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00:00:00Welcome.
00:00:29Welcome to this edition of the Iowa Blog.
00:00:32We're going to continue our celebration of sukkah
00:00:34in that we are in the opening days of an eight-day celebration
00:00:39of camping out with Iowa.
00:00:42But in this edition, we have a special guest
00:00:46because one of the very few individuals that's ever had
00:00:51taken the opportunity actually to convass the nation
00:00:56from sea to shining sea.
00:00:58A meeting with many people who are covenant
00:01:03and others who claim to be covenant,
00:01:06getting a feel for what it's like as this family
00:01:10and those who have tried to hack it
00:01:13are spread all across the nation.
00:01:18And so the man of whom I speak is known to many of you.
00:01:23But let me ask him.
00:01:26So for the record, sir, what is your name?
00:01:30Patrick Shannon Leroy.
00:01:34And I go by Shannon.
00:01:36And Shannon, how long have you known Yawa?
00:01:41Eight years.
00:01:42How did you meet?
00:01:45I met Yawa through a man named Yada.
00:01:52It was on a coast to coast with George and Ori.
00:01:56And I heard him speak.
00:01:59And when I got home, I looked it up.
00:02:02And I have been on this journey ever since.
00:02:06I've been reading translations and developing my relationship with Yawa.
00:02:12And it's just been a wonderful journey.
00:02:15You know, it's interesting.
00:02:16You mentioned George and Ori.
00:02:19The reason I ended up doing George and Ori's show,
00:02:21and it should be stated for the record,
00:02:24for those who are listening here,
00:02:26that there were a number of years where George and Ori's coast to coast show
00:02:30was the number one listened to show,
00:02:33the largest audience of any radio show in the world.
00:02:36It had more listeners than Rush Limbaugh.
00:02:42It was a show that aired live from, I think, midnight, three o'clock.
00:02:48It wasn't that time when he broadcasted on the West Coast.
00:02:51But for those on the East Coast, those were the hours of the show.
00:02:55It was always a three-hour show.
00:02:56But I was unique to be on the George and Ori's show
00:03:03because George and Ori liked to do shows on conspiratorial things.
00:03:08He wanted to talk about extraterrestrials
00:03:11and all sorts of phenomenon that was interesting to a lot of different people.
00:03:18I did not do George and Ori's show because of George and Ori, though.
00:03:22The man who had started that show, Art Bell,
00:03:28who became a legend in radio, one of the great pioneers in talk radio,
00:03:35Art Bell was among the first Americans who had one of these, a microphone,
00:03:43back in the day when talk radio was the rage,
00:03:46was among the first to recognize that the war in Afghanistan and Iraq were counterproductive.
00:03:57Because in America, if you speak against a war that your nation is committed to,
00:04:04you're considered to be a traitor, no matter how misconstrued that war might be.
00:04:10For example, the Gulf of Tonkin incident never occurred,
00:04:14and yet we fought a horrible war in Vietnam,
00:04:18and we lost almost 60,000 Americans because of a lie.
00:04:24And making a bad situation worse.
00:04:27And I personally knew George W. Bush.
00:04:32He told me that he was going to declare war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:04:38And he did that very thing because he wanted to be a wartime president
00:04:41because he thought being a wartime president would give him more authority and power.
00:04:46And so I knew exactly what he was going to do.
00:04:50And he did it.
00:04:51And at that time is when I met Yahweh,
00:04:55about a week after 9-11 is when I met him, Shannon.
00:05:01And our first job together was to expose Islam.
00:05:06And so that began with a meeting with Al-Qaeda right after 9-11.
00:05:11Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad.
00:05:16And I wrote a book called Tea with Tariffs about it,
00:05:18and then later Prophet of Doom, which is now Goddamn religion.
00:05:23And as a result of that and of my agreement with Yahweh,
00:05:28which was I'll do the work so long as you assist me every step of the way
00:05:35and you protect my home and family because no one has ever survived
00:05:39what you're asking me to do and exposing Islam.
00:05:42And, oh, by the way, I'm good at one thing.
00:05:45I'm a good marketer.
00:05:47I know how to sell things.
00:05:49And therefore, just to demonstrate that we're not relying on my strengths,
00:05:53but instead on yours, you're going to take over the responsibility
00:05:56of promoting this program, of whatever we learn.
00:06:01And I was in a unique position.
00:06:06I realized it was Yahweh.
00:06:07I didn't know his name at the time, but God speaking to me.
00:06:10And I figured that since he seemed open to negotiation, those were my terms.
00:06:15And his response was,
00:06:17reaped in your pocket and you'll find my answer.
00:06:19Mismore 91.
00:06:20Mismore 91.
00:06:22The 91st Psalm.
00:06:23And so we began on that day and being on the George Norris show after I did Art Bell's show prior to that,
00:06:34Art Bell called me up personally and he said,
00:06:37I want to do a show as to why we should not be in Afghanistan and Iraq.
00:06:41I've convinced the world and I've only found one person who can articulate why we shouldn't be there.
00:06:46That's you.
00:06:47Will you be willing to do this show with me?
00:06:49We'll do all three hours, which he had never, I don't think, previously given three hours to a single guest.
00:06:55We did three hours.
00:06:56And then I did two shows with George Norris, three hours apiece, nine hours on coast to coast.
00:07:02I still don't think it's ever happened previously.
00:07:05And we discussed why the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq would turn out badly,
00:07:11why America was making a bad situation worse.
00:07:14But I never did a show like this without also explaining that there was a better answer.
00:07:23And I explained that better answer during those shows.
00:07:27And that's what you responded to, is it not?
00:07:29Yes, sir.
00:07:31Yeah.
00:07:31It's amazing that at a time where being booked on a talk radio show of any consequence was about a $5,000 to $10,000 fee.
00:07:46That I was booked on upwards of $10,000 of them for nothing.
00:07:53I want to talk about God doing something that he said he would do.
00:08:00It's pretty amazing.
00:08:02And in all of that time, I received many thousands of death threats.
00:08:08I'm sitting here in my flaps and my shorts.
00:08:11You don't see any guns.
00:08:13You've never seen me, Doc, have you?
00:08:14No.
00:08:15With all of those death threats, not a single shot.
00:08:20God said he would protect me.
00:08:23He did.
00:08:26Evidence for certain, because there is no clearer condemnation of Islam than was prophet of them and now goddamn religion.
00:08:35And so now here we are.
00:08:37So, Shannon, you listened to a show, George Norrie Program.
00:08:45And it was unique enough that it caused you to say, I think I need to learn more about this.
00:08:51So, what did you do?
00:08:52Well, I got home.
00:08:55I did exterminating at night.
00:08:57I did restaurants.
00:08:58And so I had keys and codes.
00:09:00I would go in.
00:09:01So, it was late night.
00:09:02And so I was coming home late when I heard the show and heard you.
00:09:07So, when I got home, I was anxious.
00:09:09I pulled up the Coast to Coast site, found you, went on to your site, and that's when I started reading and haven't stopped since.
00:09:22So, if it were not for my good friend, who is now developing the new interactive Yada, Yawa site, Joe Page, you would not have found Yawa, would you?
00:09:35No.
00:09:36So, Joe did something that was really extraordinary, has long-lasting value.
00:09:45Right.
00:09:47And so you decided that the smart thing to do was to check up on this.
00:09:53Yes.
00:09:53Because this sounds a lot like about, you know, 500, 600 people that I've heard from in the past that heard me on one of these radio shows and decided they would validate whether or not that was true.
00:10:06Because there were parts of it that resonated with you, I'm assuming, and there were parts of it that said, wow, is that possible, that that could actually be true?
00:10:13Because what I was saying was so contrary to what was being articulated politically and religiously.
00:10:19Yes.
00:10:20So, is there any possibility that somebody could speak with such confidence and yet be completely opposed to political and religious rhetoric?
00:10:29Was that basically what you were thinking?
00:10:31Yeah, and I did a lot of verification, and I'm like, I need to check this.
00:10:38And then every time I did, it was like, okay, this is true.
00:10:43And that's why I just dived into it and developed my relationship with y'all through the translations.
00:10:55And I think you told me the other night, and we met for the first time at about five o'clock yesterday, correct?
00:11:02Right.
00:11:02Had we ever talked on the phone prior to that?
00:11:04Yes, sir.
00:11:05Had we ever?
00:11:05I don't even know if we'd ever exchanged an email, had we?
00:11:08No, other than maybe the Quora coming.
00:11:11Yeah.
00:11:11Yeah, I'm not even sure that was by email.
00:11:14I think that was actually to your Facebook.
00:11:17So, we exchanged a few public Facebook discussions.
00:11:23Nothing outside of public.
00:11:24But I don't think we've ever had a conversation part of that.
00:11:28No, haven't.
00:11:30And yet, we've been friends for 10 years.
00:11:34Yes, eight years.
00:11:35Eight years.
00:11:36Yes.
00:11:36Eight years.
00:11:38Wow.
00:11:38You know, in the extermination business, that stuff worked on MAGAs and Muslims and Marxists and the like.
00:11:49I've been trying to make a formula for that, but I can't.
00:11:52Yeah.
00:11:52We're not.
