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00:00You can't always make every right decision in baseball and have those years filled out
00:05perfectly on paper.
00:06You have to have some feel, and you've got to have a culture, and you've got to have
00:09things that aren't quantified on an analytical scale.
00:13All these things matter, and when you get a player like Rafael Devers to your ball club
00:18in a place where it's known as pitchers-friendly and maybe not so much hitter-friendly, you
00:23basically have put a shot of adrenaline in your clubhouse that typically works out pretty
00:29well.
00:29Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:34All right, it's time for the crossover.
00:36Let's welcome in Mark Willard, Dan Dibley.
00:38That was John Smoltz, Hall of Fame pitcher, pretty good reliever, pretty good starter.
00:45Good golfer.
00:45Now works on a 1.2 handicap.
00:49He's a 1.2 handicap.
00:51Yeah, it's pretty good.
00:52I looked up him and Jerry Rice.
00:54I can't remember which is which.
00:56One's a 1.5 and one's a 1.2.
00:58Interesting because.
00:59I'll take Smoltz in that math.
01:00I will too.
01:01Looking at the American Century Celebrity Championship coming up in Tahoe in about three weeks.
01:08Yep.
01:08Last year, Jerry Rice was like bottom third.
01:11Yeah.
01:11Struggling.
01:12Oh, boy.
01:12And I know he's older now.
01:13He's an older golfer.
01:14And, you know, it happens to all of us.
01:16But if he's posting his scores regularly.
01:19Maybe not.
01:19Yeah.
01:20I don't know if the GOAT is a 1.5 anymore.
01:22He takes it very seriously, though.
01:24Oh, my God.
01:25He loves his golf and his golf outfits.
01:27Oh, my gosh.
01:28He takes them very seriously.
01:31And you would think that because of the way he conducted himself on the field with that little white towel.
01:36Flash 80.
01:37Yeah.
01:37He's aware of how he looks.
01:39Yep.
01:39He's got it.
01:40I think there's nothing that will stop these guys from competing at, like, the highest level.
01:44It's just like, I feel like for Jerry Rice, I don't know about Smoltz, although he conceals it maybe better than Jerry Rice does.
01:50But those guys want to kick anybody's ass in anything at any time.
01:54You're 1,000% right.
01:55Kobe used to say that he would race his daughters.
01:59It was like who could get to the table to eat dinner first.
02:03Like, they will.
02:04And everything is a competition.
02:06Yeah.
02:06All things.
02:07All the time.
02:09Yeah.
02:10I remember just a couple summers ago, Dibs, we had a family get-together, and we like to do crossword puzzles.
02:18Okay.
02:19My sister made a crossword puzzle for us each day, but it was a contest who could get it done the fastest.
02:27Gotcha.
02:28There wasn't as much enjoyment as there should have been.
02:31Right.
02:31Because she created the crossword.
02:32Correct.
02:33No, she printed out seven old New York Times crosswords, and then she put everybody on the clock, and it just was a little less enjoyable.
02:43Yeah.
02:43The beauty of the crossword is you wake up in the morning with your coffee, and you skim through and get what you can get, and then you go about your day, and maybe you grab a break where you've got to see a man about a dog, and you've got eight minutes, and you bring it in there, and you maybe fill out a little bit more.
02:58And before you go to bed, you top it off with what you can do, and you see how you did, and you circle back to tomorrow.
03:03Yeah, does anybody ever finish those?
03:05My dad does these all day long, and I've never asked him.
03:07The minis.
03:08Yeah.
03:09That's about it.
03:10Do you finish?
03:11Or do you just always?
03:12Yeah, the Monday I could come very close, if not finish it, and as you get down to Friday, Friday I might get a third of it right.
03:18Yeah, Saturday's even tougher.
03:20And forget Sunday.
03:21That thing is a monster.
03:22Yeah, but you guys are talking like the newspaper thing.
03:24Right, right.
03:25Like, you can also get these, like, where you can get a book of them.
03:29Oh, yeah.
03:30I'm sure you can print stuff out online.
