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00:00It's been three years, and we're still nowhere closer to getting this done, and I want my life to move forward.
00:10Barry and I are not divorced yet. It's been over three years. It's really, really hard.
00:17The bright side of Olivia Leap in my life is that I have a full and healthy relationship with my family now.
00:25Unfortunately, me and Olivia are not divorced. The paperwork did not go through. It's frustrating.
00:31At this point, she won't respond to my attorney or my texts.
00:36You may kiss the bride.
00:39Let's go!
00:42After the wedding last night, Micah and Isaac got into a fight.
00:46He hit me first, I guess. He kind of started it.
00:50Everything that was emotional that fueled the fight from that point on was you.
00:54You said that Tegan was on OnlyFans.
00:57Yeah.
00:57Did you say that?
00:58Yeah.
00:58You also called Kay on the slut.
01:00You called Kay on the slut.
01:01No, I did not call her a slut. I called her a liar.
01:03I can't believe they're blaming me, but it is so up their alley.
01:05I just didn't think this far of a stretch could happen, but it did.
01:11When you come in here and start telling us my family's a problem and don't even know Olivia...
01:15She's a good woman to be like. I like her.
01:17That concludes it here, Micah. Your woman wants to be like Olivia. Do you want that?
01:24Are you ready to go on our honeymoon?
01:36I am ready. Let's go.
01:39You look ready. I mean, come on. This outfit.
01:43I'm heading to Europe.
01:44Oh my goodness.
01:45I'm going to be in Paris for three days, Germany for two and a half weeks.
01:50So...
01:50And then we'll see. We haven't booked our return flights yet.
01:54So we'll see.
01:55The wedding was definitely very peaceful.
02:07It was perfect in every way. Everything and more.
02:11I think just having our people there really just completed it.
02:15We're married now. We can kiss.
02:20Among other things.
02:23How did the wedding night go? And did ya?
02:28And did ya?
02:31I mean, obviously, the wedding night is just between Zach and I.
02:35But I will say it was, um, pure and beautiful.
02:44It's such an intimate experience that there's soul ties that happen.
02:48Like actual chemical connection when you have sex with your surroundings.
02:53And so, that's...
02:56Say that again? Have sex with your surroundings?
02:59No, like...
03:00Chemical connections to...
03:02Chemical connections.
03:02Did I say that? That was weird.
03:03Yeah. That was... That was a little weird.
03:07I don't even remember what the question was.
03:10I think, like, overall, what made the day so perfect was just this...
03:16I mean, everyone was there for us.
03:18Yeah.
03:18And, like...
03:20I just don't know how to describe it.
03:22It was just, like, everyone was so overjoyed to see us.
03:26And everyone was encouraging.
03:28It was just such a great day.
03:30And, like, I didn't feel like there was any drama.
03:33That concludes it here.
03:35Micah, your woman wants to be like Olivia.
03:37Do you want that?
03:38I don't.
03:40I know I'm at a crossroads, and it's either we spill everything out on the table and work through it somehow,
03:48or we spill everything out on the table and walk away from it.
03:51If you don't want to change and accept my family and actually work on improving them...
03:55So I need to change?
03:56Yes, you absolutely do.
03:57You do have to change.
03:58Do you think I can keep living like this?
04:00I have to change my beliefs and ethics.
04:03No, you just don't have to disrespect...
04:05So if you're going to continue trying to find dirt on family members that doesn't exist,
04:08yet sme...
04:09I don't know where you got that mud, but smearing it over everything?
04:12There's certain things that I might be wrong about.
04:15Yes, I'm a human.
04:18You're not apologizing.
04:19I don't...
04:20You're not finding Tegan's only fan, which you have lied about over the years.
04:22It might just be clickbait articles, but I don't...
04:25So how can you find a clickbait article and accuse her of having it when it's just clickbait?
04:30Yes, because we're on our way to therapy for him cheating, and he cheats,
04:34and I was worried that he would cheat on me with you because he's...
