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00:00I think there's only one way to start today's show, and it's to say this.
00:05I got the Warriors minus two.
00:06Yeah, cuckoo.
00:08There it is.
00:09What does Chauncey have, though?
00:11I mean, he's more involved in poker, but, I mean, there are other people involved.
00:15And I did a fairly deep dive on both indictments just to try to get the actual literature of what exactly is being charged.
00:24The Chauncey Billups poker one is absolutely fascinating.
00:29And if you think that any time that you go somewhere and you're trying to game with cards involved, like, you better be careful now.
00:38No doubt.
00:39No doubt.
00:40Speaking of careful, all of us here at the Willie and Dibby family, when we woke up to this, we were immediately reminded of something that Steve Kerr said to us yesterday.
00:54When we tried to joke with him, I think the way I asked him, I'd go, you got Jimmy or Steph?
01:00Right, right.
01:01In their little side bet.
01:02In their little bet.
01:03And Steve turtled up like a ninja and was like, uh, so the league sent us some notes about the whole gambling thing?
01:14And I immediately was like, oh, gosh, I wonder if this is either, A, dipping their toe in the water of something that they should not have said publicly.
01:22But then when I woke up today, I immediately thought of it and I went, oh, I bet in that moment Steve knew something that the rest of us did not know, which was that the other shoe was about to drop.
01:34Right, and the other shoe has already dropped and we knew about this part of it from Rozier from a couple of years ago and the fact that it got percolated back up, it's a percolation sensation, Mark, is what it is.
01:46But it's because of the assistant coach who is tied to both indictments.
01:51And so today the big news is the Chauncey Billups mob ties poker scam and they took more than $7 million from seven different people.
02:00I'm sorry, six different people.
02:02And I read through all of it.
02:04One of the John Does, John Doe number seven was a guy who had the card shuffling cheat machine and they basically, and by they I mean the Italian mob families, they basically told him, you're going to give us that machine or else.
02:18And so he's like, I don't want to give it to you.
02:21And they said, I mean, which one of your legs don't you like the most?
02:24And so.
02:25How would you answer that question?
02:26I would have given it to my left for sure.
02:28Me too.
02:28It's already so broken.
02:29You can have it.
02:30There you go.
02:30It's already halfway off.
02:32So, but John Doe number seven, but the other six John Does were, oh, I want to play poker with Chauncey Billups.
02:38This would be so fun.
02:39You lose a million dollars and now you owe us.
02:42I mean, here's the way, here's the way it's saying that we'd actually love to chat with all y'all about this.
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03:47I do think it's a day, though, you know, and you've done a deep dive, and you've got all of the mafia names that, quite frankly, sound like...
03:56Dude, it was incredible.
03:58I mean, it sounds like a ridiculous cartoon movie, and so we can play with a lot of that.
04:03But I wonder where all of you are on the general idea of sports gambling, and A, as it becomes more and more the norm,
04:15as it becomes more and more accepted in some states, not all states, to what level is it imperative to your enjoyment?
04:23Because when I read a story like this, you and I are very, very different.
04:28You do, and you're way more academic on it.
04:30You do a deep dive.
04:32How long was that indictment, by the way, when you read it?
04:34Only 22 pages.
04:35I'm out.
04:35So you read the indictment.
04:38My mind just goes to, yeah, this is who we are.
04:43This is who we are.
04:43Today's arrestees are Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones, and who's my guy, Terry Rozier.
04:51That's who got arrested.
04:53But that's just three examples of the larger, massive sort of conglomerate that has been built here, which is all of us.
05:03This is who we are.
05:06There's not a one of us.
05:07How often do you and I start a football conversation, and within seven minutes, I mean, I'm listening to Stiney and Goo today,
05:15and Stiney starts a segment with, hey, Evan, should I start Quentin Johnston tonight?
05:21Well, what is that?
05:22Yeah, this is the answer.
05:23Well, and actually called him Quentin Richardson, who's a former basketball player for the Clippers.
05:28The Clippers, cute.
05:28Stiney has just a wee bit of a lane sometimes.
05:32But anyway, like, that's the way our brains work.
05:37There is still love in sports, but it's very narrow, is it not?
05:43It's incredibly narrow.
05:45I will watch the Warriors and Nuggets tonight, and I will be at the edge of my seat, and I will not have one dollar on the line.
05:52But that is increasingly rare, I think, both for fans and just for how many things we feel that way about.
06:01I told you this so many times.
06:03All I can do is look at the sports fans I've raised.
06:06I've tried to raise them well.
06:07Yeah.
06:07And I'm telling you, dude, like, it's hard for me to turn the Niner game off because I have to turn the Red Zone channel off to get the Niner game on,
06:18and it ticks them off because they're more into their fantasy team than they are the Niner game.
06:22Right, and I think that that is a byproduct of the fact that everything now is available, and here we are at Splash, and this place is wonderful,
06:30and as we get deeper into the night, every NBA game will be on.
06:34Totally.
06:34And, you know, if it were a different time of year or for the weekend, you'd have every NFL game on,
06:38and I remember being here last year for our March Madness special, and every – it was before the games were on because I was gone.
06:47I was going to say, actually, I think we were here, and you were drunk on the phone.
06:50That's what I remember.
06:52Allegedly, and I'd have to listen back to the tape to remember it, but I recall cussing a couple of times.
06:59You recall very little from that.
