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The Malaysia Teacher Prize, which is now in its fourth year, honours teachers who go above and beyond in the classroom; the ones who are redefining what teaching looks like in Malaysia today. On this episode of #ConsiderThis Melisa Idris speaks with Samuel Isaiah, Executive Director of PEMIMPIN and co-founder of the Malaysia Teacher Prize; along with Cikgu Zulazri Yusof from SMK Sultanah Asma, Kedah, who is one of the Top 10 Finalists of the Malaysia Teacher Prize 2025.
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00:00Hello and good evening, I'm Melissa Idris. Welcome to Consider This.
00:14This is the show where we want you to consider and reconsider what you know of the news of the day.
00:19The Malaysia Teacher Prize, which is now in its fourth year,
00:23honours teachers who go above and beyond in the classroom.
00:27The ones who are redefining what teaching looks like in Malaysia today.
00:33So on the show, joining me today to tell us more about how teachers go above and beyond in the classroom
00:40is Samuel Isaiah, who is the Executive Director of Pemimpin.
00:45And he's also the co-founder of the Malaysia Teacher Prize.
00:48I also have Cik Guzel Azri Yusuf from SMK Sultanah Asma in Kedah.
00:53He is one of the top 10 Malaysia Teacher Prize 2025, the top 10 finalists.
01:00So welcome both of you to the show, gentlemen. Thank you so much.
01:03I'm just going to begin with you, Sam.
01:04If you could maybe begin by briefly explaining Malaysia Teacher Prize.
01:09For those of us who may not be familiar, why did Pemimpin launch this initiative?
01:14Thank you so much for hanging us here, Melissa, and for the opportunity to talk about teachers.
01:20I think fundamentally the idea of the Malaysia Teacher Prize is it goes by our motto.
01:26We believe that when you empower teachers, you empower them to change the nation.
01:31And we go by this tagline, it's called the power of a teacher, the potential of a nation.
01:36Because we believe that whatever change that we wish to see happen in our country, in our society, in our education system,
01:43for whatever it is, even for the future, it needs to start in the classroom.
01:48I had that opportunity, I think a few years ago, when I was named the top 10 finalist of the Global Teacher Prize.
01:55And I saw that when you uplift the voices of teachers, when you platform what they are doing within classrooms
02:02and within the communities, you inspire change.
02:06Not just within the teaching fraternity, but in the entire country.
02:10I remember very vividly when I was named the top 10, I had everybody in Malaysia coming together
02:16to support a teacher who was teaching in a orang asli school, and everybody was behind me.
02:22So I thought to myself, why don't we bring this idea to Malaysia?
02:26What if we provided that platform for teachers to lead changes within the country as well?
02:32Stats and data and evidence also supports this idea.
02:35Recent data shows that the higher the perception of teachers within a society, the better the student outcome.
02:43So that is the philosophy of the Malaysia Teacher Prize.
02:46To platform the voices of teachers, to put them into a position of leadership
02:50where what they are doing and their voices can inspire change within the country.
02:54But fundamentally is to show that every teacher out there in Malaysia is doing their best
03:00to contribute to every child in their classroom.
03:03Okay, so Cikgu Azri, congratulations on becoming the top 10 finalist.
03:09Tell us what being shortlisted means to you.
03:11I mean, beyond just being the prize, but it's about the recognition, right?
03:16The recognition of your work, your effort, your dedication.
03:19Yeah.
03:20Okay, thank you.
03:22Memang, satu, Malaysia Teacher Prize ni, satu penghargaan kepada guru
03:27di mana suara-suara guru jelas dapat dikeluarkan, isi hati guru-guru.
03:32Sebenarnya, ramai guru-guru di luar sana yang mempunyai sepangat
03:35dalam memimpin satu-satu bentuk, bentuk pembelajaran ni.
03:41Dengan adanya Malaysia Teacher Prize ni, suara guru dapat didengar,
03:45dapat diluahkan, dapat diketengahkan dengan lebih-legi.
03:51Sebab Malaysia Teacher Prize ni is not just the award, kan?
03:55Dia bukan sahaja pengkhitirafan.
03:56There's also a summit, right?
03:57There is a summit.
03:58Okay, okay.
