House Hunters International Season 204 Episode 9

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00:00Oh, my God, not like anything you'd see in Phoenix after 25 years in America

00:06Salvatore's mother's dying wish was for him to return to his native Italy. Let's make Rita proud

00:12So he and his partner David are leaving everything in Phoenix to start an agro turismo business in the Italian countryside

00:19We're taking this huge chance

00:21Maybe we can get into the olive oil business, but you don't know anything about olive oil. Don't be so negative

00:27I'm just being realistic. Salvatore and I are both very opinionated, but you may turn heated

00:32You want to spend spend spend spend money. You don't think about the consequences

00:38Any second thoughts

00:50I was born in Oklahoma grew up around farmland

00:54I had a very good childhood, but the little country town just didn't fit my personality

00:59So I moved to the big city Phoenix, Arizona, and I just absolutely loved it there

01:03I am the chief of staff for a local mayor. I grew up in Italy in Naples

01:10But I always had this desire to go to America and I moved to Arizona in the 90s

01:16Sabatore was in banking. We've been together for 25 years now, and this is Pippin and Peanut

01:23We were just gonna get one, but they were so adorable

01:27Peanut

01:28We had a wonderful time in Phoenix. We had a nice garden

01:32But the hustle and bustle was quite wearing

01:34Then I had to go back to Italy to take care of my mom

01:38Her wish before she passed was to promise her that I would never go back to America

01:44So once my mom was gone, I had to convince David to move to Italy

01:50The hardest part was for him to give up his career

01:54It was a pretty hard decision, but I was happy to make the move to Italy because I love Salvatore

01:59Salvatore and the fact that we haven't been so long together. He had no other choice to move with me

02:05So he made it happen. This is really cool. Yeah

02:09Salvatore is from Napoli, but we didn't want to move into another big city

02:13We were scrolling the internet and we saw Poggio Bustone. It looked absolutely gorgeous

02:19It's in Lazio right in the center of the country

02:23So we're about an hour and a half from Rome and when we first arrived here

02:27We fall in love with the countryside and the hospitality of the people

02:31Honorati di avervi qui

02:33St. Francis founded a monastery here in the 13th century

02:36So there's a religious pilgrimage of people that come through here each year

02:39This is a fresco from 1600. It's beautiful

02:43The main reason we're looking here. There is a lot of opportunity

02:47We're gonna try our hand in the agriturismo business

02:51Agriturismo is having a combined hospitality business which also offers some products that are made

02:57in the land so it could be olive oil could be you're making cheese or wine

03:00But it's a big business in Italy

03:02We had a rental portfolio in phoenix and we sold all of those properties to give us startup capital

03:09I have a green thumb but we're kind of going into this blind and giving up our careers to move to this unknown village

03:16It's scary, but that adds to the excitement

03:20Poggio Bustone is a bit undiscovered

03:22You can get a lot more bang for your buck

03:23Oh, he's cute. It must be david bigger houses more land for less money

03:27Hey

03:28Hi

03:29You're sow?

03:30No, i'm david

03:31Ah, okay

03:32The style of the house is gonna be the major point of contention between the two of us

03:37One thing that we do agree on we want a good view and we want land

03:41So we can generate income at least five bedrooms with ensuite bathrooms

03:46Oh, that's a lot

03:47Well, we would like to also host bed and breakfast

03:49Yeah, we're looking for something furnished and ready to move in

03:54All right

03:54Any other particulars?

