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00:00No queremos aceptar que realmente hay mal que cambie entre nosotros
00:10Pero es lo que hace
00:14Y esto fue pura mal
00:18En la familia de Hahn
00:23Me sentí mejor cuando he pasado con Henry, Jenny y Emily
00:28Henry was born to be the healer
00:31Henry was the guy
00:34In the alternative medicine world
00:36Patients would come in from all different parts of the country to see him
00:39When you go to the clinic, it just kind of oozed of peacefulness
00:44He had the magic
00:47Emily had her own little table and her crayons
00:52Her mom, Jenny, was there working in the clinic
00:56It's kind of good therapy to be with the three of them
01:00They did make a good team
01:01We were business partners with Henry
01:04And we were becoming friends
01:06We really had a beautiful road ahead of us
01:08He had a 10 a.m. meeting with his normal investment group
01:16It was probably, you know, a good 45 minutes
01:18After the meeting was supposed to start
01:21That we all kind of went, where is Henry?
01:23If he was going to be two minutes late, he called
01:25We were trying to call Henry
01:26And was going straight to voicemail
01:28So for him to miss this meeting would be a big deal
01:32He just wouldn't
01:33Something was not right
01:34We all had a pit in our stomach
01:36And we were trying to find a reason why that pit shouldn't be there
01:39Emily's birthday is coming up
01:42Maybe they took her to Disneyland
01:45Somebody's got to go over to their house and check on them
01:48Mark finally gets in touch with Don Goldberg
01:50Very unusual not to get any communication from either Jenny or Henry
01:56By midday, I decided to go to the home
01:59From the outside, it looked normal
02:01Went to the front door
02:03The door was closed, but it was not locked
02:05The two vehicles were in the garage
02:07Which you could see through the windows at the top of the garage door
02:11Then I called 911
02:13They came over and did a welfare check
02:16Around 5.30 that evening
02:18Two deputies arrived, made entry, called out
02:22No response
02:23And then started to look to see if there was any sign of foul play
02:27And that's what led them to open the garage door
02:30And then if you walk around the first car
02:33They can see what appears to be
02:36Three bodies wrapped in plastic and duct tape
02:39Within a minute or two
02:41Sunk in that the three bodies were
02:46Henry, Jenny and Emily
02:48My friends were gone
02:49There's a certain amount of shock that sets in
02:53We didn't hear back from Don
02:55We didn't eat that night
02:57We didn't sleep that night
02:59A five-year-old
03:01Three days short of her birthday
03:03It shook us all to our core
03:06It was rough
03:08Things started rapidly going into the next phase
03:12Who, how, and why
03:14It's a huge home
03:17There was biological evidence throughout
03:20Primarily in the upstairs in the bedrooms
03:22Where the murders took place
03:24The smell of bleach was there
03:26Indicating a clean-up attempt
03:28An entire family killed
03:30Presumably while they slept
03:32We knew there was a monster out there
03:35And we were going to find him and get him
03:36Having to know that
03:38And we were going to find out
03:38And there's these neue 만�
03:55Who knew there was a monster out there
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08:17¡As night fell on the Hahn estate
08:21on Wednesday, March 23,
08:25Don tried to process
08:27what he had just witnessed.
08:29He had called 911
08:31when he couldn't find the Háns anywhere
08:33and he was with sheriff's deputies
08:35when they discovered the bodies
08:37in the garage wrapped in plastic.
08:39None of it made any sense at all.
08:45Prosecutor Ben Ledinig says it was shortly before midnight
08:48when Santa Barbara Sheriff's Investigators obtained a search warrant
08:53and began to piece together what had happened inside the house.
08:58It appeared the family had been shot while they slept upstairs on the second floor,
09:04Henry in the couple's bedroom,
09:06and Jenny and Emily across the hall in Emily's room.
09:10Emily's room was tough to see.
09:13Mom probably read her stories to have Emily go to sleep that night
09:18and was sleeping with her.
09:20What did that tell you about the depravity of the kind of person
09:23who could do something like that?
09:25What were they after?
09:27We didn't know what he was after,
09:30but the depravity, I've never seen anything like it.
09:34Detectives picked up on the distinct smell of the murderer's attempts
09:38to cover his tracks.
