00:00Hi, welcome back to Consider This. I'm Melissa Idris. Let's continue our discussion about the
00:16rise of teacher influencers or edufluencers, educators who create content for social media.
00:24Joining me on the show now is Mohamed Nazmi Rosli, who is the Senior Assistant of Student Affairs at
00:31Sekolah Kebangsaan Lungsabangan in Lawas, Sarawak. Cikgu Nazmi was the winner of the 2023 Malaysia
00:37Teacher Prize and he was also shortlisted as one of the 10 finalists for the 2025 Global Teacher Prize.
00:46So Cikgu Nazmi, thank you so much for being on the show with me today. What do you think about
00:49teachers who create a content for educational content for social media? Can you share a bit
00:55about how you've used social media to enhance the learning experience for your students?
01:02All right, thank you, Malaysia. So I use social media as a bridge between the classroom
01:08and the real world. Through a platform like Facebook, IG and TikTok, I showcase student projects
01:14such as my Philippine Club short films, allowing them to share their work with global audience.
01:22I also use social media to gamify learning where students complete challenges and track with digital
01:29content and even get feedback from industry professionals. For example, when we created an anti-corruption film,
01:39social media allows students to engage with real anti-corruption officers. It gives students a sense of
01:49purpose and audience beyond just the teachers. Okay, so educational content on social media, does it actually
01:58help students learn? Because I'm just wondering, because students, they may enjoy social media content,
02:03right? But it doesn't mean that they're retaining that information. So what is the biggest advantage of
02:10teachers using social media for education? So for me, yes, educational content on social media did actually
02:19help students to learn. But only when used strategically. Social media provides bite-sized, engaging and interactive
02:30learning experiences that cater to modern students. The biggest advantage is that it helps student
02:38connect learning to real life application. For example, when we turn our class into a simulated laundromat,
02:46students met social media posts about business ethics, reinforcing lesson in a way that it felt practical, not for not only for me
02:57and the student, but they're also going to bring this at home. They're telling why this is important for the parents.
03:05Also, students who are very shy in classroom, sometimes they're a bit more comfortable interacting online,
03:13helping them get confident and expressing their ideas.
03:17So, Cik Nasmi, do your other teachers as well use social media the way you use social media? Do you see
03:23that happening more and more amongst your fellow teachers? Yes. There's a lot of program that helping
03:33teachers this day compared to what we have back then. To be a Google certified educators, to be Apple
03:40certified educators and more and more my newer staff, my senior staff who are happy to join all this kind of
03:48program. They're giving a lot of good advantage and giving them a chance to upgrade their pedagogical
03:57skill in the class. So, yeah, it's good to see this happening among my friend, my colleague and all the
04:04teachers across my district. Yeah. Where do they learn the skills? I mean, I'm just wondering if this is
04:11really a great tool for helping teaching and learning. Do you think that we should do more to help give
04:21the right skills for teachers to learn to become digital, to create digital content? So, actually, our
04:31Ministry of Education has been working on this for almost 10 years. They've been providing a lot of good
04:40courses for courses for teachers. They are giving training for Delima. They're giving training on
04:47teachers on how to make a good video editing skill, on how to produce content on social media. They're
04:56giving guidelines, clear guidelines for us on what to do and what not to do in social media. Right now,
05:03every school, we will encourage to create our own TV PSS. It's a club where students can create their own
05:12content and show it through their school official Facebook. So, it's like the kids are going to be
05:20a journalist. They're going to shoot. They're going to go to a scene. For example, recently, we have
05:25Bazaar Ramadan. So, my student and his crew are going to the Bazaar Ramadan. They wrote a script for it and
05:31then, one of them is going to shoot the scene and one of them is talking about it. They're going out
05:38interviewing people and all. And then, we teachers, we teach the kids how to edit and everything,
05:44share it in our social media. So, this thing was encouraged even by our district officers, even in
05:54Jabatan Pendidikan Negeri. And even a lot of competition that welcoming us to come out with
06:01all these kind of ideas. I remember coming back from Dubai after the Global Teacher Prize, a lot of
06:07schools, students want to interview me. So, I have to arrange my schedule on them. So, they learn how to
06:13make a good scheduling. They learn how to talk with, you know, people. They're meeting YBs. They're meeting
06:20all these kind of officers. So, they learn how to talk proper and well. They learn to be confident.
06:29They even learn how to do background checking. Oh, today, I'm going to make this icon. This is what I
06:35have to do. You know, seeing my kids doing all that is so great, you know. So, what we have
06:44in the educational scene in Malaysia is that we want all this not only for the teachers, but also
06:51everyone in the school, the students especially. So, yeah, I'm glad this is happening.
06:56The teachers can support the children using social media as a positive and confidence-building
07:02platform. But I can imagine that creating and managing social media content would be quite time-consuming.
07:11How do you manage that with your teaching workload? Because teachers already have
07:15so much. Their workload is already so heavy. Does it ever feel like it's just
07:21more and more and too much sometimes with the new skills that have come onto the scene now?
07:27So, I think when we talk about workload, it's like a more subjective question, you know.
07:38So, for me, when you love doing things that you love to do, you sometimes don't put that as a workload.
07:46So, you know. Our teachers this day, they willingly spend time on social media.
07:56And they already have this all kind of knowledge. They know how to use video editing. They know how to
08:02use shoots and record things. They have better gadgets than us, you know. So, most of them are willing to
08:11participate. Our admin won't force anyone to do it. But we are well-organized and we are well-guided to
08:22do it. And we are very well-motivated to do it. Our students, our teachers willing to spend a lot of
08:30money on doing it. They don't, they're not worrying going extra for this, buying. I have, there's a
08:38teacher who have this one camera that, that worth like 50k just to help the school, you know, with
08:45their own money. So, so I believe, yeah. Yeah, of course, it's a bit time consuming, but we do it
08:53together. Right. So, so what advice do you have to ask me for teachers who are interested and want to try
09:00but are new to creating social media content for educational purposes? Number one, start small.
09:06Don't feel pressured to go viral. Begin with simple content like posting class updates or short
09:12explainer videos. Number two, keep it authentic. Student engage more when they see real teaching
09:20moments, not over produce content. Number three, prioritize student safety. Always get concerned
09:29and be mindful of what's being shared. And then, um, I think last one for me, engage,
09:35don't just broadcast. Reply to student comments, ask questions, and make learning a two-way conversation.
09:43Wonderful. Cikgu Nazmi, thank you so much for your time and your advice and insights. I appreciate that.
09:50As, uh, Muhammad Nazmi Rosli from, uh, Sekolah Kebangsaan Lawas Sarawak wrapping up this episode of
09:57Consider This. I'm Melissa Idris signing off for the evening. Thank you so much for watching
10:03and good night.
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