04:37Get the hell out of here.
04:39Why would Micah cheat on you with me?
04:40How disrespectful to say that he would cheat on my girlfriend.
04:45I definitely feel for Veronica in this moment.
04:47I can't imagine being in a room where, you know, you're feeling so attacked.
04:52I do think and know everything she said.
04:55It was a lie in one form or another, and I don't want to excuse that behavior,
05:00but I do give her grace and feel for her.
05:03In the room, you say it might be clickbait.
05:06It might.
05:07It might be clickbait that a thousand things.
05:10There's mites to everything.
05:12Everything in this world, nothing is certain except life and death and taxes.
05:16Look at these two.
05:17Look at these two beautiful women.
05:18You have problems with them.
05:20That's not their fault.
05:21I don't really have problems with Caitlin.
05:22Is it possible that you were wrong about Tegan?
05:26It's possible I was wrong.
05:27It's also possible I was wrong about Micah.
05:29It's also possible I'm wrong about being a blonde.
05:32It's also possible I'm wrong that I'm not the mayor.
05:34Yeah, anything's possible.
05:37Veronica, you never really apologized to me.
05:40About what?
05:41Much less anyone else.
05:42About what?
05:43Exactly.
05:44An apology I would love to get from Veronica is just the name-calling, the belittling.
05:50It would be awesome to know she didn't mean that.
05:54The fight was why we were here, but that was the cause.
05:56That was the anger that I was feeling because of you.
06:00All the anger and everything.
06:01I would not have hit my own brother unless I had something like that built up inside.
06:05The reason this actually happened, the punch that-
06:08Are you going to blame me for your nose right now?
06:11Yes.
06:11Yes.
06:11We all are.
06:14What is going on?
06:15What is my life right now?
06:17How am I here?
06:18Veronica, you have manipulated everyone in this family, and then there's high feelings because
06:24of some of this stuff, and it ends up in a punch fight, and that's too bad, and that
06:28shouldn't have happened.
06:29But can you not see that you're at the root of all of that?
06:33I mean, it could be that, or it could be the family dynamics.
06:36I don't think even not being there causing a physical altercation is what happened.
06:40Everyone else in the family gets along.
06:42You're the common denominator.
06:46All of this would have a different outcome if she responded differently, but that wasn't
06:51her position at all.
06:53The more evidence we gave for what actually happened, the more she dug her heels in.
06:59Why did you come here?
07:00To support my gun, Lydia.
07:01Okay, well, you have done none of that.
07:03The cows didn't need your damn support.
07:05They're fat enough as they are.
07:06That's all you did is hang out there in the mud feeding cows because you burned every
07:10relationship with everyone here.
07:11I'm getting attacked.
07:12Like the drama.
07:13Yeah, rightfully so.
07:14Veronica, the reason you're getting attacked is because you have attacked every one of us.
07:18Every single person here.
07:19Amber, Kaylin, Isaac, my mom, Ethan, Tegan.
07:22I have yelled at me.
07:23Even people that are not here.
07:25Either I strictly choose her over my family and continue down a very difficult road, or
07:33I just cut ties.
07:35Veronica's not going to change.
07:37This is going nowhere.
07:38That's right.
07:38She's going to be right.
07:39I think we need to leave.
07:43Go back to Boca.
07:47And we are done.
07:49I'm like, I'll come down and help you pack.
07:51It kind of feels like Veronica just kept, you know, pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch
08:00of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
08:02The truth always comes out.
08:05And nothing stays secrets for forever.
08:10I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia.
08:13And Ethan wanted to talk.
08:15And so we are going to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
08:18I feel a little anxious.
08:23Our last conversations did not go well.
08:34I think we need to go back to Boca.
08:36And we are done.
08:38Michael, I'll come down and help you pack.
08:41When I tell Veronica that it's over, and I think we both know that it's not going to work out,
08:46but she doesn't really say much.