03:33Yeah, yeah.
03:33Where it's not like a staircase effect like you guys are talking about.
03:36Correct.
03:37I have a book of Los Angeles, a few papers.
03:41Like, the New York Times obviously has their own.
03:43The L.A. Times has their own.
03:45I believe the Washington Post has its own, and you can get the books of them for, like, you know, a year's worth.
03:51I mean, you know people's, Evan's age here are like, I'm sorry, L.A. Times and New York Times, what is this you speak of?
03:56I've never heard of these albums.
03:57I might be the only person my age to know.
04:00That's true.
04:00Because I.
04:01You're a bad example.
04:02Well, I really do enjoy a nice Sunday San Francisco Chronicle.
04:06Do you really?
04:06Yeah, I swear to God.
04:07Hard copy?
04:08Oh, yeah, absolutely.
04:09What does that thing run yet?
04:09Oh, my God.
04:10It's usually like $4.50.
04:12Do you get the newspaper delivered?
04:14No, no, no.
04:14I don't get it delivered.
04:15I'll just watch you a place.
04:16You go get it.
04:17Oh, yeah.
04:17Grab a cup of coffee, like, read the funnies, go through the paper.
04:21You're such a throwback.
04:23I love that.
04:23It's unbelievable.
04:24The best stories are in the Sunday paper.
04:26It's also, you know, because the cutbacks or a lot of the original content is, yeah, I'll just go through the paper if I got time.
04:32Amazing.
04:34I haven't picked up a newspaper in probably 15 years.
04:38What did you think of the game last night?
04:41Sloppy.
04:41Yeah, not a clean game by the Giants.
04:44It was schmitty.
04:44Yeah, very schmitty.
04:47Yeah, when he did that thing on our show a year and a half ago about that ball got schmidt on.
04:51Yep.
04:52I sit there like that.
04:53Play on words now goes through my head in about eight different ways when I watch him play now.
04:58I know that he had two Grand Slams last weekend.
05:01One of them did not matter and was weird, but one of them really did, and so that was a lot of fun.
05:06But, good Lord.
05:06I mean, let's just dive right into the question.
05:10Would you have sent him?
05:11Oh, the last guy.
05:12I would have sent him.
05:13I don't care if it looked like he was going to be out.
05:16Casey Schmidt's not getting a hit off of Class A.
05:19Period.
05:20You're not getting a hit.
05:22Well, if that's your approach, then we have a bigger problem than do you send him or do you not send him?
05:27No, I think every lineup in baseball, maybe save one, you've got people in your lineup that have holes in their swings.
05:33And Casey is one of them, and he's a temp.
05:36He's got a good temp job.
05:37It's his third baseman at the Giants.
05:38You just mentioned he hit two Grand Slams over the weekend, so you could say that he's at least lukewarm, if not hot.
05:43One of them was off of a utility outfielder.
05:47Did he hit it over the fence with three runners on base?
05:49It doesn't count.
05:50And didn't he come up with the bases loaded to end the game?
05:53Yes.
05:54Oh, boy.
05:54Yes.
05:55How can you pinch hit for him then?
05:57Well, you couldn't, because you had already used your good pinch hitter, by the way.
06:01Melvin was probably thinking, I'm sitting pretty, either this guy, either we're going to get the run in or we're going to win it on a Grand Slam.
06:09I mean, look, if we live in the age of analytics, what is Casey in general?
06:14A 220 hitter?
06:16I would argue against Klaus A, you're looking at a 15% to 20% chance that he gets a hit.
06:21I've got a better than 15% or 20% chance that Jung Hooley scores on that fly ball.
06:25Well, you also have to add in the fact that he can draw a walk, which is a part of what would be a positive result.
06:32You could also add in the hit-by-pitch, and you could add in error.
06:36And a wild pitch, sure.
06:37Yeah, these are all outcomes that add up to more than just 15% to 20%.
06:41Yeah, I'm a big fan of, like, make the other team make a play.
06:46And they might have made it, but they've got three or four things that they need to go through to execute that play.
06:53You catch the ball.
