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00:00Previously on Sister Wives.
00:03All right, well, you guys will like this.
00:04I've got some good news.
00:05They offered full asking price on two lots,
00:09which Robin and I own one of them,
00:11and you two own the other.
00:13I will not sign anything about a sale of the property
00:16if my name is not on the pieces of property
00:19that it should be on.
00:20If we're working together, we'll get this sold.
00:23Great.
00:23They've expected me to do all the work,
00:25clean it up, and get it sold.
00:28They haven't done anything.
00:30You and Cody could hang out.
00:33You guys want to go on a trip together?
00:34That's gone a little too far.
00:38I got another one of those emails from some woman.
00:41What about it?
00:43She's calling me out and then asking sort of, like,
00:45to get to know us for the purpose of joining the family.
00:48Any young woman would be like,
00:50oh, he is marriageable material because he's already married.
00:53She's calling me out and then asking me out for the purpose of being married.
00:54She's calling me out and then asking me out for the purpose of being married.
00:55She's calling me out and then asking me out for the purpose of being married.
00:56She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
00:57She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
00:58She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
00:59She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
01:00She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
01:01She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
01:02She's calling me out for the purpose of being married.
01:03She's calling me out for being married.
01:04She's calling me out for being married.
01:05She's calling me out for being married.
01:06She's calling me out for being married.
01:07She's calling me out for being married.
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01:38I've been slowly trying to go through boxes and just get rid of stuff that I don't need.
01:43Today, I have my boxes of my wedding stuff.
01:48I'm going to go through it, and it's going to be a little bit weird, and, yeah.
01:54Oh.
01:55Okay, look, this was, this was our wedding announcement.
02:02We were babies.
02:03Hi, lovey.
02:04Like, what do you do with this stuff?
02:06This is part of my history.
02:08Reception and ball.
02:10Yeah, because he loved to dance.
02:12Okay, we did not want to have the typical, traditional, polygamous wedding reception.
02:18Do polygamous, are they allowed to dance?
02:20We are.
02:21Cody and I both knew, going into our marriage, that there would eventually be another wife.
02:30So, a typical, traditional, polygamous wedding.
02:34You go to the gymnasium at the church, and you have a line of people.
02:41But I didn't want that.
02:49I was very shy.
02:51Like, I did not want to have a line.
02:53I didn't want to stand in the line and shake people's hands and give people hugs that I didn't know,
02:56because my parents were going to be inviting people.
02:59I don't know these people, and I don't want to have to stand in line and hug them.
03:02I wanted to dance at our wedding, but it was at our church, so it had to be puritanical.
03:10Rock and roll was kind of a taboo, so we're not going to have that at our wedding.
03:13It would have been inappropriate by the church's standards.
03:17This is your dress?
03:19That's my wedding dress.
03:21Look how tiny your waist was.
03:22Yeah, you know what?
03:24Mine was, too.
03:24I couldn't fit my left leg in my dress at this point.
03:27I might be able to fit my thigh in it.
03:29I think it's pretty.
03:30It's kind of, like, nostalgically sad to me.
03:32I think it's really pretty.
03:33What are you going to do with that, though?
03:34I don't know.
03:35That's not as easy as just handing it to the dog to chew on.
03:37I know.
03:39I don't know what to do with this stuff.
03:41I'm never going to wear it again.
03:42You know, I'm not going to be passing it on to my kiddo.
03:45I don't know what to do with it.
03:46Yeah, I still have the wedding dress that I got married to Cody in.
03:51Is it a good memory, your wedding day?
03:58It was a good memory because I accomplished the thing that I wanted to accomplish.
04:04My goal was to make sure that everybody felt like they were having a good time
04:07and felt comfortable and emotionally safe.
04:10When I got my wedding dress, I needed to be modest.
04:13It was, like, full, like, garments all the way down, all the way down.
04:18When McKelty got married, she was hand-sewing all of her flowers.
04:23What if I cut up, you know, some of it and turned those into flowers?
04:26And so I did.
04:27And those are the flowers she put on her bouquet.
04:28I have my wedding dress still, the cut-up wedding dress for when I first, like, when I married Cody.
04:34But what do people do with wedding dresses?
04:35They do, like, you trash the dress.
04:36It seems like they wear it and they do something fun with it on.
04:41I don't know.
04:42Typically, when you make a dress, you should probably measure, make sure it fits you.
04:48I didn't.
04:49I just cut it out and I made it.
04:50You made your dress?
04:52Yeah, I did.
04:53I'm impressed.
04:54Thank you.
04:55Well, of course I made my own wedding dress.
04:57That's what all 19-year-old polygamous girls do.
05:02You are a really good seamstress.
05:03I should have totally, like, measured.
05:07Yeah, but then it wouldn't have fit right.
05:09The only reason why I am kind of stuck on what to do with this wedding dress is because my grandma helped me make it.
05:19It has nothing to do with the dress is sentimental to me because, you know, obviously I'm divorced.
