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Jennifer Tilly has always lived for the drama— on screen, at the poker table, and especially in her closet. In the Season 2 finale of “The Good Buy,” the Oscar-nominated actress, poker player, and vintage collector sits down with Harper’s BAZAAR to talk maximalist style, one-in-a-lifetime jewels, and the art of dressing like you truly mean it. From flipping through the yellow pages to find the closest Chanel store, to bidding (and winning!) against the Elizabeth Taylor at auction, she shares the stories behind her most iconic pieces, and the ones that got away. Whether she’s glamping in the jungle for ’The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills’ or jet-setting to Europe for fashion week, Jennifer leads by example-- every day can be a celebration if you dress like it.
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00:00Hi, I'm Lynette Nylander.
00:01And I'm Leah Chernikoff.
00:03And this is Harper's Bazaars, The Goodbye.
00:05Where we invite celebrities, designers, models,
00:08and tastemakers to talk shop.
00:10What they buy, where they got it, and why it matters.
00:17So, Leah, it is time for your Goodbye of the Week.
00:21OK.
00:22What say you?
00:22I'm ready.
00:23It's this.
00:25And for the people who can't see what I'm doing,
00:27pointing to this button down that I'm wearing,
00:29which is a really beautiful shade of pink.
00:32I've been really lusting after pinks,
00:37like the right shade of pink.
00:38It has to be a kind of pastel,
00:42like a really expensive, like, cheek blush
00:45is always what I'm looking for.
00:47Anyway, this brand is called With Nothing Underneath,
00:50and I had never heard of it before
00:51until you introduced me to it.
00:53Yeah.
00:53And I got to pick out a shirt,
00:55and I went oversized
00:57because one thing I've learned now over the years
01:00in fashion is, like, that's what you should do.
01:04Bigger is always better, if in doubt.
01:05Yeah.
01:06It's got this great stiffness that feels really expensive,
01:08but I thought everything was priced really well.
01:11So I'm thrilled to have found out about this new brand.
01:14So thank you.
01:15Lynette.
01:16Yes.
01:16I know this is somehow stumps you every single episode.
01:20I know.
01:21And you are, like, one of the best shoppers I know.
01:24No, I don't know.
01:25So what is it?
01:26What's your good buy?
01:27When it comes to thinking about it,
01:28it just stumps me.
01:30But I thought about it,
01:31and it's actually something that I'm wearing,
01:33but it's not obvious, guys.
01:35It's actually a brown mascara.
01:38It's a brown mascara from Gucci Westman
01:41and her brand, Westman Atelier.
01:43She has a beautiful new brown mascara,
01:45and I'm wearing it on my underlashes.
01:47Do it on the lower?
01:48Yeah.
01:48Because it's a perfect kind of definition,
01:51an eye framer that isn't black mascara,
01:54which can be a little intense.
01:56And, yeah, I just think that Westman Atelier
01:58is, like, maybe like a silent giant.
02:01She is killing it.
02:02The products are incredible.
02:04They're all clean, which I really appreciate.
02:06The packaging's really luxe.
02:07You really feel like you're getting
02:08something for your money.
02:10Her concealer is fantastic, too.
02:12It's actually the fan.
02:13It's also what I'm wearing.
02:14It's just really, it's like a,
02:16it's serum-y, and it makes your skin
02:19really glowy and fabulous.
02:20I love, love Westman Atelier.
02:28Today on The Goodbye,
02:30we are graced by an absolute living legend.
02:33She is an Oscar-nominated actress,
02:35an iconic and deeply beloved,
02:38maybe even worshipped, scream queen,
02:41an award-winning poker player,
02:42and a real housewife.
02:44And in addition to all of that,
02:47which is really an astonishing range
02:49for one person to inhabit,
02:51she is a collector.
02:53And, like, I mean, a serious collector.
02:56Her treasures include a charm bracelet
02:59that belonged to Joan Crawford,
03:00a brooch that Eddie Fisher gave to Elizabeth Taylor,
03:04and the Duchess of Windsor's Cartier Minaudière.
03:07And we can't wait to get into all of it with her.
03:09She is couture, she is camp,
03:12and she is the one, the only Jennifer Tilly.
03:15Oh my gosh, thank you for that fabulous introduction.
03:18I was listening to going,
03:20I really am a fascinating creature.
03:21Yes, you are.
03:23You really are.
03:24I've got to say,
03:25you've got to be one of our only guests
03:28who have, like, five jobs.
03:30They're all incredible.
03:31Everything you've done is pretty epic.
03:33And so separate and distinct.
03:35Yes, well, you know,
03:36I just sort of zigged and zagged my way
03:38through life and through Hollywood.
03:41And when I was acting,
03:43I was always sort of the character actress.
03:45I would say,
03:46well, I'm never the girl next door.
03:48I'm always the girl next door
03:49to the girl next door.
03:51And I was always playing kind of
03:52the wacky, weird neighbor,
03:56the strange one,
03:57but I was always the one
03:58that never got the guy.
03:59But then that helps when you get older
04:01because all the ones that got the guy,
04:03like when in the 90s,
04:04a lot of times I was up against models
04:06that didn't even act.
04:07And then they'd all get married
04:08and have babies.
04:09And then I'm still trudging along,
04:11but my career never really depended
04:13on me being drop dead beautiful.
04:16And so now I get to play
04:17all the great character parts.
04:18My goal ultimately
04:19is to be Frances McDormand.
04:21But sadly, people don't see me
04:23for those Frances McDormand roles.
04:25But when I saw her in the,
04:26what was the movie about
04:27where she lived in a trailer
04:28and she had absolutely no makeup on it?
04:30She was so beautiful.
04:31Oh yeah, the one she won the Oscar for?
04:33Yes, I love that idea.
04:35Not even trying to look good.
04:37Just be like, I'm a person.
04:39But you're a little too fab for that
04:40because I think today your outfit
04:43really exemplifies
04:44why you're on the goodbye,
04:46why you love fashion.
04:47You're not afraid to go there.
04:48Talk a little bit about what you're wearing.
04:50Well, my outfit,
04:50I've recently become
04:51pretty obsessed with Balmain.
04:53And so it's all Balmain.
04:55And you can tell it's kind of
04:56like a take on Chanel.
04:58Like, you know how Moschino,
05:00Moschino used to do Chanel.
05:02So that's what it is.
05:03And I love that it has
05:04a little lipstick.
05:05Oh, she has a lipstick.
05:07I love those.
05:07So it's just like
05:10a fun little dress, I think.
05:12But it's kind of playful.
05:14It doesn't take itself too seriously.
05:16You're a new fan
05:16of Olivia Roust-Dane's Balmain.
05:18Yeah, oh my God.
05:19And I just had made
05:21that I am obsessed with.
05:22They made a dress for me
05:24that's super sexy and shapely
05:26and it has my face on it.
05:28I saw this.
05:29I was hoping
05:30we were going to get to this.