03:56Since we're moving to Italy, I would like something with historic features like frescoes

04:01Okay

04:02I would like something more rustic

04:04Perfect, we are in rustic heaven here so that won't be a problem

04:06There are frescoes here in the sanctuary so you can always visit them

04:09But I understand you're looking for something that has character and you feel that's a little different than the rustic farmhouse type thing

04:14Right, so what is your ideal budget no more than 650

04:18That could be easy here. They both know what they want a little problem here is that they seem to want things a little separate

04:23The first option has a ton of business potential but with zero experience in the agro industry

04:29Will they be getting in over their heads has a really nice piece of land it's 10 acres

04:34There's seven bedrooms with six ensuite baths. Oh wow, that's great

04:38I really think there's enough space here for you guys to maybe use it as a b&b

04:42There's also a lot of olive trees. Oh wow, you've got almost a thousand. Whoa, that's a lot of trees. Yeah, you could start your own business

04:50Wow, wow

04:52This is a beautiful property. You don't look at that big

04:55Not at all. That's just one level. Yeah, it goes down to other levels on the hillside. I love it a stone very rustic

05:02I mean, it's a pretty house, but it just doesn't have the wow factor

05:04But I love it a view how much they're asking 650,000. Whoa, that includes 10 acres of land

05:11That's a lot of work, but we could produce olive oil shovel. We never done it before so he's never moved italy before so

05:19Taking care of a thousand trees

05:22That's a little bit overwhelming. Oh, but it's part of the adventure. Yeah, stay positive solid. I'm just being realistic

05:30Wow, I love the front door and arch. Yes, we'll look at the second level later

05:33But here you have a first little living reception room with a antique ornate fireplace

05:38This is pretty. Hey, you can let the boys run free if you want. No worries.

05:41Oh

05:43Hey boys pippin and peanut do fight quite a bit. Yeah, they got from us. You can tell

05:51This is your dining room. I love those beans. Yeah, that's exactly what you were looking for

05:56And let's go look at the kitchen. Yeah. Oh wow all custom-made cabinetry

06:03It's kind of a tiny kitchen though be cramped, but there is space downstairs to make a second kitchen

06:08Here's your million-dollar view. Oh wow

06:13A lot of privacy. This is rush hour right now. Wow. Yeah, you could hear a pin drop. It's so peaceful out here

06:19You could. David seems to be a little more of a dreamer. I love his optimism

06:23No frescoes, but it does have potential. Let's see these bedrooms. It's sometimes hard to read sal. He's the stereotypical hot-headed italian

06:31Whatever. I love david, but financially he doesn't think about the consequences

06:36Here we've got the king's dining room. He already at 650

06:41So we have no money to play with

06:44Salvatore does not make impulse buys. However, I do do things more spontaneously

06:50Sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than permission sign here sign here

06:55This type of property is exactly what we left phoenix to try to find got some spectacular bedrooms

07:00Makes me feel like I'm already home bathroom on suite. Wow

07:05I loved the amount of land

07:07However, Tim's a little small for bed and breakfast. I love it. It's very rustic and the fact that each room has a bathroom would be perfect

07:17But I wear a little bit too much land

07:20Well, the olive trees are already established. I don't think it's gonna be too much work

07:24A thousand trees. It's not a lot of work. I don't have any experience. He doesn't know anything about it. I love it

07:30It would be a challenge. It would be a fun challenge whatever it takes

07:34I'll take a certification and be an expert in olive oil. Mm-hmm. I appreciate Sal's staunch face

07:40The next option is more manageable and way cheaper 450,000. Oh, wow

07:46But it's still missing david's biggest wish. There's no frescoes. Oh, david you're killing me

07:51A typical date in phoenix is just hustle hustle hustle hustle

07:57We were so exhausted however in the united states that busy busy busy is idolized really yeah

08:04And you want to change and I want to change this is exactly what your mother had in mind when she wanted you to stay in italy

08:10Sono andato in america per avventura

08:13Mo trova d'amore e ora lo portato di nuovo in italia dove ci sono le mie origine

08:21Even though i'm not from italy it feels like the homecoming for me too

08:26I'm a boy from the country moving back to my roots just in a different country

08:30So i'm really looking forward to being back in nature being back around farm animals and the rural lifestyle

08:36However coming from a big city like phoenix to a rural community in italy could be a big culture shock