09:40The smell of bleach was there.
09:41We had bleach bottles found.
09:43There were bleach stains on the carpet and throughout other items upstairs.
09:48And then you see bloody things in a washing machine.
09:52All the bedding, which had been stripped from the beds,
09:55was found piled in the laundry room and in the machine.
09:59The washing machine, the alarm had gone off because the load was unbalanced.
10:05And within there are a huge group of bloody sheets.
10:10Wedged in pillows in the laundry,
10:12crime scene investigators found a .22 caliber bullet and bullet fragments.
10:17Three matching shell casings were found within the wrapping of Jenny's body.
10:21And one was later found lodged between the baseboard and box spring of Emily's bed.
10:27We had one bullet that was a through and through.
10:30It was perfect for comparison for the murder weapon.
10:35As things are going, we start to find clues as to who potentially could be involved.
10:42Inside a paper bag next to Henry's bed,
10:46detectives found a document signed the last day Henry was seen alive.
10:51It provided a name.
10:54It's basically a four-page business contract between two partners.
10:58Partner one, Pierre Hopfsch, and partner two, Dr. Hahn.
11:02Don Goldberg knew a Pierre that Dr. Hahn was associated with.
11:06But Don thought he was harmless.
11:08I did not think that Pierre was capable of murder.
11:14I never really saw Pierre become angry or agitated.
11:18But the Palombos had a bad feeling.
11:21You didn't trust him?
11:22I did not.
11:38This community was left with a scar.
11:46The indelible scar left by the murders was the kind that not even Dr. Hahn could have healed.
11:54Wow.
11:54It was like a bomb exploded.
11:58Nobody could move for weeks.
12:01There was something very, very, very dark going on.
12:04Kimberly Ruff says Dr. Hahn treated her family for two decades.
12:09He could do anything.
12:10Ever since she was diagnosed with thyroid cancer shortly after giving birth to her son.
12:16Kimberly says Dr. Hahn's holistic approach allowed her to nurse her newborn while still treating her tumors.
12:23No matter how scared you might be or frightened, you just left feeling like it's going to be okay.
12:32Yeah, he was something.
12:32Instilling hope may have been one of the secrets to why his patients say Dr. Hahn could heal just about anything.
12:41Dr. Hahn, like, saved my life.
12:44Sherry Pierron was also a young mother with cancer when she went to Dr. Hahn.
12:49My daughter, Abby, was 15 months old.
12:52I felt a lump under my armpit.
12:55Even though she had the prescribed surgery and chemotherapy, she credits Dr. Hahn with her survival.
13:02There were so many people that passed away around me.
13:05He got me through it.
13:06What was the impact for you of his loss?
13:09It's the fear of if something comes back.
13:11And I'm trying every day to be positive and try to stay with his level of calm and how much confidence he had that, like, everything's taken care of.
13:20That conviction is what had drawn the Palumbos, who worked in the skin care industry, into their partnership with Dr. Hahn, hoping to treat various skin maladies.
13:31Henry was very interested in CBD.
13:34Having used CBD in his practice to treat pain and inflammation, Henry wanted to harness its full potential.
13:41It was groundbreaking science at the time, and he wanted 25-year-old Pierre Hopsch to help develop it.
13:48Pierre, from what we gathered, had a lot of experience in laboratories, in this case relating to CBD.
13:57Henry had taken a liking to Pierre after meeting him through another associate.
14:02But the Palumbos were uncomfortable with Pierre from the start.
14:06You know how when you meet somebody, you can't put your finger on it, but something's not right?
14:13That was Pierre.
14:14There was always this kind of little boiling simmer.
14:17When it came time to do the lab work, the Palumbos say the results were disturbing.
14:22What we came to find out was he was using toxic materials.
14:28When we called him on it, he said, you know, I'm just learning more about the molecules.
14:32It was just weird.
14:34As it turned out, Pierre wasn't a formally trained scientist.
14:38He didn't even have a college degree.
14:40The more you got onto that surface, the more you realize that he could talk a game and stay over the folks' heads a bit scientifically.
14:50Sounds like he was sort of a snake oil salesman type, right?
14:54He was.
