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00:00just imagine having your child murdered i had to place my hand on charlie's aorta where he'd
00:12been wounded i put my head back on his chest and that's when i realized that his heart was no
00:19longer beating and you can see three stab wounds clearly on there this was murder 17 year old
00:26victim 16 year old attacker what's unique is you've got a dad processing his grief and anger
00:39moments by moments on tick tock charismatic funny caring just a beautiful son in every way charlie
00:49was charlie was exceptionally talented footballer every time we got the ball you would assume
00:55something would come of it before we switched off charlie's life support machine i made the most
01:00important promise of my life not yet i would spend the rest of my life educating people
01:06about the dangers and immeasurable impacts of knife crime okay yeah
01:11the teenager who was stabbed as a party in a west sussex village over the weekend has been named
01:34charlie cosser was just 17 years old charlie's been in hospital about five hours and i'm there
01:42with my family and i just feel like i need to get out i pull my phone out and i start recording
01:48we love you so much and we're not going to leave you charlie we're not going to leave you at school
01:52you've had lots of bad injuries um but you're fighting really strong it's my way of talking to him
02:00as well as talking to him by his bed i'm talking to him into a screen but it's also helping me
02:05here we are charlie just come down to the seat it's really peaceful out here that's where you are
02:12in hospital on the seventh floor but this is brighton you can see the pier over there that comes out
02:17because everyone loves you and i want you to be able to watch this video yourself
02:32i'm james dunham i'm an itv reporter and i covered this story before any of this happened charlie's
02:39family barely had a presence on social media but as soon as martin started sharing his grief
02:45he became a tick tock sensation martin's reactions were so raw so visceral that it all felt like we
02:52were sharing in his grief and we were on this journey with him knife crime this is what it does this is
03:00what it does destroys families
03:09constant impact constantly filling that sadness and that loss of charlie with every
03:14breath i take and we take as a family my name is charlie bourne i am a podcaster and content creator
03:21my degree is in psychology and i've always been fascinated by true crime and i started posting
03:26on tiktok about three years ago i think the reason that martin's videos were going so viral was it was
03:33so evident that this was just an everyday normal family this could have been any one of us
03:38so charlie was born in guildford on the 28th of october 2005
04:02that's a nice one of you two i like that that was at your grandma's house every picture
04:13of charlie smiling he's cheeky look how he'd always lean his head to the side he did he was
04:21such a cheeky boy within three months i've named my little boy cheeks because he had just the cheekiest
04:29little grin charlie was a very typical teenage brother in the sense that we would fight and argue
04:41over stupid trivial things like food and my air pods give me the hat but he was really caring and always
04:51looked out for me charlie come in my room whenever he pleased even if i didn't want him to
04:59to ask for money me being older he knew a way to push my buttons look at this of adam and charlie
05:07big brother he's got his chelsea shirt on ads he could always get a reaction from me but i could never
05:12get one back from him adam get adam with him charlie was exceptionally talented footballer me and my dad
05:20had a lot of passion for football but charlie had the natural ability
05:36well i first met charlie when it was during lockdown i was in quite a low point before i met charlie i was
05:43always struggling in and out of school since childhood so didn't have really many friends and
05:48if i did i normally ruin the friendships but um i met charlie and he just gave me all the confidence i
05:55needed started playing football in school because he actually said i was actually all right and had a bit
06:03of potential i just thought of him as a very good footballer there's just like night and day difference
06:14between him and different kids every time he got the ball you would assume something would come of it
06:22he managed to get into the brentford academy which as a family we're so proud of him
06:27for being able to achieve that
06:34so charlie had left school got his gcse's charlie then managed to get this apprenticeship at charterhouse
06:39school as a grounds person horticultural type apprenticeship my goodness me charterhouse for
06:47for grounds and a place to work incredible so charlie was really happy happy at charterhouse
06:56i'm rebecca brady i'm a reporter for lbc radio and i covered the story
07:01as the summer began everything for charlie was looking really positive
07:04and he was excited about what he was going to do next but everything was about to change
07:21just beyond these trees is a field and the sons of the den owners of the farmhouse just over there
07:27decided to hold an end of summer term party there were going to be marquees to cover the dj
07:37my name is finbowls i was a dj on the night of the party and this party was one of the first
07:44opportunities i got to um be a dj really quite well put together for for an 18 to 20 year old