03:59So the Malaysia Teacher Prize, so we are not just platforming these teachers
04:02and just naming them now.
04:03And money.
04:04Yeah, it's RM50,000.
04:06So the winner of the Malaysia Teacher Prize takes away RM50,000.
04:09Amazing.
04:09And the idea is to give the winner the autonomy to do whatever they want.
04:14Oh, wow.
04:15I was inspired when I heard the Global Teacher Prize founders say this.
04:19So in the global stage, they give the teachers a million US dollars.
04:23And he personally told me that,
04:25Sam, if you wanted to use the million US dollars to buy a Bugatti, go ahead.
04:29But we know you won't.
04:30Because fundamentally, when you believe in what a teacher does,
04:34they would do it for the right things and it reaches for the students.
04:36So we are empowering them, giving them the platform and the money as well.
04:39But fundamentally, through the summit,
04:42the Malaysia Teacher Prize Summit is something that we organise every two years.
04:45This year, I think it's our biggest ever.
04:48We are trying to create a space where we have individuals from different walks of life.
04:53It's open to the public.
04:54You can attend.
04:55It's happening on this weekend on the 8th and on the 9th of November.
04:59Bringing people from policy makers through practitioners to civil society organizations.
05:05Everybody coming together.
05:07Hence, the theme of the summit this year is,
05:09Selangkah Bersama Mencorak Masa Depan.
05:12Because we are trying to platform this idea that for whatever change that we want in our country,
05:17it's something that we can only achieve if we all play our part.
05:20And if we all do something about it.
05:22Which is why untuk mendengar suara-suara guru as Cikgu Azri cakap tadi.
05:27So, Sam,
05:29I have a feeling Cikgu Azri is probably far too modest to talk about why all his achievements
05:38to become a shortlist top 10.
05:41So, maybe you can tell us about Cikgu Azri's work and his impact.
05:46What has made him so special in the eyes of the Malaysia Teacher Press?
05:50I think Cikgu Azri, when I first heard his story, I related to it personally as well.
05:56I loved the music when I was growing up.
05:58But I never had the opportunity to pursue it seriously.
06:02I didn't have professional teachers.
06:03My parents and my family couldn't afford to send me to a music school and all of that.
06:07And that's what he stands for.
06:09So, what he believes, he truly believes in that
06:11access to high quality teaching and to learn music
06:15should be readily available for anyone who wants to pursue it.
06:19And not just reserved for those who can afford it.
06:22And he's also platforming the idea of appreciation towards local music.
06:29Gamelan in particular.
06:31He does that.
06:32He also has an app of how you can learn how to play Gamelan on the app.
06:36But me, perhaps you want to tell us a bit more about the app.
06:39Maybe Cikgu, maybe Cikgu boleh cerita.
06:40So, what I understand from just looking you up, researching you.
06:45Sekarang, so dulu Cikgu hanya ada empat pelajar yang nak ambil music for SPM.
06:51Sekarang dah 27 orang.
06:53Okay, so tell us about your work, Cikgu.
06:55Okay, music untuk SPM, dia perlukan kemahiran bermain muzik.
06:59Pelajar lebih confidence bila kita dah develop pelajar daripada tingkatan satu.
07:04Belajar bermain instrument sampai hingga berani dan dia orang sanggup nak ambil SPM untuk dia punya further, dia punya dalam career dan muzik.
07:12Kadang-kadang ada juga yang ambil muzik untuk membuktikan yang dia boleh dapat A dalam satu lagi subjek lain selain daripada akademik subjek.
07:20So, apa yang Cikgu rasa berubah for the students?
07:24What has changed yang membuatkan mereka tertarik nak belajar muzik dengan Cikgu?
07:29Okay, first, sebab kita sediakan platform atau ruang.
07:34Kita sediakan ruang kepada pelajar, kita tak estimate pelajar.
07:37Mesti pelajar tertentu saja boleh ambil muzik.
07:39So, pelajar yang punya iminat dan sanggup ikut kita punya struktur kurikulum akan boleh achieve pelajaran itu.
07:48Dia belajar, lepas itu kita beri peluang, kita gunakan instrumen apa yang ada di sekolah.
07:53Kita bagi ada, setiap pelajar ada major instrumen.