00:11:53As everyone who has listened to this program knows, we are completely nonviolent.
00:11:58Right.
00:11:58We are going to use our words only.
00:12:02Yes.
00:12:02But if words could silence this deadly drumbeat of the Marxists, of the MAGAs, and of the Muslims, that would be a very good thing.
00:12:14Yes.
00:12:15Yes.
00:12:15Yeah.
00:12:17So, you, I think, had expressed to me that if you weren't eating, sleeping, or working, you were reading.
00:12:25Yes.
00:12:26I wanted it.
00:12:28Yeah.
00:12:28You had the want to.
00:12:29Yes, sir.
00:12:30You're very much then like Leah was when she first stumbled upon what we were doing.
00:12:38In fact, in Leah's case, it wasn't a show because she was living someplace in these islands, I think, at the time.
00:12:45And her thing was she was in the midst of a dream.
00:12:50She was saying, who is this rotten woman that she was reading as she began to read from Barashith on through the prophets?
00:13:00There was a bad woman and there was a good woman.
00:13:02Who in the world were they?
00:13:05And what she heard in her head was, go ask Ruth.
00:13:10And she then Googled a search, and the first place she came was the Yadayama site.
00:13:24And she, too, became a, she, as she explains it, she says, I went the next three days, where I says, I don't know if I ate.
00:13:34I most certainly didn't take a bath.
00:13:36I didn't do anything but read.
00:13:39Right.
00:13:39I read three straight days.
00:13:41I could not imagine that anything could be this powerful, this informative, this enlightening.
00:13:47Now, for the first time, I was being exposed to the truth.
00:13:51You know, what's interesting about her deal is that the search that brought her here is so funny now in retrospect,
00:13:59is that I was the first person to identify the Ruach as a feminine now and said, therefore,
00:14:04Yadayama, while he presents himself entirely as our father and never as our mother, and while he always uses masculine singular pronouns and every verb associated with him,
00:14:18therefore, he is he, when addressing himself, the fact that Ruach is a feminine noun would indicate that there are probably both masculine and feminine characteristics in the personality of Yadayama.
00:14:35Well, it's funny because as this rebellious mother goddess cult came up, their charge against me was that I had not addressed the feminine aspects of God.
00:14:53And at the time, I had gone further and said more about that than not only anybody previously, but probably more than everybody combined previously.
00:15:04It's exactly the opposite of their claim.
00:15:06And then, of course, as you know, they cited the eighth Mishal proverb as proof that they were speaking for the spiritual mom, mother, mother of God, spiritual mother.
00:15:23And you've probably done some research.
00:15:26Is the word for mother M in Hebrew ever mentioned in that?
00:15:31No.
00:15:31How about the word for spirit Ruach?
00:15:34No.
00:15:34So it doesn't speak of a spiritual mom.
00:15:38No.
00:15:38So they were lying.
00:15:42Interesting that that would occur.
00:15:44So you came to know Yadayama.
00:15:47What did your family and friends think of all of that?
00:15:52Well, after the first night, I'm excited.
00:15:59I went to talk to my son, Patrick, and of course, I have been, he's Christian, Christianity his whole life.
00:16:11So when I presented it to him and explained that God had a name and it was Yawa, he told me, Dad, you sound like a Muslim.
00:16:21And so I just, just one second.
00:16:27Would you mind switching his picture in picture to the opposite side?
00:16:33So when I'm actually looking at him, it looks like I'm looking at him, not away from him.
00:16:38Because it looks rude if I'm looking away from him in the video, when in fact I'm looking right at you.
00:16:43It's just that he has you on the guest side as opposed to the, when Leah co-hosts and she's sitting in that chair, she's on the other side.
00:16:52So now when I'm looking at you, it shows up on the, on the video that I'm looking at you.
00:16:58So, excuse me.
00:16:59Okay.
00:16:59So, okay.
00:17:00So you, so you, your son had a kind of a snippy response.
00:17:05Yes, he did.
00:17:05And so I did not push it.
00:17:08I continued to study him and my daughter both knew that's what I did.
00:17:13And it was maybe a month later, he come into my room and, and he was wanting something.
00:17:21And I said, son, let me show you something.
00:17:23And so I started showing him and he was like, wow, dad.
00:17:27I said, yes, I know, son.
00:17:29And so he started being an advocate for Yawa with his friends would actually go to the site with his friends and was showing them.
00:17:39And so, um, I'm, uh, pretty happy about that.
00:17:45Makes you really proud.
00:17:46Yes, it does.
00:17:47I don't think there's anything that could cause a man to feel more satisfaction in life than to have, uh, his son, uh, come to share a love for Yawa.
00:17:59Yes.
00:17:59So, um, he, uh, how old was he?
00:18:03He was 17 years old.
00:18:06Well, he was 16 at the time, but 17 when the tragedy happened.
00:18:12Tell us about the, uh, the tragedy.
00:18:14Well, it was, uh, I actually, um, uh, if I can tell you what happened with my brother first, please.
00:18:21Um, I was a year and a half into it and I hadn't talked with many people as a subject that you just don't, Hey, you know?
00:18:32And so other than speaking to my son's friends, I decided to talk to my brother and, um, I stopped to speak with my brother and my brother told me I was out there.
00:18:48And it was his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ that saved him.
00:18:55And anyway, that was the last time I spoke to my brother because maybe a month later, he died of a heart attack on August 5th, 2018.
00:19:05And, uh, six days after that, I lost my son to a drive-by shooting in my home and, uh, inside of your home.
00:19:17It was inside of my home.
00:19:18And, uh, I was actually on the phone with my mom speaking, consoling her over what had happened to my brother.
00:19:26And, uh, one of his friends ran to my room and said, Patrick's been shot.
00:19:31And so I ran out and put him in my truck and he died in my arms on the way to the hospital.
00:19:39And, um, the bullet had actually just one bullet made it into the whole house.
00:19:44It hit my barn, trees, everything else.
00:19:47One shot made it in, hit him in his right hip and it went up inside of him.
00:19:54And, uh, so he, but, uh, eternal, you know, internally.
00:19:59And so I lost my son that, that evening.
00:20:05And, um, and it was a turning point for me, um, because I had to make some major decisions.
00:20:12Um, I knew a preacher was not going to speak over my son and I knew it was not going to be in a church.
00:20:19And so I decided to speak over my son in a funeral home and I was able to proclaim Yahweh's name.
00:20:28And, uh,
00:20:28And you have the satisfaction of knowing that he embraced Yahweh.
00:20:33Yes.
00:20:34And he went the next step.
00:20:36He was then sharing Yahweh.
00:20:38Yes.
00:20:39With his friends.
00:20:40Yes.
00:20:40And it was at that moment that, uh, his life ended, which means that he ended his life, not only having accepted Yahweh, but having been active in sharing Yahweh.
00:20:53Yes.
00:20:54And you went on rather than saying this tragedy is going to ruin me, that this tragedy is something that I'm going to honor his, my son's life by continuing to share as he would have shared.
00:21:06Yes.
00:21:07And the interesting thing is 17 is under 20.
00:21:13The only time we're actually told by Yahweh, uh, that a group of people are going to be spared from death and given another chance, another opportunity is, uh, the episode of the spies.
00:21:27Yes.
00:21:27When Yahweh said, all of you who are over 20, you're dead, except two men.
00:21:32And all of you who are under 20, he says, I'm going to, and he begins then the 15th chapter of numbers where he said, this is the plan.
00:21:43This is the way that I'm going to provide an opportunity for you to enter the promised land.
00:21:48It's one of the most powerful prophecies ever written.
00:21:51I don't think anyone's appreciated previously, but that is the story.
00:21:55And so your son at being under 20 of a father who is committed to Yahweh and to the covenant and who had made a decision for Yahweh and was sharing with his friends, you will absolutely enjoy the embrace of your son again.
00:22:11Yeah.
00:22:14Yeah.
00:22:14He's still there with you now.
00:22:15Yes.
00:22:16Yeah.
00:22:16Yes.
00:22:18One of the things that, that strikes me of that story, um, Shannon is not only the courage that it takes to overcome that, but the realization that life is filled with very difficult challenges for all of us.
00:22:37We know, for example, of the challenge that Moshe felt, I mean, imagine telling God, I just want you to kill me.
00:22:46These people are that impossible.
00:22:48This job cannot be done.
00:22:49If you have any compassion for me at all, rather than having me see this failure, you just kill me.
00:22:57And you see Dode weeping over the betrayal of his son when the entire nation turned against him.
00:23:05Um, life is full of challenges.
00:23:10It's, uh, it's what we do with them.
00:23:13Uh, Hezekiah, when he had that brief moment of sanity, he had 185,000 of the most ruthless Syrians, uh, militants in the world outside and surrounding Jerusalem.
00:23:26Uh, it's a whole lot more than the 4,000, uh, crazed Muslims on, uh, uh, in sneakers and flaps and, uh, garden utensils that, uh, waltzed into Israel.
00:23:37It wasn't 4,000, it was 185,000.
00:23:41They were armed and disciplined and trained to the hilt.
00:23:43And he overcame them by a reliance on Yahu, turning away from religion and accepting the value of Pesach, Mats, and Bokuram.