07:50arranged party it was supposed to be over 18s only charlie who was 17 heard about it and decided he
07:57wanted to go the night started with me arriving a little bit earlier than everyone else
08:05at least 100 teenagers and young people turned up from the surrounding towns and villages
08:16and as the numbers grew it was like wow this is going to be something quite quite fun and exciting
08:21everyone sort of really got into the night and enjoying themselves it was like a club night really
08:30finn who was the dj captured what was going on and filmed himself on his mobile phone
08:40one lad did agree to be security but a knife was brought in there was lots of alcohol at a party
08:46where there were a large number of under 18s and then as the night went on you saw people getting
08:51aggy and whether it was the alcohol in people's systems because there were drinks there a lot of
08:56people were getting quite anxious and then i spot charlie and he was in some sort of discomfort he was
09:06sort of like crawling out of the tent then suddenly it was a case of the someone coming over to the
09:14microphone saying someone's been stabbed calls went out to emergency services and the police were first
09:24to arrive including an armed response vehicle police found charlie very weak but able to give details of
09:30his name and his parents my name's monique smith i'm an ambulance practitioner for platinum ambulance service
09:38and i was there on the night
09:43there was lots of police officers i believe they may have been questioning party goers
09:50and the mood had gone from happy to everyone running away crying screaming upset
09:56my name's lee carr i'm a paramedic for southeast coast ambulance service
10:04when i got to charlie there were a lot of people around so it was quite obvious that charlie had been
10:09critically injured my colleague had begun to assess him he was able to answer questions relating to to
10:16pain they were small wounds but they had a big impact and i could tell that just by the color of his
10:22skin he was very ash kind of looking color very gray pale he's beyond point of pain now because he's
10:28lost so much blood our priority at that point was to begin stabilizing charlie and then working out
10:35a way of extricating charlie from the field up to the waiting ambulance in an incident like this where
10:41life is in the balance it's really important to get the family to the victim as soon as possible
10:47i was lying in my bed um and then i woke up to the sound of the door being banged on really really
10:55hard bang bang bang bang martin no i know tara i know it's the door the door's gone why is the door
11:02being banged my head starts racing i instantly jumped out my bed tara's at the top of the stairs
11:09with eloise my 15 year old daughter i opened the door there's two police officers there oh god are you
11:14martin my god they know my name yes i'm martin your son charlie he's been stabbed he's critical
11:20the police officer tells us that he will be driving us to the hospital where they're taking charlie
11:27so i grab some contact lenses my shoes a charger and my phone don't have time to put my shoes on just
11:34run out into the rain and darkness into the police car so the journey to the nearest major trauma unit
11:47is quite a journey probably over 30 minutes uh on blue lights we're in the car my dad is like gagging
11:57out the window and my mum's crying and holding on to my dad across my lap it's gonna be all right
12:02it's gonna be all right and i remember my phone going off and it was mum and she said you need to
12:07get to the royal sussex in brighton five minutes into the journey and everything just came to a
12:14halt and we had to pull over charlie had gone into cardiac arrest we heard things coming over on the
12:24radio that they were working on charlie in the ambulance the police car containing the family on
12:32the way to the hospital was diverted to meet up with the ambulance containing charlie
12:39we had to open his chest up on the roadside and everyone had to be involved
12:46when they arrived at the ambulance the family were desperate to get out to see charlie
12:51but an officer asked him to wait in the car while he just went to check
12:56police officers held charlie's ribs up and under the guidance of the hems doctor
13:01i had to place my hand on charlie's aorta where he'd been wounded
13:08the officer having seen the condition charlie was in returned to the car and asked the family to
13:13remain there the police had locked us in the car they wouldn't let us out and i'm like i want to get
13:19out the car i want to see charlie no you've got to stay in here whatever state he's in i just want
13:23to see my little boy once we got charlie's heart beating again uh we loaded charlie back onto the
13:31ambulance it was quite a nerve-wracking journey to hospital at any moment charlie could have gone
13:37back into cardiac arrest it was just i i guess almost a dreamlike you know
13:55i'm shaking gripping onto my mum's hand and we make our way into the hospital
14:02and we're taken into a very small room i remember parking up at the hospital i remember dad turning
14:14to us and just we were just holding hands walking to find uh where charlie was in intensive care
14:22and what we were greeted with no one should have to see no parent no brother no sister
14:32we just need you to get better charlie but you're fighting really strong
14:54there's people with you all the time who are treating you and looking after you and loving you
