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The Election Commission of India is set to announce the schedule for the 18th Bihar Assembly elections today at 4 PM. All 243 seats, including 38 reserved for SCs and 2 for STs, will go to polls before the current Assembly’s term ends on November 22, 2025. The ruling JD(U)-BJP alliance is expected to face stiff competition from the opposition Mahagathbandhan, led by the RJD and Congress.
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00:00news coming in this morning Bihar poll dates to be out at 4 p.m. today the election commission
00:20briefing on Bihar election is slated at 4 parties have sought one to two face polls
00:26the big question is will the election commission then relent nithish of course we are learning is
00:32to unveil the patna metro ahead of the poll dates before the announcement is made of course has been
00:37the model code of conduct also kicks in and the government is going to be unable to in fact
00:42announce these schemes or these projects later on the big headline here the poll dates to be
00:48announced today the much awaited Bihar election poll dates is going to be out today is what we are
00:56learning hectic campaign has been underway for days together now which will only intensify further
01:02elections likely in fewer phases as best requested by several political parties the Bihar elections
01:11will be the first after the election commission special intensive revision of electoral rolls that
01:18has trimmed 68 odd lakh voters and added 21.5 lakh new names on this big story India today's consultant
01:27editor Rajdeep Sardasai joining us this morning our managing editor Maria Shakil also with us coming
01:33back to you Maria in a moment from now a word from Rajdeep Sardasai on how he looks at this all
01:39important war Rajdeep coming in the backdrop of as it as it does really with this intense fight
01:45that we have seen over the special intensive revision of electoral rolls in the state of Bihar
01:51thanks very much Sneha yes Bihar is the big election of 2025 but when you look at Bihar's polls
02:01particularly 2010 15 and 20 if you go back to the last three assembly polls what we've seen is very
02:08interesting in 2010 Nitish Kumar and the BJP had a landslide victory they they swept the polls more than
02:15200 of the 234 seats went to them then you come to 2015 where Lalu Prasad Yadav tied up with Nitish Kumar
02:23and they swept the polls getting more than 180 seats and then you come to 2020 where you had a razor thin
02:31victory for the NDA Nitish Kumar for the first time seemingly vulnerable and therefore the polls became very close the gap between the two alliances was just 12,000 votes and Tejasvi Yadav could well have become chief minister in 2020.
02:50Now in 2025 what's changed is the NDA seems to have a much wider alliance the NDA seems to have the benefit of having put all this cash in the hands of people the Mukhe Mantri Mahila Yojana for example in particular you put 10 lakhs in the hands of at least 75 lakh women it could extend to as much as 1 crore and it will be interesting to see whether payments can be made even after today once the model code of conduct comes into play.
03:20So it's not so much vote chori but as some are calling it vote kharidi. Now whichever way you look at it the NDA has the wider alliance but also faces 20 years effectively of rule by Nitish Kumar where clearly anti-incumbency has crept in.
03:38Nitish Kumar really remains to my mind the key factor for Bihar. If Nitish holds strong particularly to his EBC vote bank then it is clearly advantage NDA.
03:50If on the other hand Nitish Kumar's anti-incumbency is diluted then clearly the NDA is vulnerable.
03:57And there is one X factor not sir but Prashant Kishor. To my mind Prashant Kishor is the real X factor in this election. As I said every election in BR has thrown up some surprise.
04:11Could Prashant Kishor be the surprise? If Prashant Kishor is able to get double digits in terms of vote percentage whose votes will he take?
04:19I think that will become very very critical. That will be decisive in my view in deciding what kind of government we have in Bihar.
04:28If Prashant Kishor is not able to make an impact then the wider NDA alliance clearly has a big advantage.
04:34One final point. In 2020 the Kamzor Khadi or the weak link was the Congress. They contested 70 seats won just 19.
04:43That was well below the strike rate of the rest of the Mahagadbandan. Parties like the CPIML and the RJD did better than expected.
04:52The Congress was the weak link. Now in this election too it remains to be seen whether Rahul Gandhi's vote Adhikar Yatra gives the Congress some momentum
05:01or the Congress is so organizationally weak that it can't capitalize on it.
05:05I would say net-net as we start this race advantage NDA. But whether that advantage will sustain over the next four or five weeks will depend on the kind of campaign
05:16and indeed the Nithish Kumar factor. Here is a Chief Minister who is clearly in poor health, has faced 20 years of anti-incumbency,
05:24remains indispensable to the NDA at the moment. But can the JDU punch above its weight or at least do much better than it did last time round?
05:34If it cannot, then the Mahagadbandan certainly has a chance. Remember all the polls have shown that Tejasvi Yadav is the preferred Chief Ministerial choice.
05:44But he is the preferred Chief Ministerial choice of about 35% of the vote. That's effectively the vote base of the Mahagadbandan.
05:51Where will the Mahagadbandan get the new voters from? That's the challenge for the Mahagadbandan to go beyond their Yadav Muslim vote bank.
06:01Can they get new voters, the younger voters?
06:02Rajipal, just come back to you. That conversation will continue right here in India today requesting Maria also to be with us.
06:08Pawan Verma from the Jain Suraj party is now joining us. Thank you for your time.
06:13These big expectations in the run-up to elections. We are expecting the dates to be out today.
06:18What sort of an election is this going to be? Pawan Verma?
06:23I hope it's going to be a fair election. It's about time the dates were announced.
06:28And I'm particularly waiting eagerly for the model code of conduct to be announced.
06:34Because the manner in which just a few days before the elections,
06:40straight raveries as bribes are being issued.
06:44Not that they have an impact on voters who don't believe them.
06:47But it is unethical, it is unconstitutional and the Supreme Court should take notice of it.
06:55Having said that, I think...
06:56Pawan Verma, will...
06:58Yes.
06:59Right. You know, I also wanted to ask you,
07:02and I'm also going to in fact let Rajdeep come in,
07:05but my question to you has got to do with the kind of role that your party and the Prashant Kishore factor
07:11that's going to be in these elections.
07:12Pawan Verma.
07:13Yes. Yes, of course.
07:15I think Jain Suraj is going to do very well.
07:19We expect to get a complete majority.