05:31It's pretty amazing.
05:32I haven't worn it yet.
05:33I'm looking for the perfect place
05:34to wear.
05:35Like, I don't want to wear it
05:36to any old charity ball.
05:37I feel like I have to work
05:38to something sort of,
05:39you know, fabulous
05:40and iconic and strange
05:42where there's other
05:43strange fashionistas there.
05:45That was an incredible show.
05:46It was Olivia Roust-Dane
05:48made all of these sort of,
05:49I think it's out of,
05:51is it out of crystals?
05:52Yes, and he made them
05:54like really strange.
05:55It was a ready-to-wear show,
05:57but it was just like
05:58an haute couture show
05:58because I go to
05:59the haute couture shows also.
06:00And I was blown away
06:01by the show.
06:02A lot of it was,
06:03I'd say, almost unwearable.
06:05Like, a lot of times
06:06you'll see people
06:07on the red carpet,
06:08like Sarah Paulson lately.
06:09I think it was
06:10a Marc Jacobs dress
06:11with all these
06:12humps and bumps and lumps.
06:14I love that he just
06:15let his imagination soar
06:17and he's not like,
06:18what's in sell?
06:18What are the other people doing?
06:20What is going to sell?
06:22He just thought,
06:23here's what I want to do.
06:23I'll put on a show
06:24and, you know, we'll see.
06:26And there's so many
06:27wearable pieces
06:27in his collection too.
06:29On Housewives last year,
06:30I had a dress
06:31that they made
06:32which had a flamingo
06:33in the front.
06:34It didn't fit me.
06:34Like, nothing ever fits me.
06:36I have to special order
06:37ahead of time
06:37because I'm not,
06:38like, this,
06:39I'm not Los Angeles size.
06:41So I went in
06:42and I put it on.
06:42I kind of held it up
06:43to myself.
06:44And I was like,
06:45oh, and they said,
06:46it's the only one
06:47in the country.
06:48And so they have
06:49this great tailor
06:50and he got this fabric
06:52and he rolled out
06:53the fabric
06:53and he made it a lot bigger
06:55and fit me perfectly.
06:56And then I wore it
06:57on Housewives
06:57in the middle of a jungle.
06:59All the girls were like,
07:00what are you going to wear?
07:01What should we wear?
07:01And I said,
07:02well, I'm pretty sure
07:03that the dress code
07:04is probably,
07:05people are probably
07:05going to be wearing
07:06flip-flops
07:06and Hawaiian shirts.
07:07I said,
07:08but I am going to be
07:09wearing an evening gown.
07:10And they were all like,
07:11yes, yes,
07:12we want to wear
07:13an evening gown too.
07:14So we were all dressed
07:15to the nines
07:15in the middle of the jungle
07:16and sure enough,
07:17everybody else was,
07:18you know,
07:18kind of looking at us.
07:20But, you know,
07:21I think that the goal in life,
07:22one of the goals in life
07:23is to be fabulous
07:24and just have fun
07:26with clothes
07:26and make it a celebration
07:28every time you leave the house.
07:29Yes.
07:30I love that.
07:30And that is,
07:32you know,
07:32one of the things that was...
07:33That's what this show
07:34is all about.
07:35Yes.
07:35And I do think
07:37people listening
07:37will want to know
07:38to think about
07:39how you approach
07:41dressing for the show
07:42when you decided
07:42to go on,
07:43which things you look at
07:45and think like,
07:46yeah,
07:46I really nailed it
07:47or I wish I hadn't.
07:49And what do you,
07:50you already told us
07:50a little bit about
07:51what you want to wear next.
07:52You know what?
07:52I was a huge Housewives fan
07:54and that's one of the reasons
07:55I did the Housewives.
07:56I thought,
07:57I mean,
07:57how fun is it?
07:59And it's kind of not done,
08:01but sort of at my age
08:03to be on the Real Housewives
08:04of Beverly Hills,
08:05I thought I'll never
08:06forgive myself
08:07looking back on my life
08:08to say I did not do it.
08:09I approached dressing
08:10for Housewives
08:11as sort of like costume.
08:12Like I was wearing
08:13polka dot Dolce Gabbana dress
08:15with a polka dot shoes
08:17or there was one
08:18where I wore
08:18red and white straped
08:20caftan with red
08:22and white striped glasses
08:23and a red and white
08:24striped hat.
08:25I just thought like
08:26the excess
08:27is what makes it fun.
08:28And you know,
08:29I know a lot of the scenes
08:30that the Housewives
08:31don't consider important scenes.
08:32They wear jeans
08:33and, you know,
08:33sneakers and everything.
08:35But how much more fun
08:36is it if you're wearing
08:37something that's blowing
08:38in the wind,
08:39you know,
08:40with gold sunglasses
08:42and high heels,
08:43you know,
08:44pumping gas that way.
08:45It's much more
08:45of an exciting visual.
08:46So when I'm on Housewives,
08:48I try to do this
08:50same thing.
08:50I don't want to say,
08:51look,
08:52I'm just like you.
08:53I wear jeans
08:54and t-shirts
08:55and I take out
08:56the garbage.
08:56I feel like
08:57I'm trying to promote this.
09:00I have this most elegant,
09:02fabulous,
09:03strange life,
09:04which I do.
09:05And so I try
09:06to elevate that
09:07a little bit.
09:08It's very hard
09:08to shrink into
09:09the background
09:10and say like,
09:12well, you know,
09:12I'm just going to
09:13be really quiet here
09:15and hopefully nobody
09:16will yell at me
09:17because they want people
09:18to yell at people
09:19on that show.
09:20And so as long
09:21as you're getting yelled at,
09:22you might as well
09:23look glamorous
09:23while it's happening.
09:25Exactly.
09:25You claw back
09:27your bit of the branding.
09:28Like you're like,
09:29I'm part of this circus,
09:30but I'm going to be
09:31serving this.
09:32I love it.
09:33As a Housewives fan,
09:35it's good work.
09:36I really appreciate it.
09:38Thanks.
09:38Yeah, and evidently clear
09:40when you look
09:40at photos of you
09:41and you look
09:42at your Instagram
09:42and you think about
09:44your philosophy
09:44when it comes
09:45to fashion and style.
09:46You're not someone
09:47who's going to ever
09:49be satisfied
09:50with wearing
09:50a white T-shirt
09:51and a pair of jeans.
09:53In the 90s,
09:53that was the big uniform.
09:55Everybody wanted
09:56to look like a Gap ad.
09:57And I would have
09:58literally have stylists
10:00come and they'd
10:00open up their suitcase
10:01and they would have
10:0312 white T-shirts
10:04and 12 different
10:05pairs of jeans
10:06and they wanted you
10:07to wear jeans
10:08and white T-shirts
10:09and the message is,
10:11I'm a movie star,
10:12but I'm just
10:13a regular person.
10:14I take out the garbage
10:15just like you.
