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00:00Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of On Cinema at the Cinema. We are here at the
00:16High Network ESA campus. I'm your host, Neu Heidecker, and we're here to talk movies and
00:21talk about all sorts of stuff. We'll see what happens. We might get into some other stuff.
00:25Not all sorts of stuff. Let's just do movies this time.
00:27All right, don't interrupt me. My guest is Greg Turkington from the VSA, who's now running
00:33the VFA out of the... It's kind of a little bit of a tongue twister. You're running the
00:39VFA out of the High Network ESA campus.
00:42Yes, and I wanted to mention because I've been getting a lot of cards and letters and emails
00:49and things from people who watched last week's episode who were very unhappy that we only
00:54reviewed two movies when we had promised we were going to do three.
00:58All right, well...
00:58And because we're filming in my room, my room, my rules. So today we're going to do three
01:06movie reviews and two popcorn classics.
01:08Well, we'll see if we have time because I've got something else planned, but if we get to
01:12three, we get to three. Before we get into the movies, I do want to... First of all, people
01:18are asking about dad. G, like I said... I thought you were talking about the movie
01:23dad. People are asking about the movie dad with Jack Lemmon.
01:25No, they're asking about my dad, Giamato, who's been at Grand Terrace. I shouldn't say
01:31where he is, but he's at a really nice facility, very happy, and I've been spending a lot of
01:37time there. And I don't want to give too much away, but there might be something interesting
01:42happening for our show as it relates to the facilities there. So that's an exciting development
01:49that I'm sort of a tease. Everyone's going to be chatting about that. Second, I just want
01:54to update people because people have been wondering, have I settled things with Tony? And the answer
02:02is no. And we are pursuing a pretty aggressive lawfare strategy with her because, of course,
02:09we have the ongoing lawsuit with Sizzler, which is sizzling and developing and a lot of interesting
02:15turns happening there. I've been working exclusively now with Grok to develop our law strategy, and
02:21we believe that this is going to be a significant source of revenue for Hine Network going into
02:25the future with the various revenue streams coming from some of these lawsuits. And so we'll
02:34have more information on that. In addition to the Sizzler lawsuit, we are looking at, because of
02:40the organ aging that we identified through reogenesis, that it looks now like the source of some of that
02:48rapid aging process occurred from the ground that I consumed at the ranch, which was not disclosed in
02:57the purchase from the Newman family. So you're going to sue yourself. I can't sue my, you actually
03:04can't sue yourself, but you can sue the owners. Because you were the one that was drinking that
03:08stuff. Legally, the Newman family were required to disclose the contents of the materials in the
03:14earth when they made that sale. And there were illegal contents in, I don't want to give too much
03:20away, but we're developing a very interesting strategy there. You were part of the Newman family
03:25at that time. So again, you can't really sue yourself. I thought you wanted to talk about
03:29movies. Yes. All right. Well, then let's get into the movies because we have a very exciting
03:34segment coming up that I haven't even told you about. First of all, Roofman, directed by sitting
03:42in a, you'll appreciate this, sitting in exactly 120 minutes. Yes. Directed by Derek. Two hours.
03:47Directed by Derek Chianfrance, starring Channing Tatum, Peter Dinklage, and Kristen Dunst. Synopsis
03:56is the story of a roof, this is about a roof man, robber, Jeffrey Manchester, and his time
04:01on the lamb evading capture. What'd you make of Roofman? You would think when you see Superman,
04:07Spider-Man, Ant-Man, even Rain Man, that this is part of a series of man movies, because that's
04:14usually how that works. None of them are related. And this one's even less related. Well, Superman
04:19and Spider-Man are both superheroes. They're different types of superheroes. One is a Superman,
04:24one is a Spider-Man. So they have different. Roofman doesn't have any special abilities based
04:28on a roof, for instance. Right. He's just a guy that breaks into houses or is basically
04:34a criminal. So very different type of movie, but it is interesting to have the title carry
04:39on like that. I thought it was great. Very dramatic, very tense, and very much a five
04:45bag of popcorn movie. And then your rating would be? Well, it's a five bag of popcorn
04:50movie, so the rating is five bags of popcorn. Okay. And I'm going to throw in a key, like
04:57a skeleton master key, so that he can get up to these roofs without having to break into
05:02things. You give keys to a lot of movies, by the way. I do. That's one of the keys to film
05:07criticism. No, I like Roofman. This is a good movie from the director, Derek Cien-France,
05:13which almost seems like Cinema France, if you think about his name. He's for French
05:17cinema. This episode, one of the three movies we're reviewing, besides Roofman, is a movie
05:22that is a woman. Well, I'm getting to that. So let me give my review. Spider-Man.
