00:01Just on another matter, Wodonga Council last night agreed to stump up some money for a lobbyist.
00:08Where does that issue go now?
00:11Well that will now go to tender for a consultant or a lobbyist to consider.
00:18The scope has been completed and has gone out to all the councils for comment
00:22and at our next meeting we will discuss it and get a better understanding of what that looks like
00:28in terms of where we send it and what process we adopt
00:34because at the moment there was the initial concern about the funding
00:38now there's a concern about nailing down the scope which needs to specifically address all Wodonga Health
00:45but also the regional deficiencies in our health systems.
00:49So our Tawongs, our Federations and our Indigos and all other smaller councils are included in that conversation
00:56because you just don't fix one problem.
00:59It's a multitude of problems right around the country and I think again we need to have that opportunity
01:05through the lobbyists to communicate that to the relevant bureaucrats in government
01:09and certainly reach out to their ministers on that particular issue.
01:13Is it a lobbyist or a consultant?
01:16It's a lobbyist.
01:17It's a lobbyist.
01:18It's a lobbyist.
01:19It's a lobbyist.
01:20Yeah I understand there was a little bit of to and fro about that but no it's a lobbyist
01:26and certainly that's the purpose.
01:28The lobbyist has those relationships and that ability to access government from a different angle.
01:36We've tried the top down.
01:37The top down is not listening.
01:39The bottom up is the approach right now.
01:42And I think again if you see the activity that's been happening in that space reported by all of you
01:48it's getting a little bit contestable and essentially that's the stuff you now need to leverage off
01:53because there's a lot of indecision going on with health infrastructure in New South Wales,
01:58with Aubrey-Donga Health, with the government you need to strike while the iron is hot.
02:04And if we don't use that opportunity now you won't get it again.
02:07And everything's up in the air at the moment.
02:10Where's car parking?
02:11Where's allied services building?
02:13Where is the tower?
02:15What is in the tower?
02:16It's all changing every day.
02:18So we need to leverage off that before it becomes beyond our grasp.
02:23So on that point there was some doubt expressed last night about the
02:28development that turned a phrase fall over used by the mayor and his immediate predecessor.
02:35Are you worried that clinical services building won't actually go ahead?
02:41I'm not worried about it.
02:42I'd be happy if it didn't.
02:43So happy if it didn't go ahead.
02:47The reality right now is there's a whole range of moving paths.
02:50Allied services building is the first thing they've tendered out and they haven't progressed that too far at this point.
02:57They've created car parks around an existing site.
03:00Where is the multi-storey car parking?
03:02Who knows?
03:03Okay.
03:04The clinical services building, it's as far away as the multi-storey car parking at this point.
03:09So there's a big gap between all of those developments and there's an opportunity to intervene.
03:15As I said to the Premier two or three weeks ago, intervention is not a shame.
03:22It's an opportunity because they can still utilise those buildings as overflow until they build a greenfield hospital.
03:28But we need to keep on that particular platform and keep pushing that platform because our community have spoken and they are quite clear that is not good enough out there.
03:39That needs to change.
03:41And as I again said to the Premier, he said, what's it going to take to make it work?
03:46I said another half a billion dollars on that site alone.
03:50It's not good enough.
03:52Are you confident you'll get another half a billion?
03:54He said, where do I get that from?
03:55I said, you know.
03:56He goes, well, I could go to the feds.
03:58I said, you could.
03:59There's an idea.
04:01And you know, I can't notice, Mark Butler's gone silent when he said he'd happily meet with both state ministers.
04:09And as far as I'm aware, it hasn't happened.
04:12And we haven't had any communication with Park's office or Mary Ann Thomas's office.
04:17But the reality is, what happened to that engagement?
04:20Oh, that's right.
04:21We're in the election.
04:22Nothing to see.
04:23It's like that.
04:24You know, it just, it's just, you know, we need to reinvest in those engagements and hold them to account to that agreement.
04:33And the agreement was Park told us he would happily meet with Mark Butler.
04:37Mark Butler said he would happily bring both parties into the room and have a conversation.