14:54Sophisticated one, but yes.
14:56Yeah, very sophisticated one.
14:58There was more eyebrow-raising behavior.
15:00Pierre had also made odd charges on Henry's account.
15:05I was doing all the finances.
15:07And I'm like, this doesn't look right.
15:09Not a business expense.
15:10Not at all.
15:11After Marla flagged the charges to Henry, he discovered they were for escort services.
15:17Henry was, you won't believe this.
15:19Pierre's out.
15:20That was the final straw.
15:21That was Henry's final straw.
15:23But then a few weeks before the murders, Mark and Marla say Henry brought up Pierre out of the blue.
15:30Henry mentioned that he had learned a lot more about Pierre's upbringing.
15:36How much Pierre had to overcome from his childhood.
15:40Mark nor I really responded.
15:42We didn't want to have Pierre back in our fold at all.
15:47The Palombos were not alone in being wary of Pierre.
15:51Jenny's friend, Isaiah, says Jenny also had concerns and confided in him about them four days before the murders.
15:59It was weighing on her heavily.
16:01Do we trust him?
16:02Do we give him another chance?
16:04I was like, absolutely not.
16:05If he stole from you before, he's going to steal from you again.
16:07But Pierre had already ingratiated himself back into Henry's goodwill.
16:13Henry had a very trusting nature.
16:16Henry had shared with me that Pierre told him that he was ill, that it was late stage cancer, and that he was going to do what he could to help Pierre.
16:27Using Henry's good nature by lying to him, by manipulating him.
16:32Authorities learned that Pierre had been an overnight guest at the Hans' home before the murders and had formed a new partnership with the healer.
16:41There was that contract found in the master bedroom they had signed the last day of Henry's life.
16:48But prosecutor Ben Ledinig says it didn't seem legitimate.
16:51It was like a college sophomore drafted it.
16:55It was not notarized, not witnessed.
16:58Detectives had found something else of interest.
17:01A brilliant detective found packaging to the plastic wrapping that all three of the Hahn family were wrapped in, in a trash can in the kitchen area, next to packaging of 3M duct tape, similar to the duct tape that was used to wrap all three of the bodies.
17:19He recognized the plastic wrap was a Home Depot brand, and reached out to the company's security department.
17:26And Home Depot was, within hours of us getting an entry into the house, able to run those two items together to see if they had been purchased in the Southern California region within the last several days or weeks.
17:43A Home Depot in Oceanside, California, had security footage of a man who matched the DMV photo of Pierre Hopch, who also happened to have an Oceanside address.
17:55And that was bam.
17:57We knew.
17:57He's walking out with three huge plastic rolls and, sure enough, duct tape.
18:03So within hours of the crime scene being discovered, Pierre Hopch became a person of interest.
18:10Yes.
18:10But where was Pierre now?
18:13Detectives had a hunch.
18:15Data from the Hahn's cell phones, which were missing, showed they were traveling south, further and further from Santa Barbara.
18:23Then, inexplicably, Henry's phone goes dark, but Jenny's is still on, and it keeps going south.
18:32We're getting basically digital footprints leading down to the Oceanside area from a dead woman's phone.
18:40Any time we're trying to stop somebody that is wanted for homicide, the stakes are going to be high.
19:00The day after the Hahn family was found murdered, a manhunt was underway in Oceanside, California, nearly 200 miles from the crime scene.
19:10Sergeant Anthony Flores and his partner were part of the local Oceanside police team assisting the Santa Barbara investigation.
19:17We had come in to work with our special enforcement section, and we were going to be the stop car for that day, if given up a window of opportunity to take him into custody or potentially stop him.
19:28Meanwhile, undercover detectives were conducting surveillance at the residence Pierre Hopps shared with his father and updating all units, including the homicide team that had driven down from Santa Barbara with Prosecutor Ben Ladine.
19:44All of a sudden, we get chatter on our intercoms. Dad's on the move.
19:49The surveillance team followed Pierre's father as he drove to a Walmart parking lot, where security cameras captured him meeting up with none other than Pierre.
20:00That's Dad driving in a sedan, and then you see the Lexus following shortly behind.
20:08They appear to be communicating briefly together. You can just see that trunk pop on Dad's car.