05:24It's definitely not sentimental.
05:26I don't know where my wedding book is.
05:27It's probably in my, um, dear best friend.
05:32That's Cody's head.
05:33Oh, that's from, I thought it was, like, from the friend Jen or something.
05:38So there's this letter in the box from Cody.
05:42I'm, I'm really confused at this because I know he didn't write me a letter when we got married.
05:48What is this letter?
05:49Why is it here?
05:50I'm so confused.
05:55Thank you.
05:58Thank you very much.
05:59Dinner for two?
06:00Yes, sir.
06:00Right this way.
06:01All right.
06:01Thank you.
06:02How you folks for dinner tonight?
06:03Very well.
06:04Thank you.
06:04Robin and I constantly are engaging our relationship.
06:08This table is all right for us?
06:09Yeah.
06:09That's great.
06:10Thank you.
06:11When we're with the kids, there's a tendency for us to feel like, you know, co-parents or battle buddies.
06:16I didn't get a lot of sleep last night.
06:18No, you don't.
06:18Ever.
06:19The kids have a tendency to draw a lot of our attention.
06:23And it's like, literally, the door to the bedroom is always open.
06:26One kid and then the next kid and the next kid just coming into the room to get a little
06:31love, a little attention, a little conversation with mom.
06:34What?
06:34I just thought of joking around with you, making it sound like it was me keeping you up, not
06:39the kids.
06:40That'd be better, actually.
06:42Would it?
06:42Oh, yeah.
06:42Okay.
06:44Emotional intimacy is something that is constantly necessary for Rob and I.
06:50It's the weirdest thing in the world to have children old enough to have their own complete
06:58lives separate from home.
07:02I don't feel as old as I am.
07:04And so it's weird.
07:05I feel like their age still.
07:07There's a point in your life when you don't feel like you're an old person.
07:10Like, I don't feel like an old person.
07:12You know, it's like, I still want to sit and dance to the 90s music, you know?
07:17Maybe you and I need to do some dancing.
07:19Well, we need to learn how to dance.
07:22Don't we know how to dance together?
07:24You go off into your, like, you go into that crazy stuff you start doing and I'm like...
07:28No, not when we're just together.
07:30When it's just you and me.
07:31I don't even know what I'm doing.
07:32Really?
07:32When it's just you and me.
07:33And so when we dance, he's very exuberant, he's very enthusiastic, and he's very out there.
07:45And I'm just more like, let's just dance.
07:47And he's like, let's add flair.
07:48Let's throw it out of our arms.
07:50Let's, you know, make it exciting.
07:52I'm not going to match his exuberance.
07:54It's just not my style, and I'm not comfortable with it.
07:56It's just embarrassing to me.
07:58And it's almost like he's dancing by himself.
08:00And I'm like, I am, like, what do I...
08:03I can't compete with that.
08:04It's so weird.
08:05I don't have a pump dance.
08:06I have nothing.
08:07This is how I feel when we are dancing, though.
08:11What?
08:11Is that you are my partner.
08:15You know, the tango, it's a horizontal experience for a vertical wish.
08:20Or no, is it a vertical wish with a horizontal...
08:23Wow.
08:24What's the line?
08:24You know the line.
08:27It's a vertical expression of a horizontal wish.
08:33Yeah.
08:35Yes, yeah.
08:35You know, tango is a more intimate dance.
08:39I wouldn't be comfortable doing that with anybody but my hubby, so...
08:42Just give me a chance.
08:44Just one chance.
08:45I'll remind myself.
08:46She's my dance partner.
08:48We can take dance lessons.
08:49No, why do that?
08:50We can...
08:51That'd be fun.
08:52She just doesn't want to do it my way,
08:54so we'd have to go back to our old church
08:56and go to one of those old-fashioned dances
08:58to actually be compatible.
09:03So the dances that we have in the church that we were from,
09:07that we were part of when Cody and I got married,
09:09were very old school.
09:13I come into this fundamentalist sect of my church.
09:17They were really, really conservative.
09:19They were trying to dance the same dances, I think,
09:22that Brigham Young was.
09:23No boogie, no get down, no gyrating hips.
09:29You know, Elvis would have pissed off the people in my church.
09:32But when it was at my home or in my barn or my garage
09:35that we were having a dance, we're playing rock and roll.
09:38We're going to go dancing, and you will not be my accessory.
09:42You will be my partner.
09:44We've got to practice that, because I don't think you know how.
09:47You're asking if I can be tamed.
09:49Well, I am a monogamist now, so maybe I can be tamed.
09:53And again, there's always a wild man in here.
10:03I love that my new normal is that Peyton and Savannah are around.
10:07So it's made it kind of a bigger family that's just around.
10:09I'm really lucky this weekend, because Gabe is here, too.
10:12Peyton needs to leave, because he has a girlfriend.
10:16Peyton's got a girlfriend?
10:17You know this. You've met her.