07:21You see, the problem with most analysis is that they see it from the prism of 2020 and 2015,
07:32when there were basically only the established parties of the RJD, JDU Congress, and BJP.
07:39People are not appreciating fully how important and powerful this new and third alternative
07:47in the form of Prashant Kishore and Jain Suraj is.
07:51Therefore, they never fully take it into the estimation.
07:55I know on the ground, contrary to what most analysts would say now,
08:01the kind of support for change in Bihar after 30 years of Nitesh Dhalu,
08:09and Bihar has remained exactly where it was 30 years ago,
08:13the poorest and the most backward state.
08:15Now, the love, the change, the mood for change,
08:19is cutting across the old tropes of dharma and jati,
08:24Hindu, Muslim, religion, and caste.
08:29And it has by now become a leher, which will become a wave,
08:34and a wave will become an andhi in the next four weeks.
08:38You will see it happening before your eyes.
08:40Pavan Verma, be with us.
08:44Rajdeep and Maria, my colleagues, are also with us,
08:46and they'd like to take in a few questions.
08:48Rajdeep.
08:49Well, you know, my simple question to Pavan Verma is,
08:52I know he's being very optimistic about the Jan Suraj party,
08:55but is the real aim of the Jan Suraj party in this election to establish itself,
09:02not to win.
09:03This is not an election you're fighting as much to win,
09:06but to become a player in Bihar politics.
09:09And if you become a player, potentially a kingmaker,
09:13who would you align with?
09:14The NDA or the Mahagadband?
09:16Who are you ideologically and politically closer to?
09:21Whose votes are you looking to cash in?
09:23Who's your enemy number one?
09:25Is it Nitish Kumar and Parivartan?
09:27Or are you looking to replace the so-called Yadav Raj?
09:31Now, your question is in many parts,
09:34so I'll answer the first one.
09:37First of all,
09:38I don't believe that we are going to be kingmakers.
09:44Otherwise, this campaign would not have been choreographed
09:48and structured in the manner in which it was.
09:52Two years of a very rigorous Padhyatra,
09:55people's contact and the formation of a party.
09:59We are therefore looking,
10:00we are the only party, Rajdeep,
10:02fighting 243 seats in their entirety.
10:07We have an organizational structure
10:09extending down to the block,
10:12to the booth,
10:13and our paid-up membership is 1 crore, 30 lakhs,
10:17and growing while the BJP is 70 lakhs.
10:21So I think that we stand a very good chance on our own.
10:25Secondly,
10:26we have announced already that there will be,
10:29we are not going to go in for a pre-poll
10:31or a post-poll alliance,
10:33so therefore that possibility is hypothetical.
10:36Thirdly,
10:37it's not as if we are aligned more to one or the other.
10:41All the established parties of Bihar
10:44are complicit in the ruination of Bihar
10:48over the last 30 years.
10:50And people are fed up of them.
10:53Maria?
10:53My question is that when Prashant Kishore started his entire padiyatra three years ago
11:01and became, you know,
11:03tried to get a toehold in Bihar,
11:06the sense certainly was that he was targeting
11:09Tijasvi Yaadav.
11:10He kept on asking,
11:11in the last two or three weeks,
11:16his focus has shifted towards the legit corruption of the NDA,
11:20which is largely the JDU and the BJP.
11:22So the question then,
11:23it was that who is Prashant Kishore's primary target?
11:27Is it Tijasvi Yaadav or Nitish Kumar?
11:29Because he has been in power.
11:31Nitish Kumar's government has been in power for 20 years.
11:34So who is he fighting his election against?
11:38Okay, good question, Maria.
11:39Let me answer it, see you at home.
11:41Firstly, his target
11:42was primarily the people of Bihar.
11:46He was trying to convey to them
11:49an unfamiliar message
11:51that vote for yourself,
11:53not become puppets
11:55being manipulated by the old political party.
11:58Secondly,
11:59of course,
12:00Jangal Raj,
12:01Lalu Yaadav,
12:02Tijasvi,
12:03Parivar Wad,
12:03Ninth Pass,
12:05failure in governance
12:06were targets of his appeal for change.
12:11And as far as Nitish Kumar and the NDA are concerned,
12:15you'll be surprised by the results.
12:18In Bihar,
12:19the current dispensation of the NDA government
12:22is seen as perhaps the most corrupt
12:24in the living history of democratic politics in Bihar.
12:28And in fact,
12:29the talk of Bihar is
12:31the kind of corruption
12:33which has placed the top ministers
12:35of the NDA government,
12:36we may be from the BJT or the JDU,
12:39inside the docket.
12:40They don't have answers.
12:42They are running from the media.
12:43It is the talk of Bihar.
12:46Okay, there are talks also,
12:49of a possible alliance between Jansuraj and MIM.
12:53Are there talks going on between Prashant Kishor and Asaduddin Ovese?
12:58Because Asaduddin Ovese did play an important role in 2020.
13:02He may have won,
13:03his party may have won five,
13:05all of them merging after victory with the RJD,
13:08but he damaged close to 25 seats for the RJD.
13:11Yeah.
13:12Maria,
13:13the whole problem with Asaduddin Ovese
13:15is that the only speculation that matters as far as he's concerned is,
13:19who's going to shake his hand?
13:21With respect to Ovese,
13:22we are not going to form an alliance.
13:24We've said we are not going to form any people alliance.
13:27And let me tell you,
13:29today,
13:30the Muslim vote
13:31is not the bonded labor of the RJD
13:35as a vote bank anymore.
13:38It has seen what has been done for them
13:39if only in 30 years of Mifish Nalu rule,
13:427% of Muslims have passed the 12th grade.
13:47Why should Muslims go back to the RJD?
13:50The youth of the,
13:51the Yadav youth,
13:53the Yadav,
13:53the Muslim youth,
13:54they are wanting change
13:56because they,
13:57these people have used them as vote banks.
13:59So, we don't need to align with the Ovese at all.
14:03Okay.
14:04Pavan Narba,
14:05let's,
14:05let's leave it there.
14:07We'll wait and see what role Prashant Kishore plays.
14:09But I want to ask you, Maria,
14:11we are putting a lot of X factors on the screen.
