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With an approval rating of 79 percent in late August, up from around 70 percent after she took office, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has not just survived a year of diplomatic wrangling with US President Donald Trump and fighting cartel violence, she is thriving on it. FRANCE 24's Sharon Gaffney speaks with Ernesto Castaneda, Director of the Centre for Latin American and Latino Studies and the Immigration Lab at the American University in Washington, about the secret to her success.

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00:00this is apropos well she's not just survived a year of diplomatic wrangling
00:07with Donald Trump and fighting cartel violence but according to pundits has
00:11been thriving on it Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum has been assailed by
00:16selfie seeking supporters over the past month as she reports back to voters on
00:20her first year in office while she enjoys an approval rating of about 70
00:25percent she's also been criticized in some quarters over her record on crime
00:29as Celina Sykes reports on the 15th of September in Mexico City Independence Day
00:37felt like more of an event than usual for the first time in the country's
00:41history a woman delivered the traditional cry that kicked off celebrations
00:47Claudia Sheinbaum the first female president of Mexico was elected by an
00:59overwhelming majority in June 2024 popularity that has remained intact a
01:04year into office a survey in late August found that she had an approval rating of
01:0979% unprecedented for a leader in Latin America the key to this success the
01:16chamber method self-discipline perhaps from her 14 years of classical dancing a
01:22pragmatic approach almost certainly from her scientific background as a former
01:27member of the intergovernmental panel on climate change and also cautiousness
01:32qualities that have allowed her to cope with Donald Trump's unpredictable
01:36nature and get one of the lowest percentages of tariffs
01:42she's known not only how to manage North American politics but how to handle Trump
01:47himself concrete results also seen in other areas like the national poverty rate
01:54which stood at just under 30 percent in 2024 compared to 42 percent in 2018 a
02:01decrease largely driven by her predecessor mentor Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador who
02:07inspired Sheinbaum's policies on women's rights and minorities among other issues
02:12there have been several big changes for example the support she's given the
02:17elderly that's been the most important to us a first year full of success but
02:25there are also a lot of challenges left to tackle the fight against
02:29corruption drug trafficking and cartel violence huge complicated tasks while
02:35Trump is demanding quick results otherwise more tariffs could be coming
02:40Mexico's way in November well for more let's bring in Ernesto Castaneda director of
02:46the Center for Latin American and Latino Studies and the immigration lab at the
02:50American University in Washington Ernesto thanks so much for being with us on the
02:55program so one year in the Mexican president remains extremely popular among
03:01foreign voters more so than the five heads of states who preceded her what explains it
03:07that's right I mean without a doubt this is a historical presidency is the first time that
03:16Mexico has a female leader she is Jewish part of our religious minority and she has been
03:22very distinguished doing this job she has been very cold-headed at the same time that she's warm with
03:29the people she has shown a lot of respect to the poor to the indigenous people to women in a way
03:37that is not just part of the speeches or the discourse or performative or in electoral times
03:42but even one selected president as we can see in the images she's warm she wants to feel close to the
03:47people and she is interested in governing well governing for everybody and also keeping at the same time
03:54humble and accepting that they're gonna be mistakes make and that she's not perfect that she's not the
04:00savior of Mexico but she's a servant of the country so I think that's working really well
04:04internally and internationally another thing that I think has been super successful is as you were
04:10saying the way that she's dealing with Donald Trump she has done a master class and how to do it
04:17she has been cool-headed she was she has not been that tit-for-tat debating online or in person
04:25against the president even when he says inappropriate things but she has not seated ground publicly and
04:31she has been able to negotiate very effectively being respectful and at the same time gaining the
04:36respect of President Trump which is not an easy feat to do yeah and she famously joked that the U.S.
04:41would be renamed Mexican America back in January after Trump had talked about changing the name of
04:49the Gulf of Mexico has she changed her tone though when it comes to the U.S. president since then and
04:54is that how she has managed to gain his respect? That was one of the few exceptions when she
05:00played along and she tried to retort with a with a comic response but most of the time she has been
05:08very self-measured she hasn't played along and she has reiterated that she is there to do what's best
05:17for for Mexicans and that she's open to cooperate with the U.S. in issues that are important for both
05:23countries trade immigration the environment drug trafficking but that Mexico is a sovereign country
05:30so that plays really well with the nationalistic discourse within Mexico at the same time that is
05:36diplomatic and open to cooperation indeed on this area so it's been a very hard balance to keep but
05:42she has done it very well. She's extremely popular as we say but she has faced criticism as well over her
05:48government's efforts to combat crime also on the stance she's taken on Gaza so what kind of challenges
05:54lie ahead for her going into this second year do you think Ernesto?
05:57President Sheinbaum and Mexico in general face enormous changes the population is aging the population birth is
06:08declining or birth rates are declining so it's a time when Mexico needs immigrants and it's at the same time
06:15Mexico has played a key role in reducing the number of people that arrived to the U.S.-Mexico border and following the
06:23lines of López Manuel López Obrador the previous president Mexico has been deporting more Central Americans than the U.S.