00:23:53Um, so life is hard, uh, and we all go through challenges.
00:24:03Um, we were talking about the challenges that we're facing now and the fact that if Moshe endured them, if Dode endured them, then it's for certain we're going to endure them.
00:24:16Yes, and we are, um, but they make us more confident, more resolute.
00:24:22Mm-hmm.
00:24:25So after that, what, uh, what happened in your, uh, your life that, uh, brings us together at this wonderful celebration of Sukkah?
00:24:37Well, I, uh, everything that I've done from that point, I just trying to draw people.
00:24:46To the site that I went to.
00:24:49And, and I realized that I thought I was going to change the world to start with because it is so beautiful.
00:24:56Yeah.
00:24:56And it makes so much sense.
00:24:57Yes.
00:24:58You know, and I'm like, everybody's going to listen to me, you know, but.
00:25:01The real God is so wonderful.
00:25:03Yes.
00:25:03He's so, uh, bright.
00:25:05He wants to be a dad.
00:25:07He's offering you everything you could imagine that is wonderful.
00:25:10He's asking very little of you.
00:25:11And what he's asked is all in your interest.
00:25:13Right.
00:25:14And it all makes sense.
00:25:15And he said it so clearly, why in the world isn't everybody want to accept this?
00:25:20Right.
00:25:20And what you found out is almost no one does.
00:25:23Yes.
00:25:23You know.
00:25:25Yes.
00:25:27Very few.
00:25:29We, I just got a, uh, a tissue.
00:25:32Yes, I had a tear in my right eye.
00:25:34I'm not ashamed to, uh, to say that's the, uh, the case.
00:25:38I'll wear it.
00:25:38Um, I'll wear it proudly.
00:25:41Um, yeah, there's, uh, well, our journey to Yawa is over 90% cerebral.
00:25:50There is an emotional element to it as well.
00:25:55Um, I think that Yawa has a type.
00:25:58Obviously, when you look through it, we talked about this yesterday.
00:26:02Uh, he prefers very cerebral men.
00:26:07Uh, but he does, uh, entertain emotional men as well.
00:26:13Uh, particularly if it's buttressed with, uh, with thought.
00:26:18Um, but, uh, you know, it's, there's, we know that those who carried the torch before us.
00:26:26Right.
00:26:27Blended these two things, uh, together.
00:26:29The leb.
00:26:30Yeah.
00:26:31That leb.
00:26:32The.
00:26:33Yeah, the leb, uh, which, uh, which is heart in Hebrew, it doesn't mean emotion.
00:26:38Uh, it, uh, speaks of being judgmental.
00:26:41Uh, the, uh, the liver was the seat of, uh, of emotion in the ancient world.
00:26:47And so, uh, you know, God is saying, I want you to be judgmental.
00:26:51I want you to be thoughtful.
00:26:52I want you to make a good decision regarding me.
00:26:54So you continue to learn, you continue to share, you shared, uh, with me a, uh, a card
00:26:59that you like to hand out and that, uh, card, uh, what is it?
00:27:02The citation of Hosha four, six.
00:27:06And what does Hosha say in four, six?
00:27:09My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because they have rejected knowledge.
00:27:13Not they rejected faith or they're, you know, it's not a lack of faith.
00:27:20It's knowledge, you know, to know.
00:27:22And so I thought that was very key and maybe drawing people to your side.
00:27:28Yeah.
00:27:28Because we're offering yada.
00:27:31Yes.
00:27:31No.
00:27:32And the interesting thing is it's so appropriate today.
00:27:35Israel is celebrating, um, the great betrayer as if he were a Messiah.
00:27:40Um, you know, Donald Trump capitulated to the Muslims, Hamas remains in power and, uh, in
00:27:49Gaza, they stay armed in Gaza.
00:27:51Israel withdraws from, uh, from Gaza and Israel trades 20 living hostages for 7 million that
00:28:00they will lose as a result of this deal with the devil.
00:28:03And it is the ignorance of Islam that causes, uh, causes Israel to be destroyed.
00:28:11If you don't know your enemy, if you, uh, lash out at a symptom of them, if you don't know
00:28:16Yahweh, if you don't know whom to rely upon, you will be destroyed and Israel will be destroyed
00:28:22over these next eight years.
00:28:23There'll be a tiny remnant left, no nation left, just a very tiny remnant left, uh, eight
00:28:32years from now.
00:28:33And of course the rest of the world is going to go through hell as well.
00:28:36And again, for a singular reason, they just don't know.
00:28:41And the more we try to share the truth, the more we are rejected.
00:28:45And not the rejection doesn't always come from outside.
00:28:49It's not always from the overtly religious or they're overtly political.
00:28:53It's not just from Muslims and from Christians or from Magga or from Marxists.
00:28:59It is from those who were exposed to the truth and chose to turn against it.
00:29:05Which is, uh, interesting and of itself.
00:29:08So, so you, um, printed up shirts like the one that you're wearing, uh, now, which is to
00:29:14radiate Yahweh's light.
00:29:15It shows Yahweh's name in the original paleo Hebrew, um, the hand reaching down and out to
00:29:22us, the two people standing up, reaching up to, uh, to God on either side of the wah, which
00:29:29not only makes the O sound in Yahweh's name, but secures the family as a tent would peg would
00:29:35secure a large tent as a covering.
00:29:39Correct?
00:29:40Yes.
00:29:40Uh, what is the basis of the word, uh, sukkah for, um, shelters?
00:29:47What's the basis of it?
00:29:49Yeah.
00:29:49The, the basis of it.
00:29:50If you were to, uh, look at it's, uh, it's actionable root, which is Sakha.
00:29:55Um, what Sakha, what does it mean?
00:29:58Is it camp out?
00:29:59To camp out.
00:30:00It means to be covered.
00:30:02To be covered.
00:30:03Okay.
00:30:03What does Gan mean when you go to its actionable root, Gana, as in Gan Eden, the garden, what
00:30:09does it mean?
00:30:10I'm not sure.
00:30:12It means to be covered.
00:30:13To be covered.
00:30:14Okay.
00:30:14And, uh, what does that tent peg, uh, do, uh, as it relates to the tent?
00:30:20It's, um.
00:30:21Secures it.
00:30:22Secures it.
00:30:22Secures it.
00:30:23Yes.
00:30:23And, uh, allows those inside to be covered by it.
00:30:26Okay.
00:30:27Yes.
00:30:27So that is, means those two people are benefiting from being under that tent and, um, that's
00:30:36indeed what it conveys.
00:30:38Yeah.
00:30:38Um, so about a year ago, you, um, or less, you decided that, uh, you were going to do a
00:30:46tour of the country.
00:30:47What prompted that tour?
00:30:49Um, I was, it had gotten warm.
00:30:54It was actually in June.
00:30:55Um, I had actually wanted to do it back in 21.
00:30:59I wanted to travel and just share y'all.
00:31:03But then I realized, um, most people are not going to listen and, and I was going to go
00:31:10just inadvertently anywhere.
00:31:12And then I'm like, that just, you know, and so I ended up, um, actually built a little
00:31:19cabin in the mountains and spent my time there and just building stuff.
00:31:24And, and I basically finished.
00:31:26And in June we had started this.
00:31:28So I had like been talking with people and through Facebook and meeting people and, and
00:31:36I'm so many people have so many nice posts and they're so articulate with her.
00:31:40And I'm like, I'm just not very good at that.
00:31:45Well, actually you were exposed to Facebook, uh, with, uh, because of your son, because
00:31:51your son was communicating via Facebook and, uh, your, his, your son's friends communicated
00:31:58through Facebook.
00:31:59So you picked up Facebook because of your son.
00:32:01Yes, I had not done Facebook until I lost my son, his friends and my friends.
00:32:07I picked up about 200 people that were friends with me on Facebook and I was able to share
00:32:12y'all through, uh, Facebook and, uh, and, uh, kind of in a viral outreach through them.
00:32:20And that was posts.
00:32:21Now you have over 4,000, don't you?
00:32:23Yes.
00:32:24And most of them, Yahudim, I have about 4,200 Yahudim on Facebook now who gets to see your
00:32:33posts and, uh, that's my objective.
00:32:38Yeah.
00:32:38Mostly, uh, Yahudim and Israelites.
00:32:40Yes.
00:32:41About 80%.
00:32:42Yes.
00:32:42About 80%.
00:32:43Oh, obviously Yahweh has a type and you're his type and he's working through you in this
00:32:49manner.
00:32:50Well, I love him.
00:32:51Yeah.
00:32:51And so you went on, began this trip and tell me about some of the people you met along the
00:32:59way.
00:32:59Oh, it's just, um, it's really been awesome.
00:33:02Probably the most awesome thing is that for eight years, whenever I spoke of Yahweh, I'm
00:33:09explaining Yahweh.
00:33:11Right.
00:33:11Okay.
00:33:12And, and right to start with, I met with Chris Cook and, and he said he was an introvert,
00:33:18but he talked to me just like, you know, out of the gate and he, it was awesome.
00:33:25Loved it.
00:33:26And, uh, great guy.
00:33:27And, uh, and then my next trip was to Mr. Kevin McCar, backwoods.