14:14You and Maria to be with us
14:15because we also have Ajay Alok who's with us.
14:18Piyush is in fight with Ajay Alok at this point in time.
14:21Let's take a listen to what Ajay Alok has had to say
14:23about this big battle this time around.
14:25Piyush.
14:26Well, absolutely,
14:31Sneha,
14:31in a few hours from now,
14:32we will also see the announcement of dates of election in the state of Bihar.
14:37We were just hearing what Pavan Verma was saying.
14:40And right now,
14:41I'm joined with the senior spokesperson of Barche Jantar Party,
14:45who also hails from the state of Bihar.
14:47How prepared are you?
14:48At 4 p.m.,
14:48we will see announcement of elections in the state of Bihar.
14:51Well, this is our land.
14:54Our people.
14:56And we are always prepared.
14:56People are also prepared.
14:58It's going by the first line.
15:00We are singing the tune of RSS.
15:09We are RSS.
15:10The whole country is RSS.
15:11We are on the line of RSS.
15:13And we've always been in the line of RSS.
15:15And see,
15:15now JNU is also coming in the tunes of RSS.
15:18So RSS is one tune everybody should play with.
15:21Razdeep should also play.
15:22My question is,
15:25how confident are you?
15:26How many seats you are expecting that NDA will have in its city?
15:29This is for sure 100% I'm telling you.
15:32The kind of tectonic shift Bihar has seen in the last 20 years in terms of Bihar.
15:37The whole people of Bihar are going to vote and block.
15:40Whatever the nitty gritties were there in 2020 elections,
15:43everything has been solved off.
15:45So 2025 will be 225 for NDA.
15:48Pashant Kishore is also affected.
15:50Do you feel so?
15:50I mean, everybody is welcome to participate in the democracy.
15:54This is the biggest festival.
15:56And we have always seen before elections,
15:59many mushroom crops up.
16:00I hope he is not one of those mushrooms.
16:02Can we expect...
16:03Last time it was plurals.
16:04This time it says Prashant Kishore.
16:05So I expect him to stay for...
16:07Can we expect any post-polar alliance with Prashant Kishore?
16:10Because he is being considered as an...
16:11Why? What's the need?
16:14Right now we are going to elections.
16:15Where is the alliance concerned?
16:16We already have an alliance.
16:18There are five people.
16:18We are fighting like a punch.
16:20And it will be a punch to the opposition.
16:22J.D.U., B.J.P., Upendra Kushwa,
16:24Amanji, Chirag Paswa.
16:26And it's like five fingers
16:27conjoining together to form a punch.
16:30And the punch will be very hard.
16:31Who is bigger brother this time?
16:32There is no bigger brother or...
16:34Or elder brother or a junior brother
16:36or whatever brother.
16:37It's a family.
16:38So family is united
16:39and it is going to fight
16:40under the leadership of Nitesh Kumar.
16:42Of course, yes.
16:43He will be the chief minister.
16:44Yeah.
16:45He is the chief minister.
16:47Okay.
16:48One question.
16:48For the last many, many years
16:49we have seen India ruling the state of Bihar.
16:51Why once again
16:52India is confident
16:53of forming government in this state?
16:55You know, earlier,
16:56before 2005,
16:58whenever the election used to come,
16:592000 or 99,
17:00whatever the elections were there,
17:02there was a very famous line,
17:04Banduk ki guliyon se chad chad ke aata hai chunao.
17:06Pistol ki tatara hat se par par ke aata hai chunao.
17:09Ye hai Bihar ka chunao.
17:11Now the saying,
17:12after 2005,
17:12it has changed.
17:14Vikas ki guliyon mein mur mur ke aata hai chunao.
17:17Vikas ki bulandiyon pe chad chad ke aata hai chunao.
17:19This is the change of narrative
17:20which Bihar has seen
17:21and that's why Bihar will vote for India.
17:23What is expected this time?
17:25It's very much clear.
17:262025,
17:27NDA 225.
17:28NDA 225?
17:29That's the message coming in from
17:30Ajay Alok.
17:32Suniya,
17:32he's a man who is,
17:34who has been traveling
17:35in the state of Bihar
17:36and we have also seen him
17:37taking parts in various campaigns
17:38and that's why he's saying that
17:40NDA is very much confident
17:42and they are again going to form the government
17:43in the state of Bihar.
17:45But it's a big question,
17:46mark on that,
17:46isn't it,
17:47you know,
17:48as far as
17:49the Nitesh Kumar factor
17:50this time around
17:51is concerned.
17:53Piyush,
17:54be with us.
17:54In fact,
17:55I'm just going to also bring in Rajdeep
17:56and Rajdeep,
17:57if you'd want to ask a few questions,
17:59let's see if that's possible
18:00with Piyush connected
18:01with Ajay Alok right there.
18:03I just want Piyush to ask
18:04Ajay Alok
18:05one small question.
18:07All these schemes,
18:08if everything was going on
18:09so swimmingly
18:10in Bihar
18:11for the JDU,
18:12BJP alliance,
18:14what was the need
18:14for all these welfare schemes
18:16you have announced
18:17in the last 10 days
18:18that effectively put cash
18:19in the hands of women,
18:20cash in the hands of youth,
18:21it suggests almost
18:23that you are doing
18:24vote Kharidi
18:24as the opposition
18:26is alleging.
18:26How does he respond to that?
18:28If all is so well in Bihar,
18:29what was the need
18:30in the last 10 days
18:31to announce all these schemes?
18:32Rajdeep, if you don't forget,
18:40let me remind you
18:41that way back in February,
18:43the government has done
18:44a budgetary provision
18:45for all these schemes.
18:47And don't forget,
18:48we are a welfare state.
18:49We are not a commercial state.
18:51And whatever the state
18:51earnings is there
18:52and whatever the state
18:53can do for the welfare
18:55of its people,
18:56state will continue doing so.
18:57So it's nothing new
18:59that we have announced
19:00all these things
19:00because this was already
19:01planned.
19:02If you want to check
19:06the debt to GDP ratio
19:12of Bihar,
19:13it's much better
19:13than many of the states.
19:15It's only 37.2%.
19:17Go and check it with Punjab,
19:18go and check it with Tamil Nadu,
19:19go and check it with Andhra,
19:20go and check it with West Bengal.