07:55So, macam saya, setiap pelajar di setiap tingkatan saya ada assemble ataupun mini orkestra di dalam kelas.
08:03So, dia ada major instrumen masing-masing.
08:06Dia akan belajar selama tiga tahun.
08:08Selepas tingkatan tiga, dia akan purchase untuk ambil SPM.
08:12Sebab dia dah confident bermain alat muzik.
08:14So, I heard that subjek muzik SPM level agak susah.
08:19Is that true? Is that a hard paper?
08:21Sebenarnya, susah kalau pelajar tak menguasai permainan alat muzik.
08:27Sebab permainan alat muzik ni, dia kena gain daripada awal, daripada form 1.
08:32Dia kena menguasai permainan alat muzik, dia kena menguasai teori muzik.
08:36So, kedua-dua ni kena kuasai untuk membaca skor muzik.
08:41So, satu kemahiran yang agak macam membaca juga.
08:44And cikgu punya studio, your pelajar-pelajar had no musical background.
08:49Tak ada background dalam muzik.
08:51Memang datang and memang tak tahu about muzik at all.
08:54Tak, macam sekolah pertama saya posting adalah sekolah luar bandar.
08:57Mana sekolah luar bandar tu, banyakkan pelajar minat muzik tapi tak pernah belajar muzik.
09:02Selalunya muzik ni selalu orang fikir dia satu yang eksklusif hanya golongan tertentu saja untuk pelajar.
09:07Golongan elit mungkin.
09:08Ya, nak belajar dia pun memerlukan kos yang tinggi.
09:11Tapi kita sebagai guru, kita berada di sekolah.
09:14Kita yang cari inisiatif untuk beri peluang kepada pelajar untuk merasai pengalaman muzikal.
09:20And maybe cikgu boleh ceritakan sikit mengenai the Malay Gamilan Digital App yang cikgu develop kan?
09:26Okay, tell us about that.
09:27Okay.
09:29Satu aplikasi yang saya develop disebabkan gamilan ni bukanlah satu alat muzik yang boleh dapat macam piano, keyboard di mana-mana kan.
09:37So, ditambah pula dengan generasi sekarang dipanggil digital native di mana lahir dengan hidup dengan benda perhatian digital.
09:46So, pelajar sekarang pun kurang tertarik dengan alat muzik tradisional.
09:51Melalui apps ni, pelajar boleh belajar alat muzik yang macam susah nak bawa dan mahal boleh belajar dalam iPad.
09:59So, dalam environment iPad tu, pelajar boleh explore sounds, how to play gamilan dalam apps.
10:07Only dalam apps.
10:08So, cikgu Azri yang develop this app ke?
10:11You saw that there was a gap that other students yang mungkin tak ada access to learn muzik, to learn gamilan.
10:19So, you developed an app for it.
10:21Yeah, saya develop apps tu sebab saya ada peluang semasa saya mendapat beasiswa, saya cuti, saya explore coding untuk create apps.
10:31That is amazing.
10:32And I'm sure cikgu Azri's story is just one of many, one of many of how teachers are innovating in classrooms.
10:41Tell us more about the ability of teachers to innovate.
10:45Because sometimes there's the perception that maybe teachers are constrained by syllabus, by curriculum, by time and the workload and the administrative version.
10:56Talk to me about the importance of empowering teachers to be able to innovate in the classroom.
11:00I think we have seen for four years of doing this, even not just for the individuals that make it to the finalists.
11:09We do not have, in Malaysia, I think we have in abundance, teachers who go above and beyond for their students.
11:16Cikgu Azri's story, we've got the other finalists, some of them are in special education, some of them are in STEM fields,
11:23some of them teach art, some of them teach languages.
11:25But each and every one of them has a core story of how they went above and beyond.
11:31And when we speak about empowerment, I think we really need to consider that for individuals who actually choose to be teachers,
11:37you're already halfway there.
11:38Because they fundamentally choose the profession as something that they love to do.
11:42We all know it's not the best-paying profession out there.
11:46At times, it's always in the spotlight, not for the good reasons.
11:49When things go wrong, immediately people point this towards teachers.
11:54But we are trying to show the public the narrative that we've got in abundance, teachers who are willing to go forward.