06:31And I think part of the challenges that she and others want to do is how to make sure that some immigrants can call Mexico home
06:38that some people can get asylum and become refugees and settle in Mexico while also keeping the immigration topic in order in terms of the U.S.-Mexico border.
06:50Again a very very difficult task but she has delivered for the U.S. and that's why she has gotten a lot of support
06:55quietly from the United States. But there's many challenges. Violence is a big issue in Mexico
07:01against women but in general. Drug trafficking, using the military to fight against them from previous administrations has not worked.
07:11The previous president supposedly was going to make agreements and be more diplomatic with the drug trafficking.
07:17He didn't really change the way Mexico dealt with the drug trafficking cartels. There's obviously issues of corruption.
07:23So there are huge problems but they will face any president. Whoever it was, a man or whatever party,
07:30it will be the same challenges that are very hard to tackle. But she's been patient and she's been as intelligent as possible
07:36dealing with this. But it's something that's going to take a lot of time to fix.
07:40And she and her Canadian counterpart, they're going to be preparing to take on Washington again next year
07:45during the review of their three-way free trade deal. How important and significant a moment will that be for the Mexican economy?
07:53It's very important. Mexican economy is really, really connected to the U.S. economy and the tariffs that were proposed by President Trump
08:04would really hurt the American, the Mexican economy, the American economy too, but also the prospects of growth of Mexico,
08:12which was almost counting with a near shoring of many industries moving from China to Mexico closer to the U.S. and Canadian markets
08:22for more prosperity, for Mexico finally becoming a wealthy country, more developed.
08:28But we're seeing a lot of struggles in that area. So it's been a tight line to walk between continuing trade with China.
08:38But as we saw today, now there's also more tariffs that have increased with Mexico vis-a-vis Chinese-made woods.
08:45So it's part of the pressure that the Trump administration has put on Mexico.
08:49And it's a tight thing because the agreement had already, NAFTA had already been negotiated by the Trump administration
08:57and they had come to an agreement. And now Trump again is asking to negotiate, putting Mexico and Canada in a tough position.
09:04But it's good that Canada and Mexico are working together to have a united front.
09:08They're more likely to have a stronger position to negotiate from with the U.S. administration.
09:13And as we say, her approval ratings, they'd be the envy of most world leaders, really.
09:17But do you think she's kept a relatively low profile on the global stage?
09:22We didn't see her at the U.N. General Assembly, for example, in New York last week.
09:26That is correct. She's been very careful in accepting that she has a lot of work to do in Mexico,
09:34that she has a tough position to play in terms of diplomacy already with the United States and Canada.
09:42And she's following a little bit on the steps of López Obrador, who was also rarely at these international gatherings,
09:50something that goes against the tradition of foreign Mexican presidents, who will be part of these multilateral meetings.
09:56AMLO did not attend and she hasn't attended as much, which I think is useful at a time that a lot of the speeches at the U.N. were disastrous.
10:04They were very polemical and many people were dissatisfied with many of the speeches.
10:09So I think she was wise in not trying to show herself and not to let her ego take the best out of her and stay at home.
10:16I think in this in this U.N. meeting, that was probably the smartest thing to do.
10:20And do you think that her support among voters is going to continue domestically?
10:25She has faced some scandals within her own political circle in terms of corruption allegations.
10:34Yes, in some way, she owes her position to her predecessor, to AMLO, as we call him in Mexico.
10:42And she depends and needed the party of Morena to get elected and to have the support that she has in the control of Congress and now the courts.
10:52So the negative thing is that that has given her a lot of support, popularity and network across the country.
10:59But then she also has to respond for the corruption and the excesses and the mistakes of members of that party, which is which is a heavy thing to do.
11:09And then also, unfortunately, Mexico, in a way, Mexico used to have a one party system for many decades until 2000.
11:17And now that party is weaker, the PRI.
11:20But now the party of Schoenbaum is they they've become a one party system that dominates most areas of politics in Mexico.
11:29So that some some some critics say that there's been a democratic backsliding as as this this party now has also control of the courts, which are not an elected position.
11:41So the the opposition, the center and right wing parties are very critical of that concentration of power in her party.
11:50And just finally, before you go, not surprisingly, perhaps she's very popular with female voters, housewives in particular.
11:56What has she done to improve the lives of women over the past year?
11:59Yeah, I mean, symbolically, but I think also realistically, she has given a lot of highlighting to indigenous women, people that were invisible, that were seen as lesser than throughout Mexican history.
12:19And she has included the figures, the images of indigenous women in a lot of the official documents and signs and designs that the Mexican government is using.
12:34So that has gone a long way.
12:35And she's talking and she's showing that women are equally capable of being president of Mexico and being CEOs.
12:42I mean, she also has a background in science.
12:45So I think that goes a long way to showing that Mexican women can do as well as anybody else.
12:51And even though there's the stereotype that people in Mexico are very masculine in the cities, in the middle class, women have for a long time been treated equally as men.
13:00And she shows this.
13:02Ernesto Castaneda, thanks so much for being with us on the program this evening.
13:06Well, that's.

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