00:33:36Now, Mr. Kevin, yeah, he's a piece of work.
00:33:39We, uh, we went solid 10 hours.
00:33:42Yeah.
00:33:42He's a man's man.
00:33:44We, we didn't let up 10 hours, just straight time.
00:33:48There was no time involved.
00:33:50It was just like 10 hours straight.
00:33:51We never stopped talking.
00:33:53Wow.
00:33:53And, uh, I, uh, that's exactly as I would have, uh, have imagined.
00:33:57Yes.
00:33:57Yeah.
00:33:58Kevin's awesome.
00:33:59And, uh, he has become, um, a rock, a, uh, absolute foundation.
00:34:06He is a, uh, a great gift from highly intelligent.
00:34:10So he was, he was one of your very favorite people.
00:34:13It's instant, instant connection because he's no BS man.
00:34:17He, you know, you know, you know where he stands with the Iowa, where he stands and he
00:34:22knows his material, man.
00:34:23You can get into depth with him.
00:34:26He knows his material.
00:34:27Yes, he does.
00:34:29And when I went eight years explaining Yawa and now I'm talking with people who are like
00:34:34minded is it was just wonderful.
00:34:36It was wonderful.
00:34:37Yeah.
00:34:37This is, this is great.
00:34:39Yeah.
00:34:40You know?
00:34:40Yeah.
00:34:40It's kind of like when, uh, uh, Yawa asked me to do this blog and I'd be talking to people
00:34:45that I really didn't know, uh, uh, that was one thing.
00:34:49Uh, and so I really, really missed the time that we had together when we were doing the
00:34:54translations and the insights that could be derived from the translations.
00:34:57And so I went back to spending about a quarter of my day doing that just because you, you kind
00:35:03of got to go back to the source.
00:35:04Uh, and you know, my, uh, my source is Yawa through his prophets and you've got, you've
00:35:10got to plug into that.
00:35:11Yes.
00:35:12Occasionally.
00:35:13Right.
00:35:13All right.
00:35:14So, um, two for two, you had two really, really outstanding, uh, meetings.
00:35:20And one of them was probably among the most reassuring things you could ever have done.
00:35:25Yes.
00:35:26Kevin is that kind of guy.
00:35:28Yes.
00:35:29Yeah.
00:35:29And that actually helped with, um, people seeing what he posted, what Chris posted to
00:35:37like, okay, Shannon's not a man.
00:35:39It's interesting.
00:35:39I don't ever think I saw, did I, uh, uh, any of your posts with Kevin?
00:35:44No, he, he posted a picture.
00:35:47I think they did it on, he might've did it on Chris's site.
00:35:50So anyway, it was, uh, it was, it was great.
00:35:56But when people saw the posts, people were like, well, can you come see me?
00:36:02Can you come?
00:36:03And so.
00:36:04Yeah.
00:36:04That happens to be my single, uh, if I have a, uh, regret, cause I get to tell Rich every
00:36:09day, cause he's here every, I appreciate what he is doing.
00:36:12So I get to thank him every day, uh, for his contribution.
00:36:15Uh, Leah actually talks to Kevin more than I talked to Kevin, uh, and, uh, as does, uh,
00:36:22Rich.
00:36:22And so I just get to see and talk to Kevin in between, uh, at the end and beginning of
00:36:28their conversations where, uh, Kevin, uh, is very much like, oh yeah, he is sarcastic.
00:36:34And so I like sarcasm.
00:36:36Uh, but I, uh, I don't get to express my appreciation for what he has meant to us over these last 10
00:36:45months.
00:36:45He is just an extraordinary, uh, contributor.
00:36:49Can you, can you imagine doing this without Kevin's support, Rich?
00:36:53No, no, I mean, he is, he is really rock solid and he has been literally a godsend for Leah.
00:37:04Yes.
00:37:04He's taken a lot of burden off her.
00:37:06Yes, he has.
00:37:08And, and done a lot to protect her.
00:37:09Yep.
00:37:11Um, so anyway, you went, you went to a very special place.
00:37:14Yes.
00:37:14I, I didn't know, uh, Kevin from Adam prior to this whole thing blowing up and, um, in
00:37:22December and he and, uh, and Rich and, uh, Charles were the three that just came out of
00:37:30the woodwork and say, okay, we're here.
00:37:33We're, uh, we don't even need to know what you want or what you need.
00:37:37We'll figure it out.
00:37:38And, uh, and you can rely on us.
00:37:42And it was transformative.
00:37:44It was just extraordinary.
00:37:46Uh, so anyway, I'm sorry to go on.
00:37:48No, no.
00:37:48It's your story.
00:37:49And here I'm talking about Kevin.
00:37:51No, no.
00:37:51Yeah.
00:37:51That was your impression.
00:37:52I want, I want, I want to add something about Kevin.
00:37:54Yes.
00:37:55Um, he's backwoods.
00:37:57Yes.
00:37:57Um, I, the GPS carried me almost to the road he lived on.
00:38:03Yes.
00:38:03And, and I knew it couldn't have been the road.
00:38:06So I had to drive back another five miles to get signal to call him.
00:38:11Okay.
00:38:11And so he came and met me.
00:38:14And so I came back down and he was right there close to where I was at.
00:38:18Uh, and he said, pull down there by the church, the old church.
00:38:23And, uh, I pulled up in there and he pulled inside me and we got out, uh, whatever.
00:38:29And I said, Kevin, this is not a good way to start our relationship meeting at a church.
00:38:34Um, but anyway, it was just, uh, it was very nice.
00:38:39Oh yeah.
00:38:40He's got a, he definitely has a sense of humor.
00:38:42Um, so after, uh, after Kevin, it had to be all downhill.
00:38:46Even, even coming here, even coming here has to be a disappointment after Kevin, but you do have rich here and you got lay in here.
00:38:53So it can't be all that bad.
00:38:55Um, so you, uh, uh, what happened after Kevin?
00:38:58Well, I did a 23 hour trip straight through from, um, Kevin to Montana to, uh, a family in Montana, uh, Ann and Jeremy Hughes.
00:39:14Ooh, boy.
00:39:15What was the experience like going from, uh, Kevin to Ann Hughes?
00:39:19It was much different.
00:39:22Um, they, uh, it was actually one of two people where I didn't actually go to their home, you know?
00:39:31So on it, this is a, it's supposed to be a family tour of those who are part of God's family.
00:39:37And there's of all the people you met, there's only two that didn't invite you into their home.
00:39:44Is that correct?
00:39:44Yes.
00:39:45And one was, uh, H and the other one was, uh, Beth.
00:39:52Oh my goodness.
00:39:54The two that have just gone ballistic and are fewing vomit everywhere, pretending that they're right.
00:40:01And that's just amazing.
00:40:04They're the only two out of everybody I met that said, nope, you're not coming to my home.
00:40:08And I'd really never thought about it at the time, you know, but, um, but as I look back, I'm like, I never went to their homes, you know?
00:40:15Wow.
00:40:16And that's just, um, yeah.
00:40:20You've also shared that in particularly this one, that the woman that is threatening our good friend, uh, Dr. Jeff, trying to blackmail Dr. Jeff, which is really, and even trying to blackmail him through his daughter, threatening his daughter.
00:40:32Really nasty kind of stuff, uh, that, um, she was, would you tell me, tell me what your response is?
00:40:42Because this morning we were having breakfast together and you, uh, volunteered something that you said, maybe, maybe this is not the brightest, uh, the sharpest.
00:40:52Yeah, I got legalism, um, just, uh, theology, um, just kind of religious.
00:41:03Yeah.
00:41:03Confused religious.
00:41:04Yeah.
00:41:04Yeah.
00:41:04Yeah.
00:41:05Came out of a Hebrew roots, uh, cult and never really left it.
00:41:09Right.
00:41:10And so I, uh, okay.
00:41:15Yeah.
00:41:15Yeah.
00:41:16So that was the one of a couple of people that still had a lot of religiosity, which means you
00:41:22can't be covenant.
00:41:22If you're, if you're still, uh, influenced by religion and in her case, the religion would
00:41:29have been a blend between, uh, messianic Christianity and rabbinic Judaism.
00:41:35That would be the, uh, uh, the Hebrew roots.
00:41:38You never walked away.
00:41:39So you never walked away.
00:41:40You can't, if you don't walk away, you can't walk into Yahweh's, uh, family.
00:41:44Um, all right.
00:41:45So you, you, uh, then had a chance to, uh, meet some others while you're out in there in
00:41:49California.
00:41:49Did you meet my, uh, my, my good buddy, Captain Kirk?
00:41:53I, I did.
00:41:55Um, wookie, they would, um, yeah.
00:42:01I want to tell you about the next person I saw first.
00:42:04Okay, please.
00:42:04Um, I went from Montana to Washington, um, right outside of Seattle, a place called Tacoma.
00:42:13Uh, met with Lee Templer and, um, and I pull up and I meet Lee and I'm, I'm giving him some
00:42:23cards and some of my mom's crab apple jelly recipe and some hot, uh, Scott's barbecue sauce.
00:42:30I give this to everybody.
00:42:31Uh, it comes from North Carolina only vinegar based barbecue sauce and, um, Lee's like, well,
00:42:38where do you think you're going?