10:16And so you're supposed
10:17to be barefoot
10:18and just really dressed down.
10:20So humble.
10:21But I thought,
10:21I came to Hollywood
10:22to be a movie star.
10:23I don't want to
10:23open up a magazine
10:24and see people
10:25that look just like me
10:26and take out
10:27the garbage.
10:27It's just like I do.
10:29But tell us,
10:30where does this
10:30all come from?
10:32How did it develop?
10:33When I was growing up,
10:34we were very, very poor.
10:36So I just always
10:37had dreams
10:37of having beautiful clothes
10:39and I used to watch,
10:41even watching
10:41Carol Burnett
10:42and you know,
10:43she would have
10:44all the glittery gowns.
10:45I guess they had one
10:45which was a beauty pageant
10:47and everyone came out
10:48in glittery gowns.
10:49So I always associated
10:50being an actress
10:51with being a movie star.
10:53And when I went to college,
10:54you know,
10:54everybody at ActJ and students,
10:56they're so very,
10:57very, very serious
10:57and they all want
10:59to do King Lear
10:59and serious art.
11:01And our teacher said,
11:03if you want to be
11:04a serious actor,
11:05you go to New York.
11:06If you want to sell out,
11:08you go to Los Angeles.
11:09And I was like,
11:09oh my God,
11:10I can't wait to sell out.
11:13Get me to LA.
11:14Yeah, so all along with that,
11:16that was my idea
11:17of being a movie star
11:18is just being,
11:20you know,
11:20fabulous and larger than life
11:22and glittery.
11:23And so I guess
11:25I'm a little bit camp
11:26in the way
11:27that I present myself.
11:28For example,
11:29when I play poker,
11:30I play poker on television
11:32and play a game
11:32called High Stakes Poker.
11:34When I'm playing poker,
11:35like tournaments
11:35with the cameras
11:37aren't on me,
11:37I try to dress to fit in.
11:39Like I'm wearing
11:39the rabbit t-shirt
11:40and the hoodie
11:41and, you know,
11:42the scruffy hair.
11:43It's sort of like
11:44a character that I play,
11:45a very serious poker player.
11:46But when I'm on TV,
11:47I play a character
11:48named Lady Gambler.
11:50And so I have
11:51lots of cleavage,
11:53lipstick, eyelashes.
11:54I put on as many diamonds
11:55as my skinny little fingers
11:56can hold
11:57so they glitter
11:58when I'm throwing
11:59in the chips.
12:00So it's just sort of
12:01because I'm an actress,
12:03when the cameras goes on,
12:04I can't help it.
12:05I have to put on a show.
12:07I love that.
12:08And when I lose a pod,
12:09a very big pod,
12:10I'm like,
12:10ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
12:11Like there's more
12:12where that comes from.
12:13Even though inside I'm dying,
12:15it's like,
12:15oh my God,
12:16I could have bought
12:16so many Birkin bags
12:17with that one I just lost.
12:19I think you have,
12:21you know,
12:21you have a kind of 50s,
12:23you do have that 50s movie star
12:24kind of quality about you,
12:27you know,
12:27not just in your beauty,
12:29but in your presentation
12:30and your humor,
12:31even the way you talk,
12:32it's throwback in a way.
12:34Do you like identify
12:36with that era?
12:37Well, of course,
12:38I was obsessed with,
12:40um,
12:41Elizabeth Taylor
12:41and also her beautiful
12:43jewelry collection
12:44and when she wrote her book,
12:46My Love Affair with Jewels,
12:47and I thought,
12:48I love the title of this book
12:50because men come and go
12:51but jewelry lasts forever.
12:52So true.
12:53And she even said,
12:54nobody ever,
12:55I'm paraphrasing,
12:56ever really owns jewelry.
12:57You know,
12:58you're just sort of
12:59the caretaker of it
13:00to pass it on.
13:01She's kind of like a steward.
13:01The next generation, yeah.
13:02And I went to the opening
13:04of her book
13:05and they had,
13:06you know,
13:06the pre,
13:07I don't know what you call it,
13:08book party in New York
13:10and they were auctioning off
13:11some jewels
13:11that she had her favorite
13:12jewelers make
13:13and I actually bought
13:14a beautiful,
13:15bulgary,
13:16uh,
13:17ruby necklace
13:18that was being auctioned off.
13:19And before,
13:20when I was looking at it,
13:21they said,
13:22you know,
13:22that's,
13:23um,
13:23Elizabeth Taylor's
13:24favorite necklace.
13:25You're probably going to be
13:26bidding against her.
13:28And I thought,
13:28oh,
13:29okay.
13:30And then when it came up
13:31for auction,
13:32she was sitting on a podium
13:33with,
13:33um,
13:34with Elton John
13:35and he was talking to her
13:36and I thought,
13:36oh,
13:36I guess she didn't want it
13:37that much.
13:38So I got it for next to nothing
13:39because everybody was there
13:40to gawk at Elizabeth Taylor's jewelry
13:42and get their free book
13:43and have cocktails
13:44and be fabulous
13:45and there was hardly anybody there
13:47to bid on the things
13:48in the auction.
13:48Yeah.
13:49So after the auction,
13:50somebody came up to me
13:51and said,
13:51oh,
13:52Elizabeth is so upset.
13:53She wanted that necklace.
13:55She's mad.
13:56Elton John started talking to her
13:58when he came up
13:58and she didn't realize
13:59they were auctioning at all.
14:00He was distracted.
14:02They said,
14:02she's probably going to call you
14:03and she's going to try to buy it,
14:05want to buy it from you.
14:06And I was very sad,
14:07but I thought,
14:07you know what?
14:08The beautiful ruby necklace
14:09or a personal phone call
14:11from Miss Elizabeth Taylor
14:13and perhaps I can go over
14:14to her house
14:14and hand it off in person.
14:17Yes.
14:17But then I never got a phone call
14:18from her.
14:19Oh, no.
14:19So I'm actually really happy
14:21to have that necklace.
14:22So what I did get
14:23at the Elizabeth Taylor auction
14:24was I was obsessed
14:26with her Cleopatra period.
14:28Yeah.
14:28And she,
14:29we all know the story.
14:30Her husband had died
14:31and then she ran off
14:33with Debbie Reynolds.
14:35Yeah,
14:35with Eddie Fisher.
14:36Eddie Fisher,
14:36Debbie Reynolds' husband
14:37and they'd barely been married,
14:40hardly at all.
14:41Yeah,
14:41it was a huge scandal
14:42at the time.
14:42She went off
14:43to do Cleopatra
14:45with Richard Burton
14:46and when I'm reading
14:48and the thing is,
14:49when I first saw
14:50Richard Burton
14:51and he stands up,
14:53everyone starts laughing
14:54because they know
14:55what's coming.
14:55She used to entertain herself
14:57by going to Bulgari
14:59and sitting in the money room
15:00with Gianni Versace
15:01and buying massive amounts
15:02of jewelry.