12:00And when we speak about support, I think in Permimpin over the past eight years,
12:05we have worked on the idea of providing professional development for teachers,
12:09training them, building them to see how they can come up with localized and contextualized solutions
12:15that may suit their students and their community members as well.
12:21And we have been actively working together with the Ministry of Education to scale our initiative throughout Malaysia
12:25to see how we can support more teachers so that they can fulfill what they want to do together with their students
12:32and also contribute the best they can.
12:34Because ultimately, I think for whatever policy changes that we have in the country,
12:40the ones at the front lines are the teachers.
12:42And if we have teachers like Encik Gu Azri and all the other finalists up there,
12:45I think we've stand a good chance in providing our best for our students.
12:48Encik Gu Azri, do you think that your colleagues, other guru-guru lain,
12:54do they feel empowered to try something new?
12:59What would you say?
13:00Apa kecabaran yang Encik Gu or guru-guru menghadapi when they want to try something new?
13:06Nak mencuba sesuatu yang baru, sesuatu yang inovatif, sesuatu yang kreatif in the classroom?
13:10Adakah cabaran?
13:12Cabaran dia yang pertama, macam mana nak solve problem dengan inovation.
13:17So, dia kena learn something, kena berkorban macam-macam dari segi masa,
13:20dari segi kewangan, dari segi idea kreativiti.
13:24So, itu cabaran yang besar lah untuk guru come out dengan satu benda yang inovation untuk belajar.
13:31Termasuk lagi untuk melihat keberkesanan inovasi itu, itu pun satu cabaran juga.
13:35Okay, tak tengok what the effect is, what the impact is kan?
13:39Sebab kadang-kadang it takes a long time to see the impact, right?
13:42So, I understand that you will be hosting a best classroom workshop tomorrow.
13:50Tell me about that.
13:51Okay, untuk kelas esok, saya menyediakan satu platform pembelajaran, satu sampel platform pembelajaran muzik
13:59macam mana nak merasa berada di kelas muzik, di mana pelajar akan belajar bermain alat gamilan
14:05dengan pelajar yang ramai tapi alat gamilan itu ada lapan alat.
14:09Macam mana kita nak integrate teknologi dalam kelas itu untuk supaya pelajar yang tak terlibat
14:14untuk bermain gamilan boleh explore gamilan dengan iPad dulu.
14:16So, selepas itu kita akan change, tukar gilir-gilir.
14:20So, gamilan itu ada lapan instrumen.
14:23So, memang kalau untuk 20 orang lebih pelajar, kita kena guna teknologi untuk solve problem itu.
14:28Bagi pelajar, try dekat iPad.
14:31Lepas itu kita buat penggiliran, pelajar yang daripada iPad boleh main actual gamilan.
14:35Cikgu, when you talked about nak nampak keberkesanan of your innovation, of your ideas itu, memang mungkin ambil masa yang lama.
14:44Beyond just the results of the subject muzik, ada tak cikgu nampak impact kepada pelajar-pelajar?
14:51Does it change anything about that?
14:54Mungkin dari segi keyakinan diri ke?
14:56Atau, you know, nak semangat, nak datang ke, motivasi nak datang ke sekolah ke masuk kelas ke?
15:01Okay, betul. Aktiviti muzik ini, impact dia tak nampak dari segi pembelajaran muzik itu, tapi impact dia daripada aktiviti sendiri.
15:10Macam contoh, disiplin. Macam mana pelajar meningkatkan disiplin di mana pelajar nak join aktiviti itu perlu ada disiplin.
15:17Perlu datang latihan tepat waktu, perlu datang masa awal untuk resell, untuk performing.
15:23Disiplin kan? Betul, betul. You're right.
15:24Kalau travel, pelajar perlu ada disiplin untuk bersiap awal sebab deal dengan, contoh, deal dengan kapal terbang.
15:32Travel?
15:33Ya, travel. Pelajar macam di sekolah saya ada travel ke Jakarta untuk matching band.
15:38Oh, masuk pertandingan?
15:39Ya, pertandingan.
15:40So, memang deal dengan kapal terbang, deal dengan bas, memang deal dengan masa.
15:46So, di situ memang kena perlu terapkan disiplin.
15:49Lepas tu ada sifat kepimpinan di situ di mana pelajar yang senior akan handle engineer.