14:58charlie's just been taken in to the royal sussex county hospital
15:06it's been a horrendous horrendous number of hours so charlie had tubes coming out from him
15:14from head to toe and he had no blood you could see the blood at the end of his bed
15:19um from all the transfusions he had to have and we weren't expecting charlie to be in that state
15:30i am very nervous to hold his hand because i don't want to hurt him
15:34any further but i quickly am reassured that i can't hurt him anymore just by holding his hand so
15:40so so i held his hand tightly i also gripped his pinky was that something that we did
15:51the nurses the doctors um i just remember them being so gentle with him so tentative we're all here
15:58and we're praying for you you just got to get better mate because this just shouldn't be happening to you
16:04all the hope and dreams and aspirations charlie has had in his life and we've had for him
16:17kind-hearted charismatic funny caring just a beautiful son in every way charlie was
16:25he's grown up in milford which is a lovely area it's it's very rural it's just a small quaint little
16:37village and i've never not felt safe in milford it's 45 minutes between london and the coast down
16:45in portsmouth it's a lovely place to bring up our little boy and you just don't hear things like
16:50this happening in a in a little place like like milford
17:08i'm alan gardner casey prosecution barrister in this case i think the initial challenge for the
17:14police when they arrived on the scene was the confusion about what had happened
17:25it was chaos the people all over the place they needed containing
17:30really quickly and there was an urgency to get hold of the offender
17:36at first light a detailed search was carried out of the area
17:39there was very little forensic evidence in this case the knife was never found but there were
17:48loads of potential witnesses
17:53so initially some of the witnesses were reluctant to engage with the police
17:58some were able to name two potential offenders two boys who'd arrived at the party together
18:04were being mentioned one of those was euro verebris he was 16 years old
18:16euro went to the same secondary school as me at the wheel and he was in the year below me so he was
18:23a year younger i can see how people saw him as an intimidating person he goes to the gym and he was
18:30he was a lot bigger than the other kids you kind of saw him as quite a dominant character no one would really approach him really
18:44we learned during the trial that yura had a difficult upbringing but he also had a reputation
18:49for being aggressive to those who tried to stand up to him which might explain why some of the
18:55witnesses were reluctant to speak to officers police went to several addresses that were connected
19:00to yura but they were unable to find him it turned out that he had gone to a toby carvery in crawley
19:06for what would have been his final meal he was there with his stepfather and his mother when we found
19:11out that yura had gone for a toby carvery meal when charlie was fighting for his life in hospital
19:19that was like quite literally disgusting to all of us around lunchtime that day yura's mother called the
19:25police and said she was going to bring her son in when she arrived here to horsham police station
19:29officers came out and arrested yura for the attempted murder of charlie cosser
19:39so we're there just in hospital these two and a half days just praying everything's going to be all
19:52right they were going to take him for a brain scan
19:56the consultancy came and said that the brain scan had shown fluid on charlie's brain
20:06and that they would have to drain that fluid he might not survive that surgery
20:10he survived the night
20:20saying we didn't we didn't leave him he survived the night and they came to us the next day
20:26and they said that the tears would just confirm what they already knew
20:30that was when i thought charlie's not going to make this
20:39they said it just confirmed and that we were going to have to switch his life support machine off
20:47the consultant sits down with us and tells us that we need to prepare to say our goodbyes to charlie
20:53and i remember us all standing around the hospital bed my dad and me one side and my sister and mum the other side
21:06and then it was time
21:10to say to say goodbye to charlie
21:17and it turned off his life support machine
21:24i can't even really describe how it feels to basically watch your brother die
21:31i put my head on his chest and i was listening to his heartbeat for the last time basically
21:38i looked at his face and i could see like the color draining from his face and he just became even more
21:48more pale than he was before and then i was being told that i needed to
21:55potentially step back because i'm in such a state crying hysterically
22:02um but i i'm refusing because i don't want to leave charlie's side in his last moment so i
22:08i i put my head back on his chest and that's when i realized that his heart was no longer beating
22:24i just held charlie's hand and i just made him a promise
22:33and it was the most important promise of my life so i promised him justice
22:37but the main promise that i made charlie was that i would spend the rest of my life educating
22:43people about the dangers and the measurable impacts of knife crime
22:46i felt so isolated and alone in the immediate aftermath and i just recorded into into the phone