10:18Oh, yeah, I know.
10:19So who's this girlfriend you're talking about?
10:21Her name is Ava. She's wonderful.
10:23Who's this girlfriend you're talking about?
10:25Her name is Bri.
10:26She's wonderful.
10:27Okay.
10:28And where is she from?
10:29Chicago.
10:29I moved and then met mine.
10:31You met yours, and now you're moving?
10:32I don't know what you're talking about.
10:33When were you going to tell me?
10:35Is this just like, we don't tell family things now?
10:37Wait, wait, wait, wait.
10:38Wait, wait, wait.
10:39Let me get this right.
10:40You have a girlfriend, and now you're moving?
10:42Yeah.
10:43Where are you going?
10:45Chicago.
10:46You're moving in?
10:47Not until October.
10:48Dude, that's like nine months away.
10:50Yeah.
10:50That's a long time of life.
10:51I guess if they make it that long, it's probably okay that they move in together.
10:55Our thoughts exactly.
10:56How'd you meet?
10:56I DM'd her.
10:57Nice.
10:59Modern love story.
11:00I know, so romantic.
11:02I think it's very important to live with someone before you get married, and travel with them as well.
11:06You need to know the other person more before you decide.
11:08It's totally different from how I used to be.
11:10Oh my gosh, I was so pious and so, like, so, so pure.
11:14Whatever.
11:15You're really close to being three weeks out, right?
11:17She can technically come anytime she wants.
11:19Are you done being pregnant?
11:21Yes.
11:21You're over it?
11:23Is this our last one?
11:25If you guys want to have more, that'd be all right.
11:27So it's your turn now?
11:28Yep.
11:28Not yet.
11:29Get married.
11:29Yeah, like, give me a little while.
11:31It's up to you younger ones.
11:33Well, Hunter has no prospects, so.
11:37Is Cody in the loop on what's going on?
11:39No, Maddie doesn't really even tell him that she's pregnant.
11:42He'll find out.
11:47There's no really reason to.
11:48They haven't spoken for a long time.
11:50Wow, how long has it been since they've spoken?
11:54It's probably been two or three years since they've spoken.
11:58Dear best friend, Mary.
12:04You put it in parentheses in case you weren't sure.
12:06Just in case I don't remember.
12:07Mary was very insecure.
12:09She needed a lot of reassurance.
12:11Just remember how much I love you.
12:13So for him to come back and say, oh, I never loved you, it's like, okay.
12:17It's just disrespectful to me.
12:18Okay, that's just weird.
12:29I'm not done reading it, thank you.
12:30What is he saying?
12:33You want me to read it out loud?
12:35I'm afraid.
12:36So in this box, I unpacked a letter from Cody.
12:40So, yeah, this will be interesting to see what it says.
12:42You better stop trying to be all grabby.
12:45Was this wedding day writing?
12:47Or did I just stick it in the wedding stuff box?
12:49I don't know.
12:50Hold on.
12:50Dear best friend, Mary.
12:52You put it in parentheses in case you weren't sure.
12:54Just in case I don't remember.
12:55I'm very sorry I'm not here for you this morning.
12:57Although I'm at work, my heart is with you.
13:00I got to bed at 2 a.m.
13:01No, I know when this was.
13:03And need to leave at 6.15 a.m.
13:05Yeah, he was with his friend Kyle.
13:07Cody used to write me notes a lot in the early years.
13:10Before Janelle was in the family, I think.
13:14Cody was cute with cards.
13:16But I don't think for the past couple of years that we were married that we really exchanged cards that much.
13:21I remember one point telling him, I don't want any more gifts from you.
13:24And I don't want to give you any more gifts.
13:25We're done.
13:26And he's like, oh, okay.
13:28Like, we're done.
13:29They're just pretending.
13:30I'm sorry that our work is keeping us apart, but it will make us tough.
13:33And we do need to make some sacrifices.
13:35Keep your head up and a smile on your face.
13:37You are always so pretty when you smile.
13:39Keep a positive attitude through our trials, and you'll become a stronger person.
13:44The Lord wants us to be strong.
13:46Mary was very insecure.
13:49I spent a good part of my life just trying to build something of confidence there.
13:58Just need a lot of reassurance.
14:01Cody and I both knew that he was going to eventually get another wife.
14:05And this was a big topic of conversation.
14:08I don't know.
14:09I guess I would think that if a man is married to a woman and he's open to, you know, another relationship,
14:17would he not be kind and be reassuring to his wife, knowing that this might be hurtful to her?
14:23If you get down because life is a little bit difficult, just remember how much I love you.
14:29That should keep you warm inside.
14:31I love you tons and gobs.
14:33You're mates for life and eternity.
14:36Cody Brown.
14:38Dang.
14:39That's a lot of words.
14:40That's a lot of words.
14:41You know what?
14:41My grandma used to love it when he would write to him because he writes really well.
14:46This box is literally just the very beginning.