00:42:39He says, I've already rented you a cabin for two days.
00:42:42And he says, we're skydiving tomorrow.
00:42:46And I've looked at him and I'm like, well, I'm scared of heights.
00:42:52And he started laughing.
00:42:56Kevin called him and put him up to that.
00:42:59And so they kind of set me up.
00:43:02And so, uh, Kevin is a rask.
00:43:05I take back every night.
00:43:07But it was just a great time.
00:43:10And then from there to Noah.
00:43:12So he was, he was genuine.
00:43:13Oh, Lee's just awesome.
00:43:16We, we watched live shows while I was there and he just took care of me.
00:43:21He leads, we actually, he took me to Mount Rainier and, um, we had a blast.
00:43:28We saw this yellow sign on the tree as we were going up and it had waffle on a stick.
00:43:35And I forget who said it.
00:43:37It says no dead waffle on a stick.
00:43:40And we were laughing so hard.
00:43:42We went up and had a, uh, dead God on a stick is the symbol of Christianity, which is just so appalling.
00:43:49But I like that.
00:43:50No waffle on the stick.
00:43:51We actually took pictures at Mount Rainier.
00:43:54And as we came down, we stopped at that sign and had our pictures.
00:43:57Okay.
00:43:57Both of them with the, with the, uh, waffle on a stick.
00:44:01But, you know, Lee's just super great guy.
00:44:04And, uh, then I went and met Noah in Oregon.
00:44:08Yes.
00:44:09And just, uh, beautiful family.
00:44:11Yes.
00:44:12With Lonnie and Wyatt.
00:44:14And, um, and I, I got some, um, wine from him.
00:44:18It's like four bottles.
00:44:19And they have Hebrew.
00:44:20He's a vineyard.
00:44:21I mean, he has his own vineyard.
00:44:23And he, his labels actually cite translations from Yaliyawa.
00:44:27Yes.
00:44:28He is such a giving, caring, supportive man.
00:44:33And he has actually now become really, uh, supportive of what we're doing.
00:44:38He is engaged.
00:44:39He is, he's rock solid.
00:44:41I have a huge, uh, appreciation.
00:44:45Love Noah and his family.
00:44:46There's a guy that, that started off.
00:44:48I think it was because of Kirk was his mentor and the, uh, in this growth.
00:44:55And, and that's how I came to know him was really through Kirk.
00:44:58And boy, has he ever taken off recently.
00:45:02I mean, he, he got the message that the covenant was for contributors.
00:45:07Yeah.
00:45:07Well, likes work.
00:45:08He likes men who are men and who are willing to, uh, to get their hands dirty and, uh, and dig in.
00:45:15And yeah, he's one of those guys.
00:45:18Yeah.
00:45:18But Lee and, uh, and no, both.
00:45:20Yeah.
00:45:21Yeah.
00:45:21Okay.
00:45:21Yeah.
00:45:22All right.
00:45:22From there.
00:45:23Well, you're really, uh, you, you've, you've done a nice rebound since, uh, the, uh, the end.
00:45:27Oh, yes.
00:45:28Yes.
00:45:28That's nice.
00:45:29And then next was Matt.
00:45:31Oh my goodness.
00:45:31In Sacramento.
00:45:32And, um, and I, I just can't imagine the, uh, the experience.
00:45:37Cause I mean, you're, uh, you're all kind of old country boy.
00:45:40Right.
00:45:40Right.
00:45:41And, uh, and Matt, uh, is, uh, got his hair a little longer and, uh, he is, uh, he is,
00:45:49was a drug addict.
00:45:51I mean, he was major strung out on, uh, on drugs and you guys would have been the antithesis
00:45:57of one another, but I want to tell you, I, you know, I can read every post that is put
00:46:03on, uh, the Facebook site and everyone that responds to me on, uh, on X.
00:46:08That man is sharp.
00:46:11Yes, he is.
00:46:12He knows.
00:46:13Yeah.
00:46:14Well, he is articulate.
00:46:17He is one of the, the best to judge a post and to say what is right and wrong with that
00:46:23post.
00:46:23He is just, wow.
00:46:25That, when you consider where he has come from and where he has grown to, you know what
00:46:33it tells you?
00:46:35He wanted it.
00:46:36He did.
00:46:37He wanted it.
00:46:37He wanted it.
00:46:38And, and, and it's pain volumes.
00:46:39He, he now has a genuine purpose in his life and it is, it's amazing to see him grow.
00:46:48So I happen to be a, a huge fan of, uh, Matt.
00:46:53I'm trying to, uh, to encourage him because I appreciate many of the posts that he makes
00:46:58are really intellectually stimulating.
00:47:00Yes, it is.
00:47:01So that is a, that is a testament that it doesn't matter where you are in life.
00:47:07Yes.
00:47:07Uh, if you've got the right attitude, you got the want to, God can transform your life.
00:47:13And he has that young man's, so you, uh, so my guess is that initially he would have
00:47:19been a little bit gun shy, not because of you, cause he's really, uh, a solid character,
00:47:24but he, he's taking care of his mother.
00:47:27Uh, and, uh, she is not all, uh, necessarily, uh, uh, supportive of all of this.
00:47:33And, uh, you know, he's living with all those cats.
00:47:36So him bringing you, uh, uh, to the house would have been something that would have been
00:47:40perhaps uncomfortable for a grandmother and a mother and he, and he doesn't want to do
00:47:44that.
00:47:45But how did that all work out?
00:47:46I think it worked out wonderfully.
00:47:48Yeah.
00:47:49Um, because.
00:47:50Cause you went to meet her, didn't you?
00:47:52And Matt didn't know me.
00:47:53Yeah.
00:47:54You know?
00:47:54And, um, so we talked and of course, um, and I think it's his grandmother and, uh, she
00:48:02came to the door and she was like, um, cause it was, the sun was out and she's like, you
00:48:08need to get your head under that umbrella.
00:48:10And I'm like, yes, ma'am.
00:48:12Yes, ma'am.
00:48:12And so I put my head up under the, then she came back.
00:48:16Here's some water.
00:48:16You need some water.
00:48:17And I said, yes, ma'am.
00:48:19And, um, so got the water and before I got ready to leave, I went in to use the bathroom
00:48:25and I spoke with her and, um, and she's just a sweet little lady.
00:48:29And, um, anyway, I charmed her a little bit before I left.
00:48:33And, and, uh, I think Matt appreciated that, you know, and I think it went, it went really
00:48:41well, you know, and, uh, I'm not out here trying to convert everybody.
00:48:46No.
00:48:46You know, I'm, I'm just.
00:48:48Sometimes the only thing you can really do is just be nice to people.
00:48:51Show the, what, uh, what you, the comfort and the confidence that you have in knowing,
00:48:57the joy you have in knowing.
00:48:58Yes.
00:48:58And sometimes it'll take root and, uh, grow and other times it won't.
00:49:03Right.
00:49:03And so there was no reason ever to sit there.
00:49:07Let's have a conversation about, yeah, if she brings it up, you're prepared to do so.
00:49:11If she doesn't bring it up, then all you can do is reinforce that you had a lovely conversation.
00:49:17Exactly.
00:49:17Matt, and that you think the world of him and, uh, that'll at least plant a seed.
00:49:22And that, and that's the purpose of these shirts, Craig is.
00:49:25It's, I'm talking to everybody I see without saying a word.
00:49:31Yes.
00:49:31And if someone asked me a question about my shirt.
00:49:35Right.
00:49:35Then they have opened that door.
00:49:38Right.
00:49:39And, and then I'm willing to go through that door and explain as long as they're willing to listen.
00:49:44But, um, but yeah, that's, you know, from there I went to Mariah.
00:49:49Moriah.
00:49:50Oh, yes.
00:49:51And, uh, she was the one that, uh, scolded all rich here.
00:49:54Rich wouldn't rich and I wouldn't have been together without Mariah.
00:49:58Mariah.
00:49:58Um, actually Mariah, that was a beneficiary of you.
00:50:01Cause you gave her the gift of the Facebook, um, account, uh, because, um, for some reason,
00:50:08face, uh, the X account.
00:50:10Yeah.
00:50:10Because X would not accept my application or hers to be a, uh, a certified account.
00:50:17Yeah.
00:50:17There was no way we could, uh, get the certification, but, uh, rich gifted it to her.
00:50:24I hit your own, your one and only donate, but.
00:50:27Yes.
00:50:27And, uh, and did the same thing for me.
00:50:29Um, but, uh, she is, uh, um, among the women we've come to know, she is probably the most
00:50:39knowledgeable and among the most intelligent, uh, and the most supportive.
00:50:47Yeah.
00:50:47She is, um, she's Yawa's type as it comes to women.
00:50:53Looking forward to hanging out with her in the forever.
00:50:56In the forever.
00:50:57Yeah.
00:50:57So, uh, uh, you and she are particular still very close.
00:51:02Correct.
00:51:03Yeah.
00:51:03Yeah.
00:51:04And you have a good relationship with Mariah.
00:51:07Oh yeah.
00:51:07I pulled up.
00:51:08I remember pulling up.
00:51:09Your eyes even light up when you were talking about it.
00:51:12Yeah.