22:57it's nine o'clock the day after charlie's died
23:01eloise last night just screamed for about half an hour as we got home
23:07once martin started posting his videos on tiktok he soon gained a lot of attention
23:20but because police had arrested their prime suspect quite quickly there wasn't the usual tiktok
23:25speculation about who the killer might be or where they might be hiding but instead we got raw unfolding
23:32agony so you have moments where you think you're doing really well you're doing all right
23:36um and then the reality of what's happened just hits you again just like a bust bang bang knocks you back
23:49it's every parent's worst nightmare your teenage son goes out to a party and doesn't make it back alive
24:06the moment charlie died it became a murder investigation this is a step change for the
24:16police it makes it a major incident and it did mean that yura had to be rearrested for the murder of charlie
24:22this was murder child on child 17 year old victim 16 year old attacker detectives need to establish
24:50the evidence the evidence in the finest detail what happened leading up to the party what happened
24:56at the party and then what happened after the incident occurred
25:06charlie was in good spirits because he was due to go on holiday on the monday with his friends
25:14to xanti and then on the saturday he mentioned that there was a party that he wanted to go to to
25:22see his friends that weren't going away with him for charlie's parents that came totally out of the blue
25:27ironically they were reassured that he was coming to a private party rather than going on a night out
25:32in guilt which he had talked about and for them that seemed like the scarier option trouble does happen
25:37there you know kids are out there they're having drinks you know it it does put that little bit of fear
25:42and to you i thought actually we both relaxed a little bit because he was going to a party at a house
25:47rather than being in guildford
25:53on the night of the party yura and his friends turned up looking for trouble
26:02the pair of them had a shoulder bag that they'd been switching between them throughout the evening
26:06a witness overheard them make reference to getting the shank get the shank in other words get the knife
26:18the witness looked up euro's friend held up the shoulder bag while they made eye contact
26:23and the witness says she understood the knife to be in that bag
26:27if somebody brings a knife to a party that's likely to be because they are prepared to use it as a
26:36weapon a witness passed three boys and overheard one of them saying that they wanted to stab someone
26:44word went round that there was a knife but no one raised the alarm
26:48several witnesses said that yura and his friend had been drinking a litre of vodka half a litre each
26:57and had become quite drunk a girl walked up to one of the friends charlie had gone to the party with
27:06she pointed in yura's direction and said somebody had been creeping her out and trying to touch her up
27:12charlie's friend went across and asked him to stop it or leave the party yura said all right mate
27:20but yura and his friend didn't leave it made yura varibras rather angry at being accused of
27:28behaving improperly towards one of the girls shortly before midnight there was a second allegation a girl
27:35approached charlie and his friend and this time they both went over to ask yura and his friend to leave
27:42the dance floor was crowded at winstead they saw yura throw a punch at charlie and charlie fought back
27:51a ruckus erupted charlie's friend had pinned yura's mate to the ground and was beating him up
27:59people pulled him off and everyone was focused on that fight rather than what was happening with charlie
28:04yura had a knife and he reached for that knife took it out and used it to stab charlie three times
28:24after the attack a witness saw yura with blood all over his trousers and heard him say repeatedly
28:30i've stabbed someone i saw charlie crawling out of the tent and then um it would have been like a
28:36two to three minute interval to when they were walking away before the police could speak to
28:44yura and his friends they had left the scene
28:48yura had made arrangements with a female friend of his who'd been at the party for her mother to
28:54collect them
28:58yura was taken to the girl's house where he burned his blood-stained clothing in a fire pit in her garden
29:06the prosecution say that was a clear attempt to destroy evidence he never returned home that night
29:12the reality is there may have been none of charlie's blood at all on yura varibris's clothes yura varibris
29:17himself had suffered some wounds to his own hand in the act of stabbing charlie he was bleeding himself
29:24so the blood was quite likely to be his own blood the contact between yura varibris and charlie must have
29:32been very brief a matter of a few seconds experts in relation to many stab wounds would say many of them
29:42don't immediately bleed of course we don't know because the clothes were destroyed the evidence from
29:47the pathologist was that the fatal injury which charlie sustained was an injury to his aorta
30:00initially yura pleaded guilty to murder
30:03when we were told he'd pled guilty it was it was relief it was a real relief where a defendant enters
30:14a guilty plea there is then no need for a jury trial but then in october 2023 something very unusual
30:23happened something i'd never come across in my professional career an application had gone in
