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00:00Hello Joel, we've spoken to Julie Bates and she has agreed to be your
00:23appropriateness out of this way good job thank you have have you spoken to my dad
00:42tell me you're not going to the station no I'm going to the hospital look I know what
00:54you must think Sharon and I don't blame her but I love her all right and I've got to be
01:00there for her oh that's up to Vicky but if she says she's done then you better hear
01:04it oh and that son of yours will never set foot in my house again you got it
01:17can you believe a kid did all that damage I thought it was a stranger that had attacked
01:23I know I know do you think Tommy what no yeah but when he was going through that bad yeah but it
01:28wasn't like that I know you listen he wasn't involved all right tell me up no not yet darling
01:36no you did good you should be proud of him yeah we are we really are in my cat yeah yeah the police
01:42are going to interview him later maybe they know more maybe Joel's told him something oh no my bad
01:47he is up all right buddy fancy a bowl of sugar with some milk on top of it you're talking about me
01:53something about the police they're coming to speak to you later you don't think they're going to
02:03arrest me do you that little girl has been through so much losing her mum and then her dad going to
02:12prison the last thing she needs the very last thing she needs is someone coming in and pulling the rug
02:17from underneath her again i'm just saying just saying i mean she's right to be fair though i made a
02:28complete pegs here of it i'm sorry darling i just wish i could make it up to him to both of them
02:35coffee please cheer yourself up sweetheart
02:40oi teddy you said you'd give me a quote last night i've still heard nothing do you want my business or
02:46what i'm sorry i've had a lot on well come on how much ballpark 60. 60 grand well plus the v18 plus v18
02:57i'll tell you can't afford that that is extortionate for taking out a couple of stud boys and the rest
03:03you'll be surprised what these old houses turn up but please be my guest get some more quotes oh trust me
03:09are you gonna eat that or just destroy it is it harry what harry the reason you're in this mood
03:23i'm not in a mood is he still in cardiff have you called him obviously not why not because i don't chase
03:33after boys maybe harry harry thinks that you're super chilled and i'm not that bothered about him exactly
03:42that's exactly the point what
03:45how's your bellyache bad well hopefully you feel all right for school tomorrow eh fingers crossed
04:07lex look i'm really sorry i didn't tell you about me and your dad splitting up it's fine it's not
04:16fine though is it you're happy he's happy and apparently dad's happy too so whatever it's just
04:24it's complicated our relationships are complicated yep it is okay to feel sad you know i feel sad
04:33not that sad obviously your dad's still your dad duh and you know when he gets out of prison he'll be in
04:42your life as as will i and maybe one day johnny what if you don't want johnny around right now then
04:49that's fine obviously so you'll break up with him i'm not saying that if you had to choose who would you
04:57choose me or him i have to think about that no no you you obviously
05:08he's loaded right
05:09he can get us a takeaway for lunch
05:16that was your bellyache
05:20just call him
05:20i can't i can't it's too needy
05:28anna it's ringing give me the phone back give me the phone they're still ringing
05:36yo it's harry voicemail sorry
05:43hi harry it's gina do you remember me yeah i just wanted to say that i hope that waitress down in
05:47cardiff was worth it i actually might go out myself tonight and find a new side piece because
05:52that's all you were
05:58what that was a bit no no no you were right thanks and i do i feel like much better now
06:04oh so tonight you're in yeah i don't know if i will see you at harry's barn at like lunch lunch
06:12yeah i fancy starting early
06:18hi harry it's gina do you remember me yeah i just wanted to say that i hope that waitress down in
06:22cardiff was worth it i actually might go out myself tonight and find a new side piece because that's
06:27all you were oh man she might actually like you you know they only act like that one they do
06:45please just let me go man all right i've learned my lesson i'm not going to do anything else stupid