14:51He has written me so many notes and letters over the years.
14:55So for him to come back and say, oh, I never loved you, it's like, okay.
14:59It's just disrespectful to me.
15:00It's disrespectful to the beginning of our family.
15:03It's disrespectful to every one of us women, Robin included, you know, to just be like, eh.
15:13You know what I mean?
15:15It's like, come on.
15:17This is the first hot ring we got together.
15:19He and I had matching ones.
15:20Okay, so check this out.
15:22This one actually has a really, really teeny tiny diamond in it.
15:26Can you see it?
15:27No.
15:27I barely can.
15:28So that diamond, when Janelle married him, her mom gave Cody the wedding ring that had been hers from Janelle's father.
15:41She wanted to put the diamond from that wedding ring into mine and Cody's Clotta rings.
15:47I always thought that was the coolest, coolest gesture.
15:51I thought, I mean, it just kind of, like, made me feel like, like, part of it, I guess, kind of.
15:59I just thought, I always thought it was really sweet.
16:01I should give her that diamond back.
16:04Janelle and I knew each other before Cody and I did.
16:07You know, she had married my brother, and they were married for about a year and a half.
16:12And then fast forward when she ended up coming into our family, there were so many emotions surrounding that.
16:17There's just a lot.
16:19I always felt like when Janelle got married, she was being really cool in the way that she was, like, including me,
16:26and she didn't want to hurt my feelings when, you know, because this is, like, the first plural wife,
16:31and there was a lot of emotions, you know, like, I had a lot of emotions.
16:34We all did.
16:35We're all trying to figure out, like, how to do this plural marriage thing.
16:41And that always made me feel very special that she did that.
16:45And honestly, I'm not sure if I ever told her that.
16:48I don't know if she even knows that.
16:58Do you want a cup of coffee?
16:59Sure.
17:02We had a nice discussion this morning.
17:04I don't know if nice is what you would call it.
17:06I think it was awesome.
17:07So just recently, David and I got into a discussion that was heated, and so we've already had our little fight.
17:15This is probably our biggest, one of our bigger ones.
17:18We...
17:18Because I was talking about Peyton.
17:19We used to be coping.
17:20Yes, yes.
17:20I was talking about Peyton, saying that when I have a deep discussion with him, he has to bring up a movie, quote,
17:26to represent him.
17:28Instead of coming from your heart, he's got to grab a movie somewhere.
17:31Okay, what is that?
17:32There's no problem with that.
17:32David doesn't think that it's a real, valid emotion or feeling if you're expressing yourself and you use movie quotes to express yourself.
17:41If I'm going to meet a woman, I'm not going to pull out these quotes to get her to like me.
17:47You need to come from your heart, so that way it's meaningful.
17:51So look, Peyton just moved to North Carolina, so we talk a lot about Peyton.
17:54David's just concerned that Peyton's not going to be able to really move on with his whole new life if he doesn't embrace his own life.
18:04Okay, let's think of a quote.
18:06First of all, hell hath no fury is a woman scorned.
18:09We can learn a lot from that.
18:09That wasn't from a movie, that was from some ancient movie back in the way of the day.
18:12It's Hamlet.
18:14It's fiction.
18:14See, I told you it was some ancient thing there.
18:16It's fiction.
18:16It's the same thing as you would sit there and say, and we both agree on this one, a happy wife, a happy life.
18:23Right.
18:24Which we know that's not true.
18:26I know that David loves pushing buttons, and he likes this little discussion, and it upsets my stomach really, really, really badly.
18:32I like a good discussion, and I'm not going to take it personally at all, because that's how you learn from other people's point of views.
18:39So, to me, movies have always been a big part of our life, just a big part.
18:44Books, we would read books together and bond on those books.
18:46I can't, I read so many series of books with the kids, same series with Logan, and truly, the girls, I read Twilight three times.
18:54See, but that Twilight is not real.
18:57It gave us something to talk about.
18:59Are there actually men out there that are real?
19:02I didn't want to be real all the time.
19:04It was too hard.
19:05Life was too hard to be real.
19:08I needed sometimes it to be fake and pretend.
19:12The last 10 years, 15 years, I was married to Cody, so many hard times, just where I just, reality was so difficult.
19:22It was easier, just easier, let's just put that all away.
19:27I need to let that go.
19:29It was so hard just to let things go.
19:31So put in a movie, just to escape.
19:33But it's also, it's a two-way street here.
19:37It's not just your way from the way you were raised.
19:39The real world out there is different from the way you guys were raised and what you went through.
19:45Now, I'm sorry that other people, their intentions in the beginning were this way, and then it turned out to be something else.
19:52I'm sorry for that.
19:53I'm not that way, though.
19:56There's a lot of scenarios that happen where it's best just to hold your tongue.
20:00And I'm like, look, love, I'm 52.
20:02So it's hard.
20:04It's difficult to say how I feel about things and to figure out what my truth actually is, because I'm so used to bottling it up.