08:51Do you think Veronica wanted you to break up with her?
08:54No, I don't know.
08:55It's a good possibility.
08:56You put gasoline on a wooden bridge and lit a match and threw it on there and then said,
09:01oh, poor me, I can't cross.
09:04Maybe I did.
09:06Maybe I did light a match.
09:08Honestly, I'm more into science experiments than bridges that could be burnt down by one match.
09:14Veronica, you probably don't see it because you are incapable of understanding this,
09:19but you missed out on a good family.
09:20You did?
09:21Yeah.
09:21Amen.
09:22Honestly, though.
09:23And that look right there says it all.
09:26That's the truth.
09:28Nice knowing you, Veronica.
09:29Too shy.
09:37Are you okay?
09:39I deserve more than to get cheated on.
09:44I deserve more than to get lied about.
09:48I guess when they went low, I went lower.
09:51Not by me.
09:53I was 100% on your side up until this morning when I found out you were calling me names behind my back.
09:58And then I can't.
10:00I can't do that.
10:01I don't think I could let people in that I don't trust.
10:04Then you'll never have relationships.
10:06And that's why, I just want you to see, that's why your relationship with this family failed.
10:10Because you didn't let us in.
10:11Not because we didn't let you in.
10:13I let you guys in.
10:15No, you didn't.
10:16Not by calling us names and backstabbing us.
10:21I'm sorry for hurting you.
10:28I appreciate the words, I don't really believe it.
10:35Maybe it's genuine, and maybe it's not.
10:37I don't know.
10:39Fair.
10:39I've seen and heard enough today to know that I don't really want anything further to do with you.
10:47Good-o.
10:50Maybe I did sabotage it at the end.
10:52Maybe I was so tired of this messed up family and this toxic relationship that I said, add the catalyst.
11:00So what if I did?
11:05I feel like I'm in chemistry class, like mixing things together, and it's going to explode any second.
11:10Does Micah know that we talked at all?
11:12No.
11:13I know this will go bad.
11:15Mark my words.
11:16You're not emotionally intelligent.
11:18Grow a pair.
11:20As things progressed, I made up in my own mind that I couldn't be with somebody that could treat me like that.
11:26I don't think it's normal to look up your brother's girlfriend's naked photos.
11:29She's going around and just spreading rumors.
11:32I was prolonging something that needed to happen long ago.
11:36My claws are under their mountains.
11:38If I could wish one thing, I wish it happened sooner.
11:43I was scared to be alone, because I thought alone was the worst thing.
11:48But the worst thing is a toxic relationship where you lose love for yourself.
11:53I want people to know I did love him.
11:59I was experimenting, honestly, at this point with a bunch of chemistry beakers, fragile glass, toxic chemicals.
12:13And Micah and I were two beautiful chemicals, but toxic together.
12:20And the catalyst was the family.
12:23I never thought something like that would happen.
12:30But I guess it's my fault.
12:33So what do you want to do as far as, like, getting down there and getting your stuff?
12:44I'm going to take my truck.
12:46Is she riding with you?
12:48If it's drug out, prolonged, lengthened anything, it's going to be even harder.
12:53Should I fly back and ship your stuff?
12:55You're going to ship my boat for me?
12:56I mean, I won't pay for it, but I can logistically sign it up.
13:00Yeah, no, I'll drive you back.
13:02I'll drop you off.
13:04So after we break up, my first response is, you know, I can, I will drive you back.
13:11I don't know if we should ride back in the same car.
13:14If you ride back in the same car, I think you should at least have one of us with you.
13:18Probably.
13:19I was going to say, I wouldn't go down there with her by yourself.
13:23Because you know how manipulative she can be.
13:26Yep.
13:28Shortly after I came to the conclusion that seven hours in the car together would probably not be the best thing right now.
13:34I left Veronica with the producers and absolutely knew they were escorting her back to her home.
13:42Come on, Isaac.
13:44So Ethan and Isaac agreed to go with me to go down and grab all my things.