06:53You've got to throw the ball with accuracy.
06:55The catcher's got to handle it perfectly.
06:57The catcher's got to get the tag down without dropping the ball.
07:00The catcher's got to do that without getting called for interference.
07:03I mean, there's all kinds of things that are going on there.
07:05I just, I don't know.
07:07To me, it felt like a higher percentage that he scores in case he gets a hit.
07:10Same outfielder who hosed Casey at second in the previous inning.
07:13Hosing someone at second.
07:15He's got a very good arm.
07:16He's actually got the third-best arm of their outfield, but they have a good outfield.
07:19But throwing the ball to second base from left field is not, that's not a difficult throw.
07:24Right.
07:24Yeah.
07:25I mean, a lot of people, a lot of people I was sitting around, it was very split.
07:28But in real time, I did not look at that as a send.
07:31And it's because partially who is in left field, and not even just because he made the throw earlier,
07:36but, like, Stephen Kwan has a very good arm.
07:39Yeah.
07:39And that ball would have beat him by 15 feet.
07:41And the only reason that, I know it bounced away from the catcher, but if you look at
07:46the play, the only reason it short hops him is because he has to come up to the ball,
07:49because he knows that Lee's not running.
07:51That's correct.
07:51That's correct.
07:52That's a perfect one-hop to home plate your guys out.
07:54So, I just think that there's more things that can go wrong in the at-bat than trying
08:01to test a multi-time gold-glove left fielder on a play in which his momentum is bringing
08:07him towards home plate.
08:08I hear you.
08:08That's just me.
08:09I hear you.
08:09I couldn't fault Williams for not sending him.
08:12No, I don't fault him.
08:13I get it.
08:14I just, I would have sent him.
08:17That pitching matchup for Casey Schmidt in that moment did not feel like something that
08:24was going to go well.
08:25And it went exactly the way I thought it would go.
08:27I wonder, as a third-base coach, if you are thinking about that, like, you know, Casey
08:32against Class A and a fly ball to left, if you're thinking, I'm going to be more aggressive,
08:36or if you're just trying to coach the situation because that was not an easy call for a third-base
08:42coach.
08:42No.
08:42And you're thinking, if I send him and he's...
08:45I think it's his job.
08:45It's his job to be...
08:45It's a difficult job.
08:46But those scenarios have to be in his head.
08:48But I don't know if part of the scenario is Casey's up next and I don't think that he
08:52can hit Class A.
08:53I don't think...
08:55I absolutely think that if Matt thought that it was a 50-50 proposition, you send him.
09:02For sure.
09:03Class A has also been beatable this year.
09:05And he's given up two hits and walked the guy in the inning.
09:07No doubt.
09:08I hear you.
09:09Those were to the Giants' middle-of-the-order hitters, though.
09:13Yeah.
09:13You're going to treat them differently.
09:14And we know that Casey goes out of the zone.
09:17Casey does not have a good eye.
09:19He does not command the strike zone well.
09:21He swings at bad pitches.
09:23And so he threw him sliders low and away.
09:26And he swung at him.
09:27You know?
09:28I mean, I hear you guys.
09:29I'm not saying it was an easy call by any strike.
09:31You've got to be encouraged, though, by the first game with your new bat.
09:35I know you only got two runs, but you get 10 hits.
09:38And you do have 13 opportunities with runners on base.
09:41Like, I know that they only scored two runs yesterday, but I actually thought that their
09:45offense looked markedly better.
09:47Like, night and day different.
09:49I agree with you completely.
09:50I thought the whole lineup, the feel of the whole game as you go through the lineup felt
09:54completely different.
09:56Look, that ballpark is always going to spit out a lot of three to two games.
09:59It was one baseball game.
10:01I'm not, like, down on the offense.
10:02I'm with you.
10:03I thought the whole thing looked different.
10:05We know that, in theory, it'll get even better.
10:08Matt Chapman's going to get added to that lineup.
10:10Wilmer Flores will be back in the lineup tonight.
10:13No, I thought the whole thing felt different, and I thought Rafi did great.