15:05She was having
15:06the love affair
15:07with Richard Burton
15:08and Eddie Fisher
15:09was desperate
15:10to win her back
15:10and he bought her
15:11this beautiful brooch
15:12and she was actually mad
15:15at him
15:15because he paid full price
15:16which,
15:17you know,
15:17all us jewelry divas know
15:19the price tag
15:20is never the price tag.
15:21She just felt,
15:23she kind of emasculated him
15:24like you should know
15:25to ask for a better deal.
15:27But anyway,
15:27a couple of months later
15:28she ran off
15:29with Richard Burton
15:30and he hadn't finished
15:30paying for the brooch yet.
15:32So he sent her the bill
15:33and she paid for it.
15:35She.
15:35Wow.
15:35So this brooch that I got,
15:37I wanted something
15:38from that period
15:39and the minute they said
15:41and Richard Burton
15:42bought this for Elizabeth Taylor,
15:44the phones would go crazy.
15:46Everything was extraordinarily
15:48through the roof
15:49like six million dollars,
15:50you know,
15:51three million dollars.
15:52So all the pieces I liked
15:53I couldn't get
15:54and I found out later
15:55Bulgari bought back
15:56all the Richard Burton jewelry
15:57for their archives
15:58because it's such
15:59a romantic story
16:00but Eddie Fisher,
16:02not such a romantic story.
16:04So they didn't want that one.
16:06But an amazing story.
16:07When I received it,
16:08I believe that jewelry
16:09has energy.
16:10It soaks up memories.
16:12And I was in Las Vegas
16:13at the time
16:14in my little Las Vegas apartment.
16:15I got it,
16:16I put it on the bed,
16:17on the bed stand next to me.
16:19All night long
16:20I had these glittery,
16:21sparkly dreams
16:22of being the most beautiful
16:23woman in the world,
16:24walking along the Via Veneta,
16:26being desired by millions.
16:29And I woke up
16:30and I went,
16:30oh my God,
16:31it's a magic brooch.
16:32It has sense memory.
16:33And I tell you
16:34when I put that brooch on
16:35I do feel like Elizabeth Taylor.
16:37To this day?
16:37To this day.
16:38And I always try to wear it
16:39when I'm playing Elizabeth Taylor
16:41in Celebrity Autobiography.
16:42I love that.
16:43But it's a beautiful,
16:44beautiful brooch.
16:45We get into shopping philosophies
16:46here at The Good Buy.
16:47We really like to know
16:48how people buy things.
16:50And do you,
16:51you seem like you could go
16:52either way.
16:53You could be completely impulsive
16:54or you stalk
16:57and you hunt
16:57and then you pounce.
16:59What is your shopping philosophy?
17:00Well, I do love a good sale.
17:02But I found over the years
17:03I'm a little bit of a shopaholic.
17:05I found the things
17:06that I spend a little more money
17:08than I'm comfortable with.
17:09Like I just absolutely
17:10have to have it.
17:11And you're buying something
17:12that's beautiful quality
17:14or really classic.
17:15Those are the things
17:16that I'm really happy with
17:17in the long run.
17:18And when you have
17:19a lot of accessories
17:20or gorgeous jewelry
17:21or whatever,
17:23if you buy like,
17:24you know,
17:24I love color
17:25and I love craziness.
17:27Like, you know,
17:28I adore Alessandro Michelle.
17:31But at the same time,
17:32I love the row also.
17:34Just you buy
17:35the simple black dress,
17:36you can pick it out
17:37of the closet 10 years later
17:38and put it on.
17:39So true.
17:40And it's just so easy
17:41and chic and elegant.
17:43There's something to find.
17:44You'll find it.
17:45Yes.
17:46And if there's something
17:46to buy,
17:47you'll buy it.
17:48If there's something
17:48to buy,
17:49I'll buy it.
17:49But one of the things
17:50I love is I adore vintage.
17:52Like I love,
17:53when I buy something
17:54like a beautiful embroidered,
17:56like 1920s,
17:57like a Chinese embroidered cape
17:59or, you know,
18:01I love those shawls.
18:03Remember in the 20s
18:04and they had their shot
18:06with silver and gold.
18:07You love Fortuny as well.
18:09Like a lot of Fortuny.
18:09Fortuny, yeah.
18:10I was very influenced
18:11by Tina Chow.
18:14And she was such
18:15an eclectic collector.
18:16She's a huge style icon
18:17of mine as well.
18:18She's amazing.
18:19She wore these Delphos,
18:22Fortuny Delphos gowns
18:23from the turn of the century.
18:24And she'd wear them,
18:25not like just out
18:26to dinner and everything.
18:27In fact,
18:27I heard what she was like,
18:29at least I went
18:29to this party.
18:30I couldn't sit there.
18:31I just stood up
18:31the whole time,
18:32but it was worth it.
18:33And she made
18:33these beautiful necklaces
18:35out of crystals
18:36that were like wrapped
18:37in bamboo and metal
18:39and just the most
18:41beautiful style icon.
18:42And she also had
18:43a lot of vintage Chanel.
18:45She was so beautiful.
18:47The mix.
18:48She just wore clothes
18:49so effortlessly.
18:50She always felt like
18:51she was in command
18:53of what she was wearing.
18:54She didn't seem like
18:55she was following it.
18:56Yes.
18:56And it's why we still
18:58look at photos of her today.
18:59I love when people
19:00sort of don't say,
19:00what is everybody else wearing?
19:02I want to make sure
19:03to fit in.
19:03But they just say,
19:05what expresses me?
19:07Well, it's having taste.
19:08Yeah.
19:08And taste means that
19:09you could be in a thrift shop.
19:11You could be in the dollar store
19:12and you can find beauty
19:14and something to really wear.
19:16At The Goodbye,
19:16we love to really dive into,
19:18you know,
19:19what everyone's
19:20first purchases were,
19:21what their most memorable
19:23purchases were.
19:24So let's get into it with you.
19:25What was the first purchase
19:27that you made
19:28when you felt like
19:29you had made it?
19:31The first thing
19:31that you really had
19:32a good memory
19:33attached to it.
19:34I was,
19:35lived in Hollywood.
19:37I was reading
19:38Paris Vogue,
19:39as one does.
19:40Mm-hmm.
19:41And it said
19:41that the models
19:42were,
19:43the new style was
19:44they were wearing
19:45the t-shirt
19:46and the jeans,
19:47but they were wearing
19:48these Chanel necklaces
19:49that had these
19:50giant C's on them.
19:51Yeah.
19:51And I was like,
19:52oh my God,
19:53that's like so
19:54throwaway chic
19:55and insouciant.
19:57And I literally was like,
19:58I've got to get myself
19:59a Chanel necklace.
20:00I was like,
20:00what is this store,
20:01Chanel?
20:02And I went in
20:03the Yellow Pages
20:04and I was like,
20:05oh my God,
20:05there's a Chanel
20:06in this town
20:07called Beverly Hills.