15:54Sebab pelajar melibatkan pelajar yang ramai, hanya mengharapkan guru je tak mampu guru sebagai monitor, monitor proses perjalanan tu.
16:01Amazing. So, dari umur yang muda dah belajar macam nak travel internasional, that's fantastic.
16:08Handle instrument lagi.
16:10Sam, pemimpin, essentially works with school leaders, right?
16:13Right.
16:13To ensure that they empower innovative teachers like Cikgu Azri.
16:18Talk to me a little bit about what you would like to see school leaders do to enable teachers like Cikgu Azri.
16:25And I'm sure there are hundreds and thousands of them out there.
16:29So, when we started for Mimpin, we primarily focused on school leaders.
16:33But over the years, I think we have evolved our theory of change into looking at how each and every teacher at different levels have that potential to lead as well.
16:43We see the Malaysia Teacher Prize finalists as teachers who have that capacity to lead systemic changes.
16:51We see the school leaders that we work with on our fellowship programs for them to lead school and community improvements.
16:57We look at the teacher leaders that we work with and we train them for a year to see how they can come up with solutions for their classroom and lead there as well.
17:06The way that we are viewing the entire profession itself comes from that idea of leadership.
17:12And change can only happen when you lead well within the classroom, you lead well within the schools, and you lead well within the systems, and you get everybody coming together.
17:21That's what we are pushing for as well.
17:23This year, we have two finalists who are school leaders themselves.
17:28Oh, wow.
17:28Yes.
17:29As finalists of the Malaysia Teacher Prize.
17:31So, we saw that whatever that they are doing to improve the schools, how they are empowering different teachers as well, is an example to other school leaders out there that your act of teaching is not solely about teaching a subject, but the act of teaching is also leading your peers and leading everybody within the school and the community.
17:50Oh, I have goosebumps about that.
17:52That's wonderful because I thought it was only for teachers in the classroom, but it's actually all school.
17:59Every teacher.
18:00Yeah, every education as well.
18:01Yeah, wonderful.
18:03So, speaking about education, I wanted to talk about the current narrative now.
18:07I mean, there's so much being said about STEM and AI, kan?
18:11So, kita banyak cakap pasal STEM, pasal AI, and because Cikgu Azri is Cikgu Music, do you think that arts are being sidelined?
18:19Do you think kita ni macam, kita rasa macam bidang seni ni dipinggirkan sikit?
18:25Adakah rasa macam tu?
18:25Adakah kita abaikan bidang seni ni?
18:28Kalau saya nampak macam kerajaan buka peluang kepada kita, sebagai leader, kita kena cari inisiatif untuk, sebab macam contoh subjek muzik, ada sampai peringkat SPM.
18:40Kita sebagai guru kita yang, walaupun di subjek elektif, kita yang cuba mematabatkan subjek perkenaan.
18:47Kita buat kelas, kita buat latihan, inisiatif kita.
18:51Sebenarnya peluang tu ada.
18:52Kita perlukan perkasaan, dia adalah berdasarkan, based on kita lah.
18:57Ada tak parents yang maybe tak confident kalau anak dia ambil paper elektif muzik ni?
19:05Macam tak ada benda lain ke?
19:06Dia kata, nanti nak graduate, nak kerja apa kan?
19:09Okay.
19:11Oh, okay.
19:13Macam pelajar saya yang di sekolah, tak semuanya yang ambil subjek muzik tu akan jadi pemuzik.
19:19Tapi apply muzik tu dalam life dia.
19:21Macam tadi, kita bincang tadi tentang disiplin, kepimpinan.
19:26Macam contoh, pelajar saya banyak yang pergi purchase dalam bidang sains,
19:30tapi masa dimetrikulasi tu, diorang lah yang lead semua aktiviti di sekolah sebab ada sifat kepimpinan.
19:37Lepas tu, lead persembahan, walaupun bukan major muzik.
19:41So, benefit muzik tu bukanlah hal semata-mata untuk purchase jadi guru muzik atau performance,
19:46tapi dalam life.
19:47Okay.
19:48So, kalau Cikgu Azri menang the Malaysia Future Prize,
19:52what would you do with the RM50,000?
19:56Okay.