20:15After transferring two large duffel bags to Pierre's car, they both drove off.
20:22We got to move quickly.
20:24It was a little after midnight, and we just got the update that the suspect was on the move.
20:29As we're traveling, we're hearing that he's pulling into the ARCO station.
20:33We had a few miles of a head start.
20:34The other units and Ladinek had pulled over by the ARCO station, waiting for the arrest team to arrive.
20:41And all of a sudden, you see an unmarked car drive right through the middle of that intersection.
20:47Sparks fly, and it just basically comes in and pulls in and lays on the brakes.
20:52Two huge dudes get out of the car and pull a gun on him and prone him out.
20:56And our eyes are like saucer.
20:58We're like, whoa.
20:59Wow.
21:00It's 200 miles away that this investigation started, and it culminated here.
21:05Sergeant Flores had handcuffed Pierre.
21:08What do you remember about that arrest?
21:10I remember it going down really fast.
21:12All of our senses were heightened.
21:14Within 48 hours of the murders, investigators had the Hahn family's alleged killer in custody.
21:21Pierre Hopsch waived his Miranda rights and started talking to detectives.
21:26What he told them was something out of a spy thriller.
21:29He claimed that his life was in danger.
21:32Over the past couple of days, I kid you not, I've been shot at probably about five individuals so far that I shot in self-defense.
21:45He claimed he was being targeted because of a scientific marvel he had invented.
21:50What does it do?
21:51It's a very, very advanced energy source.
21:54It's a quantum kind of energy source.
21:56I think probably at least 15 individuals who have been connected to this project are dead.
22:02Pierre said he had gone to Dr. Hahn's house earlier in the week to install one of his perpetual energy devices,
22:09and that the plastic wrap and duct tape he was seen purchasing were for that purpose.
22:14Dr. Henry, we signed a contract together.
22:17He was going to facilitate taking the technology out to China.
22:21Loved the guy to death.
22:22He really, really liked this project.
22:24Pierre said he had left Santa Barbara around 2 p.m. on March 22nd, the day before the murders,
22:31after signing the contract.
22:33But detectives pushed back.
22:35Is there a word of this story that you're not telling me?
22:38Dr. Hahn is dead or murdered whites?
22:40I had no clue that, oh my gosh, everything was perfectly fine when I left.
22:47Pierre was adamant he would never hurt the family,
22:50and insisted the shadowy figures who had been after him had killed the Hans and were trying to frame him for murder.
22:58I needed a technology that changes the world at oil companies, and people don't want this technology out there.
23:05It was this massive conspiracy to keep this next-level energy system from getting out to market.
23:12James Bond, Mission Impossible, this fantastical life.
23:15I jumped out the window.
23:17Pierre's outlandish story continued.
23:19But then detectives received an unexpected call from someone who claimed to have information about the murders.
23:27I'm a pretty rough-around-the-edges guy.
23:29I have rough-around-the-edges friends.
23:31T.J. Dorito was a marijuana grower who said Dr. Hahn had approached him about supplying CPD-rich strains.
23:39T.J. had also met Pierre.
23:41Dr. Henry had told me that he was like a prodigy street chemist.
23:45He had done some stuff that was ahead of his time.
23:47So a little bit of a mad scientist, perhaps.
23:49Yeah, I would say.
23:50According to T.J., Pierre had a penchant for making up grandiose stories to seek attention.
23:57But he befriended him nonetheless.
23:59He was that awkward kid that wanted to fit in.
24:03And I was the guy in high school that stuck up for kids like that.
24:07So I took an interest in him in that regard.
24:10You think he trusted you then?
24:12Oh, he absolutely trusted me.
24:14As T.J. revealed to detectives, Pierre had reached out to him via text the morning of the murders.
24:21The message sent at 9.39 a.m. said,
24:25I need your help with something urgently, like it's urgent.
24:30What was he asking for?
24:31Uh, he needed my help moving something.
24:35He says Pierre told him he was in Santa Barbara and needed to talk face to face.
24:41So T.J. had him come to his house in Thousand Oaks, about an hour away.
24:46The first thing out of his mouth, just so you know, I'm a monster.
