:59So he was a sick person.
42:02He had some sick thoughts.
42:03This last act of having sex with her is a
42:09way to degrade her further.
42:11It is his last act of kind of domination
42:13control over her.
42:16I can't think of anything that would be
42:17more dehumanizing and more humiliating
42:19than, and to turn somebody into such an
42:22object.
42:23They're in a situation obviously now where
42:24they have absolutely no control over
42:26anything.
42:27Um, it's just, it's horrifying.
42:29Detectives uncovered more clues about why
42:34Jonathan Alley chose Whiskey Bay to dump
42:37his wife's body.
42:39He also made a comment to the inmate at the
42:44jail in Texas that he thought if he threw
42:47it in the swamps here in Louisiana, the
42:48alligator's where he's at.
42:53When you have bodies of water that are high in
42:56an alligator population, many offenders think
42:58that this is a great place to get rid of
43:00their evidence as the alligators will
43:02scavenge on the remains.
43:05However, in most cases, alligators are
43:07predators.
43:08They are not scavengers, meaning that unless
43:11they have live prey, they're usually not
43:13interested in what's in the water.
43:16I'm 66 years old, born and raised here, and I
43:20have yet to find one person that's ever been
43:23eaten by an alligator in the state of Louisiana.
43:26I mean, within 40 feet, I got alligators in my
43:30house, so, and they've never attacked me.
43:34Again, go back to his sick mind, you know, an
43:37alligator's going to be a perfect scenario.
43:38He's going to eat the body, and we're never going to
43:40discover her, and they'll never know where she
43:42went.
43:43And he figured it'd be a good spot to go because
43:45nobody will catch him.
43:46Well, he found out every real parish
43:49sheriff's office knows a little something about
43:51that.
43:53Jonathan Allais was finally extradited to the
43:57state of Louisiana, where investigators attempted
44:00to interview him.
44:02It's been a long road, brother.
44:05It's been a long road.
44:07Jonathan, this is exactly what I explained to you in
44:09the car.
44:10You have the right to remain silent.
44:11Anything you say you can, we'll just get you in the
44:13court of law.
44:13You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him
44:15present with you while you're being questioned.
44:16You understand that?
44:17Yes, sir.
44:17And he immediately lawyered up on us.
44:21Then he said, not talking.
44:24And that was the last conversation we had with him
44:26was that night.
44:27Allais returned to the jurisdiction of his home state, Texas,
44:39where he pleaded guilty to the second degree murder of his
44:42wife, Elizabeth.
44:44He struck a plea deal and was jailed for 35 years.
44:48The one time he told the truth, he had to save his ass, to say,
44:53hey, you know, I don't want to die in Louisiana prison.
44:57I can go over there in Texas and get a better deal, which turns
44:59out to be 35 years there versus life here.
45:03He thought of just himself and nobody else.
45:06For me personally, it can be kind of frustrating when pleas
45:08are given.
45:09However, in this case, it was the best case scenario,
45:12him taking a plea and saving his children from having to go
45:17through a trial.
45:18As far as I'm concerned, it's an injustice.
45:23He is not serving what he should serve for what he did.
45:27He is evil incarnate, as far as I'm concerned.
45:32You know, you look around, water, woods, what kind of death
45:38of death, a water grave.
45:40You know, you don't do animals that.
45:43But he treated her like garbage, threw out in the swamp.
45:46That tells you right there what kind of person he is.
45:49And this is the burial he gave her.
45:52Mr. Ali thought that he could just throw her off his bridge and
45:55just wash his sins away.
45:56He washed his ass straight to prison.
45:58And that's where his final destination should be.
46:03I do miss her every single day.
46:06I wish I could talk to her every day.
46:08And then I wish she was still here.
46:11And Jonathan was gone.
46:14It's really that simple.
46:15Because you don't find people like that very often.
46:21A friend like that is completely priceless.
46:24Let's see.
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