13:49I'm proud of you, Micah.
13:51Yeah, it took, I mean, it took a lot.
13:53Two trucks, two boats, a motorcycle and a car.
14:23Yeah.
14:29Well, we got back late last night from picking up all my stuff down at Boca.
14:34It was hard, I guess not at first because I had been really frustrated.
14:37But after, like, you know, I started going through the garage and getting the last of my stuff, it really hit me.
14:47I mean, I just broke down.
14:49I couldn't help it.
14:50And she broke down.
14:51She was like, why, why?
14:52Just tell me you never loved me.
14:54Any closure that way?
14:55And I was like, I can't tell you that.
14:56I loved you very much.
14:57I've never, never loved anyone like I loved you.
15:01I never had a relationship like this.
15:02And then she was like, well, was I your guinea pig then?
15:04I was like, no, it was all very real.
15:06And I'm sorry I had hurt you as bad as I had, but I just couldn't, couldn't keep doing that.
15:12Which room are you going to live in?
15:14I think Isaac's old room.
15:17But Zach's got all his stuff in there still.
15:19For the time being, I'm going to unpack my things, settle in up here, and I think I'm going to give it about a week, and then I'll go back down to South Florida and keep fencing.
15:29On top of everything that's going on, we found out Veronica is in the virtual realm spewing out lots of things that are just not true.
15:42Veronica is saying that me, Mike, and Isaac had left her abandoned on the side of the road.
15:47Yeah.
15:48Absolutely not true.
15:50She's accused my family of abusing animals, which is not true.
15:54She's accused my family of incest, which is absolutely not true.
15:59All she is trying to do is find anything that would make someone look bad and spread it out there.
16:08I don't think there's a need to entertain that stuff.
16:10I think most people can easily read through that.
16:13She acts like she's anti-bullying, but she sure does it herself.
16:16I think trying to heal, trying to get over it is going to be much easier for me if I don't look at all that stuff.
16:23I've never said that she's a liar.
16:26I've just noticed that she may have embellished the narrative.
16:30Then I just started to realize she's proven she's a liar.
16:35Tonight, we're doing a controlled burn at the farm, and it will be a humongous cloud of smoke, and it'll look like a disaster.
16:56I'm just going to make sure it doesn't get close to the woods.
17:00It'll scare you if you do it wrong.
17:03But a controlled burn will prevent a more devastating fire later on.
17:08It's okay if it keeps burning.
17:13Even though there's some good in it, you have to burn it all down and get rid of the good with the bad if it's not salvageable so you can start over.
17:23It kind of feels like Veronica just kept pouring lighter fluid on a whole bunch of different stuff and tempting me to light it.
17:33And every time we'd get in an argument, every time she would threaten me to leave, tell me to pack my stuff, get out of here.
17:38I didn't want to.
17:39I had a box of matches in my hand, but I didn't want to use them.
17:41That match had to be lit and thrown down on the lighter fluid.
17:44My therapist was like, have you overthought that maybe God sent Veronica to make you realize you want to settle down?
17:59And not just take relationships and women and all that stuff for granted just for pleasure.
18:04There's actually a very rewarding relationship with someone, not something shallow, just for fun.
18:08Even though she might not be the one, it might have taken her for me to come to that realization, you know?
18:17You know, living a double life and not being transparent about my past.
18:22I cheated on her.
18:23I feel very, very, very for putting her through that.
18:27You know, I learned that all that will catch up to you.
18:29The truth always comes out and nothing stays secrets for forever.
18:38It's been quite a week, hasn't it?
18:58Yeah, it has.
18:59I got a little gift for you, but there is one string attached.
19:04Where's the string?
19:06You have to teach me how to smoke one.
19:08Whoa.
19:10We've had a pretty chaotic couple of days here at the farm.
19:14Ethan is with me and we're hanging out, enjoying a little bit of downtime after all of the excitement.
19:22So I bite the end off.
