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00:0010% off and let them know we sent you.

00:01But then next up today,

00:03Ghislaine Maxwell just got some bad news

00:05from the Supreme Court

00:06because they just officially returned to the bench today

00:07to kick off what is gonna be a very, very consequential term.

00:11And one of the first things that they did

00:12was reject Maxwell's attempt to appeal her criminal conviction

00:15for sex trafficking girls for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:16Because back in April, you had Maxwell filing a petition

00:19asking the Supreme Court to overturn her conviction.

00:21And you had Maxwell arguing

00:22that she should have never been prosecuted

00:23because of the infamous plea deal

00:24that Epstein had reached with Florida prosecutors

00:26back in 2008 to resolve allegations

00:28that he had molested dozens of girls.

00:29And specifically under that deal,

00:30you had Epstein agreeing to plead guilty

00:32to state criminal charges of soliciting prostitution.

00:34And in exchange, prosecutors agreed

00:36to not bring more criminal charges against him

00:38related to the sex trafficking investigation.

00:39But also very notably there,

00:41the prosecutors also agreed

00:42to not charge any of Epstein's co-conspirators.

00:45And so after Maxwell was convicted

00:46for her sex crimes in New York,

00:47she attempted to appeal the decision,

00:49arguing that Epstein's plea deal

00:50protected her from prosecution.

00:51But what you saw was an appeals court rejecting that claim,

00:54ruling that the authorities in New York

00:55were not bound to an agreement

00:56made by prosecutors in Florida.

00:58And so now by declining to hear her case,

01:00the Supreme Court basically put the final nail in the coffin.

01:02Though you also had her lawyer issuing a statement saying

01:04that this fight isn't over and adding,

01:06serious legal and factual issues remain,

01:08and we will continue to pursue every avenue available

01:11to ensure that justice is done.

01:12But with that said, it's also not clear

01:14what exactly they can do right now.

01:15You have experts saying that with the Supreme Court decision,

01:18it seems likely that Maxwell's only hope

01:19for an early release would actually be Trump granting her clemency.

01:22Which on that note, I'll say for his part back in July,

01:25he said, you know, he hadn't considered pardoning Maxwell,

01:27which you can believe him or not at that point,

01:29but he also added, I'm allowed to do it.

01:32But also say, you know, for whatever it's worth,

01:33his administration did urge the Supreme Court

01:35not to take up Maxwell's appeal.

01:37Though I will say, since we're on the topic

01:39of Epstein-related news,

01:40we need to then talk about House Speaker Mike Johnson.

01:42And that because Democrats are accusing him

01:44of refusing to swear in a new representative

01:46and denying hundreds of thousands of people a voice in Congress,

01:48because he wants to continue to block the Epstein files

01:50from being released.

01:51Because as we've talked about many times before,

01:53Representatives Thomas, Massey, and Ro Khanna,

01:55they proposed a bill to release the Epstein files,

01:57but Johnson has refused to even bring it to the floor

01:59for a vote.

02:00And so instead, Massey and Khanna,

02:01they've been circling what's known as a discharge petition,

02:03which would allow them to bypass leadership

02:05and force a floor vote,

02:06as long as they can collect signatures

02:07from a majority of House members.

02:08And for a while now, they've been just one vote away

02:10because several prominent Republicans even joined their charge.

02:13And then it seemed like they got their final vote

02:15that they needed, because Adelita Grijalva,

02:17she won a special election in Arizona and she's a Democrat.

02:19And Grijalva vowed to sign the discharge petition

02:21once she got sworn in.

02:22But apparently that's easier said than done,

02:24because even though she was elected two weeks ago,

02:26Speaker Johnson has repeatedly refused to swear her in.

02:28Where the House was at a session all last week

02:30in an effort to pressure the Senate

02:31to pass the GOP's stopgap spending bill

02:33to keep the government open,

02:34which is an attempt that obviously failed.

02:36But also before the government shut down,

02:38Johnson held what's called a pro forma session,

02:40which basically is a brief meeting

02:42for members of the House to discuss procedural matters

02:44without conducting legislative business.

02:45And so Grijalva, she went to Washington early last week

02:48in hopes of being sworn in during that session.

02:49Hopes, I should say, that are not unreasonable,

02:52because earlier this year,

02:53Johnson swore in two Republican representatives

02:55during another pro forma session,

02:57just one day after they won special elections.

02:59But apparently Johnson's only willing to do that

03:01for members of his own party,

03:02or people I guess who don't wanna release the Epstein files,

03:05because he refused to do the same for Grijalva.

03:07With Johnson arguing that for some reason,

03:08he doesn't want her to take office

03:10until the House resumes its normal legislative business,

03:12with him telling CBS on Thursday,

03:14the House is not on the floor doing business this week,

03:16but we will do it immediately early next week,

03:18as soon as everyone returns to town.

03:19But we have to have everybody here,

03:21and we'll swear her in.

03:22But then the next day,

03:22you had Johnson going back on that promise as well,

03:24but announcing that he won't actually

03:25be holding a session this week,

03:27instead designating a district work period,

03:29which allows Congress members to return

03:30to their home states from October 7th to the 13th.

03:33But then also the day after that,

03:34Johnson signaled that he would be laying Grijalva

03:36swearing in even more,

03:38retelling reporters that the House won't come back

03:39into session until the shutdown ends

03:41and the government reopens.

03:42And of course, right now,

03:43we have no idea when that's actually gonna happen.

03:45And so as a result, you have many,

03:46including many Democrats,

03:47condemning Johnson,

03:48arguing that he could call a pro forma session

03:50whenever he wants to make her election official.

03:52Noting that a shutdown doesn't actually

03:54prevent members from being sworn in.

03:55In fact, the entire House was sworn in

03:57when a new Congress started during the month-long shutdown

03:59that bled into January of 2019,

04:01which is then why you have tons of people accusing Johnson

04:03of intentionally refusing to swear Grijalva in

04:05so he can continue blocking the House

04:07from even voting on releasing the Epstein files.

04:09And that's also something that Grijalva herself

04:11says she believes is the only explanation here.

04:13At first, I was trying not to be a conspiracy theorist.

04:15Yeah, I also have been the same.

04:17Like, maybe there's something I'm missing here.

04:20Right, it doesn't have anything to do with these files,

04:23but that is literally the only thing I can point to.

04:26It's not like me getting sworn in is gonna change,

04:29you know, now the Democrats will be in the majority.

04:31I mean, there are certain things

04:32that are not going to change,

04:34where Democrats will still be in the minority.

04:36That is literally the only thing that is different.

04:38But for now, we'll have to wait to see how this plays out,

04:41because while it's very important to look

04:43at the insane lanes that Johnson is going to

04:45to just make sure this plays out a certain way,

04:47whether it is days or weeks from now,

04:49Grijalva will eventually be sworn in.

04:51When she does, that discharge petition

04:52will have enough signatures,

04:54and the House will be voting on releasing the Epstein files.

04:56It is just.

04:57It is just.

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