30:30for him to vacate his plea his guilty plea
30:40the judge was being asked to accept that yura had been given poor legal advice initially and wanted to
30:45change his plea from guilty to not guilty if she accepted that the coser family would be put through
30:51a full murder trial a judge was to decide at a special hearing at lewis crown court in east sussex
30:58six months before the main case was heard in the court in brighton as far as we were concerned
31:05he'd already been found guilty he was guilty that was torture it was absolute torture
31:11just imagine having your child murdered just imagine having to go and pick up the clothes they wore the
31:30night they were stabbed so it's not a son coming back home it's his clothes if you look here
31:36you can see this is charlie's t-shirt the t-shirt he wore and you can see three stab wounds clearly on
31:44there but actually they're really small knife wounds but yet they caused catastrophic damage
31:50the pillars there is where lewis crown court is and just before the hearing there responses to
32:04martin's tiktok campaign were mounting
32:07what really i guess moved me was how quickly the views went up on the video on tiktok like this was
32:29reaching a lot of people i'm going to tag martin's account in this video so you can click on the tag
32:34and go straight across and follow the coser family are going to be without charlie they're going to be
32:40without charlie because someone decided to take a knife out and use it
32:43and that month martin's tireless campaigning online was helping to push the story to the top of the
32:59news running orders first tonight the father of a teenager who died after he was stabbed at a party
33:06in sussex on the day of the plea hearing martin was to learn that the very qualities that make him a
33:12good campaign leader here for us look all got our hoodies on all his friends family could land him
33:21in trouble he and his friends showed up to court wearing matching hoodies with logos on all here for
33:26charlie all here for my little boy not only did the judge allow yura to change his plea to not guilty
33:34but martin was warned staging such an emotive display at the subsequent trial could influence the jury
33:41and so he was told not to do it again we're just reflecting on yesterday really tough day in lewis crown
33:49court um and we now have to face the trial that was tough for the police too as they thought they
33:56had a guilty plea the not guilty plea means that everything the prosecution presents would be
34:02challenged by the defense and so extra evidence was needed
34:15it was six months before yura's trial started at the court in brighton and martin either forgot or ignored
34:22the warnings about demonstrations of support we did turn up actually on the first day of the murder trial
34:30wearing our hoodies
34:34not for confrontation because we've carried ourselves with dignity throughout
34:37but just through support and love for our child we were quickly told they needed to be removed
34:42the really important thing from the prosecution team's points of view is to avoid anything being said or
34:53done which might in any way influence or affect a jury's assessment of the evidence
35:01so hi we've had day one in court and we're absolutely drained but i really really really really full on
35:08day sitting two meters away from yura was really unsettling to be that close to my brother's murderer
35:21i don't think any of us appreciated how very difficult it would be and what they're hearing in
35:26their court case is something that you'd never imagine in a million years that you'd ever have to go and
35:31listen to i've been following him for the last couple of weeks and i've been watching him live
35:35normally from outside the trial police had had to track down everyone who was at the party but
35:41everyone's recollections differed so that was a real challenge for the prosecution most of the
35:46evidence was from witnesses but there was detailed forensic evidence about the weapon that had been
35:52used which had a thin blade eight centimeters long with a single edge yura had cuts on two fingers and
36:00the palm of his left hand which were consistent with being caused by a knife
36:05so there was a turning point in the court you could feel the atmosphere just just change
36:10witnesses said he was covered in blood he was in a trance-like state and he said six or seven times
36:15i've stabbed someone
36:19when that was heard out in court i looked straight at the jury and they were all in shock like the rest of us
36:25there was another turning point with the same witness yura was seen fiddling with his phone
36:30the witnesses saw him turn his snapchat onto ghost mode in other words to conceal his identity on
36:39snapchat and also switched off location services on on his mobile phone who's going to turn off the
36:45location when they've just been at a party for no reason there is a reason and it's because he stabbed
36:51someone i looked at the jurors and you can see you can see their reactions there's a couple of sighs
37:01there was one particularly damning piece of evidence which was played to the jury and
37:06it's too sensitive to show now in public but in it a girl was recording what she thought was her
37:11friend on the dance floor in fact she captured the moments of the attack it showed uh charlie falling
37:19to the ground and it showed one of charlie's friends intervening and grappling with yura to move him