19:22Bihar is way ahead.
19:23Anyway,
19:24the elections have been announced,
19:25the schemes have been announced.
19:26By 4 o'clock,
19:27maybe some more schemes
19:29Nitish Kumar might announce
19:30by opening the metro.
19:31Don't get hard one.
19:33We are going to win the election.
19:35All the best.
19:36Okay.
19:37Okay.
19:41Can I?
19:41All right.
19:42That's the confidence
19:42being expressed by the BJP.
19:44Rajdeep,
19:44if you want to come in.
19:46Yes.
19:46Can I ask Maria a question?
19:47I just want to ask,
19:48you know,
19:49Maria,
19:49we have put various X factors
19:51which could decide
19:52the Bihar election.
19:54What,
19:54according to you,
19:55are the three top factors
19:56that will decide 2025?
19:58Where will this election
19:59be won or lost?
20:01It will be decided
20:02by the EBCs of Bihar,
20:04Rajdeep.
20:04And the EBCs so far
20:05has been very close
20:07to Nitish Kumar.
20:08And as we have been discussing,
20:10you know,
20:10since 2010 or so.
20:12Just explain EBCs
20:13to our viewers,
20:14their percentage
20:15and who they comprise of.
20:17Okay.
20:17So the EBCs
20:18are the extreme backward classes.
20:21Nitish Kumar
20:21actually tried
20:22to break it down further
20:24in order to ensure
20:25that they become
20:26his captive audience
20:27in the last 20 years
20:29of his government,
20:30which includes
20:31the Khoeris,
20:31the Kurmis,
20:32which one of these
20:33caste,
20:34Nitish himself,
20:35comes from.
20:36In all,
20:36we are looking at
20:37roughly around
20:3825% vote,
20:40Rajdeep.
20:41And if there is
20:42a shift of almost
20:43like 5% to 6% vote,
20:44which they just
20:45managed in 2020,
20:48when,
20:49you know,
20:49we saw almost
20:50like the youth
20:51of Bihar emerging,
20:52like the caste-neutral
20:53constituency,
20:53that may not happen
20:55this time around
20:56because in this
20:57election,
20:58Rajdeep,
20:59only,
21:00you know,
21:00on Saturday,
21:0162,000 crore,
21:04you know,
21:05schemes unveiled,
21:06which we are calling
21:07vote kharidi,
21:08which is essentially
21:08direct benefit transfer,
21:10going directly
21:11in the hands
21:11of the pensioners,
21:13the youth,
21:14and, you know,
21:14which are largely
21:15unemployed youth.
21:16So none of these parties
21:17are talking about
21:18employment generation
21:19opportunities.
21:20They are essentially
21:21saying and speaking
21:22about doles.
21:23So that is the
21:24bigger concern.
21:24So I would say
21:25that EBCs are
21:26the first big factor.
21:28Second would be,
21:30of course,
21:30the women of Bihar,
21:31which have tilted
21:32the balance of power
21:33in favor of
21:34Nitesh Kumar,
21:35you know,
21:35convincingly since
21:362010,
21:372015 it happened,
21:39and also in 2020
21:41as the election
21:42moved and shifted
21:43from west to
21:43going towards
21:44the south of Bihar,
21:46and we saw how
21:47election from the
21:47second to the
21:48third phase,
21:49where women
21:49outnumbered men
21:51overall,
21:52and it led to,
21:53you know,
21:54not really convincing,
21:56but 12,000 plus
21:57votes for NDA,
21:58and they won.
21:59And of course,
21:59you know,
22:00we are talking about
22:00Prashant Kishore here.
22:01If he wins,
22:04manages to
22:05poll in
22:06above 10%,
22:07you know,
22:08in double digit,
22:09then will he be a
22:10vote cut one?
22:11If he is a vote
22:12cut one,
22:12then he is a
22:13vote cutter for
22:14which party?
22:15Because,
22:16you know,
22:16there is a shift
22:17whether he will be
22:18a voting preference
22:19to a vote cutter.
22:20That is something
22:20we will be waiting
22:21and watching out for.
22:22But I will also say,
22:24Rajdeep,
22:24that does Tejasvi,
22:26at this point,
22:26also have that
22:28MY?
22:28If it is Mahila,
22:29Yadav on one hand,
22:31there is Mahila,
22:32there is Muslim Yadav
22:33on one hand for the
22:34RJD,
22:35Mahagadir Bandha,
22:36there is Mahila,
22:36and youth for
22:38Nitish Kumar is the
22:39sense.
22:39But DBT,
22:40the second big factor,
22:41first is,
22:42of course,
22:42the EBCs,
22:43and also I would say
22:44the X factor would be
22:45Prashant Kishore,
22:46if he actually manages
22:47to go up in double digit,
22:50then the game would change.
22:51It's a state which has
22:52always been very,
22:53very status quo-ish,
22:54has given convincing
22:55mandate to whosoever
22:56they choose.
22:58But whenever there is
22:59a shift which happens,
23:00Rajdeep,
23:00we saw it happen from,
23:02you know,
23:0215 years of government
23:03of Lalu Yadav
23:04to Nitish,
23:05there was that period
23:06of uncertainty
23:07for close to six months
23:08when first election
23:09happened in the month
23:10of October,
23:12and then again,
23:13a re-election
23:14which happened
23:14because the state
23:15was in precedence rule.
23:17But so overall,
23:18I would say,
23:19three,
23:19you know,
23:20X factor,
23:22EBCs,
23:23and women remain
23:24very,
23:24very crucial as always.
23:26Let me add,
23:27let me add one more
23:28X factor to the three
23:29that you've spoken of,
23:30and that's the other
23:31big difference between
23:322020 and 2025,
23:33Chirak Paswan.
23:35Recall that Chirak Paswan
23:36in 2020 fought
23:38on his own,
23:41and in many of the seats
23:42put up strong candidates
23:43against the JDU.
23:44Many believed
23:45this was part
23:46of a BJP game plan
23:47to bring
23:49countries down to size.
