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Bessent Advisor Says Tariffs Could Bring in $300 Billion
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When I speak to individuals that are sitting on the other side of the U.S. trade representative
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or Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, they say that they have been told and given assurances
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by this administration that if they are in good faith negotiations, that that deadline
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can be pushed back. Is that your understanding? Well, that's what Secretary Besson has said,
00:20
and Secretary Lutnik recently said about 10 to 12 countries are very close to a deal.
00:26
There's about another 20 that are also negotiating good faith, and Secretary Besson recently
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highlighted that many deals could be done by Labor Day. So there's a lot of good progress.
00:34
But on the tariffs, I just want to be clear, the consensus view among almost everybody was
00:39
that tariffs would start to impact the data in March. It didn't happen in March, it didn't
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happen in April, it didn't happen in May, and we know there's a big number associated with
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the revenue. We could have $300 billion of tariff revenue this year that's coming in.
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So we've got this huge increase in revenue. So they're there. And the reason the tariffs
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are impacting things in large part is because foreign producers, as we learned from the first
01:04
Trump administration, are absorbing it in their margin.
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When it comes to Japan specifically, the president said that they're spoiled. And he talked about
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the fact that maybe he's going to go for 30, 35 percent rate. On a Liberation Day, they
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only had a 24 percent rate. Do you see any country going above April 2nd rates?
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The president is a very tough negotiator, and I'm confident that whatever winds up happening
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with Japan and everyone else is going to be in the U.S. best interest. This is a negotiation.
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And again, as Secretary Besson's highlighted many times, as long as countries are negotiating in good
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faith, that's a positive. And then we take it from there. But I do expect, as the Secretary said,
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there are deals forthcoming.
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The market response to all of this has been pretty much a shrug. We've seen new record highs
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for equity markets, except the dollar has continued to weaken and weaken to some of the lowest levels,
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weakest levels going back to 2022. At what point is that a concern for you?
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Lisa, first of all, a lot of that weakness is vis-a-vis the euro. If you look at the Fed's
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real broad trade-weighted index, which is about 26 countries, as opposed to, I believe,
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the Bloomberg DXY, I think it's only six or seven. It's a small sample. If you look at the real
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broad trade-weighted index, it's close to one of the highest readings we've had since the Plaza
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Accord back in 1985. So this notion that somehow there's a selling of U.S. assets, that the dollars
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weak. Some major financial outlets have talked about that. It's completely incorrect. It's not
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consistent with the tick data. It's not inconsistent with the recent BIS report, which talked about
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some of the selling of assets in April. That brief period of selling was actually due to hedging.
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It wasn't due to lack of demand for U.S. assets. So the dollar is the reserve currency. The dollar
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will be strong. The dollar is still strong. And I think those concerns are greatly misplaced.
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