08:44I'm a little bit nervous

08:46But i'm very grateful to have salvatore as a resource and i mean i have a built-in chef which i'm very thankful for

08:54We're both excited about this opportunity

08:57Yeah, we liquidated all of our assets in the united states to make this agriturismo business

09:02We have some cushion financially, but we have no experience. They've kind of made a decision which has no going back

09:09Also, salvatore and i do have differing tastes on architectural styles. They're definitely going to have to make some compromises on their list

09:16I think the frescoes that david wants is not incarnate in a farmhouse

09:20Not that i want you to give it up, but you know just making a point that's a little bit of a taller order

09:24I think sal's main concern is really the money issue correct to put salvatore at ease david's next option is comfortably under budget

09:32And may just have enough historical elements for the other david it's got 10 acres

09:37And it's also a big house because it's eight bedrooms and 12 baths

09:41So it's a little bit but it's an 18th century historic farmhouse and I really think it's worth taking a look at here. Oh, yeah

09:48Beautiful entrance, huh? Yes, it's an 18th century carriage house. So we had stables on the ground floor. Oh look salvatore

09:55There's a pizza oven. That's cool. Did you make pizza? Please i'm napolitan. Okay

10:00This house is 450 000. Oh, wow in addition

10:03You've got 400 olive trees and also many cypress trees. They are beautiful trees

10:08But we are really looking for a view. Well, you have one who's just hidden right behind those

10:11Does it need work possibly? Yes, at least it's well below what we're able to spend

10:17Let's take the original key and go have a look

10:20There's a little marker here look it says 1711 they were just hunting turkeys in the u.s. When this place was born right. Yeah

10:27Very italian style architecture. Yeah plus the olive trees which is good for agro turismo

10:34Yeah, good start. This is the main level. You've got an independent guest room apartment on the ground level

10:39Look at the antique ceilings here in the entrance. Oh, wow very dark in the entryway, but look at the great room

10:46Oh, this is nice. Oh, look at the chandelier. Oh, that's beautiful. How old do you think that is?

10:51Ironworks is probably from italian liberty period so 1880 1900. Oh, okay

10:55And so you have very big room giant fireplace

10:58So you could be relaxing around the fire and playing a game of scopa scopa is an italian card game

11:04I'm trying to teach david. It's really not that hard. It's similar to blackjack. Yeah, nice house for entertaining

11:10Still shame that there is those trees. Look at this dining room. Oh, wow huge. It is nice size beautiful tapestry. Oh, I love that

11:18And we've got your olive groves here in front and in the back. Okay. I love the furniture

11:24All the furniture does stay. Yes. Nice. Oh, look at this old chandelier. It's very golden girls, isn't it? A little bit florida

11:31Nice. Where's the kitchen david? Right on the other side of the entrance. Oh, okay

11:36It's small but fully equipped. This is tiny very small. We like to say cozy. Could you cook comfortably?

11:43Not really we're pretty disappointed in the kitchen really only one person could fit in that kitchen at a time

11:50And we want to entertain and host a bed and breakfast. This is a nice little private sitting room another beautiful tapestry. Yeah

11:57It's lovely. Yeah. Yeah. Follow me down the hallway of secrets

12:01There are some historic features, but there's no frescoes in this casale

12:06And it's pretty dark. This one is one of my favorites. Look at the furniture

12:10Beautiful set in the bed the en moi got an ensuite bath a nice big ensuite bathroom

12:16I like these the furniture in this bedroom wows me and we still got another one to see here

12:22Nice sized bedroom. It is isn't it here up in the old attic space. It's all been converted into bedrooms

12:28Almost all of them on suite very rustic but dork. Yeah. Oh

12:33Okay. Oh, this is beautiful minus the two trees in front. Yeah

12:37It's kind of sad to remove those trees, but I think that we could sacrifice four or five to gain a view

12:43Now that we've seen everything in the house, what's your impression of it, huh? Beautiful property

12:48It's huge aside from the kitchen in terms of business. It's just bedroom after bedroom after bedroom

12:54So it could be a bed and breakfast. Yeah, and you've got your olives outside as well 400 of them. What do you think?