20:16Because I thought that he had melted down your ring and his ring.
20:19No, he just melted his ring down.
20:21The words that he used was, I didn't want you to have claim on me.
20:27So, asshat.
20:28Are you guys dance instructors?
20:29Yes.
20:30Okay.
20:30I've been asking her to come here to dance with me, and she says not until you have a dance lesson.
20:33Robin was like, I don't like dancing with you because you're like a stripper, and I'm like the pole.
20:38Yeah, this museum club is something that Robin and I have been driving past.
20:48You know, it's right on Route 66.
20:50It's got fame.
20:51People talk about it all the time.
20:52So we've set up a chance to have a dance lesson, and we're headed there now.
20:58Knock, knock.
20:59Hi.
20:59Hey, how's it going?
21:00Hi.
21:01How are you guys?
21:02Good, how are you?
21:02I'm Robin.
21:03Jordan, nice to meet you, Robin.
21:04Nice to meet you.
21:04Are you guys dance instructors?
21:06Yeah.
21:06Okay, cool.
21:07We got the right place.
21:08I've been asking her to come here to dance with me, and she says not until you have a dance
21:11lesson.
21:12And I'm like, why?
21:13We can dance together.
21:14Tell them why.
21:16Because he dances with me like I'm the pole, and he's dancing around me like I'm his accessory.
21:22See, this is a very good example of Cody being out open and me not being comfortable.
21:27He's like, she has a problem with my dancing.
21:29I'm like, okay, you know what?
21:30Like, we just didn't need to tell them this.
21:32Like, we just need to go learn.
21:33I think it's more when you're like kind of just boogieing, I guess you'd say.
21:38Yeah.
21:38And I end up being the person he dances around in circles, and I'm just like, what?
21:45Yeah, I think.
21:47I think she complains too much about this.
21:49Cody was always fun to dance with.
21:51He was.
21:51He has his own dance.
21:52It's called the pump dance.
21:55And it's this moving arms and hips and head, and I don't even know.
22:00He loves it, and he just completely just loses himself in it, and that's great.
22:05I envy him.
22:06I'm like, I don't know what to do with what you're doing.
22:09You don't want to lead, do you?
22:12No.
22:13I just want to be equal.
22:15Okay, all right.
22:16In our exuberance, in our excitement.
22:18All right.
22:19That's all.
22:19Getting to a point where Robin was like, I don't like dancing with you because you're
22:23like a stripper, and I'm like the pole.
22:25When she starts going into labor, I'm going to need all hands on deck.
22:38Yeah.
22:38Either I'm going to have to take you to the hospital, or, um...
22:41No, Caleb will take me to the hospital.
22:43Caleb's not home.
22:44Caleb's at work.
22:44When mom's gone.
22:45I'll give this to Maddie.
22:46She can hold off until I usually get home.
22:48No, I think that's what happened with Evie.
22:49That's what happened with Evie.
22:50I'm willing to do.
22:52I'm pretty deterred.
22:53I'm pretty sure you just helped yourself in touch, because the minute you came, all
22:56of a sudden it was like, boom, with Evie.
22:58Yeah.
22:58Once she goes into labor, it's quick.
23:00So I don't anticipate that they're going to be gone very long.
23:03But she can't wait around at the house, either.
23:04So what's going to happen, Evie, is probably mom likes to have babies in the wee hours of
23:10the night.
23:11We're going to probably have to be over there for 24 hours.
23:14But you're going to be here with grandma and Aunt Savannah.
23:16Because they're going to keep mom under observation and baby sister.
23:20What observation?
23:22They have to make sure that, um...
23:24Baby's healthy.
23:25Got to make sure mom and baby are healthy.
23:26So when you're observing something, you're watching.
23:29Yes.
23:29So they just have to watch to make sure nothing bad has happened.
23:32Nothing usually does.
23:33They have midwives at the hospital, and they have these birthing suites.
23:37So it's kind of like you're giving birth at home.
23:39They let you do it with, like, without a lot of intervention.
23:42The thought process is if you need help, the doctor is right there.
23:45Mom?
23:45I don't know if I can keep, sorry.
23:47Yes, ma'am.
23:48Um, why are you getting set for the baby today?
23:52Because it's coming soon.
23:54Did you know that?
23:55Yeah.
23:57Technically, it's any day.
23:59All three babies have come right on their due date.
24:01So, like, we're expecting at any moment.
24:03And she's really had some, like, where she started, and then she'd stop after an hour or two.
24:08But, like, they really got pretty serious, so we think we're eminent.
24:14So you told me recently that, because I thought that he had melted down your ring and his ring.
24:20No.
24:20But you kept your ring?
24:22No, he just melted his ring down.
24:24Oh, okay.
24:25That you gave him.
24:26And, yeah.
24:27Some of it went to, like, some kid's jewelry.
24:30And then the rest of it he put into a necklace that he made for me.