20:10So I go in there
20:12and I'm looking around.
20:13The lady was just like
20:15the sales girl
20:15in, um...
20:17Pretty Woman.
20:17Pretty Woman.
20:18Yeah.
20:18There's no necklaces,
20:19there's nothing.
20:20Everything's...
20:20I go,
20:21um,
20:21I'd like to buy a necklace.
20:23She's looking at me like,
20:24please don't waste my time,
20:26little girl.
20:26I looked very young then.
20:27And she pulls out a drawer
20:29and the necklaces
20:30are all in drawers.
20:31And I was looking at them
20:32and I didn't see anything
20:33with giant C's.
20:35And then I saw
20:35with little C's.
20:36I said,
20:37don't you have,
20:38do you have anything
20:38with really big C's?
20:39And she sniffed.
20:40And she goes,
20:41our clientele is very elegant
20:43and discreet.
20:44They would never wear anything
20:45as vulgar as a logo.
20:46And I was like,
20:49okay.
20:50So I picked out
20:51these two necklaces
20:51that had the biggest C's.
20:53And you might remember these,
20:54that they were that big.
20:56And, of course,
20:57a year later,
20:58you go to Chanel,
20:59there's giant C's in this.
21:00But they had little C's.
21:01They were crystal necklaces.
21:03They had crystals
21:05and little pearls
21:06and little C's.
21:07And I bought two of them.
21:08And then,
21:09the first time
21:09I was on Johnny Carson,
21:11I had a vintage dress
21:12that I bought for $7.
21:13You might remember
21:14these dresses
21:14as multicolored sequins.
21:16So I wore the vintage dress
21:18with my two Chanel necklaces.
21:20And I felt like
21:21everybody was looking
21:22at the TV going,
21:23look at that girl
21:24and her Chanel necklaces.
21:26Of course they were.
21:27I felt everybody
21:28in the know
21:28knew I had actual
21:30Chanel necklaces.
21:32But it was actually,
21:33it was a very fun look.
21:35Do you still have them?
21:35Yeah.
21:36Do you still have them?
21:36Yes, of course I do.
21:37I'm such a hoarder.
21:38I have so much stuff
21:40in my closet
21:40that doesn't fit me anymore.
21:41One of them
21:42is my Gucci.
21:43There's Tom Forgucci
21:45I was obsessed with.
21:46He made these
21:47denim skirts
21:49with Lesage embroidery.
21:50So these embroidered roses
21:52on it
21:52was Lesage embroidery.
21:54So beautiful.
21:56And they said
21:56I was one of only
21:57five people
21:58in the United States
21:59that had ordered it.
22:01And I said,
22:01I can't imagine.
22:02I see that skirt everywhere.
22:03And they said,
22:03oh, those people
22:04are all borrowing.
22:05You're one of the only people
22:06that bought it.
22:07So I could not,
22:08I couldn't even fit
22:09one leg into that skirt anymore.
22:10But I can't bear it apart with it.
22:12Some things you just keep
22:13for the memory
22:15and the history.
22:16And if you're a true collector,
22:17you know the provenance
22:19of things.
22:19It's also like
22:21a good financial decision
22:22to keep some of this stuff.
22:23It's incredibly hard
22:25to find
22:25and work a lot.
22:27When I got nominated
22:28for my Academy Award,
22:30not to be like,
22:32when I got nominated
22:33for my Academy Award.
22:34No, let's do it.
22:34No, let's do it.
22:35It was the mid-90s
22:36and they did not have
22:37that fashion industry
22:39had not infiltrated Hollywood.
22:41So I did say,
22:42you know,
22:42maybe I can borrow
22:43something from somebody,
22:45but it wasn't a done thing.
22:46And that was the first year
22:47I remember Prada
22:48sent me a thing saying,
22:50oh, we'd like to make
22:50a dress for you.
22:51And I loved Prada,
22:52but all I knew
22:53they made was nylon bags.
22:54And that was the first thing
22:56when they made
22:56that beautiful lavender dress
22:57for Uma Thurman.
22:58Yes.
22:58That was the very first thing.
23:00That's like the start
23:01of the red carpet
23:02celebrity dressing
23:03that I think of.
23:04I personally think
23:05the red carpet
23:06is so much more fascinating
23:07when I look at the 70s
23:08and the girls would show up
23:09with giant gardenias
23:11in their hair
23:12and their halstim.
23:14But everybody's
23:14wearing their own things.
23:15It's so much about,
23:16you were talking before,
23:17about like,
23:19you know,
23:19that you can make
23:20something out of nothing
23:21if you have style.
23:22It's so much about confidence, too.
23:24Half of it is like,
23:25it feels like costume sometimes.
23:27And that's where fashion
23:28goes into a place
23:30that I don't super appreciate
23:32is that I don't mind
23:33something ostentatious,
23:34but it has to feel
23:35like the person
23:36is enjoying wearing it
23:37and is owning it.
23:39Yes.
23:39But to that point,
23:40in a way,
23:41is there anything
23:41you've ever regretted?
23:43You are a supremo shopper.
23:44We've learned that so far.
23:46Is there anything
23:46in your wardrobe
23:47that you think,
23:48why did I buy that?
23:49Well, I have a lot of things
23:50that I'm looking like,
23:51why did I buy that
23:51that I have not worn
23:53and will probably never wear?
23:54I buy a lot of coats
23:55and we live
23:56in Southern California.
23:57So, you know,
23:58even if your outfit
23:59is the coat,
24:01then you take it off
24:03and now your outfit
24:04is not gone.
24:05Whereas, I guess,
24:06in London, New York, Paris,
24:07you can walk around
24:08in your fabulous coat.
24:09Oh, a coat is everything.
24:10I mean, I understand
24:11why you keep buying that.
24:12But when you're traveling,
24:13you know,
24:14you only have two suitcases,
24:15three suitcases.
24:16The coats take up
24:16a lot of room.
24:17So I find when I'm traveling,
24:19I find one coat
24:20that kind of goes
24:20with everything
24:21or maybe another one
24:22that's a little crazy.
24:23But I do have
24:25way too many coats.
24:26I just recently
24:27bought this coat.
24:28I went to the Gucci
24:29show in Milan.
24:30They're ready to wear.
24:31And they were sending
24:32the models down the runway
24:33with these coats
24:35that were so fabulous.
24:36They dragged on the ground.
24:39And I said to my guy,
24:40I want that coat.
24:41And they go,
24:41well, of course,
24:42when we deliver them,
24:43they're not going
24:43to drag on the ground.
24:44And I said, no, no.
24:46The dragging on the ground
24:47is the best part.
24:48That's the point.
24:48I said, the scope
24:49because they're oversized
24:50and they're showing them
24:51with jeans and everything.
24:52And they showed up
24:53and they were all proud.
24:54Everybody stood around
24:55to look.