12:59Salvatore I love it. There's a lot of potential plus the price we give us a lot of room to play with

13:05Yeah, because it's not really turnkey at all. That's a big drawback for us

13:11We don't want to fixer-upper. I understand perfectly. Yeah, obviously there isn't a home depot

13:16But 450 I don't want to say it's nothing but if it wasn't tuscany it would be one and a half million

13:20David i'm still waiting on you to show us some frescoes the rustic farmhouse with frescoes

13:25That's pretty much impossible

13:27To get david his dream home agent david has to farm it out. How are you?

13:33This is like a dream come true, but it's only on half an acre. Mm-hmm

13:38So the lifestyle in italy is much different than the united states

13:43The culture is surrounded around community family conversation and food

13:50Un po' di burro e il tartufo chiaramente

13:53Food is very big a part of our life. It's more than eating. It's a ritual for us

14:00Like when Jesus brought bread and wine it was to have a fellowship

14:04It's a moment to get together to share our views and our life

14:11Seems like the Italians work to live where Americans live to work

14:15So for us, we're done with the grind culture. We want a relaxed lifestyle

14:21Yeah, they're gonna have to get used to the slower pace. In fact, the philosophy here is charm and efficiency does not mix

14:26So there's no qualms about it, but that'll probably be a learning curve

14:30And we're planning to support ourself with bnb agroturismo hospitality

14:36And maybe even olive oil production salvatore and david and co. I love that

14:42Oh my god. Oh, I love david. I think he's a cool guy. Thank you. No, no, not you

14:47You

14:49He knows what I want. I'm a little bit frightened. I'm not going to be able to find the right house for david

14:54I haven't seen this property yet myself. It was proposed to me through a colleague. I fished it out for them

14:58But it looks fantastic

15:00It's a little bit more house than you might have wanted because it's divided into five apartments

15:04So this represents to me an income stream immediate for bnb doesn't have that much garden though

15:11Look at the entrance here. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. It's a mansion really, huh?

15:16There's an old well and olive press there in the garden. Here's our beautiful host

15:20How are you?

15:21Bene, bene. Look at those puppies. Peppy and peanut. I forget which one is which, but yeah, sorry

15:26Mm-hmm. The house has 15 bedrooms and eight bathrooms. Awesome. I will hand you the keys. Okay

15:34And um, I'll leave it up to you. Thank you. Well, the place is a hodgepodge of culture and history

15:39It's got a little rustic. It's got frescoes for you that we'll see later. Amazing

15:42It looks like the red one that we saw online, but this is prettier. So you've been looking in secret without me, huh?

15:48Well, from here we can see the terrain, which is about 2,000 meters

15:51It's not as much land as you wanted, but it is well cured. What's the price? 750,000. Don't make that face until you see in the inside

15:58There's almost five houses in that price five kitchens. Don't be so negative up front. It would generate income right away

16:04That's what you think right now, but you don't realize how much is expensive until you move in right through here

16:10We've got a lovely workroom study beautifully furnished

16:14Look at the history. You cannot find a house like this in the united states. Maybe in boston. Look at the king of italy

16:21Yeah, that was the last king the one who abdicated and you've got a nice view on the grounds from here

16:25This is my favorite house so far Seville. However, it sits on half an acre. So that's really disappointing

16:32Because there's no farming opportunity. Oh, wow. Look at these beams. It's lovely wood beams working fireplace

16:39And then your rustic kitchen. Okay

16:43Wow

16:44I like the kitchen

16:45Plenty of storage space when you counter space you can see it's an excellent condition. Yeah, it's quite spacious. Oh, yeah