19:56So, saya nak menggunakan duit tu untuk develop saya punya banyak assemble di sekolah saya,
20:05contoh, assemble dalam marching band, traditional music, skombo.
20:09So, they're all good to need more new instruments,
20:14kena ada maintenance instruments.
20:17So, bantulah kewangan ni.
20:19We forget that, you know, schools are under such tight budgets, right?
20:23There's so much financial constraints.
20:26So, innovative teachers really have to work within with what they have.
20:31So, it's wonderful that this prize money is given to them.
20:34So, when we started this prize, it's also to provide the networks for these teachers
20:41so that they can also come up with a sustainable form of funding
20:47by partnering with different organisations.
20:49I think over the past few years, we've had finalists who partnered with different foundations
20:54in Malaysia as well directly, so they get supported directly as well.
20:58So, yeah, I think the prize is a mixture of a lot of things.
21:01It's the leadership part of it.
21:03It's platforming these teachers but also putting them in the spotlight
21:06and letting everybody know, hey, if you want a good cause to contribute to,
21:10here's someone you can trust.
21:11Here's someone who's doing great work in whatever they're doing.
21:13And the school and the teacher especially would need the support.
21:17And we have mediated a lot of these transactions over the years.
21:21Yeah, that's absolutely what is needed, right?
21:23You need someone to matchmake or at least introduce and connect the two sides.
21:29Okay, so in the time that we have left, I want to ask the both of you to the teachers,
21:35the educators who are watching today who may be struggling to feel motivated
21:41or they feel like their work is not being seen.
21:46It is tough time.
21:48So, what would the both of you say?
21:50What nasihat cikgu, can I ask nasihat cikgu pada guru-guru yang muda mungkin
21:54yang rasa kurang semangat ke atau rasa macam tak dihargai?
21:57Okay, what advice do you have cikgu?
21:59Okay, kalau untuk saya sebab music is my passion.
22:04Sebab itu bergantung pada niat kita lah.
22:06Kita memang macam saya, saya suka tengok pelajar perform.
22:09Saya tengok pelajar daripada zero to hero.
22:13Belajar muzik daripada kita tengok daripada tak tahu apa-apa
22:16sampai ada develop sesuatu.
22:18Bagi saya itu satu kepuasan.
22:20So, untuk cikgu-cikgu, mungkin dia kena cari kepuasan lebih kurang macam itulah.
22:25Sam?
22:26So, for me, I think, since I said that teaching is an act of leadership,
22:32I think one of the hardest things for any leader to do is to listen.
22:37And the things that I've learned from my teachers,
22:40through Pemimpin and also in my time at school,
22:42it's always beneficial that if you're facing a hard time,
22:45put things aside, listen to the kids.
22:47Talk to them, try to figure out something.
22:50And it's not to figure out something for them.
22:52It's to figure out something with them.
22:54I think listening and developing that sense of ownership
22:57is very important for every teacher.
23:00Because I think sometimes when it comes to personalised about one particular individual
23:04altogether, you either take it too hard on yourself when things don't go well
23:09or when things go really, really well, it gets above your head very quickly
23:13and you forget why you're doing it in the first place.
23:16So, if you're feeling lost, cikgu-cikgu yang rasa hilang,
23:19yang rasa tidak dihargai dan sebagainya,
23:21go back to the kids.
23:22That's why you're in the profession in the first place.
23:24Listen to them, speak to them and they will always inspire you.
23:26Before we end, I do want to ask another, maybe your concluding message.
23:31You started the conversation by saying that sometimes the teaching profession
23:35is not valid because they get blamed for everything when things go wrong
23:39when it comes to headlines, right?
23:41And it's been a tough couple of months for the profession itself.
23:47There's some negative news around it.
23:51What would you like people to understand about the profession?
23:54When the first thing people do often is blame teachers,
23:58blame the schools, blame their education system.
24:01Which is something you would like us to consider tonight
24:03about from someone who's standing from this side of the court,
24:09if I may say.
24:10So, Cikgu Hazri, ada tak apa-apa mungkin message kepada penonton malam ni?
24:14Okay.
24:15Kepada penonton ke kepada Cikgu?
24:17Tidak, sah-sah, sah-sah.
24:18Even parents yang mungkin cepat nak blame Cikgu
24:24cepat nak marah kepada sekolah.