00:51:12She, she gave me the big hug right out of the gate, you know, and then invited me into
00:51:17her home and her husband cooked chicken on the grill.
00:51:21He even, uh, I was actually telling Rich earlier, um, his name's Russell and, um, and
00:51:27he's not covenant, but that's okay.
00:51:29You know, me and Mariah, we talked and he was cooking.
00:51:34Then he come and got me.
00:51:35He said, Shannon, let me show you something.
00:51:37So Russell carried me to this little room and it has a little, I guess for like, if you're
00:51:43playing a guitar, it holds the sound in the room.
00:51:47Acoustics or whatever it's called, but he sat there and turned his computer on and got
00:51:52his guitar out and played me the songs and it was just really awesome.
00:51:57Great guy.
00:51:57Wow.
00:51:58Great guy.
00:51:58You can imagine a guy like that being that supportive of his wife's dream.
00:52:02Yes.
00:52:02Yes.
00:52:03Yes.
00:52:03That's lovely.
00:52:04Yes.
00:52:05It was really nice.
00:52:05So he had a great conversation with Mariah and her husband was, was very kind.
00:52:10Uh, yeah.
00:52:11And they had a spare room.
00:52:12I slept that night.
00:52:13Wow.
00:52:14Got up next morning, head to Carmel.
00:52:16Okay.
00:52:17Carmel.
00:52:18Yes.
00:52:18I know some people that live in Carmel.
00:52:21My, uh, good friend, one of my closest, dearest, most wonderful friends.
00:52:28Unfortunately, um, he is, uh, he and Sylvia are both, um, struggling health wise.
00:52:34Um, I, at this point, I think it's fair to, uh, to say that, uh, cause I've talked about
00:52:42it so often now that, uh, that, uh, our, my good buddy Kirk has had a biopsy yesterday.
00:52:47It was a tough, uh, procedure.
00:52:50I will know in a couple of days, uh, um, the results of it.
00:52:54And all the while, um, his, uh, love of his life is his beloved wife, Sylvia, uh, is having
00:53:02these migraines that cause, uh, a dizzying effect.
00:53:06Um, uh, she is, um, she's one of my very favorite women because she has attitude.
00:53:14And, uh, Kirk has been my co-host of, uh, these programs for years because he is such
00:53:20a excellent student of the Torah, uh, and just a genuinely nice man.
00:53:29I mean, just, he is just, he has character.
00:53:33I couldn't have put it better.
00:53:34He really has character.
00:53:35So anyway, I prejudice your whole story about Kirk.
00:53:37I'm sorry, but when you, when you just, when you just mentioned Kirk, uh, you know, I, I,
00:53:42I have the tendency to want to glow because, um, I love Kirk and I love the fact that Kirk
00:53:49and Sylvia are together.
00:53:50I think they are a joy and we're hoping both of them, um, uh, yes, are yet healthy soon.
00:53:57I miss meeting Sylvia because I believe she was going through those migraines when I was
00:54:03there.
00:54:04And, uh, but Kirk was just so homey, showed me everything, showed me his studio, her studio,
00:54:10just.
00:54:11Yeah.
00:54:12She was his student.
00:54:13Yes.
00:54:14And just a wonderful visit.
00:54:17He, he showed me some of the old books and, and then he showed me what he did on his computer.
00:54:22Of course, Kevin did too.
00:54:24And I'm like, it's all over my head.
00:54:25And so, but I entertained watching them, but I'm not a tech guy.
00:54:31Amazing that Kirk could turn on the computer actually, because he's more analog than I am.
00:54:36But, uh, that's, uh, that's progress right there for sure.
00:54:39Yeah.
00:54:40Yeah.
00:54:40But super great guy.
00:54:42He is.
00:54:43And he just, and he's loved and you know, he is in the middle of art world.
00:54:47He's a great artist.
00:54:48Yes.
00:54:49Oh, beautiful.
00:54:50Beautiful.
00:54:50Just their home is just full of art.
00:54:53It's just beautiful.
00:54:54Uh, Sylvia says my husband is well hung in my home.
00:55:00Uh, so we had a wonderful conversation with a wonderful man.
00:55:04You had to, so now you're like great guy, great guy, a great woman, great guy.
00:55:09You are in a role, man.
00:55:11You are saying this, this hanging out with Yawa's family forever.
00:55:15This is going to be good stuff.
00:55:16These are really, really good people.
00:55:18It's just been an amazing journey.
00:55:21Yeah.
00:55:21Okay.
00:55:22So you were in, and Carmen, where'd you go after that?
00:55:24Oh, what a place called Solvang.
00:55:27Oh, Solvang.
00:55:28Yes.
00:55:29I know.
00:55:29I happen to have a lot of memories of Solvang.
00:55:32I used to go there, uh, probably four times a year.
00:55:35Very cute community.
00:55:37Really cute community.
00:55:38And there's some nice wineries there and some good eateries and, uh, some nice stores to,
00:55:42uh, shop.
00:55:43And yeah, I was, I liked, uh, Solvang and I liked, uh, the whole valley around it.
00:55:49And I used to go to the, the Alisol, which was a, a, uh, guest ranch, uh, back in the day,
00:55:54golf course, horseback riding, fly fishing, that kind of thing.
00:55:57Right.
00:55:58Uh, real rustic and rural, but, but so I just have wonderful memories growing up.
00:56:04Yes.
00:56:04And even as an adult in and out of Solvang.
00:56:07Uh, but of course, then you would have been exposed to the person who has gone, uh, all,
00:56:11uh, crazy on us.
00:56:12Yes.
00:56:13I met with them at a restaurant and, um, and it was, uh,
00:56:19very different than, uh, and, uh, Kirk or, uh, or Noah or very, very different.
00:56:27Yes.
00:56:28And, uh, and I'm not looking to bash, you know what I mean?
00:56:33But I, I felt religion, um, and, uh, let's probably caps it off just by saying that right
00:56:44there, you know, so I know I was, they asked me about in Leviticus, um, about some of the
00:56:55laws and what you eat and all.
00:56:57And, and I was, I look at it as fatherly advice.
00:57:02I, I, I, and I asked him, I said, do you, do you think if you were to eat that, you're
00:57:08not covenant?
00:57:08And they said, well, yeah, if you do that, you're not covenant.
00:57:11And I'm, I'm like, where does it say that?
00:57:14Oh, they couldn't point out where it says that, could they?
00:57:17No, but I, I'm, I was like, anyway, they wouldn't, we couldn't deal with the fact that
00:57:21in the body and, uh, Yahweh inspired Moshe to tell us, actually, it's Yahweh speaking
00:57:25through Moshe's lips to say that, uh, you can eat anything you want, just do so thoughtfully.
00:57:31Right.
00:57:32Fatherly advice.
00:57:33Fatherly advice.
00:57:34Um, yeah.
00:57:35So, uh, to make a religion of, uh, food and to predicate one's relationship with God on,
00:57:42uh, dietary laws is to be exceedingly religious and exceedingly wrong.
00:57:48All right.
00:57:49But, um, so be it.
00:57:51All right.
00:57:51So, uh, what happened after that?
00:57:53Because there's another fellow that's not too far away from all of that.
00:57:57Yes.
00:57:58I went, um, from there to Phoenix, Arizona.
00:58:01One of my very, very favorite people in the entire world, who, by the way, is being blackmailed
00:58:08and harassed by Ms. Religious, I mean, terribly blackmailed and harassed.
00:58:14I hate to hear that.
00:58:15Harassing his daughter, threatening him, uh, threatening to blackmail him.
00:58:21It's just hideously ugly.
00:58:23So, uh, when I, uh, speak, uh, and I don't sound like I'm very kind to the religiosity
00:58:30of that woman, she is threatening to blackmail my very, very good friend and projecting her
00:58:37faults all over him.
00:58:39Uh, that does not sit well with me.
00:58:41So anyway, you met, uh, Dr. Jeff.
00:58:45What'd you think of Dr. Jeff?
00:58:46He's just, I felt like I was in a doctor's office cause I had a little bit of sniffle and
00:58:52he said, what's going on with your nose.
00:58:54And he said, it could be sinusitis.
00:58:56And then I coughed a little bit and he's okay.
00:59:01Why do you smoke?
00:59:02I said, yes, sir.
00:59:05He said, how many do you smoke a day?
00:59:07And I told him and then he gave me these grass fed beef food out of his
00:59:12refrigerator, some healthy stuff and healthy snacks and healthy water.
00:59:16And, and he's just fixing me up and you know, super great guy.
00:59:21Uh, Jeff is more than just a physician that, uh, knows how to perform, uh, emergency medical
00:59:28procedures, particularly, uh, pulmonary related.
00:59:31Uh, he is a holistic, uh, doctor in the sense of he has studied the human body and its response
00:59:40to various kinds of, uh, foods, uh, and nutrients and what it responds favorably to and unfavorably
00:59:49too.
00:59:51And he has some really interesting teachings.
00:59:53We should probably share them someday, but he is a big fan of the Yahweh diet.
00:59:58You ought to be a carnivore.
01:00:00You, uh, you know, God says we're going to offer the, uh, the lamb, the, uh, the bull,
01:00:06the, uh, the goat.