07:00I feel like I was a little bit of a John Feliciano in Vegas.
07:03Shut up!
07:04But the week before we were here, and there was a bunch of, like, conference games and NIT, and so, yeah,
07:10all the stuff is – it's not centered around gambling, but all of us become fans of so much because of gambling,
07:19and I get that.
07:20And so when you think about the news today, which is kind of a weird one because if Chauncey Billups was not Chauncey Billups,
07:27we never would have heard about this.
07:29If it was like, you know, Joe Schmoe who was involved in this poker thing, it never would have made news,
07:36but the fact that it's an NBA coach who is a part of this thing, which goes back to 2019,
07:41as I look at the indictment right now, it's not a new thing.
07:45It's not like it happened on Tuesday.
07:48This goes back six years, and yet the government decided today on night three of the NBA season,
07:55oh, all of a sudden now we have all the things that we need for this indictment?
07:59No, this whole thing was so politically charged.
08:02The timing of it is not an accident.
08:04And so, yeah, it's sports gambling, and for most people it'll be a one-day blip,
08:09and you're going to be back betting on player props and the rest.
08:12I would love to send an invitation out to everybody listening to us right now.
08:16888-957-9570, that's the number.
08:20Be honest with yourself, and then be honest with us.
08:24You can stay anonymous.
08:26Call us and make up a name, right?
08:28If your name is Corey in San Jose, call yourself Bill.
08:31I got some nicknames you can use here.
08:33But, like, maybe your name is Ja'Cory Krosky, and you can just go as Bill.
08:37Who knows?
08:38Like, just make up a stupid name that's got nothing to do with your actual name.
08:42Maybe your name is Amar Awade, and you go by Flapper Poker.
08:47Maybe.
08:48Flapper Poker.
08:48Flapper Poker.
08:50By the way, save these, because they're all going to be future fantasy team names for me.
08:54The Flapper Pokers.
08:56That's definitely one I'm going to use.
08:57Osman Hoti, Albanian Bruce.
08:59I'm in.
09:00We're the Albanian Bruce.
09:01Absolutely.
09:02So, here's a question, though.
09:04So, what percentage of your sports fandom and watching is related to gaming?
09:13Well, how would you answer that?
09:15And I know I'm throwing that at you real quick here.
09:17I want to give you a second to think about it.
09:19But, literally, if it's not a Niner game, and it's not a Warrior game, and it's not a Giants game, then everything else I'm watching probably has something to do with some sort of direct or indirect entry point to some sort of gaming.
09:39And, therefore, what is the percentage of sports watching that is Niners, Giants, and Warriors?
09:47I mean...
09:47Maybe a third.
09:48I was thinking more like a half.
09:50Yeah.
09:51You know, maybe.
09:52Like, I watch all of them.
09:53I watch all of them.
09:54Right.
09:54And I'm not like Guru.
09:55I'm not like on the ATP tour on my night.
09:58You know, last night's a great example.
09:59Yeah.
10:00The TV was off.
10:02There ain't nothing going on.
10:03There was.
10:04Wemby was going off.
10:05Right, but I didn't watch.
10:06I didn't watch because I didn't prize pick or underdog Wemby last night.
10:11Yeah, yeah.
10:11Are we even allowed to do that in California right now?
10:15Yeah.
10:15Like, that was a shruggy side shot.
10:18I mean...
10:18Ha!
10:19We don't even know if we're...
10:20Right.
10:20Are we...
10:21Is it legal?
10:22I don't even know.
10:23I would say that...
10:24Yeah, for now.
10:25More than, like, outside of the Giants, Warriors, and Niners,
10:29what do I watch and why do I watch it?
10:31Well, I watch NFL football because I'm in a fantasy league.
10:35I'm in a pick-em pool.
10:36There you go.
10:36And I love it.
10:37And it's my job.
10:39And outside of that, a great example for me is the PGA Tour.
10:43For the previous seven years, I was in a PGA Tour fantasy league.
10:48There it is.
10:48Where you pick two golfers and, you know, your top pick,
10:51you don't get them the rest of the year, whatever.
10:53I don't watch the PGA Tour anymore because I'm not in the PGA Tour.
10:58I'm not in this pool any longer, so I don't need to grind over the, you know,
11:03the greater Greensboro Open, rest in peace, and all the rest of it.
11:07And the other one is horse racing.
11:09Well, that's the only reason it even exists.
11:12Right.
11:12We got the Breeders' Cup, which is coming up a week from tomorrow and Saturday,
11:17and I'm going to be locked in because I'm really into it,
11:20and it's interesting about that.
11:22Put your bet on it, right?
11:23Yeah, I'm not just going to watch for the majesty of a chestnut colt.
11:28If anybody watches horse racing because they love horses,
11:32if you love horses, you hate horse racing.
11:34Pretty much.
11:35Yeah.
11:35Although those horses do get taken better care of than any other horses.
11:39I know, but, like, if that's...
11:40Other than Bob Baffert's horses.
11:42If you're just an animal lover, you're not like,
11:44Churchill Downs, let's ride.
11:46That's not where you would go.
11:47No, and that, to me, is what I thought of when you asked me that question
11:50because, like, we do what we do, and so we have to watch sports,
11:54and, oh, boy, what a burden.
11:56I love sports.
11:57But when it comes to, like, other sports that I'm not betting on,
12:01I'm probably not going to watch a ton of it.
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