24:35I don't know.
24:36The whole thing was just weird.
24:37He did keep the diamonds and some of the gold and had made into a necklace for me years later after I nagged him to do it.
24:46Honestly, I asked him about it multiple times.
24:48I'm sure he felt, I have no doubt that he felt nagged.
24:51I just always wondered why he didn't just let me have the ring.
24:55Like, now it doesn't matter, obviously, because I don't even know what I'm going to do with this.
24:57Why didn't he just let you have the ring?
25:00How did he say it?
25:02He said that he wanted to melt it down because he didn't want me to have claim on him.
25:06That asshat.
25:08The words that he used was, I didn't want you to have claim on me.
25:13You know, I guess I thought that that's what a husband and wife were, is we had claim on each other.
25:18I just didn't want Mary to have more claim, more claim on me than Christine and Janelle.
25:24There was just something about Mary who wanted more of everything, and it felt like a demand.
25:30It doesn't matter now.
25:31It's just weird.
25:32So are you going to melt it down?
25:33I don't know, because if I melt it down, there's still that, oh, it's part of the ring that Cody had.
25:39And you know what I mean?
25:40Like, and the same with all, break.
25:43Listen, melt it down.
25:44The same with all of this stuff.
25:45And make Leon and Audge like matching bands or something.
25:48They're not going to want that.
25:49No, they probably won't.
25:50That's true.
25:51Like, who's going to want the sentimental, like, this stuff?
25:53But if it's melted down, maybe they'd be okay with that?
25:55It's like energy.
25:56It takes energy.
25:57That's true.
25:59You know, I had a three-decade marriage, and it's going to take a lot of time to go through
26:06all of my stuff.
26:07That's just weird.
26:08What are you going to do with that?
26:10Throw them away.
26:10And, like, there are things that I just know that is out.
26:16I don't want it anymore.
26:17It brings a bad vibe.
26:19You can look like a bride.
26:21You know, I was divorced.
26:23Marriage was over.
26:23And now I just want to be done.
26:25And so I literally just put it all in a storage unit and locked the door.
26:34You're going to be a big brother again to three little sisters.
26:39To my girl.
26:40Axel was very excited until he found out that the gender is a girl.
26:44He was a little bit disappointed he's not going to get a brother.
26:46If I'm having a bad time with Cody, I don't want to see him being physically affectionate
26:50with other wives in front of me.
26:51All it does is create a lot of hate.
26:53People ask all the time, were you not jealous?
26:55Well, yes, I was.
26:56Oh, no, the famous quote is, endure to the end.
26:59Endure to the end, if you can imagine.
27:01That's sad.
27:02Endure.
27:11All right, hopefully this is all the stuff.
27:13It's not.
27:14It's not?
27:14It's a screen.
27:15What is that for?
27:16That's my outfit.
27:18Do you just want to go on the couch?
27:19Would it be easier?
27:19Yeah.
27:19Or here?
27:20Probably.
27:20I just don't want to move.
27:22It's a lot of work to move.
27:23Maddie and Caleb are getting ready.
27:24They're packing their go bag because she doesn't usually come early, but she could.
27:28That way they're ready.
27:29You got to get ready for your baby sister.
27:31You ready?
27:32You excited?
27:34You're going to be a big brother again to three little sisters.
27:39You like being the big brother?
27:41You do?
27:42Yes?
27:42Axel was very excited until he found out that the gender is a girl.
27:46He was a little bit disappointed he's not going to get a brother.
27:49You like having all these sisters?
27:52No?
27:53Why?
27:54Too much girls.
27:56I think God blessed us with these girls because he knew you and I would be their protectors
28:03and they need us.
28:07So you know what?
28:08I see them as a blessing.
28:10Thank you.
28:11What else did you add?
28:12Toothpaste.
28:13Toothbrush.
28:13I hope you babies know how to spell brush.
28:16K-R-U-S-A.
28:18Very good, because that's our last name.
28:24Like David and I got into this heated discussion because he's talking about these conversations
28:28that he has with Hayden, but in the end just trying to boil it down to finding authenticity.
28:33I like the real conversations.
28:36I do.
28:36It's good.
28:40It was easy.
28:41It was so necessary to connect with fiction.
28:44It was just so necessary.
28:45I try not to discredit your, how you look at it.
28:51Other people might have done that to you, but I don't do that because I like a good conversation
28:56to where we can talk and you disagree and I disagree, but we're still together.
29:01We're still fine.
29:01And I'm not going to ever, well, I'm going to punish you because you grieve this way
29:05or do this way.
29:06Because I hated that when someone was shut down and it was like, we're just talking
29:09and they quickly want to shut you down and basically punish you for your thoughts.
29:14Polygamy dilutes a marriage because you don't have to spend the time that it takes to make
29:21your relationship better.
29:23David said at one point, he's like, I don't think you were really meant for polygamy.