23:51That did affect
23:52in some areas
23:53the Dalit vote,
23:54which otherwise
23:55could have gone,
23:56particularly the Paswan
23:57community vote,
23:58which could have
23:59otherwise gone to the NDA,
24:00went to Chirak Paswan.
24:02This time,
24:02Chirak Paswan
24:03is part of the NDA,
24:05and that will give them
24:05the advantage.
24:06The fact that both Chirak
24:07and Jitin Ram Maji
24:09are part of this alliance
24:10does give them
24:11the advantage.
24:11The Dalits remain
24:12the group which
24:14the Mahagadbandan
24:15will certainly try,
24:16along with the EBCs,
24:17to target.
24:18If they cannot
24:19shift that vote,
24:20then once again
24:21it will be clearly
24:22advantage NDA.
24:24So I think the fact
24:25that Chirak Paswan
24:26is back in the NDA fold
24:27and not fighting
24:28on his own
24:29is another X factor
24:30that could benefit
24:32the NDA
24:33in this election.
24:33And I would add
24:35SIR as well, Rajdeep,
24:37because in the last
24:39one year,
24:40since the last election,
24:41that is the Lok Sabha election,
24:43the overall electorate
24:45of Bihar
24:45has shrunk by 6%.
24:47So,
24:48which essentially means,
24:49I mean,
24:49there is a shift
24:50from the initial SIR list
24:52of 65 lakh
24:53to 47 now.
24:54I've been speaking
24:55to various political parties
24:57and they certainly
24:58give a sense
24:58that the addition
25:00of 18 lakhs,
25:01which has happened
25:01in the last one month,
25:03because of,
25:04you know,
25:05the Aadhaar being added
25:06as the 12th ID proof,
25:09this does,
25:10you know,
25:10lower that impact
25:12of SIR to some extent,
25:14but the real assessment
25:15would be felt
25:16only after the
25:17booth level officers
25:19of various political parties
25:20go to the ground
25:22and they realize it
25:22because let's not forget
25:23that the BJP
25:26and the NDA
25:26does better booth management
25:28than all political parties
25:29put together.
25:31Right,
25:31right,
25:32right.
25:32So,
25:32Sneia,
25:33I think,
25:33Sneia,
25:34net-net,
25:34what we are suggesting
25:36at the moment,
25:37and this is only
25:38the start of the race,
25:39is that the NDA
25:40does go into this election
25:42with some kind
25:43of an advantage
25:44because of the size
25:45of their alliance
25:46and because
25:47of the various
25:48direct benefit transfer
25:49schemes that have
25:50been unveiled.
25:51But Bihar is known
25:52to surprise.
25:53I remember 1995,
25:55the first election
25:56in Bihar
25:57that I covered
25:57and the general
25:59mood then was
26:00that Lalu Prasad
26:01was on the back foot.
26:03The fact was
26:03that there was
26:04a momentum
26:06building against him.
26:09The election commission
26:10was again seen
26:11as a factor
26:11that TN session
26:13was ensuring
26:14that Bihar
26:14would have a truly
26:15free and fair
26:16poll.
26:16the Musclemen
26:17wouldn't get a chance
26:18to influence elections.
26:20Guess what happened?
26:21Lalu Prasad swept
26:22to an almost
26:23historic two-thirds
26:24victory.
26:25So Bihar is known
26:26to surprise.
26:27Yes, as Maria says,
26:29there is an element
26:29of status quoism
26:31in the sense that
26:31caste vote banks
26:33do remain
26:33pretty consolidated.
26:35But let's never
26:36underestimate
26:36the Bihar voter,
26:38which is why
26:39you would think
26:41that the next
26:41one month
26:42who campaigns
26:44more aggressively
26:45and is able
26:46to target
26:47the last mile
26:48voter
26:48could make
26:50all the difference.
26:50And here again,
26:51the BJP
26:52and BJP's
26:53superior booth
26:54management
26:55will be their
26:56big advantage.
26:57But the JDU,
26:58I think,
26:58holds the key
26:59to the election.
27:00They melted
27:00last time
27:01almost half
27:03their seats.
27:04This time,
27:04can they hold
27:05on to their
27:06more,
27:07to their vote
27:08bank,
27:09will make a
27:09huge difference
27:10because you've
27:11got two parties,
27:12RJD and BJP,
27:13both above
27:1320% in
27:15elections.
27:16But the JDU
27:16with that
27:1712-13%
27:18makes a huge
27:19difference in
27:20the final analysis.
27:22All right.
27:22Be with us,
27:23Rajdeep.
27:24Maria,
27:24I'm just going
27:24to come back
27:25to you both
27:25in a moment
27:26from now.
27:27We're listening
27:27to what the
27:28election commission
27:29chief Gyanesh
27:30Kumar had to
27:31say.
27:31This has got
27:32to do with
27:32his entire
27:33controversy over
27:34SIR in
27:35the state of
27:36Bihar.
27:37Listen in
27:37to what he
27:38said.
27:38SIR
27:43Bihar
27:597,42,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
28:29ERO होता है और उन्होंने मिलकर BLOs के साथ मिलकर 243 EROs 90,217 BLOs
28:39ने मिलकर काफी वर्षों के बाद लगबग 22 वर्षों के बाद मतदाता सुची के
28:46शुद्धीकरण का कारे किया वोटर का आइडेंटिफिकेशन चाहे को ही भी हो उसका किस तरीके
28:53से करना है उन्ही आदेशों के तहट वोटर इडिफिकेशन किया जाएगा
28:59आधार काड आधार एक्ट के तहट भी न तो जहां आप रहते हैं उसका प्रमान होता है और न नागरिक्ता का प्रमान होता है
29:12ये section 9 आधार एक्ट का इस विशे में स्पष्ठ है
29:18All right, the big story for our viewers have just joined us at four in the evening. We will be having the big announcement of the election dates by the Election Commission of India.
29:28Now listen in to what the Prime Minister has said also vis-a-vis Jungle Raj in the state of Bihar. This of course during the course of the election campaign. Listen in to what he said.