24:27Untuk saya lah, sebenarnya dunia pendidikan ni
24:30dia satu benda yang kompleks.
24:32Dia bukannya hanya berharap pada guru sahaja.
24:34Kalau kita tengok, kita perlu kerjasama.
24:36Macam contoh, macam parents perlu bekerjasama dengan guru.
24:40Guru pun perlu bekerjasama dengan parents.
24:42Kadang-kadang, macam kita tengok di luar negara,
24:44ada juga parents yang datang ke sekolah.
24:47Contoh untuk anak yang special kan.
24:49Datang membantu guru, tengok guru punya PNP.
24:52Dan balik, terapkan balik benda apa yang Cikgu buat di sekolah,
24:56terapkan kepada anak-anak di rumah.
24:58So, situ ada satu jalinan kerjasama.
25:01Macam saya sendiri, dalam aktiviti muzik,
25:03saya tak mampu juga untuk handle semua.
25:05Saya dapat bantuan daripada,
25:08contoh macam ragam,
25:09di sekolah saya, saya dapat bantuan daripada
25:10satu kumpulan ibu apa,
25:13dia panggil Susband Parent Club.
25:14Okay, Susband Parent Club ni,
25:16dia banyak membantu menyokong
25:17perjalanan pancar agam sekolah saya.
25:21So, di situ ada kerjasama antara guru dengan parents.
25:24Sangat membantu.
25:25Okay, so ada macam collaboration.
25:28Ya, ada collaboration.
25:29Selalu ada gathering,
25:30ada majlis bersama,
25:32ada perbincangan bersama.
25:34Selalu ada meeting bersama.
25:35So, that way parents feel part of the school
25:37and teachers feel part of the same team.
25:39Kita semua untuk anak-anak,
25:41untuk bepelajar.
25:43Sam?
25:43I think it's always easier
25:45to point fingers.
25:47But I would just like to remind everyone
25:49that each and every teacher,
25:50of all the teachers that I've met
25:51throughout my career
25:52in the work that I'm doing,
25:54each and every one of them
25:55put their heart into what they're doing.
25:57And I think like what he mentioned earlier on,
25:59I think there needs to be more engagement.
26:02There needs to be more open conversations
26:03about what we can do together
26:05and what we can achieve together.
26:06And I think back to the summit,
26:08that's what we try to achieve as well.
26:10I think to provide that space
26:11that we are comfortable
26:12to be critical about things.
26:14I think I'm not saying that we should
26:16sweet things under the carpet
26:17or not highlight issues,
26:18but we need to approach it together.
26:21And not from the point that
26:22it's somebody else's fault
26:23and not mine,
26:23but how can we solve this issue together?
26:26Because ultimately,
26:27as cliche as the saying goes,
26:29it's about how we can all play a part.
26:32The more we start seeing each other
26:34as on opposite sides,
26:36the more things will not work out for us.
26:38And I think parents have a huge role to play.
26:41In fact, I think in recent data
26:44showing that Malaysia within the region,
26:46one of the areas that we need to improve on
26:48besides our mats and sides and all of that,
26:51is actually we have one of the lowest
26:52parental engagement within the region.
26:54So it takes both sides.
26:58Our parents actually coaching their kids at home.
27:02Parents actually actively communicating
27:04with their teachers,
27:05asking them, talking to them.
27:07I think it takes both sides
27:09to want to do it together.
27:11And I hope that the summit
27:12is one of those places
27:13that we can try to promote these ideas.
27:15But ultimately, I think as a country,
27:17we need to have that perspective.
27:19I think from that point,
27:20whatever challenges that we face
27:22is something that we look at it
27:23from a more optimistic point of view
27:25rather than this is doomed
27:27and we need to scrap everything, etc.
27:30Both of you, thank you so much
27:32for being on the show.
27:33It's been so inspiring to listen to you.
27:36I'm excited for the summit.
27:37Thank you for your time.
27:39All the best, Yigwazri.
27:40I hope you win.
27:42And do come for the gamelan session.
27:45That's all the time we have for you
27:46on this episode of Consider This.
27:48I'm Melissa Idris,
27:49signing off for the evening.
27:50Thank you so much for watching
27:51and good night.
27:52Good night.
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