19:24I've never really smoked a cigar.
19:26One time in college, I took a puff from somebody else's, but I inhaled deeply and apparently you're not supposed to do that.
19:32Any tips for biting it off?
19:34Just a very tip.
19:36Just the tip?
19:37Just the very tip.
19:38That's awkward.
19:42That's what she said?
19:46Not that much.
19:47I love hanging out with Ethan.
19:49I kind of feel like we're making up for lost time, you know?
19:52I'm glad for Mike that he got out of that relationship.
19:56I was talking to him last night.
19:58I was like, man, if I could go back and I could get out of mine and Olivia's relationship as quickly as you got out of yours with Veronica's.
20:05Yeah.
20:05Man, but you live and you learn.
20:08Yeah.
20:09My mom and dad are not divorced yet because I haven't come to an agreement on who gets what.
20:14And then me and Olivia are not divorced because the first application wasn't filled out correctly.
20:19And after I hired an attorney to deal with it, Olivia will not respond to my attorney.
20:28Yeah, me and Tegan, I love Tegan so much.
20:31I guess the only thing is, like, where am I going to live?
20:34I really, really feel like I need to be back down here.
20:37But I don't think she can move down here at the moment.
20:40Do you know when she could?
20:41It doesn't bother Tegan that I'm not divorced.
20:46It just bothers her more so that nothing is happening to come to that point.
20:52I wanted to apologize to you for going along with all the crap that Olivia did for so long.
20:58And I don't know why I did.
21:00The last two years I really spent a lot of time reading and, you know, educating myself and, I guess, developing and just knowing why I think and believe the things I do.
21:11So I can explain myself.
21:13And one of those things is family.
21:16You can't cut off your family, you know, for your spouse's sake, you know.
21:23Yeah.
21:24I really admire Ethan for, you know, really trying to make things work with Olivia.
21:29And, you know, I tried for 25 years with Barry.
21:33You know, it's hard to try to make a marriage work.
21:37I probably won't feel fully free until I'm divorced from Barry.
21:43I still feel just chained down.
21:47So anyways, I'm sorry for not standing up to her.
21:51I just, I wanted, I wanted us to work out some of that.
21:53I loved her.
21:54I couldn't articulate my thoughts and feelings very well at all.
21:59It was clear to me you were walking on eggshells and I hated that for you.
22:02So it is so freeing to not walk on eggshells anymore, to not answer to anyone.
22:09So how was it?
22:35How did the deed go down?
22:37How did it go?
22:45Was it as good as he thought?
22:47Lydia, be truthful.
22:51How are you guys doing?
22:52What are you guys up to?
22:54Mike and Veronica broke up, so I went and helped Mike move up from Boca to Georgia.
23:00Oh my, I guess I should call Mike.
23:02Yeah, that'll be good.
23:03Lydia, did you know Micah and Isaac got into a fight the night of your wedding over Veronica?
23:09Isaac sent Micah to the ER.
23:12He hit him with his elbow.
23:14He had to get stitches in the nose.
23:15You know, the outcome of that was that they're no longer together.
23:20Yeah.
23:21Well, thanks for the update there, I guess.
23:24Anything else new?
23:25Yeah, Zach, do me a favor.
23:27Make sure you fill those croissants with cream.
23:34Yeah.
23:35Okay, bye.
23:37Love you.
23:39We didn't keep them on the phone long because they have pressing business.
23:45Pressing up against each other.
23:46Oh, you had to go there.
23:49I did.
23:51I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
23:54Oh, well, what do you want?
23:56If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise get me the bottle.
24:00No, no, no, no.
24:02I'll do that.
24:04Will you please stop slandering and disrespecting my family in public for things, whether you perceive them to be true or not?
24:11Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
24:41Olivia interview, A.B. Marker.
24:49One husband didn't work out.
24:50I'm trying for four now.
24:53I am divorced in spirit, not in legal paperwork, yeah.