24:49He had told me right then and there that he had killed Dr. Henry, his wife and his child, and needed help.
24:55Did he give you details of what he did?
24:58He did.
25:00T.J. told detectives Pierre said he had tried to put the bodies in his car, but they wouldn't all fit, and Henry was too heavy.
25:08Details Lundinig says only the killer would know.
25:12How the killings were done, how the bodies were wrapped up, how he had the doctor's phone.
25:17T.J. told detectives Pierre had also revealed his motive, $20 million that he planned to drain from Henry's accounts after killing the family.
25:28T.J. says he didn't know if what he was hearing was another one of Pierre's far-fetched stories.
25:33And until he knew for sure, he decided to play along.
25:37I just wanted to get him out of the house and confirm whether what he had just said was true or not.
25:42I said, let me work on it and I'll call you later.
25:45Once Pierre was gone, T.J. tried to reach Dr. Hahn and anyone who might have information, to no avail.
25:52I didn't want to call the police because I wasn't sure yet.
25:56It was chaotic. It was scary and also confusing.
25:58Pierre kept messaging him.
26:02Around 5 p.m., when T.J. still hadn't provided any assistance, Pierre texted him with a proposition.
26:09Want to come to Vegas tonight, I'll pay.
26:12What did you think the reason for that all of a sudden trip to Vegas?
26:16At that point, I wasn't sure. It didn't sound right.
26:19It was probably going to kill me and somehow make it look like I had something to do with it.
26:25You were going to be the fall guy.
26:26Right.
26:26T.J. made up an excuse why he couldn't go, and Pierre would send him one final text at 7.35 that night.
26:35Yep, I'm screwed. They just found everything. My life's over. Only if I'd got to it all sooner.
26:43Ledinig says Pierre had just returned to the crime scene with a big truck to transport the bodies,
26:50but law enforcement had beaten him to the scene.
26:53He knew his goose was cooked.
26:56Pierre Hopche's arrest near Oceanside, California had come at a critical juncture.
27:13He was armed with a 9-millimeter handgun that was in plain view on the driver's side floorboard.
27:20He also had his passport and those duffel bags, which he had received from his father minutes earlier.
27:27Two go bags. Basically, whatever you need, clothes, everything for the person to live for months.
27:35Hopche's father was also detained and questioned, but he was released later that morning.
27:40We could have charged him as an accessory, but we didn't have any indication that dad was involved in any way, shape, or form in the killing.
27:49The next day, during a closer examination of Hopche's car at the crime lab...
27:54You name it, we found it in that car.
27:56There was Henry's wallet, credit card, and social security number, along with an expended shell casing.
28:04There were also the victim's phones and tablet, all wrapped in aluminum foil in an attempt to evade tracking.
28:12In the trunk, you lift up where the spare tire would be, the murder weapon, suppressor, silencer, ammunition.
28:19A week after the murders, the autopsies revealed the victims had been shot 14 times, three each into Henry and Jenny, and most disturbing, eight in Emily.
28:32That ammunition is the same stuff that we found at the crime scene, in the decedent's bodies.
28:38Match, match, match, match, match, everything.
28:40Pierre Hopche was charged with three counts of first-degree murder, making him eligible for the death penalty.
28:47It was one of the most challenging cases, if not the most challenging case, I ever came upon.
28:54Defense attorney Christine Voss, who was with the public defender's office at the time, represented Hopche.
29:00He really wanted to be vindicated.
29:03To me, the goal was for him to not get death.
29:07At the 11th hour, the DA's office agreed to waive the death penalty in exchange for a more expedient bench trial,
29:15which meant a judge, not jury, would render a verdict.
29:19On October 25th, 2021, more than five and a half years after the murders,
29:25the prosecution delivered its opening statement and laid out its theory of the case,
29:30that Pierre Hopche had plotted the murder of the Hahn family for financial gain.
29:35They painted him as a career con man who, up until the murders, flaunted his intelligence and suppose it well.
29:44His entire life's drive was being rich.
29:48He sent screenshots of his Chase account from anywhere from about $3 million up to $940 million
29:55to various people attempting to dupe them, that he's this jet-setting billionaire.
30:01Hopche claimed he had received big offers for his energy technology.