04:41It hasn't happened.
04:42So we need to have that conversation because this is not just Aubrey Wodong Health.
04:45It's regional Australia health.
04:47Everyone's suffering.
04:49And we are right at the forefront at the moment.
04:52Just to get back to that lobbyist, in relation to the mechanics now, so you said you're going to tender.
04:57Does that mean that's through Aubrey Council on behalf of the group?
05:00Well, that's what, that's one of the mechanics of that process that has to be determined.
05:05The initial idea of the lobbyist was mooted by Indigo Council.
05:10But we need to determine which council is actually, is the alliance, the alliance can't go to tender because they're not a, they're not a regulated alliance.
05:19But a council will have to take the ownership of that and certainly that will be the process.
05:23Yes.
05:24You have to go to the market.
05:25Yep.
05:26And so in terms of the timing then, is that something you hope to have that tender out by the end of the year?
05:30We hope to have a decision on the scope by the end of our next meeting and going out to tender.
05:37Who will go out to tender and the process should go out to tender straight after.
05:42So you'll have the tender process flowing through November December?
05:45Well the scope is the major part of the tender, the tender is just a process.
05:49So I'm pretty confident we'll get it done in November, yeah.
05:52So in terms of the appointment though, of the lobbyists, when do you expect that?
05:56Well there is a real reduction in terms of health experts in that space, you don't have a lot to choose from.
06:05So you would hope there is probably a quicker resolution than ordinarily.
06:11But the reality is we've got to wait and over Christmas they don't come back till February like anyone else.
06:20So it's not really, that time factor is not an issue.
06:23Construction doesn't come back till March.
06:26But you know the reality is we've shut down this country for three months.
06:29And I think the tender itself is not in fear of missing out on an opportunity.
06:33I think again we just need to decide the scope, finalise the scope, then determine who's going to take the responsibility
06:40of going to tender and then tender it out.
06:42But in an ideal world you'd say you may have the lobbyists in place.
06:46I'd hope we'd have an idea by the end of December who's interested.
06:49Because you've got 28 days to generate your interest.
06:53So if you went out in the first month, first week of November, you would hope to have a response by the end of December as to who's interested.
07:00Yeah.
07:01Yeah, for sure.
07:02And then they'd be in place early in the new year then too.
07:05Yeah, for sure.
07:06And how will it work in terms of the writing instructions that they get?
07:09Because obviously you mentioned the scope's got to be determined.
07:12So presumably now there'll be a meeting of the Alliance to discuss that.
07:15The scope has been written and it's been finessed a couple of times to include other things that other councils have requested.
07:22Once we finalise that scope in our next meeting, that becomes the body of the tender and then we can go out to the market.
07:28Yeah.
07:29So the scope has been written.
07:31Right.
07:32And last week there was the evote of no confidence in Albury-Wadonga Health.
07:36What did you take away from that?
07:39Look, I think it was a new alliance of doctors, 70 doctors.
07:44The AMA were responsible behind the forming of that committee.
07:51It was a very strong voice on behalf of what's happening at Albury-Wadonga Health.
07:56And I'm clear that Albury-Wadonga Health feels they're not legally obliged to act on their request.
08:05But I think politically, I think the governments on both sides of the river need to consider what that looks like in terms of the confidence in the market.
08:15And that the confidence is quite low, it would appear.
08:19Also, when I had the conversation with the Premier, they have a service level agreement that also requires them to look after the people in Albury, the people in New South Wales.
08:32It just doesn't mean that Victoria manages Albury-Wadonga Health.
08:37They don't.
08:38We contribute to the operational costs of the hospital as a state.
08:42We have a responsibility to our taxpayers and our voters, and he is aware of that.
08:47So essentially it works on both sides of the river.
08:49So it may not matter to Mary Ann Thomas what the doctors think, but it may matter to Ryan Park what the doctors think.
08:55So we need to keep leveraging off that position.
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09:15It'll have the connection between the student for the faculty and staff.
09:17It's about mental and why you're not taking things differently.
09:19It'll be a very positive conversation here.
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