Cherie DeVille_ The Adult Industry Breaks Down Sexual Identity Labels interview / podcast

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00:00Let's talk about sexuality and labels.

00:03You've talked about evolving from gay to bi to pansexual and then just beyond labels.

00:09Yeah.

00:09Do you think that performers in the adult industry are generally ahead of society in

00:15breaking down sexual identity boxes?

00:18Well, you know what we are?

00:19We're open.

00:21Like, we're already stigmatized.

00:22We're already here.

00:24So what we're not going to do that a lot of society does is, like, be gay and hide it.

00:29You know what I mean?

00:30Or be whatever we are and hide it.

00:32We're in such a beautiful, welcoming community that I think we're in such a safe space to

00:37truly be who we are that we embrace it.

00:40And so in that way, we are ahead of society.

00:43I think there are ridiculous numbers of closeted people, whether they're closeted by their religion

00:49or feel shame or worry about their communities and what their communities will think.

00:54And so, you know, maybe a bisexual, pansexual, queer woman would say, well, you know what?

01:00I like guys.

01:01This is safe in my religion.

01:02This is safe in my household.

01:03This is safe in my community.

01:05I'm just going to be in a straight presenting relationship and I'm not going to worry about

01:08it too much.

01:09You know, I think there's a huge number of those humans.

01:12That is, like, something that I always say, you know, when people ask me, what's your favorite

01:17thing about the adult industry?

01:18And I always say the people, and I know you heard it in that sizzle trailer.

01:22Um, I just, because we are such, I think, a stigmatized industry and because the people

01:31in it are, present themselves in such a vulnerable light, right?

01:34Like, I mean, you're showing everything.

01:36It does strip away that pretense and it's like, there's nothing left to hide.

01:40Like, when you're doing porn, like, you're just like, you're who you are.

01:45And I do feel like there is a real acceptance in the industry, especially now.

01:51Like, it used to be a lot more judgmental.

01:5215 years ago, not as much.

01:53Like, the women were allowed to be as free as we wanted.

01:55But, you know, even when I did my first trans scene, um, my agent, which was not unpopular

02:03at the time, warned me, you know, with all respect, that it might ruin my career.

02:09So there was a lot of that messaging going around.

02:11And I was like, well, then I really definitely want to do it because I have a name.

02:15It's not going to ruin my career.

02:16And I want to show people, you know, that even, you know, in the non, what would maybe

02:21fetish or like in the super duper mainstream community, you can absolutely do whatever

02:26you want and have a illustrious career.

02:28Yeah.

02:29I mean, we used to see that a lot.

02:31Um, like one very specific example was Christian triple X, who does a lot of trans stuff.

02:37And when we used to shoot him back in the day when I was working for my mom, we loved

02:41working with Christian.

02:41He was solid.

02:42He was always a really good performer.

02:44And I can't tell you how many girls would cancel because they would like learn that he

02:50did trans scenes.

02:51Crossover performance.

02:52Thank God is dying.

02:54Like, and, and they would, it happened so frequently.

02:57Yeah.

02:58Which is absurd because like, even, uh, in this like little group that I'm in that I had,

03:04you know, there's newer performers and older performers and these things pop up, you know,

03:08testing concerns, even crossover concerns pop up and people have a lot of incorrect ideas.

03:16But even if all their ideas were correct, you don't know what I'm doing in my private life.

03:20Yeah.

03:21And if you're fucking me, you're fucking them because I fuck everyone.

03:25So like, it doesn't, a test is a test is a test is a test.

03:29And if you want another layer of protection, you could get on prep or one of its generics.

03:33You know, there are a lot of choices to keep yourself safe.

03:36But if you're in the sex industry, even if you only did girl, girl, which some people

03:40are like, oh, that's the safest.

03:43Well, I'm a girl and you're fucking me.

03:45And I fuck all of the performers.

03:48And even though I'm super chill in my private life, a lot of people are absolutely not chill.

03:52So you don't know, even if someone is a, you know, this man, you've only seen him on film

03:59with women, he could be totally gay.

04:01He could be doing anything.

04:02And like, that's why it's irrelevant and ridiculous to have the stereotypes.

04:07They're hate based and they're fear based and they're not test based and they're not

04:11science based and they're not reality based.

04:13And it's really time for that shit to die.

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