29:26And I just think about all those discussions where Cody was like, I don't think you're
29:30meant for polygamy.
29:32He may have been right.
29:34Look, if I'm having a bad time with Cody and a bad situation, I don't want to see him
29:39being physically affectionate with other wives in front of me, like a slap in the face.
29:42All it does is create a lot of hate, a lot of jealousy, a lot of control.
29:48And the biggest culprit of all, if you want to let me hear it, it's the man.
29:52So you're not of the opinion if they're adults, they can just pick whatever they want to do?
29:56No.
29:58I've definitely seen that.
29:59I've talked to friends that their biggest thing is, you know what I love about polygamy?
30:03Is they compete for my love.
30:06And the guy has an ego.
30:07They do have an ego.
30:09No, but they teach you that it makes you better.
30:11It makes you better.
30:12You feel those feelings, you learn to deal with those feelings, and then you move on,
30:16and you become a better person.
30:16No, they tell you to let go of those feelings.
30:18And let go.
30:19Oh, no, the famous quote is, endure to the end.
30:22Endure to the end, if you can imagine.
30:24That's sad.
30:25Endure.
30:27Cody and I were married really young.
30:29And, I mean, there was a time, you know, that I was like, do I want to do this?
30:33Do I want to live polygamy?
30:35Yeah, so we decided that this is what we're going to do.
30:40And I knew that I would have the emotion about it when somebody did finally come into the
30:45family, and I did.
30:49I didn't handle myself the best all the time.
30:53I remember being very jealous, you know?
30:55People ask all the time, were you not jealous?
30:57Well, yes, I was.
30:58How can you not be jealous?
31:00I thought I was living polygamy wrong.
31:02I thought I was a human being wrong.
31:04I thought I was a woman wrong, a wife wrong.
31:07I couldn't even have a baby, for heaven's sakes, you know?
31:10So everything about me was wrong.
31:13It was hard.
31:15It was hard.
31:17So you think with polygamy, a big flaw would be the man, you said?
31:22Yeah.
31:22Oh, yeah.
31:23Oh, yeah, a major flaw right there.
31:24And I know you said before, you felt like they liked the attention.
31:27They liked it when they had to fight over them.
31:29Oh, they loved the fighting.
31:30They loved the competition between the women.
31:32Did they say that was all polygamy's men?
31:34Majority of the ones that I've been around, and I've been around hundreds of them, yes.
31:38They use it to control the women in that part.
31:43If you're not obeying me, I'm punishing you, and I'm going to go to the other one.
31:47And the one's like, sure, I'll take you right in.
31:49And that's what polygamy does, is control women.
31:51And it's not a right thing to do.
31:53There are a lot of tragic stories in polygamy, but there are in monogamy as well.
31:58And I think it's really dangerous to paint a whole group of people with a broad brush based on one observed experience.
32:05And honestly, the secrecy and lack of empowerment for women have sort of allowed some of those things to flourish.
32:12That was one of the reasons we went public.
32:13We wanted to sort of end that.
32:15So David's two sisters that lived polygamy had a really, really rough time.
32:28So he knows about polygamy.
32:30He knows the ins and outs of it, and he's known about it for years.
32:33There's times I wanted to beat the living crap out of that dude.
32:36I was only 16 years old at the time.
32:39Because the crap that he would use, he would say, if you don't obey me, you're going to hell.
32:44I didn't feel like I was being controlled by Cody.
32:47In the polygamy's church, they have like garments or like clothes that go under the clothes that like signify and represent your relationship with God and a lot of other things.
32:55I mean, I looked at all of my pictures of the clothes that I was wearing while I was wearing garments, and I'm like, I was front girl for years.
33:04If you look like you're front girl, you probably have low self-esteem, and therefore you're easily controllable.
33:08So as soon as I thought, these are a form of control, I can't wear them anymore.
33:12I told Cody I was not wearing my garments, I wasn't going to wear them anymore.
33:15And he goes, well, how's your relationship with God?
33:17And I said, my relationship with God is fine.
33:20He's like, okay, that's fine.
33:21He didn't care.
33:22He didn't care that I took them off, and I was never going to wear them again.
33:24And it's not God, because my God would never do that, punish somebody, tell them they're going to hell if they don't obey this.
33:34Basically, go ahead and have a miserable life, because when you die, you earn the celestial kingdom.
33:41You earn all the way up, and you get to live with God.
33:43If you endure, that's sad.
33:48How about if we enjoy to the end?
33:49I'm just saying, what if that was a, can we just enjoy maybe to the end?
33:54I'm glad we can disagree sometimes.
33:56Oh, I love it.
33:58Oh my God, you love it?
34:00I've got to have a discussion with somebody.
34:02Okay.
34:03I love you.
34:09Love you, too.
34:13Bring the hand down and set back.
34:16I'm missing it again.
34:17Somewhere I'm getting the footwork wrong.
34:19I don't know that I'm really good at picking things up quickly.