24:56They said, we only made
24:57a few of them
24:58that dragged on the ground
24:58and the other ones
24:59were for the store windows
25:00because they look great.
25:01But then I started thinking,
25:03where am I going
25:03to wear this?
25:04It's like, I'm going to show up
25:06and there's going to be
25:06like squished beer cans
25:08and like cigarette stubs
25:09and dead birds and stuff
25:11collecting underneath my coat.
25:13It's part of the coat now.
25:14It's part of the coat.
25:16So I love the idea of it.
25:18I think I might have to,
25:19maybe I'll go to perhaps
25:21the Bel Air Hotel
25:22because you get out of your car,
25:23there's a carpet,
25:24then you go inside,
25:25then you go back down the carpet
25:27and get in your car.
25:27You cannot walk down city streets
25:29in a coat that drags on the ground.
25:30I also got a Balenciaga coat
25:32dragged on the ground
25:32that I have never worn either.
25:34You love it in the store
25:35because it makes you look,
25:37it elongates you.
25:38So, so chic.
25:39I want to talk about
25:40how I'm hearing you shot
25:42because you go to a lot of shows.
25:45I actually, I saw you
25:46at a Dolce & Gabbana
25:47ultra-motor show
25:48like a year or two,
25:50a year ago, I think.
25:51You just described
25:52being at the Gucci show.
25:54You are there.
25:55You are really the client
25:57who's at, you know,
25:58a sexual show saying,
25:59do you like write it down
26:01and go, I want that one,
26:02I like this one.
26:03I do love to go to,
26:04I go to the shows
26:05like when I go to the Altamoda
26:06and also because I'm a friend
26:08of Dolce & Gabbana now,
26:09I can say,
26:10I can look at the runway
26:11and say,
26:12I want this and this
26:13and sometimes they don't even make it
26:14like one dress.
26:15They said, oh,
26:16I said, I want this dress
26:17had all these charms hanging off
26:18and it was ready to wear
26:19and they said,
26:19we're not putting that in production
26:21but we'll make it for you
26:22and so sometimes they'll do that
26:24but I do actually
26:25also order a lot of ready to wear
26:27and,
26:28but they'll make sure
26:29they make one in my size
26:30and send it to me
26:31because they know me personally.
26:33Yeah.
26:33So, and then you can order things
26:34from ready to wear
26:36that perhaps they're not
26:37shipping to L.A.
26:39before I became wealthy.
26:42That sounds obnoxious.
26:43This is a weird thing
26:44on Housewives.
26:45Let's just talk about it.
26:46They came up with a storyline
26:47that I'm like richer
26:48than Jeff Bezos.
26:49You know,
26:50I have no complaints.
26:51Run with that.
26:53Let's run with that.
26:54She's richer than Jeff Bezos.
26:56Yes, that's right.
26:56That's right.
26:57That's right.
26:58But before that,
26:59I used to love to go
27:01to Paris when I was traveling,
27:03when I was acting
27:03to the boutique
27:04in London
27:06or in Las Vegas
27:08or in L.A.
27:09because they were bringing
27:10different things
27:11like Tior.
27:12You see the models
27:13going down the runway
27:14in these like five inch high heels
27:16looking like fabulous goddesses.
27:18Then you go in the door store
27:19in Beverly Hills.
27:20The shoes were
27:21that back then,
27:22that was before Louboutin,
27:23two and a half inches.
27:24And I'd say,
27:24well, why are they so tall there?
27:25And they're like,
27:26oh, our clients would never wear.
27:27Yeah, but you're like,
27:28but I am client.
27:30But me, me client.
27:31But then you find
27:32a pair of really high heels
27:34in Paris,
27:36you know,
27:36that maybe they ordered
27:37for one of their
27:38most fabulous people.
27:39And you find different things
27:41like in Vegas,
27:42in the stores,
27:43they have more of the party vibe
27:44from the line.
27:45Yeah, it's all different vibes.
27:47Maybe more New York-y vibe.
27:48So that was always
27:49like a treasure hunt
27:50to, you know,
27:51go to the different stores
27:51in the different cities
27:52and find things.
27:53Yeah, and that feels rarer too
27:55to like find
27:56like stores
27:57that only have one thing
27:58in one place
27:59and it's just part of the thrill too.
28:01Yeah, and special items.
28:02I want to talk about,
28:03we're about to get
28:04into dream buys,
28:05but we have to do
28:06a pit stop
28:07at how you got into jewelry
28:09because jewelry for me
28:10is something I have really,
28:12I wouldn't even say
28:13I'm into it by any means.
28:15And I'm a mere peasant
28:17compared to you
28:18in terms of jewelry collecting.
28:20But it's something
28:21that you don't appreciate
28:22until you're a little older,
28:23I think.
28:24And jewelry has-
28:25It's intimidating.
28:26Yeah, and jewelry
28:26has the opportunity
28:27to grow in memory
28:31and things that,
28:31you know,
28:32it has meaning attached to it.
28:33So how did you get into it?
28:35Because obviously,
28:35you're a woman,
28:36let's say,
28:37classically with means.
28:38So it's easy to buy diamonds
28:40when you know
28:41you can afford them.
28:42But when were you,
28:44when did you get into it?
28:44Well,
28:45when we were little,
28:45very little children
28:46and we didn't have TV
28:47and we used to read fairy tales.
28:49And I would say to my sisters,
28:50let's play merchant's daughters
28:52because in the fairy tales,
28:53there were always
28:54rich merchant's daughters.
28:55We had these little plastic beads
28:57and sort of glass things
28:59like that we would say,
29:00these are our jewels.
29:01And so I always felt like
29:02it would be really wonderful
29:03to have actual jewels.
29:05We had the little
29:06sort of costume,
29:07my mom sold costume jewelry
29:08at one point.
29:09And so when I got older,
29:12when I first started,
29:13became a starlet,
29:14I would borrow things
29:16from Harry Winston.
29:18And it's always,
29:19you feel sort of like Cinderella
29:21at the end of the night,
29:22the bodyguard would come over
29:23and they would just take
29:25your jewelry off your wrist
29:26and take your earrings off.
29:28Then you kind of go home like,
29:29I'm an imposter.
29:31It's midnight,
29:32back to scrubbing floors.
29:33Yeah, I'm just a pretender
29:35after all.
29:36Oh my goodness.
29:36Well, one day I saw on TV,
29:38Joan Rivers saw,
29:39it was Tyra Banks.
29:40And she said,
29:41oh my God,
29:42your necklace is amazing.
29:44Whose is it?
29:45And Tyra said,
29:46it's mine.
29:48And then she just sort of
29:49sashayed away.
29:49And I thought,
29:50how fabulous to be able to say,
29:52it's mine.
29:54Because there was a time
29:55when the stylist took over
29:56where everybody walking down
29:58the red carpet
29:59had a price tag on.