01:00:08Um, these are things that are good for you to eat.
01:00:10Right.
01:00:11And he will talk about what it does for your body, for your brain, for your overall health.
01:00:15Um, he is really an expert on the nutritional value of things.
01:00:20So I'm not surprised that he did that because he's going to look at you as a, as your family.
01:00:25And he wants to care for you.
01:00:26Every conversation I have with them or Leah has with him, he always finds a way to work
01:00:31in a, some advice to keep us healthy.
01:00:35Yes.
01:00:36Excellent advice.
01:00:37Yeah.
01:00:38Excellent advice.
01:00:39Those you have were pretty well.
01:00:40Yes.
01:00:41Genuine.
01:00:42Very.
01:00:43Yeah.
01:00:44Just solid guy.
01:00:46Solid.
01:00:47Family.
01:00:48Yeah.
01:00:49Uh, I consider him family.
01:00:51Yeah.
01:00:52Yeah.
01:00:53Me as well.
01:00:54Everybody's just.
01:00:55Yeah.
01:00:56He is the kind.
01:00:57He is such good family that, uh, I I'd lay down my life for that guy in a heartbeat.
01:01:03Yeah.
01:01:04Just super.
01:01:05Yeah.
01:01:06Yeah.
01:01:07Super.
01:01:08Yeah.
01:01:09Um, but that wasn't the end of your tour.
01:01:10No, I actually went to a place called, um, Roswell, New Mexico.
01:01:15Yes.
01:01:16And ground zero for all sorts of.
01:01:19Yes.
01:01:20There is an alien invasions.
01:01:21I've been there.
01:01:22It's a pretty backward place.
01:01:23It is not exactly the prettiest place in America, but nonetheless.
01:01:27Yeah.
01:01:28It was really cool because, uh, I met with Ron and Judy Perselli and they invited me in
01:01:36their home and, uh, me and him went to Sam's.
01:01:39We drove through the downtown.
01:01:41There's all these Martian shops.
01:01:43Oh yeah.
01:01:44Yeah.
01:01:45And the Martian museum.
01:01:46Oh yeah.
01:01:47Yeah.
01:01:48Yeah.
01:01:49The aliens of, uh, Roswell, they make a whole tourist thing out of the supposed aliens.
01:01:52Yeah.
01:01:53Yeah.
01:01:54And so it was.
01:01:55The topography is actually pretty.
01:01:56It's just that it's kind of a.
01:01:57Right.
01:01:58It's kind of weird in that regard.
01:01:59Yeah.
01:02:00Okay.
01:02:01The places I could go to a place I had heard of Roswell.
01:02:04Yeah.
01:02:05And, um, and it's, you know.
01:02:07Right.
01:02:08Um, what it speaks about when you think of Martians and area 51, when you hear, of course, you
01:02:14know, but we, we went and they made me enchiladas.
01:02:17They were awesome.
01:02:18Um, I come into our home.
01:02:20We'll make foot.
01:02:21We'll make food together.
01:02:22It made food together.
01:02:24I slept there that night and it was just another great, great visit.
01:02:30You know, family.
01:02:31Yeah.
01:02:32Family.
01:02:33Yeah.
01:02:34Family.
01:02:35Yeah.
01:02:36Just, you know, just super people.
01:02:38Super people.
01:02:39Just great.
01:02:40And, uh, I left there and I actually went and see my daughter for a few days there in
01:02:44Waco.
01:02:45And then.
01:02:46Waco.
01:02:47Waco.
01:02:48Waco.
01:02:49Yes.
01:02:50Oh my goodness.
01:02:51I've spent, um, more time in Waco than I can.
01:02:54Uh, I will never forget.
01:02:56Um, my, uh, youngest son.
01:02:59Got his PhD in medicinal chemistry from Baylor.
01:03:02And there were many moments of that that did not go well.
01:03:06And so I was constantly in Waco as his advocate.
01:03:11Okay.
01:03:12Um, and so, yeah, I know, I know Waco, Texas.
01:03:16I I've been in Waco where it was 110 degrees at 10 o'clock at night.
01:03:21Um, and I've been at Waco at football games where I did not want to have to
01:03:28stand at attention and put my hand over my heart as they had the opening prayer and the
01:03:34national anthem where I would try to sneak out before those things.
01:03:38So I would be in a concession area, not have to do that.
01:03:41Right.
01:03:42And, uh, and had to be assaulted for sneaking out because you, uh, that was not acceptable.
01:03:49And, uh, the religiosity of, uh, of Texas where it's, it's, uh, the, uh, they don't ask you if you go to church.
01:03:56They ask you what church you go to.
01:03:57Right.
01:03:58You know, it's, it's guns, church and football.
01:04:02Mm hmm.
01:04:03Yep.
01:04:04Um, so I, I understand there's, I mean, I, I, I saw that there's some places that are decent and nice about Waco.
01:04:12The Baylor campus is beautiful.
01:04:14For example, that's a tough place to live.
01:04:17Yes.
01:04:18So your daughter lives in Waco, Texas.
01:04:19Yeah.
01:04:20My condolences.
01:04:21But she's, uh, since got married.
01:04:24Okay.
01:04:25And they're moved to Springfield, Missouri.
01:04:27Okay.
01:04:28And they found them a place there.
01:04:29So she's.
01:04:30Oh, so he's out of Waco.
01:04:31Yeah.
01:04:32Out of Waco.
01:04:33Congratulations.
01:04:34Yeah.
01:04:35Okay.
01:04:36Yeah.
01:04:37So I left from there and went up above Dallas.
01:04:39What's the name of that town that JB and Patricia live in?
01:04:43Plano.
01:04:44Was that, uh, uh, there's Fort Worth, Plano, but a bunch of towns.
01:04:49Right above.
01:04:50Can't think of the name.
01:04:51I had a hard time.
01:04:52Okay.
01:04:53Kato Mills.
01:04:54Okay.
01:04:55Kato Mills.
01:04:56And, uh, met with them.
01:04:58With JB.
01:04:59With JB.
01:05:00Oh my.
01:05:01Patricia cooked me an awesome meal.
01:05:04Visited with them.
01:05:05Uh, Daylon, their daughter.
01:05:08Daylon was there.
01:05:09Yeah.
01:05:10Yeah.
01:05:11Just.
01:05:12JB is a, JB is a rare find.
01:05:14And by the way, if I'm not waxing poetic about some of the people that you've met, it's just
01:05:19that we haven't spent a lot of time together.
01:05:22So I don't know them as well as others.
01:05:24It's, it's not a slight on anybody.
01:05:26Exactly.
01:05:27Just that they're, you know, like JB, I did all of those co-hosting shows with him for
01:05:31many years.
01:05:32So I, and then he and I would exchange emails because he was one of the people that was
01:05:37really good about if he was translating something and didn't see what I saw, he'd write and say,
01:05:42how did you get here?
01:05:44And, uh, and occasionally we would disagree.
01:05:47And when we disagree rather than saying, um, that, uh, I think he is wrong.
01:05:52What I would say instead is I think he makes a very good point.
01:05:56Uh, here is his logic.
01:05:58Here is my logic.
01:05:59I'm not trying to encourage you to go one way or the other, because he has a very thoughtful
01:06:04presentation of this.
01:06:06My understanding is like this.
01:06:08His is like that.
01:06:09And, uh, and I think both have merit and we shouldn't be dogmatic.
01:06:14We should learn everything we can from these.
01:06:17Exactly.
01:06:18So, and I, the thing also I liked about JB is that he was one of those who had been an agnostic
01:06:27and came to recognize the value of somebody who was willing to say I'm wrong.
01:06:35I think there's a better way to convey this.
01:06:38And here's what I think is a more accurate answer.
01:06:41And the, it's so rare that somebody would do that.
01:06:45And it resonated with him.
01:06:47We gave him a sense of real confidence.
01:06:49I love JB.
01:06:50Uh, super.
01:06:51Yeah.
01:06:52Just genuine, super faint.
01:06:54Good family.
01:06:55Yeah.
01:06:56And intellectually.
01:06:57Yes.
01:06:58Yes.
01:06:59No Java, not only from the books, but his own translations.
01:07:03Yes.
01:07:04Smart guy.
01:07:05Yes.
01:07:06Oh, so I'm delighted that you got to see, uh, JB.
01:07:09Okay.
01:07:10Yeah.
01:07:11Cause when I looked on the screen, like on the Shabbat family hour, I'm like, well, I met him.
01:07:16I met him.
01:07:17Yeah.
01:07:18I just haven't met Craig and Rich.
01:07:19You met all those characters.
01:07:20Yeah.
01:07:21You met all those characters.
01:07:22Yeah.
01:07:23Yeah.
01:07:24So it was really neat to, you know, see my, cause I consider.
01:07:26And here you are in the chair.
01:07:27Yeah.
01:07:28And I'm, it's all family.
01:07:29To me, this is family.
01:07:31Yeah.
01:07:32I'm visiting family.
01:07:33It is our family.
01:07:34And my, what, what I call my forever family.
01:07:37Yeah.
01:07:38Correct.
01:07:39And so, you know, yeah.
01:07:41And from there I, I come back and took a break.