34:23I'm debating if I should go for a walk.
34:25Whatever you need to do, and I will cook up the kids.
34:27And I'll tell you, I think Maddie's just feeling tortured.
34:30Every minute, she's like, oh, was that a contraction?
34:39I had a dancing life.
34:42Dancing was part of my lifestyle in the past.
34:44Even as strange as these church dances were, you know, when we were in this plogamous society,
34:52Robin and I, our conversation, our first real conversation was at a dance.
34:58Cool.
34:58I'm going to take my jacket off.
34:59You guys are going to teach, right?
35:00Yes.
35:01So I'm actually going to have you join Elizabeth on that side real quick.
35:03We're going to talk to you.
35:04Cody, I'm going to keep you on this side.
35:05Okay.
35:05And we're going to talk about basic footwork here.
35:07Okay.
35:07So right now, Cody, what I want you to do is I want you to take your right foot and just put it behind you.
35:11And then your left foot, if you move it, it should be the only one you can move.
35:15I don't know that I'm really good at picking things up quickly.
35:19I want to.
35:21You're going to bring this hand up.
35:22Up.
35:22Over.
35:23And you're going to turn, and you are now going to face Robin's back, Cody.
35:27So she should be directly in front of you.
35:29And we can turn to the side so you can also see it.
35:31Oh, so I've been stepping the wrong way this whole time.
35:33Yes, perfect.
35:34So you guys have to correct all of our bad habits.
35:36I love bad habits.
35:36You can always fix them.
35:38I have to do the movement over and over and over and over and over and over in order to make it habitual.
35:46When I learn a new move, drill it 10 times.
35:49When I've drilled it 10 times, I'll get it.
35:5010.
35:51That's a lot.
35:52Well, you'll remember, too.
35:54Robin moves with grace.
35:56She does things with grace.
35:58Maybe she doesn't take the same amount of risk, or maybe she's just very cautious.
36:02And I'm very aggressive.
36:04So it's not giving a good balance to our, I guess, the rhythm of our dance.
36:11I turn this way, and...
36:13No.
36:14Follow will be behind you on that first.
36:15Oh, that's...
36:16We're going to be here.
36:17All right, I've got to drill it two more times, so...
36:18Okay.
36:20And now...
36:21Hold on, I did it wrong.
36:22Can you show me one more time?
36:23All good, all good.
36:23I'm willing to do the work, but the instructor's going to have to be patient, and my partner's
36:27going to have to be patient, because I've got to drill this 100 times.
36:35Baby's really low.
36:36You look different today.
36:38I'm debating if I should go for a walk.
36:40I'm just going to put this down here.
36:47Okay.
36:49Just so that it's...
36:50That's smart.
36:50Just to have it here in case it throws a flea for something.
36:52Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
36:54Or if, like, it's in the middle of the night, so we know where it is.
36:57And I'll tell you, we are here, and I think Maddie's just feeling tortured.
37:02Every minute, she's like, oh, was that a...
37:03Was that a contraction?
37:05It is the time for the hospital bag.
37:08Yes.
37:11When I get married again, I'm 100% not going to wear a dress like this.
37:15Are you going to make your own dress, though?
37:17Nope.
37:17100% not going to make my own dress.
37:19Like, the moment of our wedding, the moment of our early marriage, the moment of so many
37:24different parts in our lives were so good.
37:27It was that moment that Cody and I got married that started the trajectory of my life, and
37:34his life, and Christine's life, and Janelle's life, and Robin, and you know what I mean?
37:39Like, that's what started it.
37:42And then to look at it now with Christine gone, and Janelle gone, and me gone, and this
37:47strained relationship with Cody and so many of his children, it's sad.
37:53I don't know.
37:54It's an interesting idea in the church culture that we came from that suffering was going
38:00to make you better.
38:01Because if you suffer, then you have it made.
38:05I don't think that we need to endure the pain and the struggles and the challenges.
38:12I think what we need to do is figure out how to go through them.
38:15Slide, present, turn, behind the back.
38:23I'm still feeling a little bit lost.
38:24When they show me another sequence, am I going to forget this one?
38:30This is different than what I've been doing.
38:32So much so that I'll have to continue doing this routine so that I can change the habits
38:38of what I've been doing.
38:40Only time will tell.
38:41We're going to have to see how this dance goes.
38:42Next time on Sister Wives.
38:51We have a full offer.
38:53We're going to close on Coyote Pass.
38:55Pretty soon we'll meet out on the property with Mary, Janelle, and it'll be all over.
39:00You're worried.
39:02Oh, I wonder why.
39:03I got in this place where I was like, backdoor deal almost with Janelle.
39:07Hey, we'll just sell it out from under these other two.
39:09This is bull****.
39:10I'm not selling the slant until everything is perfectly fair.
39:13We do this the right way.
39:14Sorry.
39:15How do you feel about seeing Robin after everything?
39:18There's not trust with me and Robin.
39:20There's not.
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