29:36आपने मिलकर बिहार में जंगल राज का सभाया किया है
29:48यहां के हमारे नवजवानों ने तो बीच साल पहले के बिहार की बदहाली स्रिप किस्सों और कथाओं में ही सुनी है
30:06उन्हें बहुत अंदाजा नहीं है कि जंगल राजवालों ने बिहार की क्या हालत बना दी थी
30:19जिस बिहार ने सदियों तक भारत की प्रगति को नेत्रत दिया
30:28उसको पंजे और लालतेन के सिकंजे ने पलायन का प्रतीक बना दिया था
30:40Maria in fact continues to be with us. Maria, talk to us about the women factor in these elections, you know, forming half the electorate, where schemes in fact directed to them, safety, you know, reservation, women-centric outreach that political parties have been making.
30:59How important is this factor going to be in deciding eventually who rules Bihar?
31:04Look, in the last one month, close to 75 lakh women of Bihar have benefited directly from the 10,000 rupees DBT, which is a one-time transfer. In addition to that, the Jivika Didis of Bihar, which are seen as captive vote bank again, these are women who move from one house to another, talk about the schemes of Nitesh Kumar.
31:31They are very aware, you know, in terms of spreading literacy, they are very conscious, they talk about the cycle scheme of Nitesh Kumar. They have also had a top-up of close to 2,000 to 3,000 rupees.
31:44And if you look at it, these payouts, which has happened, will be the game-changer or deciding factor. Look, Sneha, one of the dominant image and the principal pole of Nitesh Kumar's governance model in Bihar has been women or young girls on bicycles, which was essentially a rollout which happened in 2008-2009,
32:07when Nitesh Kumar government gave up the cycles to young girls who would pass out of class 9th, so that, you know, that distance should not become some kind of a trouble for them,
32:19and they would be able to travel those long distances to their respective schools for carrying out their education.
32:25Today, those girls are running households. They are married girls. They are running the households.
32:31That's why when we say in terms of Bihar, women not only will be deciding their own votes, they'll be deciding also the vote of the household as well.
32:42That's why they are becoming increasingly the most important factor in Bihar politics.
32:48Remember, when Nitesh came to power for the first time in 2005, one of the schemes that he also unveiled and had a project was giving 50% reservation for women in panchayas.
33:02Of course, there can be a big debate around it. What did it really do? Did it really empower the women of Bihar?
33:08Or did it actually make them, you know, ensure that there are, you know, women become rubber stamp heads and their husbands run the panchayas?
33:19That's a different step, discussion altogether.
33:22But it did become the first state to implement 50% reservation for women in the local bodies.
33:29That's why election after election…
33:33I'm just going to come back to you in a moment from now to talk about that and much more.
33:36In fact, we have a reaction coming in. Let's take a listen.
33:39I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
33:46I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
33:53I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:00I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:07I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:14I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:21I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:28I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:35I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:42I'm just going back to you in. Let's take a listen.
34:49Let's take a listen.
34:56I'm just going back to you in the next five years.
35:00I want to say that this is why important is that many days after Bihar has come, that
35:07the government of this year, the government of this year, the government of this year
35:13where the government of this year will come. It is a very big opportunity for the government
35:18of this year. And the government of Bihar has come. You can see it in the budget
35:24me jis tarah ka bihar ko support mila hai aur jis tariqe se pradhan mantri ji ka bihar
35:29aana huwa narindra modi ji ka aur jitna support unhone bihar ko kiya hai aur aagliye
35:345 sasal mein mujhe lagta hai bihar top 10 state mein hooga muddha kya hooga bada
35:38vidhan sabachunao mein chukhi aeg tarap pere ki kaha jare vipaksh ki tarap se ki
35:42nitish kumar ab kame karne ki stity mein nahi hai anti incombensi ho sakti hai
35:46ndusri tarap aap loog development ki baat karte hai jameen par muddha kya dixte
35:50hai sange jameen me toh sabse bora muddha kama ka hi hai na ye narrative joh hai jad
35:55dharm abhi samaj raha hai jah ya toh kast war hoota tha tha communal war hoota tha
36:02sachai yehi hai sara surkhi wahi raha ta ta sabse bora muddha yaha par hai
36:07woh hai development ka vikaz ka ki laund order kitana bhi chale media me kahi ne kahi
36:14ghatna krm lakin laund order bihar me issu nahi hain abhreishan dunia mein kahi
36:19hoota hai us par karwai hoti woh muddha nahi hai naksil jam bihar me zero ho gaya
36:24toh joh bhi kam kaj hai toh bihar ek development ke ek level pere nitis kumar ji
36:30liya hai platform ready hai bihar ka ek bare chalang ke liye uske liye
36:36chunau hai ek antrim sawal ah joh chunau ki ghusna hogi ah waj ho jayegi toh ab sawal
36:41ek antijar yeh bhi hai ki ndia mein seat sharing ko lhe karke kal bhi hamne dekha
36:45batko ka dour laga tarp tamam nitai kar raha te mtlap bachit kahan tek pohunchi