37:26away from charlie and it was during the course of that fight that charlie was fatally stabbed
37:36but the biggest stir for the jury was caused when they heard that yura had
37:42arrived at the girl's house and then burnt his clothes
37:48we all thought hopefully the jury will take in this information
37:51and realize that he is 100 guilty because who would just burn their clothes for no reason
38:03the girl who took river's back home pleaded guilty in the youth court to assist in an offender
38:08she was given a referral order the mother was arrested on suspicion the same offense but no action was
38:14taken
38:18yura varibras decided uh not to go into the witness box to give evidence in his trial the jury retired to
38:26consider the verdict on the third of june 2024
38:35when the jury went out for deliberation we stayed right by the court pretty much all times
38:45i've had an incredible amount of support and following on tick tock and facebook so
38:50there were people who'd been messaging me privately lots and lots of messages please let us know when
38:55the verdict comes through they're going for a trial for the murder of their kids so it's going to be bad
39:00no matter what but you know thoughts are with you as well as probably from most of our followers as well
39:05and then we got the call from my dad saying that they've reached a verdict
39:18guys all very emotional here we've just gone in we've had the verdict
39:22and he's guilty on both counts
39:25kill with the first degree murder kill with taking a weapon there
39:33he killed us zombies kill we
39:35the video of martin announcing the verdict just absolutely blew up on tick tock i was in
39:56tears watching it because it's just such a raw reaction
40:11the fact that we've had a real result the teenager who actually was responsible for stabbing
40:29a teenager charlie cossa to death has been found guilty of course up until this point nobody knew
40:35who the killer was yura verebrus was 16 at the time of the killing he was 17 when the trial started so
40:43he couldn't be named as the media we were going to have to apply to have his anonymity lifted
40:48we had heard that it would be quite likely that his name would be released
40:53but we weren't 100 sure so we were all holding on like it's going to happen it's going to happen
40:58yes it's already out there the evil monster the murder of my son is called ura verebrus that's
41:08his name and um yes his family over there and uh everyone needs to know that okay shown no remorse
41:14hasn't even flinched we haven't done sensing yet but he is responsible for the murder of our little
41:20boy charlie where's tara's anyone who's gone for a coffee mate oh has she yeah she weren't in a good
41:27way mate no when martin was finally able to name ura verebrus as his son's killer there was just this
41:35absolute outpouring of support
41:37a boy who stabbed a 17 year old on a school party dance floor has been unmasked today
42:02this monster is called ura verebrus
42:07is as of today the courts they've allowed the name to be released there was a slew of racist
42:15tiktoks trolling yura claiming he was a ukrainian refugee but he wasn't in fact he was brought up
42:21in this country later that day yura was sentenced to life in prison serving a minimum of 16 years
42:28yura showed no emotion as he was being sentenced but as he was being led to the cells
42:33he raised his fist in a salute to his father so we talk about it being a life sentence the life
42:39sentence is ours that's the life sentence
42:41the funeral at charterhouse school was huge more than 800 people showed up
43:01prior to charlie's funeral i'd never been to a funeral um and yeah it was tough we got all our
43:17suits fitted together me and my mates because we knew we sort of had to be there for each other
43:22once we sat down it was just tears flooding from every every every way you turned it's just everyone was crying
43:33that was really hard
43:34you shouldn't have had to be at my son's funeral
43:44well i've missed playing football with him i miss his smile i miss
43:50his cheeky side i miss him trying to push my buttons
43:53but yeah i miss i miss him look so i set about putting the wheels in motion
44:05setting up a charity it's charlie's promise
44:14and the talks that i go out and give are to prevent and make a difference to knife crime in this country
44:22i can guarantee that this man's story will educate any young person in any classroom any youth club
44:30i want to talk about the impacts of knife crime and while there's air in my lungs i will continue to
44:37tell the story of my little boy and how incredible he was and make a difference in this country to
44:43prevent other families like ours going through this misery john he had that effect on people
44:51well you met him once felt like you were learning for a lifetime
45:00so that's why i do these videos
45:01charlie did know he'd been stabbed did he know he was going to die was he scared was he calling for us
45:13it feels like we're in this lonely bubble that no one else understands
45:18and they're just never going to understand unless they've been through something like this
45:22it just feels like we're not really there
45:30every morning i pick up my phone and i send charlie a message it's a blue heart love you blue heart
45:38and i guess it's still my way of communicating with charlie and most of the time it is just love you
45:45sometimes it's miss you
45:54so
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