10:17Like, that's a presence at the, he was exactly the presence at the plate that you would hope.
10:22That's what I felt.
10:23Yeah, I'd like to see him get to third.
10:26Hey.
10:27I hear you.
10:27He's not Springsteen.
10:28Do you know what his nickname is?
10:29He's not born to run.
10:30What's his nickname?
10:30Did you hear about his nickname from June Lee, who's covered him in Boston?
10:34No.
10:35Apparently he likes ice cream.
10:36Uh-oh.
10:37So do I.
10:38They call him two scoops.
10:40I just had two scoops.
10:43You had two scoops?
10:43I went up and got two scoops.
10:45You didn't have to try to stretch a double into a triple, though, last night.
10:48I didn't.
10:49I didn't.
10:50Or tag up.
10:51Did you ask him for a second scoop?
10:52I did.
10:52Okay.
10:52Well, he asked me, do you want a second scoop?
10:55Oh, okay.
10:55And I looked at the cup, and I went, I do.
10:58And not like Steve Kerr.
11:00No, no, no.
11:01It was definitive.
11:02Yeah.
11:02Do you want a second scoop?
11:03I do.
11:04Man.
11:04And then we had a second scoop.
11:06Sixth floor, fellas, as you get out of here at 2-11, it's going to be there until 2-30.
11:10Ice cream social.
11:11Yeah.
11:11Well, Sunday's not eating today, so.
11:13Anyway.
11:14Are you fasting today?
11:16Well, I had a breakfast sandwich, but that's going to hopefully be it for today.
11:19That's it.
11:20Are you doing, like, intermittent fasting?
11:22I'm going back east for a buddy's birthday party that my daughter's getting married the week after.
11:28I can try to drop a quick six, Mark.
11:31Okay, so you're not doing intermittent fasting.
11:34If you're fasting, you're essentially, you're cramming for a weight test.
11:38I'm doing intermittent fasting consistently, if you know what I mean.
11:43This is a classic.
11:44For a week.
11:44This is a stiny, mirror diet.
11:46That's not, like, intermittent fasting would be, like, for the last six months, on Wednesdays
11:51and Saturdays, I only have 200 calories a day.
11:55This is more like, uh...
11:56You're like, no, I have a test next week, and I'm going to stay up all night.
11:59That's exactly right.
12:00All right.
12:00And I've done this once before.
12:03I was cramming.
12:03How'd it go?
12:04I went very well.
12:06I was on a road trip covering the Warriors in Houston, and I was going to a wedding in
12:12Palm Beach, Florida.
12:15Uh-huh.
12:15And, uh, you know, there were going to be a lot of, uh, people there, women that I
12:19knew from college.
12:20Oh, a lot of women.
12:21And so we had to, we had to get, we had to put it on the fast track.
12:25Okay.
12:26And, um, that's what I'm doing.
12:27You know, so, uh...
12:28Who are you trying to impress next week?
12:30Oh, my buddy's back east.
12:32Oh.
12:32You know, the guys I went to college with.
12:34I can't be coming back in there disheveled and sloppy.
12:37You don't look disheveled and sloppy.
12:39I'm going to look even better next week.
12:40All right.
12:41Not in that sweater.
12:42I thought at age 60 you stopped caring what other people thought.
12:45That's what I thought.
12:46That's what I'm looking forward to.
12:47You'd be surprised.
12:48All right.
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13:03in San Francisco.
13:05What?
13:07Here's the, here's my issue with Casey Schmidt.
13:12If Devers gets caught on a play like that, you want to strangle him.
13:19But Casey Schmidt is not good enough to get picked off on a play like that.
13:26Like, you just, and if you saw the replay, I'm not sure what he was thinking, because
13:31you can tell he picks up the flight of the ball, but he continues to kind of meander toward
13:37third, where I was thinking, okay, you see it in the air, you got to stop right here,
13:44and you got to make sure that ball gets down.
13:46But he kept drifting, like, toward third.
13:51Terrible.
13:52Mark, we had first and second, nobody out.
