Protests Targeting ICE Operations in Chicago and Portland #News

Protests Targeting ICE Operations in Chicago and Portland #News

Anti-ICE protesters clash with law enforcement in Chicago, Illinois and Portland, Oregon Saturday morning. Tensions in Chicago escalated shortly after an armed suspect was shot by law enforcement in the Southwest Side area.

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00:00the vantage point of Chicago that we were looking at before we were talking about Europe. But let's

00:04get to this second vantage point. This is Portland, Oregon, we're being told from our

00:07Edge affiliate. And what we're seeing here are, and you know what, Hal, I'll actually just refer

00:15to you here. What do you make of this scene? We know that there's been protests planned. We are

00:21familiar with these types of images at this point. We saw it happen in Los Angeles. We've seen

00:26protests in Illinois, in Washington, DC. And now it appears that we're seeing some of this activity

00:31and some people wiping their eyes. And Portland, Oregon, your reaction? I think this, and I may be

00:38wrong, but I think this is the ICE facility in South Portland that was the scene of a number of

00:44other protests. You know, actually, a lot of the protest activity there, despite all the political

00:49rhetoric on it, hadn't been that intense, although it would pick up in the evenings. But during the day,

00:54it was not uncommon. If you went by that facility, you might see a handful of people out there

00:59protesting, although some of them show up and they have Antifa signs. And of course, Antifa

01:04has been designated by the president as a domestic terrorist organization. So that changes how people

01:11look at that. But what you're seeing here is they're dispersing the crowd. And it could be a variety

01:18of techniques. Sometimes they'll just throw out tear gas right away. Another technique is you'll throw

01:24out smoke. And in many cases, people, and it's not a very pleasant thing to do, but you throw out smoke

01:34and then people mistakenly think, oh, it's not tear gas. And they start walking into it. And then you

01:39toss out the tear gas and you tend to have a greater effect on the unruly mob, if you will. And I'm not

01:47saying they're doing that. But I am seeing it looks like a variety of smoke and gas, maybe a combination

01:55that they're using. In some areas, I'm seeing where they're clearly wearing gas masks. And in other

02:01areas, they weren't wearing gas masks, which means they may have just been using smoke to help disperse

02:06the crowd. But we see when you see colored smoke like that, that's probably not a tear gas smoke.

02:14That's just something that's done to get the crowd to move back. I will say, though, if you ever get

02:21caught in that type of smoke in a closed space, it can have a definite effect on you. That's pretty

02:29toxic smoke. And an open area where you can get to air, you'll be okay. But if you're in a closed space,

02:36it can be, it can really do a number on you. So yeah, go ahead.

02:41You know, this, I always like to remind the public when we watch scenes like this, because

02:47you and I have sat on air and watched protests of this nature so many times throughout the year.

02:54And we see the use of less than lethal rounds being deployed in some cases. Just because something is

03:03less than lethal doesn't mean it's not dangerous and it can't hurt. Correct, Hal?

03:08For example,

03:09you have to talk in English and try to...

03:11Less than lethal rubber bullets. People have been killed with those. If it's a, you know,

03:18it's a rare shot, but every once in a while things can happen. Of course, you can also have things

03:22where people lose eyes or something else like that. So less than lethal doesn't mean completely

03:29non-lethal. In fact, the term for a long time was non-lethal. And overall, they just, they quit

03:35using the term non-lethal and they would say less lethal or less than lethal. And even less than

03:42lethal, not everything there is completely non-lethal. And of course, you know, depending on one's

03:47physiology or, you know, whatever, if you put tear gas out there, you know, some people have a

03:52stronger effect. It'll, I shouldn't say it'll have a stronger effect on some people than have on

03:56others. So, you know, with, with any of the, with any of the weapons that are used, whether it's

04:03lethal or non-lethal, there always is a certain amount of risk as to what can happen. And so they're

04:10trying to disperse the crowd right now. A lot of what you're seeing here in Portland and certainly what

04:15we're seeing in Chicago is tied to the National Guard deployments. I think this weekend is when

04:21the National Guard units that were activated and training in Woodburn to the south and Salem

04:27are supposed to be deploying into Portland. So the reason you might see these crowds right now today

04:33is because they're expecting the National Guard presence to suddenly show up at places like the

04:39ICE facility in South Portland and maybe other facilities as well. And then of course, there's a report

04:44out that within, I don't know, maybe right now, currently that President Trump is federalizing

04:53National Guard troops in Illinois that would be deployed into supposedly being deployed in Chicago.

04:59And so with both locations, you would see an impetus for a higher, a higher number of protesters

05:06in each because they're expecting to see National Guard troops show up.

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