16:51I think we finally agree on something. Yeah, it doesn't happen too often. No, it doesn't

16:55Here's what I think would be the special room for david beautiful living room. Look at the ceilings

17:00This is it told you I'd find you some frescoes, huh? Yeah, this is perfect wasn't easy

17:06We're only gonna see these here. So don't forget this place

17:10Look at the detailing. I love it. Thank you for finding this place for us. Both happy not with the price

17:16$7.50 really not that bad. And let's go take a look at some of the bedrooms

17:22This property is split up into five separate apartments. They're turnkey so we could generate income immediately

17:28But then you have to think about electric gas all of these things to maintain these properties. Oh wow

17:35We will need it to hire someone. I don't see a lot of profit

17:39So we've seen a lot of house. What's your impression?

17:41This is a dream home for me as the frescoes as the beautiful marble fireplace mantel

17:46The only thing that I don't like is it only sits on half an acre, but we can work around that

17:50I think it's a little bit too big too expensive

17:53I knew you're gonna say that

17:54I know that we decided on a certain amount but we do have a cushion to play with and be realistic

17:59Where there's a will there's a way we haven't even run the numbers on how much we could rent these for yet

18:04It's not going to work out money-wise. You're such a pessimist. I'm not pessimist. I'm just realistic. I'm sorry, David

18:11It's too much

18:15Things got a little bit uncomfortable on the roof

18:17I must say because it seemed that David was a lot more convinced than Sal. It's a beautiful historic mansion

18:22It was a wish of your mother's for us to settle here

18:29It's very important to keep that promise and it's important to me too. I loved your mother

18:34But picking the right house is going to be a really hard decision

18:37What I was trying to do for David and Sal from desert to rolling hills was put together three very different properties

18:43Although they all have attributes that they're looking for so I think I've tripped them up quite a bit

18:47If I have my heart set on one property and Salvatore is dead set on another one things may turn rather heated

18:55Let's run through them all

18:57The olive grove house beautiful olive groves. It's more your style house, but with the land could be worth it

19:04But we have no experience to do that. I don't think it's going to be too much work a thousand trees

19:10The rustic Tuscan style farmhouse. I like the pizza oven, but there's not a lot of light

19:16There is no view and I don't like the fact that there is a smaller kitchen

19:20Well to that point it's the least expensive house that we've looked at

19:26We would have two hundred thousand dollars to play with oh my god the fresco villa and the beautiful facade

19:32It screams Italy the only dropout is it only sits on half an acre. We already talked about it David

19:40It's out of our budget. I don't know about that one. I know you don't but that's my number one

19:46I'm sorry

19:48Well, it doesn't have any land

19:50Correct

19:50So okay, the fresco house is out

20:00Although I do love the rustic farmhouse as well and we would be saving a ton of money there

20:06It needs a lot of work. It has half the amount of olive trees

20:09And I think that we would be using the savings to put right back into the house

20:14Plus there's not a view all of those mature trees block it and I would hate to have to cut down old growth trees

20:22It would be like killing someone I can see myself in the olive house, too

20:27Okay, well at least we agree on that. Oh finally

20:31Phoenix is nothing more than a fading memory at this point. We do miss our friends and family

20:36But this next chapter has just been exhilarating

20:40Yeah, there is no traffic. It's like to be in paradise

20:45You're done looking good man. Yeah, I told you we put a lot of effort into learning all there is to know about olive oil production

20:54Let's fill up a bottle. We made about a thousand liters. We're working on our brand and finding buyers

21:00It's better than butter. Mm-hmm. We haven't established the B&B yet, but we had some of my family visit us

21:09We absolutely love the decision that we've made and

21:12Looking at this beautiful view. It's just vacation every day. Yeah, we're making Frita proud

21:18Yeah, mom was right

21:19If was not for the promise that I kept it to her we probably still be in the United States

21:24I think that I can speak for both of us. We're the happiest that we've been in our entire lives

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