00:00 Hi, this is a big butcher here from outlook magazine
00:02 So today we are here at a Jen as you know that for the last few days
00:07 We have been roaming around in the western, but the pradesh to understand the politics of Malwa Nima region
00:13 That's the one of the major or the most important regions for this mother this has some elections
00:17 So today we are here to understand that what is the importance of Malwa Nima region?
00:22 And not only that it is said that among the 47 st seats
00:27 Whoever is going to win or whoever is going to gain out of this 47th
00:31 It's the seats they are going to form the mother to this government to understand
00:34 What is the what is the actual ground reality or what are the major political?
00:39 Political thoughts that actually work behind this sort of narratives we have come to a Jen
00:45 But the Pradesh Institute of Social Science Research and today we have with us the director of mother traditions to social science research
00:52 Dr. C. So the air so welcome
00:54 so
00:56 we will like to understand that as
00:58 Saying that there are 47 st
01:01 Seats and it is being said that for the from the last 20 years
01:05 It is seen that whenever any party gains in this they form the government
01:10 So why do you think it is so important this 47 seats and Adivasis how determine the whole political situation of?
01:16 Yeah, but the Pradesh should always be seen in terms of the reasons and there are
01:24 different reasons, but the tribal concentration is confined to
01:29 the Malwa Nimaad region another is the Vindi region and
01:34 the Makosa region the highest
01:38 sizable presence of
01:41 the tribal constituency is from the tribal Nimaadi and
01:45 out of 28 seats last time the Congress was able to garner 21 seats and
01:53 That is the change
01:55 maker in terms of 2018 results and
01:58 we have seen in the state of mother place in the last 20 years that
02:03 BJP was getting extraordinarily good results from
02:07 these reason in 20
02:10 2003 2008 2013 and
02:14 when this
02:16 Table was turned in 2018 the result came in favor of Congress
02:22 So these 47 seats are going to be very very decisive in terms of even
02:29 2023 results and
02:32 the major narrative which has been created by the
02:37 Sentiments of the individuals even BJP has tried hard to address the issue of the tribals
02:44 They are calling the Adivasi as one Vasi
02:48 they have given they have tried to revoke the
02:52 Pesa very
02:55 Important progressive law which is meant for the tribal population. Yes. Yes, they have even
03:02 Given due witness to Tatya Bhil and Mirza Munda and all that
03:07 so reason is very specific that they want to capture the
03:12 tribal vote but tribal
03:17 Affinity in terms of the vote is not always in favor of
03:22 only BJP
03:25 they have been giving vote to Congress and
03:28 This is what we have seen in 2018 and there is no big
03:33 reason that
03:35 The en masse vote is going to change in favor of BJP in
03:40 2023 so this tricky situation is going to take the final call in terms of the results of
03:47 2023 and
03:49 It is not practically possible to get such a mammoth victory
03:55 for BJP in tribalism because
03:58 all the major surveys which have taken place in the last few months are suggesting that
04:04 the tribal regions
04:07 Congress is gaining and if this is what the filler is coming from the
04:12 people surveys or opinion polls, then it shows that
04:17 despite all efforts the
04:20 BJP's situation is not
04:24 Extraordinarily well in this region, but the last
04:29 Result is going to be the determined fact a determinant factor for
04:36 both Congress and BJP in this region
04:38 It's a good lastly one thing. So that as as you rightly said that the very working fifth schedule
04:45 They're working face are but Congress is even promising that they're going to give
04:49 Us currently right for the last few years
04:57 So do you think it's
05:03 Actually possible to to mark the sixth schedule area or is it just a hollow promise?
05:09 What do you see?
05:09 No
05:10 Look, if you look at the decentralization the decentralization has taken place in the time of Congress and
05:17 Madhya Pradesh was the first state to implement both 73rd Amendment Act and
05:22 Likewise the case of Peshak Act. Peshak Act was in fact came into being in the year
05:29 1997 and Madhya Pradesh was the first state in 1998 to implement the Peshak and now the new rules are framed
05:37 So Peshak is not a new
05:39 for the tribal community
05:42 Peshak has a history of 25 years
05:45 so now both the major political parties are making their own claims in terms of
05:51 the best they have done for the tribal community, but
05:56 now
05:59 the election has gone into a very close fight and
06:02 This close fight is going to be very strong decider
06:07 And the victory margin will be very very minimal in this time
06:12 as well as we have seen in
06:15 so
06:17 the crucial factors or defectors or dissenters or rebellions or
06:22 saboteurs are going to
06:26 Change the scenario for any potential winning candidate
06:30 Thank you. Thanks a lot after so there so you can you can understand that what is the politics over there in the
06:36 Malwa-Nima region how the tribal votes are going to actually determine who is going to take over the last in the next
06:43 election so in this context I like to conclude through some some observations that when when we were across roaming around this
06:53 Malwa-Nima region and we were trying to understand the internal politics as as Dr.
06:57 Sisewiya rightly says there is a sort of you know inclination toward Congress that that can be seen but still
07:06 the way the other surveys in the last few days or rather
07:10 You
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