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00:00So we're here in Shrewsbury at Canoe Poké, an amazing, vibrant, colourful restaurant.
00:06Who have we got, guys? You're the bosses. You're the creators. Who are you?
00:11Go on, you go first.
00:12Oh, me first.
00:14I'm George.
00:18George and...
00:19Katie.
00:20Katie.
00:21And, guys, tell us Canoe Poké. I mean, first off, I've learnt it's Poké, isn't it?
00:26And Poké, it's got a meaning. What is a Poké?
00:30It's a Hawaiian word, so it comes from slice or dice.
00:33So it's a Hawaiian-style salad with rice base at the bottom,
00:37and then lots of different fruits, vegetables, ferments, pickles,
00:40a main bit in the middle, and then sauce, garnish.
00:44Yeah, vibrant, punchy flavours.
00:47So talk us through kind of the ethos of your restaurant, then.
00:50What's it all about?
00:51It's vegan and gluten-free.
00:53And nut-free.
00:54Yeah, so, yeah, just talk us through that, then.
00:57So we started as a takeaway from home.
01:00It wasn't quite nut-free then, but we've always been gluten-free.
01:03You know, with the rice base, that's kind of how we advertise.
01:07And we make everything from scratch,
01:09so it's really nice to know everything that goes into the food.
01:12But by niching down, being gluten-free, nut-free, vegan,
01:15it makes it more accessible.
01:17We're both vegan ourselves and have been for four years.
01:19Yeah.
01:21So, you know, providing things that we really love.
01:24Yeah.
01:25And you even make your own ice cream.
01:27I couldn't believe that when I came in.
01:29I thought perhaps you'd bought some vegan ice cream in,
01:31but no, it's your creation.
01:33That's right, isn't it?
01:33Everything is homemade.
01:35So we're like, you can buy anything in.
01:37A lot of R&D.
01:39Yeah.
01:39Yeah.
01:39Just to make life difficult for ourselves.
01:42Well, even the colourful decor, that was homemade.
01:45That's your creation, isn't it?
01:46Yeah, it's an ongoing process.
01:48Yeah, well, I mean, it's beautiful.
01:50And it's quite large.
01:51How many people can you seat here?
01:53So we're a 36-seat restaurant.
01:55Yeah.
01:56Upstairs, downstairs.
01:57And we can do, like, really long tables as well.
01:59So we do, like, big party events.
02:01Oh, yeah, so people can kind of almost book a little space
02:04for an event, a birthday.
02:05Yeah.
02:05Yeah, we had a group of 36, 38, a couple of weeks ago.
02:10Yeah.
02:10So we booked the entire place out, and we did, you know,
02:14full menu and drinks and everything else.
02:16Yeah.
02:17So it started as a business from home then?
02:19Yeah.
02:20Yeah.
02:20So we actually met each other in lockdown.
02:22Oh.
02:22And then shortly after, we set up.
02:25Yeah, during the second lockdown.
02:26Yeah, and we talked about the idea.
02:28Yeah.
02:28And then we set the business up from our home kitchen originally,
02:30doing, like, takeaway.
02:32So how would that, so were you delivering out from home?
02:34Is that how it was working?
02:35Yeah, literally from our home kitchen.
02:37Yeah, we were just using Shrewsbury's as our delivery platform.
02:40Yeah.
02:41So, yeah, we've used them since day one.
02:44Yeah.
02:44So, like, George's background is, like, chefing and restaurants,
02:47and I'm, like, an artist.
02:49Yeah.
02:49I'm a promoter, so I can, so together we're, like,
02:52combined forces.
02:53Yeah.
02:53Creation.
02:54Yeah.
02:55Yeah, well, it works a treat.
02:57I mean, you know, the decor's there,
02:58and then you've got the food, so yeah, perfect.
03:00Talk us through some other bits on your menu then,
03:02some kind of, you know, favourite dishes
03:03that you kind of want to highlight.
03:06Oh, my favourite poke bowl is the fire bowl.
03:09So that's crispy fried tofu with our own kind of fire sauce.
03:13We make our own sriracha as well,
03:14so slightly fermented chilli sauce,
03:16but lots of different kind of pickles,
03:18adding the kimchi as well,
03:20that are spicy corn cheese.
03:21Yeah, hit on that one.
03:22Yeah, yeah.
03:23Yeah.
03:24I think mine might be, like,
03:24the vegan chicken and waffle,
03:25because we make all our own meats as well,
03:27so marinate and TVP and, like,
03:32either fry it or put it in the oven.
03:35Yeah.
03:35Yeah, that's, yeah,
03:36waffle with a kind of salsa
03:37and then miso caramel sauce.