30:00And you would see them go,
30:01they go,
30:02well, my dress is Escada,
30:04my jewelry is Harry Winston,
30:06my purse is Judith Lieber,
30:08my shoes are Manolo Blahnica,
30:10whatever.
30:11They felt an obligation
30:12to promote everything
30:15that they were wearing
30:16instead of,
30:17hey, I'm just a well put together
30:19movie star.
30:20Isn't that enough?
30:21And I felt like,
30:23you know,
30:23if you do pay for your own things
30:24and put your own things together,
30:26if they're curious,
30:27if you want,
30:27you know,
30:28but you're under no obligation
30:29to say what brand
30:31your underwear is
30:32or anything like that.
30:33But also,
30:34I was very influenced
30:35by all the older movie,
30:36old time movie stars.
30:38You know,
30:38they all had their own gowns
30:39that they would wear
30:40in the movies.
30:41They have their own jewelry.
30:42Like,
30:43in the women,
30:44almost all the jewelry
30:44the women are wearing
30:45is their own jewelry.
30:46And that sort of defined them.
30:48Like Marlena Dietrich
30:49was known
30:50for her giant ruby cuffs.
30:52They all had things
30:53that they were very famous
30:54for.
30:54Joan Crawford had,
30:56she loved big,
30:57giant jewelry.
30:58And so,
30:59I love that idea.
31:00They go out to,
31:00I don't know,
31:01the Trocadaro
31:02or the Brown Derby
31:03in their own jewels
31:05and their furs
31:06and their gowns.
31:08And so,
31:08it is really silly
31:09because I guess
31:10it's a very superficial thing
31:11to want to be a movie star.
31:13But I just love the idea
31:15of having my own jewels.
31:16And even when I got
31:17that approach
31:18from that Eddie Fisher
31:19gave Elizabeth Taylor,
31:21I felt like it had
31:22all the happy memories
31:23of being in,
31:25you know,
31:25in Elizabeth Taylor's life
31:26and was happy to be
31:27in my life too now.
31:29And I always have to try
31:30on jewelry before I buy
31:32because I swear to God,
31:33jewelry,
31:34especially vintage jewelry,
31:35has energy.
31:36And sometimes it has
31:37very bad energy.
31:39Case in point,
31:40the Hope Diamond.
31:41But I've tried on things
31:42where instantly
31:43I have to take it off.
31:44And that's where
31:44when you go to
31:46the Hong Kong sales,
31:46a lot of jewelry
31:47comes with certificates
31:48saying this is brand new
31:49and it's never been worn
31:51by anybody.
31:51And I said,
31:52well,
31:52why is that?
31:53It's because they have
31:54their superstitious
31:54and, you know,
31:55they don't want the ghosts
31:56of other people's
31:57perhaps tragic lives
31:59embedded in their jewelry.
32:00It's very powerful.
32:01But it seems like
32:02you like some of the ghosts.
32:03I love,
32:04well,
32:04I love the vintage jewelry.
32:05I love the master jewelers.
32:07Like,
32:07if I have some money,
32:08I'm not really inclined
32:09to buy a diamond.
32:10Like,
32:10I think just diamonds,
32:12they're beautiful,
32:12but they're boring.
32:14Like,
32:14I think a beautiful brooch
32:15or something
32:16is a work of art.
32:17Like,
32:17you look at what
32:18Char does
32:19or Belperon.
32:20Interestingly enough,
32:21a lot of the master jewelers
32:22were women,
32:23like June Toussaint
32:24and Suzanne Belperon.
32:26Yeah.
32:27I love those pieces
32:28because they're one of a kind.
32:29And I think of the pieces
32:31that I didn't get.
32:32I used to not have
32:33a lot of money
32:33and I was basically,
32:35you know,
32:35I was making movies
32:36because the roof was leaking.
32:38You can look at my fabulous
32:40oeuvre of films
32:42and some films
32:43are not quite as prestigious
32:44as, you know,
32:45one would like.
32:46But one of them was
32:48the Diana Vreeland,
32:49that coat of arms.
32:51It's a armor.
32:52It's a giant,
32:53giant piece.
32:54It's a Schlumberger.
32:55It's a coat of armor
32:56with like little swords
32:57sticking in it.
32:58And she had it made,
32:59I think around in the 40s,
33:01you know,
33:01around V-Day.
33:02It was one of her favorite pieces
33:03and she used to put it
33:04on the table
33:04as a decoration
33:05when she wasn't
33:06actually wearing it.
33:07And when I looked at it,
33:08they said to me
33:09at the auction house,
33:11you know,
33:11you might have,
33:12a lot of people
33:12just think it's too big.
33:14Like they,
33:14they don't,
33:16wouldn't want to wear it.
33:16And, you know,
33:17I love big
33:17and I was beating on that
33:19and I dropped out at,
33:22it sounds like a lot of money,
33:23but for what it was,
33:24not,
33:25I think I dropped out
33:26at about,
33:27I was,
33:28for a while it was just me
33:29and I found out
33:30at the Tiffany Archives.
33:31So nobody wanted it
33:31except for me
33:32and the Tiffany Archives.
33:33And I think I dropped out
33:34at about $120,000
33:36and then they got it.
33:37But, you know,
33:38if you're selling it,
33:39if you were trying
33:39to buy it now
33:40but now it's in the archives,
33:41it would be 10 times that.
33:42Right.
33:42So that was
33:43a very iconic piece of jewelry
33:45that I adored
33:45and I didn't get.
33:46The other one was,
33:47my ex-husband passed away
33:49and there was
33:49a bouvan brooch,
33:52it's very famous,
33:53you've probably seen it.
33:53It's a heart
33:54and it has a little scroll
33:56and it belonged
33:57to Millicent Rogers
33:58and it's a ruby heart
33:59and it has some Latin on it.
34:01I didn't study Latin in school
34:04because I went to school
34:04in Canada
34:05but I really wanted it
34:07and I think it went in
34:08for the estimate
34:09it was $400,000
34:10but I was really watching
34:11my, you know,
34:13I have money
34:13and then I don't
34:14because my eyes
34:15are bigger than my stomach
34:16and so I felt like
34:18I couldn't buy it
34:19but now nobody bid on it.
34:22So it didn't,
34:23it went for like
34:24the minimum bid
34:25because I thought
34:26it would go for a lot more
34:27and I wish I had it now
34:28as a memoriam
34:29for my ex-husband
34:30because I was so sad
34:31it was the first time
34:32I left the house
34:32since my ex-husband
34:33passed away
34:34and it was to sadly
34:35look at this jewelry
34:36and I wish I bought it
34:38if I bought it
34:39to say
34:39this is in memory
34:40of my ex-husband
34:41and there's not going
34:43to be another one
34:43and then the other one
34:44that got away was
34:45there was a huge fear
34:47when the Duchess of Windsor
34:48sold her jewelry
34:49back in the 80s
34:50and one of the things
34:52everybody was obsessed with
34:53was that flamingo.