06:50just please let me go all right okay hey look just just tell me where that camera's linked to you
06:58hmm or the girlfriend can pay you back with sleeping this around the block while you stay here
07:07fun
07:22our boy yes
07:37i am so sorry
08:00i am so sorry
08:07come
08:19excuse me uh you haven't seen mrs c have you you've already asked me that have i i'm really sorry
08:28so what did you say she's probably in the laundrette she told you that did she no you told me that's
08:35that's where she works i'm just putting two and two together
08:38yeah okay so um sorry where where is the laundry
08:44what are you looking at
08:45okay just you kid okay well can you stop because it's freaking casablanca great film i'm free bro
08:52take him home i don't know him i don't either but he keeps asking me about someone called mrs c and
09:05he's got egg and he's got egg down his front making my heart egg i can't handle it just take him home
09:10please and then i'll come back shall i i'll be at the bar so i'll be doing this out of the goodness of
09:16my heart with my heart with no reward whatsoever hey i didn't say there'd be no reward just might be a little delayed
09:22hello should we get you home then mr orson wells
09:35that's who you remind me of taller younger orson wells orson who wells is he fit he's dead now sadly
09:48i bet he was fit right jasmine yeah it's uncanny yes stunning resemblance oh thank you very much
09:57sure i'm supposed to make from mr c here no she said sorry to disappoint but she had to cancel oh right
10:04is she yeah she's there yeah of course he he hit me and he didn't even look shocked it was like it made him
10:17feel proud he is a psychopath boss he needs to be behind bars
10:27what
10:35nothing
10:39have you seen him no have you spoken to him
10:47i can't be as appropriate i don't anyway you know i'm a witness
10:53julie bates is doing it
10:56poor cat
10:57but you you wouldn't have wanted to though would you no
11:03no
11:12i am gonna have to see him at some point though aren't i
11:14and i am so sorry
11:23have been there
11:24i did everything i could
11:30what do you want me to do what do you want me to disown him
11:36let the people who were trained to deal with him deal with him
11:40i'm still his dad are you defending him no no
11:49who is it
12:00who is it it's um it's julie
12:02it's um it's julie
12:08oh
12:12hello julie hi
12:18ross
12:20i was
12:21uh
12:22yeah i thought i'd give you a quick call to um update you as to how joel's getting on
12:24you know. Yeah, so he's, um, okay, he's had DNA, samples taken, hair, um, blood, uh, nail
12:33scrapings and hand swabs. He's just waiting to be interviewed now. Oh, he's had some
12:38weed mix and some juice as well. Well, what? He's not five. Look, I'm sorry, that was...
12:45It's okay. I understand, Ross. Do ya? You do realise I've taken the day off work to be
12:52here, don't ya? Taken time away from being with Nigel. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Look, I am.
13:00Um, um, can I, um, can I ask you something, please? Yeah. Um, I mean, you know kids, right?
13:12I mean, you talk about his age. Yeah. Do you, um, I mean, do you, do you think he, he, he could
13:24be like a psychopath or something?
13:30Ross, um, I'm not trained to diagnose children. I'm not a psychologist. Um, anyway, I don't
13:39really believe in labels. I don't see my students that way. I see young people who often struggle
13:51to make sense of a very confusing world.
13:59Uh, thank you. He's asking for you. Are you there, Ross? Yeah, I'm still there. Do you think
14:11you might make it down to the station?
14:41Uh, what are you doing in here? Well, Harry gave me the keys. He needed his laptop collecting.
14:47But I thought you was in Cardiff with him and Gojo, no? Well, yeah, yeah. I came back
14:51for work. Thought I'd do him a favour. Right. What are you doing there, anyway? I thought
15:00it was hard to open until seven. They don't. Ah. Hand to your drinking buddy. I'm a good
15:12listener. What's that supposed to mean? It means you look far too pretty to be letting
15:17some donut like Harry let you down, innit? You're covering these. Because I ain't getting
15:27a sack of this, yeah. Come on. So this was our idea? Yep. I cannot believe she's come
15:39around already. I know. Hi, Johnny. Hey, Lex. Do you mind if I call you Lex? Um, sure.
15:47Cool. Poor dude. Um, chicken burger, right? And chips with extra mayo.