36:50hai log janna jari hai aur bhoat hii sahar dhpun tariqe se bachit ho rahi hai koi bhoat
36:57confusion bhi nahi hai aur jaldi hi aapko jaldi mtlap 24-5 dhin me aapko pura tatsvier
37:02tatsvier sámeni me aal jayegi
37:04hamse bachit ke liye sukriya sanjay jha ji hamse bachit kar raha te
37:07aur bihar chunau ko lekar ke jo chunau ki press conference hai
37:11uske baad dab sabki nega hai is baad par tiki hai ki
37:14ayo kitne charno miche nao ge ghosna karta hai
37:16maddan ki tariqe kya hoti hai
37:18savi kamar persa nari malam ke saas
37:20shashibhushan with that report
37:23Preeti Chaudhuri also spoke to Jansara chief
37:26Prashant Kishore on the UnPolitics
37:27podcast on what lies ahead as far as
37:30bihar is concerned
37:31listen in
37:32why are you
37:36why is there so much NDA is gone
37:37what about India
37:38India is gone because
37:40India or India ki baat nahi hai
37:43loog badla ho chahate hai
37:44toh jo incumbent hai ho toh jai gahi
37:46mujhe India se India se
37:49India se matlab nahi hai
37:50loog ko badla ho chahi hai bihar mein
37:51aur aap meri baat par mat jahi hai
37:54aapke stringer, local
37:56jitne expert bisle sak hai
37:57unse puchhe ki
37:58jyadah tar loog badla ho chahate hai ki nahi
38:01data batarha hai
38:02vishak me toh aap vishwaas hi
38:04nahi nahi
38:04saat
38:04hum aapke vishlasen
38:07haap toh aapne vishlasen
38:08me rakhye
38:09aap jahkar puch lije
38:10saat percent se jahadah loog
38:12bihar mein badla ho chahate hai
38:13ho chahe kishi jati ke ho, kishi dharm ke ho, kishi party ke ho, kishi chhetr ke ho
38:18yeh jaruri nahi hai
38:19ki har aadmi joh badla ho chahate hai
38:20ho jansuraj ka favor ko support kar raha ho
38:22lekin badla ho sab chahate hai
38:24ab joh log badla ho chahate hai
38:26iska pahela chiz toh conclude ho gaya
38:28logically
38:28agar 60% loog badla ho chahate hai
38:31toh joh incomement hai usko toh harna hi harna hai
38:33ab uske pahas dho bhi kalp hai
38:35ya toh woh
38:36laloo ji ke jangal raj ko
38:38wapas lhe kar ae
38:39us bevastha ko, us party ko, un loog ko wapas lhe kar ae
38:43ya yeh sos kar ki
38:45saayad is baar ho sudhar jahe
38:46ya phir woh risk leek
38:48meh dispensation pa jiska nama hai jansuraj
38:50isme bhi risk he
38:51is aadmi ko try and tested naihi hai
38:53acchha bhi ho sakta hai, khara bhi ho sakta hai
38:55toh mahi toh loog ko sidha kahata ho
38:56bhai tumhye tay karna hai tay karlo
38:58ek dawa joh tum khai ho
39:00tumhara rog thik nahi ho
39:02woh dawa khana chahate ho
39:03ki ek nahi dawa jo thik ho bhi sakti hai
39:05nahi bhi thik ho sakti hai
39:06woh try karna chahte ho
39:07toh rajad woh dawa hai
39:08expire dawa hai
39:09jisko tumhne
39:10kha liya, dekha liya, samaj liya
39:12jantte ho ki isse nuqsaan hi hai
39:13fayda nahi
39:14jansuraj woh nahi dawa hai
39:16jisse tumhara fayda ho bhi sakti hai
39:18nahi bhi ho sakti hai
39:19try karna hai
39:20tumh try karke dekh lo
39:20toh bevudasmane
39:22the big question here
39:23will prashant kishore's
39:25you know party
39:26really become the big
39:27ex-factor
39:28in these elections
39:29that's the question
39:30that really is
39:32you know begging an answer
39:33isn't it
39:34and we'll of course find out
39:35in the next one
39:36or two months or so
39:38look prashant kishore
39:42has been very sincere
39:43on the ground
39:43there's no denying that
39:44he started his own padiyatra
39:46three years ago
39:48and thereafter
39:48you know his party
39:49came into force
39:50after he has come
39:51he completed the statewide
39:52padiyatra
39:53and padiyatra
39:54in general
39:55has been that
39:56method of
39:57people's connect
39:58which has been very very
39:59effective across various states
40:01so pk perhaps
40:03because he has been
40:04an election strategist
40:05realizes how crucial
40:06that has been
40:06he has given that
40:08great degree of
40:09freshness to the
40:10bihar narrative
40:12he is not speaking
40:13about any caste
40:14because he cannot
40:15really afford to be
40:16a caste captive
40:17because he understands
40:18he is himself
40:19from an upper caste
40:20he is a prashant kishore
40:22pande
40:22so he is a brahmin
40:23himself
40:23so he is speaking
40:24about you know
40:26the youth
40:27he is speaking
40:27about education
40:28he is speaking
40:29about unemployment
40:30speaking about migration
40:32these are primary concerns
40:33so the bigger concern
40:36that Bihar faces
40:37right now
40:38is that which model
40:39will they choose
40:40if they choose
40:41a model
40:41which is at present
40:43then Bihar needs
40:44much more
40:45than that constant
40:46pitch of
40:47double engine
40:49Sarkar
40:49you know
40:49it may be alright
40:51to keep talking
40:52about it repeatedly
40:53but has it really
40:54implemented on the ground
40:55because today
40:56Bihar
40:57yes
40:58a swanky
40:59new airport
41:00has come
41:00in Patna
41:01there are airports
41:02which has been
41:03inaugurated
41:04in Darbanga
41:04and in one more
41:05city
41:06Purnia
41:06but the concern
41:08for Bihar
41:09is absence
41:10of employment
41:11opportunities
41:12a Bihari
41:13even today
41:14after completing
41:15his or her
41:16education
41:17after class 12
41:18or after
41:18graduation
41:19has to move
41:20out of Bihar
41:21for getting
41:22a dignified job
41:23or for getting
41:24a respectable job
41:25that is the concern
41:26of a Bihari
41:27today
41:28because they
41:29are comparing
41:30the state