13:55We.
13:55In the bottom of the eighth.
13:57We.
13:58And what happens?
13:59Yeah, they lost the game.
14:00Now we got to run it on first with two outs.
14:02No, I, what, but why are you saying that that would be okay if Devers did that?
14:06Because Devers is good.
14:07No, that, like, that's not okay.
14:09No, no adult should do what happened last night.
14:11But especially not the guy who's one of your worst hits.
14:15Well, and in theory, by the way, apparently his foot is also still really hurting him.
14:20He should have, like, he should have had a double on his hit.
14:24What happened was.
14:25He should have had a double.
14:26What happened was.
14:27He's not moving well.
14:28He fouls the ball off his front foot, and in the recoil, he sprained the other ankle.
14:33So it's not the ball hitting the foot, it's the fact that he sprained his ankle.
14:36Or both.
14:37I'm sure both don't feel good.
14:39Yeah, this is just, according to sources, that it was the sprained ankle that's giving him problems.
14:44So you don't have a great ankle right now.
14:46Your other foot probably hurts.
14:48So where are you going?
14:49Maybe that's the reason why he's drifting, because he feels like if it does get down,
14:54he's got to bust it to third, because he's hobbled.
14:57Either way, in that spot, you can't afford to do that.
15:01And then, unfortunately, in the ninth, he's the last out of the game in a second spot
15:05where he could have done something to atone.
15:07You know, we're, like, looking at the Giants going, okay, now they've got a lineup.
15:10We know they've got a great pitching staff.
15:11Are they a bad base-running team?
15:14Yes.
15:15And I'm worried about their defense, too.
15:17Absolutely.
15:17Are you worried about their defense?
15:18Yeah.
15:19What part?
15:21Well, Adamus.
15:23Yeah, that's been annoying.
15:24That didn't hurt him, though, last night.
15:26They got away with it.
15:27You know, Ramos scares me a little bit.
15:29Well, he's not a great defender.
15:31No.
15:32But he's not a terrible defender.
15:34But he's not a great...
15:35When you bat like that, you can be mediocre in the field.
15:40What I'm really worried about is, apparently, we're going to have a first baseman soon
15:44who's probably not going to be a good fielder.
15:49Yeah.
15:50That's probably true.
15:52Or, if a lefty's on the mound, you're also going to have a first baseman that's not very good.
15:56Because Flores is probably going to play first.
15:57That's kind of what I meant.
15:58Either one.
15:59Him or Devers.
15:59Because Flores is fine.
16:02They don't want to play him there, Mark.
16:03No, but it's not because he's not good at it.
16:04It's because he breaks down.
16:05He wears down.
16:06It's because his knee hurts.
16:06I'm petty.
16:07Because his knee hurts.
16:09Yeah.
16:10Well, you could bring up Bryce Eldridge and have him make errors, too, if you want.
16:13He had another homer last night.
16:15Well, what are his numbers updated?
16:17Oh.
16:18He's got five hits and three of them left the yard.
16:20Yep.
16:20Yeah.
16:20His OPS is about 600, maybe 580.
16:25I get to the numbers.
16:27Yeah, it's a...
16:28Let me tell you what the most unfair thing was last night, because I just saw him.
16:32Them asking Daniel Johnson to hit late in that game.
16:35Dude, he got optioned yesterday.
16:37Twice.
16:37Probably was on a bus to Sacramento, and then they find out Encarnacion strains his oblique.
16:42Then he has to come back to San Francisco, and then they throw him into the game in the
16:49most important situation.
16:50That was the most unfair thing that I've seen happen.
16:53I've realized, you know, you're a professional player, you've got to go hit.
16:55But there was no chance that he was going to come through in that spot against Klosser.
17:00Dude, Guru does that every day.
17:03To Sacramento and back, sometimes back, and then he comes back again, and he always puts
17:08on a great show.
17:09That's true.
17:10All right, what number do you want on Eldridge?
17:12What do you want?
17:13What's that?
17:14Batting average.
17:15Yikes.
17:16174.
17:18Slugging.