15:56I'm all right. What'd you get for pudding? Lex. No, no. No, no, that's all right. I just,
16:02I didn't think. Um. It's all right. Give me your phone. I'll order one now. It'll be
16:06him all the time we're done. Lexie, that's rude. No, no, no. Honestly. Honestly, Carl,
16:10don't mind. I mean, you're not going to get anywhere in life without a bit of hustle.
16:13There you go, Lex. Nothing too mad, yeah? Sure. Welcome to the world of teenage
16:22life. Hey, Lex, then. Am I, um, am I doing okay? You're doing great. Yeah. Yeah. Guys are
16:34full, if you ask me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, whatever. So, what did he do? Hmm. Nothing. I mean, that's
16:44precisely the problem. Nothing. Ah. So, he's erring you? Hmm. The arrogance of it. I don't
16:56get all this modern dating stuff. It's not really how I operate. Oh. Oh. For real? Yeah,
17:02okay. You know, I'm proper old-fashioned, me. You know, I'm just texting back and forth, upside
17:09down emojis. Hmm. I like to call her with me, you know? Share her voice. You know? I like to say
17:16where I'm going to be, and I'll be there. Say what I'm going to do, and I'll do it. And there's a pot of gold
17:21at the end of that rainbow, right? Yeah, yeah. All right, okay. Fair play. Yeah. So, why
17:30did you say that Harry asked you to get his laptop again? Well, um, mine broke, innit? So,
17:36I'm borrowing his. Right. And you'll be paying him by chirps and his woman, yeah? Oh.
17:41Still his woman. Sorry. I'm late. I'm late. All right?
17:51Little sis? Mm. Yeah. Well, I was just leaving. It's been delightful.
18:01Oi. Do you want my number?
18:08Um... All right.
18:11Till next time. Bye.
18:28I thought you were supposed to be in Cardiff.
18:33Huh? Oh, yeah, yeah. And got back early, apparently.
18:37And now you're day-drinking with him. Mm. Sorry.
18:40Gina! What?
18:47Right. This is on the down. I can't stand standard. Okay.
18:50Look, I, uh, really appreciate it.
18:58How's, um... How's Amy, by the way?
19:03I'll come and get you when the unique piece's finished, yeah?
19:05It's finished, yeah.
19:37Can I listen to music?
19:42Yeah, of course, but not too loud, though, please.
19:45You know she likes the Arctic Monkeys?
19:47What? No. Get your own music, kid.
19:51You know, if this carries on, we might actually be okay.
19:53Yeah, and two stone heavier.
20:00It's all right, it's work, sorry.
20:04Oh, my God.
20:08What is it?
20:09So when Lex was ordering donuts,
20:11she sent an email to the last 50 clients in my inbox.
20:14Apparently, I'm a fat pig
20:15who steals husbands and breaks up families.
20:17Johnny, I'm so sorry.
20:19My boss wants to see me.
20:21I'll talk to her.
20:24Yeah, sure.
20:25We'll short this.
20:27Right.
20:27There's nothing on there apart from pictures of Kojo picking his nose,
20:34so I feel more clear.
20:40Yep, you still here.
20:47Ravi says a gold star for telling us where the laptop was.
20:50All right.
20:55Cool.
20:55Anyway.
20:58So I can go now, yeah?
21:00Nope.
21:01Not yet, lover boy.
21:03What?
21:04This is from up high.
21:06Yeah.
21:09Oh.
21:10I bumped into your missus earlier.
21:13I mean, if you can call her that.
21:14Yeah.
21:16She asked for my number.
21:22I don't want to chill out, my boy.
21:28Wait, don't go.
21:33What?
21:33What do you want?
21:39Run out of gear.
21:39What, and you forgot how to exercise your manners or what?
21:48Please.
21:49There you go.
22:17Thanks.
22:18Is it all right if my mum and dad are here?
22:22Yeah.
22:22That's fine, Tommy.
22:23Can I get you anything else?
