01:00There's always the constant talk of collaborations between filmmakers and composers, but if you could share with the audience your particular connection with Rian Johnson.
01:21Well, I tried out for this job when I was about seven.
01:27Rian is my older cousin by three years, and we grew up making movies and making music together kind of all through our childhood, and then we sort of never stopped.
01:39Tell us about the shorthand.
01:41Do you write what you want, even if he doesn't like it?
01:44No, no, no, of course not. I mean, what's great about the shorthand is he doesn't beat around the bush, so if it's wrong, he quickly tells me, but we then quickly move on.
02:00I also start really early on his movies, so yeah, there's a lot of time for me to go down rabbit holes that are not going to be the right thing, and then eventually find the thread.
02:11And you've done everything, going back to brick.
02:15We let John Williams have a go at Star Wars.
02:18Okay.
02:20I think he's got a future.
02:21But aside from that one, yes, everything going back to brick.
02:26So each of the Knives Out movies, you know, the score, each of them have their own different uniqueness.
02:34Tell us about that.
02:35Yeah, I mean, this is actually one of the things that I love.
02:38Rian is not kind of interested in remaking the same movie, so although these may be technically qualified as sequels, we don't really think of them that way.
02:46The first one was like a sharp string quartet in like a claustrophobic New England mansion, and then for Glass Onion, we broke out and went to Grease, and it's like sort of this lush, romantic orchestra.
03:02And then for this one, it's darker.
03:05It's, we're going Edgar Allan Poe, we're going gothic, and Ryan really wanted me to push into a bit more of this underlying dread.
03:19The very first thing you hear in the movie, and the first thing we hear tonight is all of the strings just scratch tone, and then they resolve from that sort of nails on a chalkboard sound into just a single pure tone.
03:31And this is the motif that sort of represents this jewel through the movie, and the thing that I love about that is I feel like it kind of represents so many things in our world, like money or power.
03:47They kind of can be agnostic depending on whose hands they're in, and they can lean good or bad, but I think this movie really feels like a tug of war between ugliness and beauty.
03:58And it sort of culminates in this sort of 11-minute violin concerto, which we heard a little bit of in the suite.
04:07I was going to say, you wrote an 11-minute violin concerto.
04:10Yeah, also that's why we didn't have any video, because it plays during the entire confession.
04:19And then I would never score another Ryan movie again.
04:21So Daniel Craig Sleuth, Benoit Blanc, we see different facets of him between each film.
04:32How does the music volley with him?
04:35This is the really interesting thing, and we didn't know, when we made the first one, we didn't know we were going to be doing a lot of these.
04:40So all the themes I wrote for the first one were about the family, and kind of the little secret with detective fiction is the detective is the lead, but is also not the main character.
04:52So each movie, we kind of find our way into it through sort of his sidekick.
04:57And so Blanc does have a couple motifs that peek their heads up through the different movies.
05:05But by and large, I'm finding a whole new thing to sort of explore with the new characters.
05:11Can you share with us what you're working on next?
05:16No.
05:18I wanted to say yes, but no.
05:21Is it a Ryan project?
05:22No.
05:23Oh, okay.
05:25Excellent.
05:25Another Ryan project is cooking, and I'm very excited about it, but yeah.
05:30Can we twist the cousin's arm to find out if there's a fourth?
05:33Knives out.
05:34I mean, we all feel like we'd love to keep making these for as long as they keep kind of being exciting,
05:40and as long as we don't feel like we're going around the bend again.
05:44There's a lot of love from all of us on the crew and from the actors as well.
05:49So hopefully we keep doing these until Daniel Craig gets, you know, too bored.
05:57Nathan Johnson, Wake Up Dead Man.
05:59Welcome to the wird'scast.
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