17:21370.
17:22That's respectable.
17:23OPS is 620.
17:252 for 4 with a bomb last night.
17:27It's a good thing they got Devers.
17:282 for 4 with a bomb.
17:32Yeah.
17:33Where'd they play?
17:34By the way, he's got eight hits.
17:36He got eight hits.
17:38Oh, eight.
17:38And three of them are homers.
17:39Okay.
17:39All right.
17:40Where'd they play?
17:40Yeah.
17:41Salt Lake.
17:41Yet to play a home game, because they were supposed to play Tacoma and Sacramento, but
17:46the field needed a rest.
17:48So they ended up, I think it's going to end up being an 18-game road trip across three
17:53cities.
17:54And because we talked to Zach Bayrudi, play-by-play announcer, and he said, yeah, I'm going to a
17:59friend's house in Tacoma to use his washer and dryer, because I've got to do laundry.
18:03Life as a minor leaguer.
18:05Hey, did any of you guys watch the game on TV last night?
18:08All of it.
18:09Okay.
18:10Does anybody know if that old couple was able to get into the boat?
18:15Oh, the boat?
18:15Yes.
18:15Did you see?
18:16At the very end, you saw them go underneath the overwalk.
18:21What are you guys talking about?
18:22There was a couple out in the outfield.
18:24This was classic Krook and Kipe, where the cutaways in between pitches are of an old
18:32couple that are trying to get, what would you call that boat?
18:35What is it?
18:36What would you mean that?
18:37Like kind of a kayak.
18:37It was not, yeah, but a soft one.
18:39Right.
18:39It was like a kayak that you'd buy on Amazon.
18:43And they're walking down the rocks, like they're literally trying to make their way down
18:48the rocks.
18:48How old is this couple?
18:49Not old, but like...
18:51Like 70s?
18:51I mean...
18:52Late 60s?
18:53Okay.
18:53Yeah, maybe a little older than 70s.
18:55Shut up!
18:56Like, yeah, like they're both on intermittent fasting.
19:00And so they're walking down these rocks, and they're trying to get the boat out in the
19:05water, and the boat looks like it's kind of half stuck on the rocks and like bending in
19:08half.
19:09A woman is trying to find her path down the rocks and slipping and falling.
19:12She's slipping.
19:13Yeah, Krook and Kipe were in the zone.
19:16And then they cut back to it like 20 minutes later when it finally was like, they're setting
19:21sail, but it took them a while.
19:23That was why I was actually a little worried.
19:26It was very entertaining.
19:26Like, I was looking at the setup, and they clearly couldn't pull the kayak alongside,
19:31and I was like, they got trouble.
19:33Yeah, it was trouble.
19:34Krook's comment was the best.
19:36He's like, this is one of those where it was like, man, the idea sounded really good
19:39in the garage this morning.
19:42But anyway, yeah, I think they made it.
19:44They made it.
19:44I don't know if they're still married, but they made it into the water.
19:47Yeah, that was at risk of the relationship.
19:49Yeah, for sure.
19:50She did not look happy with what was going on.
19:53I recently had one on our trip to San Diego where you get the rental car, and you had checked
19:59the car seat, and so you get the car seat, and now I'm trying to install the car seat
20:03and the rental car.
20:03Oh, that's the worst.
20:04And, you know, the little girl is hanging in there great.
20:08She's starting to fuss, and we're 15 minutes in, and now tensions are high, and you're
20:12in a, like, the third floor garage, and you got carbon monoxide issues, and Miley needs
20:17a nap, and I'm just sweating, and now the profanity's flying back and forth, and yeah, so.
20:22Were you, are you latching him to those latches that are underneath the seat?
20:25You latch him and latch him.
20:27There's no, there's no hand pain.
20:29Like, uh.
20:30Oh my God, knuckles bleeding.
20:31What in the hell?
20:33Who came up with this system?
20:35Can't there be, like, a tensile device where you push a button, and it just goes, and it,
20:39like, hydraulically will pull?