03:39Yeah.
03:40Yeah.
03:40All homemade.
03:42I think being a man who has a vegan wife,
03:46I thought vegan restaurants were just for vegan people.
03:49They're not, are they?
03:51No.
03:51You know, I've had some of the best meals
03:53I've ever had in vegan restaurants
03:55when I've kind of been in the oven.
03:57It was a real eye-opener.
03:59So I guess that's something you'd like
04:00to kind of get out there
04:01and stress to people, really.
04:03Yeah, I mean,
04:04you'd never have boiled chicken breast
04:06with nothing else,
04:07so all seasonings are vegan anyways.
04:09Yeah.
04:10There's so much you can do with food
04:12more than just looking at a vegetable
04:14as the secondary or tertiary kind of part to a dish.
04:18I think a lot more thought goes into it.
04:21That's what I think, yeah, yeah.
04:22A bit more understanding
04:23about how things work and why
04:24and, yeah, it kind of brings a bit more excitement
04:28and enjoyment in the kitchen as well.
04:30Yeah.
04:30It makes it a lot more creative
04:31having these, like, constraints.
04:33Yeah.
04:33And, like, being gluten-free,
04:35that comes with its, like, own problems,
04:38but also it's great.
04:40It's easy getting full
04:42but not heavy as well.
04:44Yeah, yeah.
04:45And one thing I've learned as well,
04:47that people who are gluten-free,
04:50like, as in full-on gluten-free,
04:51they very much know
04:53they need to be not eating gluten.
04:55But actually, a lot of us
04:56would find that we would actually benefit
04:59from eating potentially less or no gluten.
05:02You know, we might have a little niggle
05:04and we don't necessarily think,
05:05well, that's because I've eaten gluten.
05:07But often, you know,
05:08that can be a factor, can't it?
05:09So it's quite a good thing to try, really.
05:11Yeah, and particularly, like,
05:13some bread out there that are so processed.
05:16Just having a variety and a diet,
05:18so not just eating the same thing day in, day out.
05:20You know, eating 30 different fruits,
05:24vegetables, pulses.
05:27Yeah, it's not too difficult
05:28to squeeze them into your diet
05:29once you kind of branch out
05:31and try different cuisines,
05:33not just, you know,
05:34the same pasta dish day in day out.
05:35Yeah, yeah, definitely.
05:37And puddings,
05:38you got a decent selection of puddings
05:39on the vegan gluten-free, yeah?
05:41Yeah.
05:41Well, our homemade ice creams
05:43is probably, like, the most popular.
05:44Yeah.
05:45We do, like, four flavours at a time.
05:46Yeah.
05:46And we sell them on our takeaway as well.
05:49So you can just come and grab that any day.
05:51Mochi donuts.
05:52Mochi donuts.
05:53They're really popular.
05:54Yeah, little chewy balls.
05:55I love those, actually.
05:56They're really good.
05:57And then we do waffles as well,
05:59which is gluten-free,
05:59which I think people would quite like.
06:01It's quite hard to do that.
06:02Yeah.
06:03Cool.
06:04And in terms of kind of expanding
06:07and moving on from the restaurant,
06:09you also do a bit of catering
06:11outside of the venue, yeah?
06:13Yeah.
06:14Yeah cater.
06:15Cater weddings, parties.
06:17All sorts, really.
06:18Yeah.
06:19But it's kind of, from our menu,
06:20a lot of ideas from that,
06:22all sorts, don't we?
06:23Yeah, comprise.
06:24But more the nice thing
06:25about the fusion thing
06:26is, you know,
06:27pulling in flavours
06:28from anywhere that kind of borders
06:30the Pacific,
06:30and that's, like,
06:31a third of the world,
06:33you know, America's, Asia.
06:35So when we cater events,
06:36basically, yeah,
06:37we can do all sorts.
06:38And obviously,
06:39being gluten-free and vegan
06:40and nut-free,
06:41it can be really accessible
06:42for people.
06:43Yeah.
06:43Yeah.
06:44We recently catered one
06:45a couple of weeks ago,
06:45didn't we?
06:46And there was quite a lot
06:47of allergies to cater for.
06:49Yeah.
06:49We managed to do it
06:50really easily
06:50with what we're doing.
06:52Yeah.
06:52Yeah.
06:53Futs everyone at ease.
06:54Directly.
06:55Directly.
06:56Fantastic.
06:56Well, we wish you all
06:57the best going forward.
06:58It's certainly
06:59the most colourful
07:00restaurant I've been into.
07:02It's gorgeous inside here.
07:03That's what we're trying to do.
07:04Yeah, it's fantastic.
07:05Well done, guys.
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