22:25We're fine.
22:32Can you tell us what happened last night
22:35between you and Vicky Fowler?
22:42I don't know.
22:45We had a row.
22:46Well,
22:46she was really aggressive.
22:52Came at me hard.
22:55And I was scared.
22:59So I gave her a little push.
23:03And
23:04she must have
23:06tripped
23:07and
23:08banged her face or whatever.
23:13So, yeah,
23:14that's basically,
23:15that's basically what happened.
23:23It was
23:23an accident.
23:25I didn't mean to her.
23:26I didn't mean to her.
23:28I just hate you in the moment.
23:37So he messaged me,
23:39said to me in our old garage.
23:40only when I got there,
23:43he was weird.
23:46Weird?
23:48Hyper.
23:50And, yeah,
23:53he told me he got in an argument with his step-mum
23:55and they pushed her.
23:56And you believed him.
24:02And he asked me
24:03to get him some clothes
24:04and,
24:05you know,
24:07he's a mate.
24:08I wanted to help him.
24:09Only when I got back here,
24:15I saw her.
24:21You saw the victim?
24:23Vicky Fowler?
24:27Being put in an ambulance and
24:29and then I knew
24:32that wasn't right.
24:36And then what did you do?
24:39I brought him the clothes.
24:47So you didn't
24:48tell anyone
24:49what you were doing?
24:51I spoke to my sister.
24:54You spoke to Zoe?
24:55Yeah, but
24:56I didn't tell her.
25:00Sorry,
25:01I just,
25:01I just didn't know
25:02who to believe.
25:04It's okay, Tommy.
25:05You're doing really well.
25:09Was it really him?
25:14Did he really do that to her?
25:25We've spoken to Vicky
25:26and she's given us
25:28a very different version of events.
25:30She's lying.
25:31Why would she do that?
25:33Because
25:34she's like all women I know.
25:36She hates me
25:37and she hates men.
25:40All the women you know
25:41hate men?
25:43See, even you.
25:45The way you look at me,
25:47like I'm dangerous.
25:50Like,
25:50all of us in school
25:51is standing around
25:53just talking about men
25:54how all the world's problems
25:57are because of us.
26:00It's like
26:00you're judging us
26:02before we even
26:04do anything.
26:06It's like
26:07you think
26:08you know
26:09exactly
26:10who I am
26:11or
26:12what I am.
26:15But it ain't true.
26:16I'm just a kid
26:21trying to make a life
26:22for myself.
26:26Trying to
26:27be better.
26:31I'm just a kid.
26:35Will he be charged?
26:37It will be up to the SIO
26:38whether any action
26:39will be taken
26:39with respect to
26:40Tommy assisting Joel.
26:42But
26:43I suspect
26:44his cooperation
26:45will go a long way.
26:46Bye.
26:48Thanks.
26:54Mum,
26:55I'm so,
26:56so sorry.
26:57Oh, come here.
26:58Oh, my boy.
27:00Oh, boy.
27:01It's all right.
27:04Why did you take
27:05a video of her
27:06unconscious on the floor?
27:10We've seen it, Joel.
27:11Did you take it
27:13as a trophy
27:14to come back to
27:15and watch alone?
27:17Or was it
27:17to show off to your mates?
27:18Where did you get it?
27:20Please answer the question, Joel.
27:21Where did you get it?
27:22You attacked her
27:23and then you got out
27:25your phone
27:25and instead of calling
27:26an ambulance to help her
27:27you filmed it.
27:29My dad.
27:30What is this here?
27:31Wait, Joel.
27:31Get off me.
27:32Joel.
27:32How come my own dad
27:33did this?
27:34My own dad
27:35did this?
27:36No, I need to see him.
27:37Dad,
27:37you tell him to come in.
27:39You bring him here now.
27:40No, because I need
27:41to tell him something.
27:42No, we are done.
27:43Do you understand?
27:44We are finished.
27:48All right.
27:52Will you tell him
27:52he's dead to me?
27:56No.
27:56No.
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