41:31with the neighbours
41:32they are comparing
41:33it with Uttar Pradesh
41:34where development
41:35has moved
41:36at a much
41:36faster pace
41:37than Bihar
41:38they are looking
41:39at other neighbouring
41:40states
41:41and that is
41:41what is the
41:42bigger concern
41:43for a Bihari
41:44you know
41:45Sneha
41:45this period
41:46which has been
41:47chosen
41:47because elections
41:48happen every
41:49five years
41:50because it's
41:51an assembly
41:51election
41:52and this period
41:53in which
41:54the elections
41:54happen
41:56most Bihari
41:58migrants
41:58are back home
41:59because this is
42:00the period
42:01of Chhat
42:01an important
42:02festival in Bihar
42:03this is also
42:04the period
42:04of Diwali
42:06so in this period
42:07when the elections
42:08happen
42:08the Bihari
42:09who has lived
42:10or is working
42:11outside Bihar
42:12is in his
42:14home state
42:14is among
42:15his people
42:16and has
42:17existential
42:17questions
42:18has existential
42:19dilemmas
42:20he is asking
42:21about Roti
42:21Kapda Makaan
42:22he is talking
42:23about basics
42:24of his life
42:25which is missing
42:26because he is
42:28in a different
42:28city
42:29building those
42:30massive metros
42:31across the
42:32country
42:32but when it
42:32is about
42:33himself
42:33about his
42:34own state
42:35he faces
42:36that question
42:36and that
42:37question is
42:38so palpable
42:38the reason
42:39why Nitish
42:40Kumar
42:40continues to
42:41be so
42:41dominant
42:42in the
42:42minds
42:43of a Bihari
42:44is because
42:45he gave
42:45that sense
42:46of subnational
42:47identity
42:47and that
42:48has been
42:49the driving
42:50force
42:51of Nitish
42:51Kumar's
42:52brand
42:52because
42:53he became
42:53the CEO
42:54chief minister
42:56of Bihar
42:57someone
42:57who was
42:58talking about
42:59all things
42:59right
43:00until unless
43:00of course
43:01he dithered
43:02and then
43:02the narrative
43:03went completely
43:04wrong
43:04but for
43:05Tejasfi Yadav
43:06who is
43:07his political
43:07better noir
43:09or should I
43:09say the
43:09challenger
43:10in this
43:10election
43:11he is facing
43:12a lot of
43:12questions
43:13particularly
43:13with regards
43:14to what
43:14is his
43:15narrative
43:16can he
43:17continue
43:17to say
43:18that
43:18Nitish
43:18Kumar
43:18as he
43:20did
43:20in 2020
43:21and which
43:22mobilized
43:22the youth
43:23what is
43:23new
43:24that
43:24Tejasfi Yadav
43:25is offering
43:25this election
43:26something
43:26that I
43:27did ask
43:27him
43:27when I
43:28was
43:28covering
43:28his
43:28yatra
43:29just
43:30two weeks
43:31ago
43:31listen
43:31into
43:31what
43:32he
43:32told
43:32us
43:32manzil
43:39a
43:39manzil
43:41a
43:41manzil
43:42manzil
43:44joh
43:44bihar
43:45banane
43:45ka
43:46hai
43:46or
43:47jub
43:48tuk
43:48bihar
43:48ko
43:48hem
43:48loge
43:49n
43:49bina
43:49l
43:49te
43:49padhai
43:50dvai
43:51kamai
43:51sichai
43:52karwai
43:53or
43:54sunvai
43:54wali
43:54sirkar
43:55jub
43:55tuk
43:55jantta
43:55ko
43:55n
43:55m
43:56le
43:56ga
43:56tuk
43:57bihar
43:57a
43:57g
43:57n
43:58b
43:58sa
43:58k
43:58tuk
43:59bihar
44:00a
44:00g
44:00n
44:00b
44:00dhe
44:00g
44:01hagi
44:01n
44:01bd
44:01sikta
44:01a
44:03ap
44:03dhe
44:03k
44:03dh
44:03sal
44:04se
44:04joh
44:04purani
44:05joh
44:05sarkar
44:05hai
44:06ndi
44:06ki
44:06joh
44:06chal
44:06rree
44:07hai
44:07niti
44:09iok
44:09ki
44:09report
44:09me
44:09sab
44:10se
44:10grib
44:10raja
44:10bihar
44:11hai
44:11sab
44:11se
44:11zyada
44:12beros
44:12gari
44:12bihar
44:12bihar
44:13bhai
44:13palayan
44:14sab
44:14se
44:14zyada
44:15hai
44:15prati
44:16vakti
44:16a
44:17sab
44:17se
44:17kam
44:17bhai
44:18har
44:18me
44:18niwes
44:18sab
44:18se
44:19kam
44:19kis
44:19aloka
44:20joh
44:21hai
44:21wos
44:22sab
44:22se
44:22kam
44:22puri
44:22bhai
44:23bhai
44:23na
44:23industry
44:24na
44:24kar
44:24khani
44:24hai
44:25na
44:25udhyog
44:25na
44:26dhande
44:26hai
44:26sugar
44:27meal
44:28jute
44:28meal
44:28bandh
44:29food
44:30processing
44:30units
44:31nai
44:31hai
44:31agro
44:32based
44:32industry
44:33nai
44:33hai
44:34bhai
44:34bhai
44:34tourism
44:35jis
44:36prakart
44:36se
44:36hona
44:36chahi
44:37hai
44:37gyan
44:38na
44:38moksh
44:38ki
44:38dharti
44:38hai
44:39bhai
44:39us
44:40to
44:40tourism
44:41nai
44:41hai
44:41kheel
44:41kut
44:42ki
44:42khoi
44:42wivostah
44:43nai
44:43hai
44:43khalari
44:44khe
44:44liye
44:44hai
44:44to
44:45ham
44:45luk
44:45chah
44:46te
44:46ik
44:46bhai
44:47bhai
44:47har
44:47banane
44:47kha
44:48abhi
44:49bhai
44:49har
44:49se
44:49hai
44:49hem
44:50bhai
44:50bhai
44:50se
44:50hai
44:50ham
44:51luk
44:52bhai
44:52chah
44:52te
44:52hai
44:52ki
44:53bhai
44:53joh
44:53hai
44:53aval
44:54rajoo
44:54me
44:54hai
44:55lakit
44:56bhai
44:57har
44:57kho
44:57banane
44:57ke
44:58liye
44:58will
44:58power
44:59chah
44:59chah
45:00joh
45:01kye
45:01sarkar
45:02ki
45:02pas
45:02nai
45:02hai
45:02ma
45:04ki
45:04mothi
45:05niti
45:05kumar
45:05kakai
45:06kakai
45:06bal
45:06joh
45:06khatab
45:07ho
45:07chukai
45:07hai
45:07ya
45:08prash
45:09tachar
45:10chah
45:11blok
45:12chel
45:12jahe
45:12chani
45:13chahi
45:13chahi
45:14chahi
45:15chahi
45:15chah
45:15aparad
45:17bharata
45:18jah
45:18raha
45:18an
45:20mena
45:20mahn
45:20nai
45:20ki
45:21jab
45:21tuk
45:21ap
45:22muck
45:23tbh
45:23nahi
45:24bhai
45:24jab
45:25tuk
45:25achi
45:25power
45:26ki
45:26viva
45:29foreign
45:43foreign
45:59foreign
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