05:27Spider-Man. Let me give my review of Spider-Man. Okay. But stay tuned.
05:30Which is five bags of popcorn for Spider-Man starring Kristen Dunst. And we'll give that five
05:36bags of popcorn. So everybody can go out and see that. From Spider-Man, too?
05:40Kiss of the Spider-Woman, directed by Bill Condom, directed, starring Lee, Diego Luna,
05:46Tonatihu, and Jennifer Lopez, which we love. Valentin, a political prisoner, shares a cell
05:57with Molina, convicted for public indecency. An unlikely bond forms as Molina recounts a Hollywood
06:04musical plot starring Ingrid Luna. So this is the story of the Kiss of the Spider-Woman.
06:09Your thoughts? It's funny. You've had so many Spider-Man movies and reboots and remakes,
06:15but all these years, this is only the second of the Kiss of the Spider-Woman movies. So hopefully
06:21we do see a lot more of those in the future. But it's very different, again, with Roofman,
06:26where I think we were talking about how it's not a superhero. He's not Roofman, who leaps from
06:32Roof to Roof, and has some sort of superpowers. In the same way, this Spider-Woman isn't really
06:38like Spider-Man with superpowers and things. This is actually a very depressing movie that
06:44takes place in a prison cell. So kind of the opposite of Superman or Spider-Man. So kind
06:51of a left turn there, but still a great movie. I'm going to give it five bags of popcorn.
06:55And I'm going to throw in a pencil that if you have webs in the corner of your room, you can use
07:03the pencil, as we've done here, to get the webs out of the corner of your room. Keep your place
07:09clean, free of spiders. Yep. Yeah. Sorry, I have to take a quick break, because I have to go to the
07:15bathroom. Be right back, everybody. All right. I'm sorry about that. Oh, God. Stuff is eating right
07:40through me. I caught a lot of this. I was in the bathroom for a lot of it myself. But luckily,
07:45the theater I go to, they play the audio from the movie in the bathroom. Really? It's a one movie,
07:52one screen experience. You can hear the audio from the movie. So I heard most of the movie.
07:57From what I could tell, it seemed like a really well-made movie, and another classic from
08:02Bill Condon. Condon, I see that, the end there. And Jennifer Lopez, always good to see her,
08:09and I'm a big fan of her music, always was. And we're glad to see her back on the big screen
08:15for a little eye candy. So I give it five bags of popcorn, and one cup of soda, no ice.
08:26So we agree. All right, now we're going to do something a little interesting. We've got
08:30a special guest. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to do something interesting. We're
08:33going to review Ananomy, which is another cool movie. I don't have that with me here,
08:37so we're not going to review. What is it? Ananomy? Daniel Day-Lewis?
08:43I don't have that on my list, so. What's it? Anemone. Anemone. Anemone. A what?
08:50Ananomy. It sounds like it's going to be a science fiction movie or something about
08:54undersea adventures. We're not reviewing it. It's actually more of a drama.
08:57We're going to my guest. My guest today on the show. Hold on. It's interesting to have
09:03something. Kiss of the Spider Woman. You think, oh, spiders. Right. Anemone. You think sea
09:08anemones. Both of them are just dramas. We're not reviewing the movie. Kind of a Trojan horse
09:12with a title that brings you in, thinking you're going to see something. My guest is.
09:17Five bags of popcorn. My guest is, formerly of Orkin, and here to talk about movies,
09:22we've got Big Mike. Get in here, Big. Hey. How's it going? All right. How are you doing? Good to see you.
09:27And, you know, Greg. Mm-hmm. Um, so let's talk about where you're at right now,
09:34because you had a little bit of a, um, a little controversy after appearing at the Oscar special.
09:41Yeah. Well, you know, we got that, uh, part of the segment where we were toasting,
09:46Mm-hmm. Um, even though I was done off the clock and go in next day, job's done after 21 years, so.
09:56You had one glass of champagne, uh, and you had completed the work, so you were technically,
10:02Yeah. I would consider off the clock, but because you're in uniform or whatever,
10:05they say sayonara to BM because you, what, had one glass of champagne?
10:12Yeah. There's nothing I can do about it, but I just wanted to let you be a part of what we're doing here.
10:17And we are also talking about, uh, I don't want to give too much away, but there is,
10:22I have thoughts on a more organic, holistic approach to extermination that I know you're interested in.