01:07:44Yeah.
01:07:45And, uh, and then my next journey would have been Northeast.
01:07:49And so.
01:07:50And there is a, yesterday you went out of your way to, uh, address a father and son that of
01:07:59all the people you met along the way left one of the most dramatic impressions on you,
01:08:05uh, because of the father and son.
01:08:07And maybe it's, it heralds back to you being a dad with a son and seeing a son that was so
01:08:14brilliant and a father that was so close and they're, and they're tie in with the Iowa.
01:08:19Yeah.
01:08:20That there was a father and son that got your attention along the way.
01:08:23Yes.
01:08:24Yeah.
01:08:25And we met at a restaurant and of course it had nothing to do with anything other than,
01:08:31I know the mother and wife is not covenant and I think is not, and is against it.
01:08:39Okay.
01:08:40Right.
01:08:41And, and William and Jake and Jay and he kind of reminds me of my son kind of tall slinky.
01:08:51Cause my son was just a little pencil, but it was, he smiled.
01:08:58I'm sitting there looking at him.
01:08:59He's across and he's just smiling.
01:09:01Just he's writing.
01:09:02It's just shot.
01:09:03The whole room's just lit up from his smile.
01:09:06From my perspective, just beautiful relationship.
01:09:10Father, son, Yahweh.
01:09:13And I, I just, he just glowed, you know, and I think it could be me thinking of my son too.
01:09:22Sure.
01:09:23Oh, absolutely.
01:09:24And, but it was beautiful.
01:09:26And celebrating that.
01:09:27That's a positive thing.
01:09:28Yes.
01:09:29Yeah.
01:09:30Beautiful.
01:09:31Yeah.
01:09:32He made me cry today.
01:09:33Jake did.
01:09:34Jake produced a song.
01:09:35I posted it on our, on our site.
01:09:38That takes the translation of the 22nd is more where it is.
01:09:43Dode expressing, uh, enduring crucifixion to fulfill Passover as the Passover lamb.
01:09:52And he set that, uh, that story to, uh, to music, uh, with a marvelous voiceover.
01:09:59And it was, it is, uh, my wife.
01:10:04If you can listen to it and not cry, then you're a, you're a tougher guy than me because
01:10:08it got, it got to me, uh, to hear our King speak of what he endured and the way that was
01:10:16presented.
01:10:17I would encourage you to, uh, listen to it.
01:10:19It was interesting that you shared that about.
01:10:21I will.
01:10:22I will.
01:10:23So we, um, we came together because, uh, my, uh, my wife, uh, has, uh, um, she, uh, grew
01:10:34up, uh, well, her, the 17 years prior to me knowing her was with a, uh, a shorty, um, looking
01:10:45a little like Wookiee same breed and this dog and she were just inseparable.
01:10:52And, uh, so she wanted to, uh, do what is nigh an impossible.
01:10:59She wanted to acquire another shorty and to see if, uh, if, you know, that shorty would
01:11:05be similar, uh, to, uh, uh, to her Gucci.
01:11:09Uh, Gucci was named because she, uh, chewed on a pair of Gucci shoes.
01:11:14Uh, so, uh, she sees this, uh, this dog and, uh, in East Texas.
01:11:20And we had a friend that flew in from East Texas with, uh, with Wookiee.
01:11:26And, um, and well, Wookiee gets along marvelously with, uh, with Leah.
01:11:33Wookiee is kind of a guy's guy.
01:11:35And so he, uh, he likes to hang with the guys.
01:11:38Like here he is in, uh, in this room.
01:11:40We got three guys.
01:11:41Wookiee is sitting there in his throne, just content as he can be with the guys.
01:11:46And so, uh, uh, Wookiee will spend more time around me than, than was Leah.
01:11:52And, uh, and so she says, you know, I really wanted a, uh, a dog that I relate to like I did before.
01:12:00And so she, um, said, okay, we know we can't have another boy with Wookiee because Wookiee wouldn't tolerate that.
01:12:07So she decided she was going to find a girl version of Wookiee.
01:12:12And she did.
01:12:14That's Kara.
01:12:15And, um, Kara came from Arkansas, or Kansas, if you will.
01:12:21And, um, there's no way to get her here.
01:12:26And so, uh, Leah was going to just fly to Florida, have the dog brought to the hotel in, uh, in Fort Lauderdale.
01:12:33And then she said, Oh, what the heck we, we have a family here.
01:12:36I'll just ask and see if there's anybody that might be interested in, in bringing Kara to us.
01:12:42And I probably wish 30 seconds.
01:12:44And you said, I'll do it.
01:12:46All right.
01:12:47Yes.
01:12:48At the time, did you know how much work, uh, puppies were?
01:12:52I forgot.
01:12:53We forgot.
01:12:54Yes.
01:12:55Yeah.
01:12:56So this was quite a deal because, uh, Kara is a bundle.
01:13:00Isn't she?
01:13:01Very much so.
01:13:02Uh, she is a wiggler.
01:13:03She is a goer.
01:13:05She is, in fact, she's more aggressive than Wookiee.
01:13:08Yes.
01:13:09Yeah.
01:13:10She'll chew on your fingers, bite your ears, uh, nip at your nose.
01:13:15She is just, she is all go.
01:13:18She is sleeping right now.
01:13:20Oh my God.
01:13:21So Leah just walked in.
01:13:23So, um, they had, uh, the next day, uh, Kara was delivered after you volunteered.
01:13:29Kara was delivered and you've been hanging out on, uh, on an air mattress because Kara doesn't
01:13:34do a laundry.
01:13:35For the last eight days.
01:13:36Yeah.
01:13:37Last eight days.
01:13:38Uh, and we've been counting down the days because we wanted to meet both you and, uh,
01:13:43and Kara.
01:13:44So you arrived at about, um, five o'clock last night with, uh, I've been counting down the
01:13:49days too, so that I could deliver to her.
01:13:51Yeah.
01:13:52Not only so you can come here, but also so you can get a full night's sleep.
01:13:55Right.
01:13:56So, yeah, here we, uh, here we are and, uh, and we will, we'll do a future show where
01:14:02you're, uh, we get to show off, uh, Kara.
01:14:04Kara right now is napping.
01:14:06Yeah.
01:14:07So this is a very good thing.
01:14:08I'm going to let that happen.
01:14:10And enjoy this time.
01:14:11Yeah.
01:14:12So we'll enjoy this.
01:14:13Uh, we'll enjoy this moment.
01:14:15And so we had the first chance really to get into know each other and chat, uh, last night
01:14:19and, and, uh, throughout, uh, today, you've kind of seen what our life is like here, which
01:14:24is that, um, um, we live for a single purpose.
01:14:28Yes.
01:14:29Our life is, is exceedingly simple.
01:14:32Great.
01:14:33We get out in the morning and we go all day for a singular cause.
01:14:36Yes.
01:14:37And, uh, that is to share what we've come to know about Yahweh.
01:14:40We're thrilled to do it.
01:14:42And it is a great honor and distinction to be in this family and to share what we know.
01:14:48And, and we are living here in this, uh, lovely paradise.
01:14:53Yes.
01:14:54As you saw, this is our gang.
01:14:56Yahweh has, as he said, when I was, uh, wanting to pass on having to go back and update prophet
01:15:03of doom is goddamn religion.
01:15:04And I said, you know, I'd rather not have to do that.
01:15:07Uh, what I got in response is I've taken care of you and now you take care of my people.
01:15:12And yeah, you look around here and you, you'd see, this is really a lovely place.
01:15:17Yes.
01:15:18Yeah.
01:15:19My guess is where we are.
01:15:20And this is exactly as you would have thought.
01:15:23Yes.
01:15:24Exactly.
01:15:25Yeah.
01:15:26And you get to see Rich while we're here too.
01:15:29Just a bonus.
01:15:30And just as a, as a special bonus, uh, Rich.
01:15:35Uh, anyway, we're, uh, we're going to, yeah, we will do a, uh, another show.
01:15:41Um, when we returned to the text that we were reading, uh, Yashaya, the fourth chapter,
01:15:46as he presents, uh, more information about the intent and purpose of, uh, Sukkah.
01:15:53And we will return to that.
01:15:54But there really is nothing, um, about Sukkah that isn't encapsulated with family coming together.
01:16:01And it's a wonderful time for me to be here.
01:16:04Yes.
01:16:05In the midst of Sukkah.
01:16:06Yes.
01:16:07So I thank you for letting me, uh, interview you, uh, as, uh, as part of this celebration
01:16:14of Sukkah.
01:16:15Thank you for bringing little Kara, uh, to, uh, to Leah and being, uh, here with us in our
01:16:21home and celebrating our relationship with the Iowa together.
01:16:25Thank you all for being part of this program.
01:16:29We will speak to you later this, uh, this afternoon.
01:16:32We hope to do another, uh, fire, uh, show, uh, because, uh, Sukkah is one of those days
01:16:38that we're asked to walk in toward the fiery light of, uh, of Iowa, uh, so that we are transformed.
01:16:45Thank you again.
01:16:46May you have a bless.
01:16:47Good day.
01:16:55Good night.
01:17:05Yeah.
01:17:07Bye.
01:17:09Bye.
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