34:55So Butler and Wilson
34:56did a copy of it
34:57every cheap little jewelry shop
34:59did a knock off of it
35:00so I think that people
35:02thought of it as cheesy
35:04oh to have a flamingo brooch
35:06is a really 80s thing
35:07so in the 90s
35:09they were selling off
35:1012 pieces
35:11of the Duchess of Windsor's jewelry
35:13and one of them
35:14was the flamingo brooch
35:16when you see it
35:17in real life
35:18if you'll see it
35:19I think Cardia has it now
35:20it's so beautiful
35:22it's all 3D
35:23the stones
35:24the
35:25just the gracefulness of it
35:27you know Cardia made it
35:28it's gorgeous
35:29I loved it
35:31and I said to
35:32Christie's
35:34Lisa Hubbard at Christie's
35:35I said what's going to go
35:37for so much isn't it
35:38she said you know Jennifer
35:39for you should be on
35:40the phone
35:41when it's happening
35:42just to see
35:43what's happening
35:43you know
35:44she must have known
35:45that you know
35:46maybe not a lot of people
35:47I'm surprised
35:48because I felt like
35:49the most iconic piece
35:50of jewelry
35:51of the 20th century
35:52so the Gene Toussaint
35:54Panthers were going
35:56for
35:564 to 5 million dollars
35:59and you know
36:00they're still
36:01they're still making them
36:02today
36:02and then that one came up
36:03I had to drop out
36:05at
36:06800,000 dollars
36:07and
36:08then the
36:10Cardia archives got it
36:11it was just me
36:11and the Cardia archives
36:12I love it
36:13this is the recurring story
36:14you against the archives
36:15me against the archives
36:16and
36:17and then Lisa said
36:18thanks Jennifer
36:19for bidding
36:20because it would have gone
36:20for a lot less
36:21it would have been
36:22very embarrassing
36:22but
36:23she wanted you
36:24to come on in
36:25to like
36:25yeah
36:26but the fact
36:26that that piece
36:27of jewelry
36:27was within my reach
36:29you know
36:29perhaps now
36:30I could afford it
36:31but at that time
36:32you know
36:32I'm like
36:33you put up
36:34one more bid
36:35it's like
36:36the shopaholic
36:36gamble-holic
36:37in me
36:38like what am I doing
36:39like I can't afford it
36:40where can I get this
36:41but
36:42yeah
36:43those are the three pieces
36:44that I think
36:45I get very sad
36:46when I think
36:46that I didn't get them
36:47but you know
36:48I have a lot
36:48of beautiful pieces
36:49and things are always coming
36:50up for auction
36:51I think
36:52that
36:53well first off
36:54I'm just like
36:55I know
36:55like you're on the floor
36:56this is just
36:57it's incredible
36:59to even hear
37:00and be with someone
37:01who's able to
37:02to do that
37:03and not only that
37:04I'm really impressed
37:05because you really know
37:06and the reason why
37:07you're up against
37:07the archives
37:08is because you really
37:09know what you're buying
37:10they're very iconic
37:11pieces
37:11yeah
37:12you're not someone
37:13who's just
37:13in it for a sparkly jewel
37:15it's testament
37:17to the fact
37:17that you're bidding
37:18against what the houses
37:19actually want back
37:20in their archive
37:21what they know
37:21is really really
37:22would you say
37:23those three
37:23are your dream buys
37:24because we also
37:25have a question
37:25about dream buys
37:26is that what you
37:27if you could
37:28in some way
37:29conjure those things
37:30back up
37:30those three things
37:31and then also
37:32what I would love
37:33to have
37:34is the
37:35it's the Taj Mahal diamond
37:37they sold it
37:39at the Elizabeth Taylor auction
37:40love it
37:41but then
37:41there was some sort of
37:43and a diamond
37:43bad faith
37:44there's a big controversy
37:45the person refused
37:46to take
37:47I know where it is
37:48I can't
37:50I'm sad to say
37:51because I'm not
37:52just Bezos
37:53I cannot afford
37:54the Taj Mahal diamond
37:55but when I put that
37:57on the energy
37:58radiating out of that
37:59stone
37:59and you could wear
38:00it every day
38:00because it looks
38:01like a big hunk
38:02of glass
38:02it doesn't look
38:03like a giant
38:04ass diamond
38:04it looks like
38:05a giant
38:05a big hunk
38:06of glass
38:07with some writing
38:07on it
38:08so that would be
38:09one of my dream buys
38:10to conclude
38:11and I could really
38:12do we have to
38:13oh gosh
38:14yes I am
38:15very long winded
38:15no you're not
38:16long winded
38:17you're passionate
38:17Jennifer Tilly
38:18what is something
38:19that you bought recently
38:20what is your latest
38:21goodbye
38:22well I just
38:23recently bought
38:24from Gauthier
38:25they have
38:26this hat
38:27that's like
38:28a sail
38:29it's a ship
38:30with sails
38:31but it's like
38:32a ghost ship
38:33because it's all
38:34shredded
38:35and silk
38:36and it's sort of
38:37slant
38:38I loved when
38:38everybody wore hats
38:40and you know
38:40that's why
38:41the Kentucky Derby
38:42is so fun
38:43and to see people
38:44with fantastic
38:45strange things
38:45on their head
38:46it's just another
38:47area of yourself
38:48that you can decorate
38:49that so often
38:50goes deflected
38:50and you can express
38:51and yeah
38:52Lynette is
38:53I'm in my hat era
38:56they're not as
38:56probably as fantastical
38:58as yours
38:59it's not a shredded
39:00pirate boat
39:00no but I agree
39:02I feel like it's
39:03very anticipatory
39:04to wake up in the morning
39:05and put on something
39:06that's fun
39:07that makes you feel good
39:07dressed for whatever
39:08adventure might come
39:09your way
39:10yes
39:10and Jennifer
39:11that is an amazing
39:13place to end
39:15because
39:15and thank you
39:16so much
39:17for being on the
39:18goodbye
39:18because
39:19for me
39:20it's really inspiring
39:21to hear
39:22someone who came
39:23from humble beginnings
39:23and you do not
39:24waste
39:25any second
39:26that you're close
39:27to these clothes
39:29and you
39:29understand the blessings
39:31of it
39:31you don't put it down
39:32as something frivolous
39:33you understand
39:34the importance
39:35of the legacy
39:36of the designers
39:36who've made them
39:38for you
39:38and how they
39:39can be part
39:39of your legacy
39:40as well
39:40so thank you
39:41so much
39:41thank you so much
39:42you ladies
39:43are so fun
39:44and I love
39:44how into fashion
39:45you all are
39:46and I didn't know
39:47what to expect
39:47but I really enjoyed it
39:49thank you
39:49thank you
39:50it's been such a treat
39:51goodbye
39:51goodbye
39:52goodbye
39:53bye
39:53bye
39:54bye
39:55bye
39:56bye
39:57bye
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