30:06I'm not a scientist, but I don't know that there's a such thing as a perpetual energy machine.
30:10But several years before the murders, Hopche was actually being paid to build one.
30:15It was going to be a new source of energy, as if he was, you know, an Elon Musk.
30:21Samantha Spidell met Pierre Hopche circa 2012 when he moved into a penthouse apartment
30:26in a luxury high-rise she managed in Tempe, Arizona.
30:31He pulled up and had this bright red Ferrari. It was very flashy.
30:35Ledenik says Hopche had duped a group of high-rolling investors into financing his invention
30:41until they realized it didn't actually work.
30:45He had basically defrauded all these people and the money dried up.
30:48When the murders were committed, I think he had less than $500 to his name.
30:54Prosecutors presented a detailed timeline retracing Hopche's movements,
30:59including his digital footprint in the days before and after the murders.
31:05They say as early as March 17th, six days before the murders,
31:10he had looked into impersonating the doctor at his bank.
31:13He's searching for Asian disguises and real-flesh masks.
31:19Like a Mission Impossible face mask.
31:21Right, 100%. This is his fantastical world that he lived in.
31:24There's no evidence he ever purchased a mask,
31:27but a time-stamped receipt and security video placed him at an Arizona gun store
31:33four days before the murders, purchasing ammunition and two firearms,
31:39including the alleged murder weapon.
31:4222 pistol with a threaded barrel for what is a silencer or suppressor.
31:49On March 20th, he was back in Oceanside, California, buying supplies
31:54before driving up to the Hans' house under the guise of installing the energy machine.
32:00Instead, Ledenik says Hopche bugged Henry's computer with a spyware app called a keylogger.
32:07What keyloggers do is every stroke, every click of the mouse, every navigation page you go,
32:14it documents all of it.
32:16To their surprise, investigators also found the keylogger on Hopche's laptop.
32:22On March 21st, while Hopche was still at the Hans' home,
32:26the keylogger had recorded chilling search terms on his laptop.
32:31What part of the skull is more penetrable?
32:34What ammunition would be better?
32:36As a guest in Dr. Hans' house, he'd been staying there for the two nights before,
32:41planning this execution-style murder.
32:45Pierre Hopche left the Hans' residence on March 22nd.
32:49The prosecutors allege he went back around 4 a.m. the next morning to carry out the murders.
32:55They say later that day, he began frantically trying to siphon money from Henry's accounts.
33:01He's using phones. He's using fake e-mail accounts.
33:05He's doing all these things from personal identifying information of Dr. Hans that he stole earlier that week.
33:13A chase fraud alert had flagged an attempted payment for $72,000.
33:19Meanwhile, Hopche also rented that big truck he allegedly drove to the crime scene, hoping to move the bodies.
33:26There are black and whites all over that house.
33:29The crime scene's being processed.
33:31The Palumbo's say the meeting they were supposed to have with Henry just hours after he was murdered had foiled Pierre Hopche's plans.
33:39He thought that he had that whole day to clean up his mess before Henry would be missed.
33:45I think we screwed it up for him, happily.
33:49That's when prosecutors say he fled, driving south toward Oceanside.
33:55Ledinig argues Hopche's subsequent searches betray his guilty conscience.
34:00Is car searched entering Tijuana?
34:03How crime scene investigation works?
34:05And how long do fingerprints take to process?
34:10Incredibly, he even consulted an online psychic named Count Marco and asked him,
34:17Will I get caught for what I did?
34:19And Count Marco replies, Well, what did you do, Pierre?
34:24Pierre Hopche never gave Count Marco an explanation.
34:28But on the stand, he couldn't stop talking.
34:35This was a tough case.
34:51But that didn't change the fact that Pierre was entitled to a vigorous defense.
34:56Defense attorney Christine Voss was in an unusual position.
35:00This was a really well-investigated case.
35:04Because my client wanted to have a trial and wanted me to turn every stone, I did.
35:11Turn every stone and raise any possible reasonable doubt.
35:16You argued that there were elements presented that were implausible, unprovable, and simply impossible.
35:23Those were your words.
35:24Yeah.
35:24Voss expressed concerns that the alleged murder weapon and silencer found in Hopche's car didn't match up.