10:28No. Because Orkin uses such deadly chemicals, and you end up breathing, you must have been polluted.
10:33Wow. Which, I want to get you on the Warp 10, because you're breathing in all those toxins,
10:39and, um, your organs must be in the hundreds of years old. Yeah.
10:43Dr. Wang, by the way, won't reveal what's in there, so that's kind of interesting.
10:46But, um, anyways, we have a great new segment that we developed, I think you're going to enjoy,
10:51called Box, what's it called? Yeah, Box Office Poison, yeah.
10:55And so this is an opportunity for Mike to share what he thinks is going to be a dud, uh, in the theaters this week.
11:01So, Big Mike presents Box Office Poison. Take it away, Mike.
11:05Um, Tron Aries.
11:07Say that again?
11:07Tron Aries.
11:10What is he saying?
11:10Tron movie, Tron Aries.
11:11Tron, Tron movies.
11:12Tron Aries.
11:13Yeah, yeah, it's a sequel, uh, it's, it, I would say that there is a, uh, desensitized, uh, reaction with it,
11:23because there's just so much out there.
11:25So you think people are going to stay away from Tron Aries?
11:29Yeah, I mean, after a while, you know, it's always the same old thing, and, uh...
11:33I think it's going to do great.
11:35Because the Tron is one of the most storied franchises in movie history.
11:38It's like saying a Star Wars movie's not going to do great.
11:41It's ridiculous.
11:41Well, I know with certain movies that have had, like, you know, one, two, three, after the second one, I stopped, even some of the great, uh...
11:52Well, we'll see what happens. We will see what the box office looks like.
11:54I'm thinking in terms of quality, though, you know.
11:57Would you say that about James Bond? Because they stretched that out, and each James Bond movie made more than the previous one.
12:02I think you have to take into consideration what the genre is and, and the development of the stories.
12:08You stick to dropping rats into corners to pretend that they're...
12:12I exterminate them. I don't drop them.
12:13Well, at Movie House, you were dropping rats.
12:16No, I wasn't.
12:16Yeah, you were. There were no rats there until you showed up.
12:19Well, because, I mean, there were dead rats, because I exterminated.
12:21Yeah, that you brought in so that you could get the work exterminating, but there was...
12:25I'm bringing dead rats.
12:26All right, well, that's interesting.
12:28Mark said you did.
12:29I guess we'll...
12:30Mark said you did.
12:32How would Mark know? He was under debris.
12:33I saved him.
12:34Earlier in the day, when you were there, he said you were dropping rats.
12:38You guys saw me walk in. Where did I have rats? In my pocket?
12:41I don't know. I don't know how you work.
12:43No, there are no rats.
12:43Maybe you have a lined jacket.
12:44I exterminated rats.
12:45Maybe there's rats in your...
12:46All right, you guys can settle this...
12:48You guys had popcorn all over the place.
12:49Off-camera. Let's move on. Thank you so much.
12:51And I'll bet you $100 at the Tron movie is a huge hit.
12:55We'll see. We'll be following that and measuring it.
12:58We'll see.
12:58You take the bet.
12:59We're not betting on the show.
13:00Thank you very much, Mike. Good to see you.
13:01Good to see you.
13:02And we'll be in touch, and you can see yourself.
13:03You're not thinking about movies.
13:05Yep.
13:05And you're wrong about Tron.
13:08All right. Well, thank you to Big Mike, and we'll just have to watch the box office numbers
13:13come in and see if Mike is right.
13:15He's wrong.
13:16I wanted to do another segment with him, which maybe I'll just do on my own here, is the rat
13:21of the week. And the rat of the week this week is...
13:25He's Big John. Big Mike, whatever his name is. He's the rat of the week.
13:29My rat of the week is John Crone, who's the head of legal affairs at Sizzler.
13:36And I don't know anything about this guy, except he has been completely incommunicative
13:41with me and Grok as we're trying to at least sit down and discuss a settlement.
13:47And we've been completely stonewalled by this guy, and that's not how you do business.
13:53And he is a bad representation of a failing company. Sizzler, we hope, will not go out
14:00of business because we want to take them for all they're worth before then. But John Crone,
14:06call me back and write me back, even if it's email.
14:09All right, everybody. That's all the time we have today. So thank you all so much, and
14:12we'll see you next week.
14:15I have a segment that I've developed, and I'm going to do it. You keep your mouth shut.
14:20Okay? I know this is your room, but when we're rolling, it becomes my room. My rules.
14:26Nothing for me. Nothing. Just go.
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