20:41So what you have to do is you double latch, and then you thread the strap through, and
20:45now you're pulling with all your might, because if the seats jiggle jiggle, you can't use it.
20:50You gotta call me more and tell me about these, because these are the things that make me feel
20:54good about having teenagers.
20:55Oh yeah.
20:56Because the mental warfare that takes place with the teenagers has replaced the absolute knuckle bleeding
21:03of putting those kinds of seats in the car, so it helps me.
21:07I feel better about my life if you would tell me the crap that you're going through.
21:10And I'll tell you more tales of having to carry her up and down stairs at 56, because
21:16anytime you have to go upstairs or downstairs, I always ask her, do you want to walk or be
21:20carried?
21:21Carry!
21:22And you gotta carry her and six stuffed animals in a blanket.
21:24Yeah, you gotta stop asking that question and just make her walk.
21:27Well, sometimes she doesn't want to walk.
21:28Well, then, we stay right here atop of the stairs and you don't eat.
21:31Yeah, it's, I mean, you can hardline teenagers, but you're gonna starve a two and a half year
21:35old?
21:36No, you can't.
21:37Yeah, there you go.
21:37I mean, we're dealing with the same sort of pushback.
21:40Look what happened when the Red Sox tried to hardline Rafi Devers.
21:43He ended up on the other coast.
21:44Well, they blinked.
21:45The Red Sox blinked.
21:47And they shouldn't have blinked.
21:48Like, have you guys found anybody outside of Boston?
21:53Oh, look.
21:53Look at the TV, Stiney.
21:54See?
21:55There they go.
21:55Oh, I know.
21:56There they are.
21:56Oh, my God.
21:57We're watching the replay.
21:58That's them.
21:58That is them.
21:59Top of the seventh inning.
22:00I think it's a little too deflated, quite frankly.
22:03Well, yeah, no, that was part of the problem, because they were sitting there on the rocks
22:06for like a half hour.
22:08Gotcha.
22:08I decided to go home.
22:09Anyway, have you found anyone outside of Boston to say something bad about this guy?
22:13The only thing, we had June Lee on today, writes for Yahoo.
22:17He was the writer who wrote about the S show, and he just said, the worst thing he said
22:23was, Devers could have handled it better.
22:25I think most people would admit that.
22:27I think most people would say that he could have done something to defuse the situation.
22:32But at the end of the day, it seems like it was sparked by their treatment of him or
22:37his perceived disrespect.
22:39Yeah.
22:39I feel that about most things that I do in my life.
22:43The next day, I'm like, I probably could have handled that better.
22:46Like, that's not a big deal.
22:49And so, yeah, could he have?
22:51Sure.
22:51I guess he could have just been like, where do you want me, coach?
22:54It kind of reminded me of the Jimmy Ward thing, though.
22:56Like, Jimmy Ward didn't want to play the slot, because he was in a contract year, and it
23:00would get him, you know, deflate his value.
23:03But, like, eventually he did it.
23:05You know, it wasn't like he said, I ain't playing there.
23:08Because, okay, what are we going to do?
23:10Like, you're going to get cut.
23:11And you can't cut Rafi Devers, but I don't know if they would have cut Jimmy Ward, who
23:16eventually just gave in and went to the other position.
23:18That's at the core of all of this stuff.
23:20It's at the core, like all these players, it's at the core of why the Kaminga thing is
23:24kind of the way it is.
23:25Like, these guys are looking, they're looking at contracts.
23:28I think Devers was looking at even things like Hall of Fame.
23:32It's like, if I just become a DH, this devalues and lowers kind of who I am as a player.
23:39I don't know if that's ego run amok, but that's at the core of a lot of this stuff.
23:44Jimmy Butler, too.
23:46Well, and what's at the core of me right now is getting out of here, because I have a
23:49tee time, and it's 2-12.
23:51Oh, where?
23:52Over in Alameda.
23:53Okay.
23:54So I'm going to be leaving 95-7 the game.
23:58You're going to shoot 95?
24:00Well, I'll tell you tomorrow, Mark.
24:02And I'll tell you on 95-7 the game.
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