35:33It absolutely did not connect to the firearm that they believed was the murder weapon.
35:38She seized on discrepancies in the location data from Hopche's car and phone that the prosecution had used in its timeline.
35:46He could not possibly have been in San Diego and Santa Barbara simultaneously, or Thousand Oaks and Santa Barbara simultaneously.
35:56But that's what the GPS data showed.
35:58And she attacked the credibility of the prosecution's star witness, TJ Dorita.
36:04Voss questioned why Dorita waited nearly two days to contact authorities, and argued in that time, he could have gotten details about the crime scene that the prosecution claimed only the killer knew.
36:19It was not the best-kept crime scene.
36:22He was making various phone calls after he heard about the death of Dr. Hahn.
36:29But Voss concedes much of Dorita's testimony was corroborated by the evidence.
36:35This case was over within the first 72 hours.
36:39In fact, the only witness who provided testimony that someone other than Pierre Hopche was the killer was Pierre Hopche.
36:48During three days on the stand, he repeated the action-packed account he had given detectives about having shootouts with shadowy figures.
36:57Now, he said he was sure they were sent by the Department of Energy.
37:02It sounds like there would be a trail of bodies, but yet, is there proof of this trail of bodies anywhere, to your knowledge?
37:10No.
37:10Which further made him believe it was the Department of Energy.
37:14And what about all that evidence investigators found?
37:19The DOE planted them there.
37:21It's all a frame.
37:22All that stuff is framed.
37:24The banking stuff, framed job.
37:26What's in my car, framed job.
37:28It was difficult for me to embrace Pierre's testimony.
37:35Do you think he himself believed some of the things he was saying were true?
37:40Oh, yeah.
37:40Definitely.
37:42He was obsessed with the government.
37:45Samantha Spidell attests there were some kernels of truth in his stories.
37:49Pierre mentioned that his dad had ties to the CIA.
37:56And I could tell that he wanted his dad's approval.
38:03When his father died in 2023, his obituary stated he was a key player in clandestine Central Intelligence Agency operations during the 1980s.
38:13Hopsch also told Spidell that his sister was going to star in a reality TV show.
38:18She got cast on a newlyweds reality show and Pierre was going to be in it.
38:25Come to find out, that was true.
38:28In fact, both Hopsch and his father made appearances on the second season of the Bravo TV series, Newlyweds, the first year.
38:38Start by filling that up.
38:39Pierre was even shown giving his brother-in-law a cooking lesson.
38:43More black pepper.
38:44But prosecutor Ben Ledinig argued any grains of authenticity in Hopsch's life were far outweighed by deceit.
38:55You called him a lying liar who lies about lying.
38:59Right.
39:00Lie, lie, lie, lie.
39:03Hundreds of lies we found on him.
39:06His life was a con.
39:07On November 24th, 2021, Judge Brian Hill would get the case.
39:14None of Pierre Hopsch's family members attended his trial.
39:18The judge made his ruling.
39:21Guilty on all counts.
39:23The judge, when he issued his ruling, said his decision was beyond a shadow of a doubt.
39:29Absolutely no doubt of Pierre Hopsch's guilt.
39:33Yeah, very satisfactory to hear that.
39:35I wasn't surprised.
39:38And what was Pierre's reaction upon hearing that ruling?
39:41Well, he was visibly disappointed.
39:44On April 15th, 2022, Pierre Hopsch was sentenced to three life terms without the possibility of parole.
39:54It was little comfort to those still mourning Henry, Jenny and Emily.
40:00I don't understand how there really could be justice.
40:06He's still alive.
40:07And they're not.
40:09He took precious moments that we'll never get.
40:15I want him to feel every pain possible for what he did.
40:19Not enough bad things can happen for him.
40:22Nearly a decade after the murders, the wounds are still raw.
40:27It's hard to think of him.
40:31He was a really good man.
40:34You don't replace a Henry Hahn.
40:37No.
40:38Pretty much every day I think of Henry and Jenny and Emily.
40:42There's an old phrase that a good man and a good family lives for a limited time, but a good name shall live forever.
40:57They lived too short, but their name lives on forever.
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41:30Gracias por ver el video.
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