25:00I was shooting a wedding this weekend in Georgia, and Ethan reached out.
25:06He said he wanted to talk, and so we are going to meet at a hotel in Thomasville.
25:12I'm living in Washington, D.C.
25:14I moved there from L.A. and signed a six-month lease in the city, just tried it out, explored, lived on my own for a bit.
25:22And then afterwards, Brendan and I signed a lease on a townhome together and moved in.
25:26And, yeah, I'm so happy.
25:28The last time I saw Ethan, well, the last time Ethan and I spoke was when I was in Minnesota, trying to get him to sign paperwork to get all that finalized.
25:41He did sign paperwork, but he didn't fill it out properly, so it was flagged by the courts it never went through.
25:46So I feel a little anxious about it.
25:49Our last conversations didn't go well.
25:51But at the end of the day, I would love to at least walk away from this and be divorced.
25:55I'm here at Kenwine in Thomasville.
26:13Well, Barry and I finally came to an agreement, signed, notarized, done just a couple days ago.
26:21And we are officially divorced.
26:24We went back and forth for over three years, and then finally we decided to sit down and do mediation.
26:28And that got us in one day to settle everything.
26:34And so now I thought it would be nice to just meet and have a glass of wine and just kind of close that chapter officially.
26:43And that's what we're doing.
26:44After a year and a half of nothing, not answering my texts, blocking me, not fixing the paperwork, not making any effort to be divorced, Ethan finally unblocked me.
27:03This was like a month and a half ago, maybe.
27:06And he was very, very, very urgent.
27:08We need to get divorced immediately.
27:09We need to get divorced now.
27:10And I'm like, what is going on?
27:12And I was traveling overseas at that moment, and I was like, listen, I will deal with this in a hot minute.
27:16Like, you made me wait a year and a half.
27:18I am not bending over backwards to make this happen right now for you.
27:22And then I learned that same day, that was the day he posted his new girlfriend online.
27:29So I'm not saying there's a correlation, but you can draw what you will from that.
27:33And so here I am.
27:35Get it all done.
27:36All in one weekend.
27:42Hello, hello.
27:47Hi.
27:47How are you doing?
27:48Good.
27:49How are you doing?
27:49I'm doing okay.
27:52I'm just so relieved.
27:55I'm like, oh boy.
27:59So what are you drinking?
28:01Well, I was hoping you'd buy me a drink.
28:06Oh, well, what do you want?
28:08Um, white wine.
28:09I prefer a bottle.
28:11If you want to be stingy, you can get me a glass, but otherwise get me the bottle.
28:15No, no, no, no.
28:17I'll do that.
28:18Bottoms up, girl.
28:19Okay, thank you.
28:21I never thought you and Kim would be at a wine bar.
28:24Yeah, here we are, you know.
28:25And, uh, you know, somebody was, uh, whining.
28:30We've got, uh, Alice.
28:32And then here's your non-alcoholic spritz.
28:35All right.
28:36Thank you, thank you.
28:37Here's to 25 years.
28:39Yep.
28:40This is my, uh, mini divorce party right now, but I'm, sometime I'll get my girlfriends together and we'll plan something fun.
28:48And this ain't it.
28:50Ha, ha, ha.
28:55Is Ethan coming?
29:01Uh, I think so.
29:16Ethan and I said we'd meet at four at the hotel here.
29:19He just texted me and said, I'll be there at 5 p.m.
29:23So.
29:24Do you know why he's running late?
29:26It's Ethan Flath.
29:28I see that some things have not changed.
29:35So, if we can sell the house, um, and get that other property paid off, then I feel like that's a step in the right direction.
29:43Yeah, that'll be big.
29:44Uh, Kim and I have agreed to sell the White House.
29:47So, we're both on board with that.
29:50And I'll be moving to one of our properties in Cairo and Kim will be doing whatever she has planned to do.
29:56I like the idea of me living out on the farm, like in a camper or something, and, um, you know, Ethan and or Micah and or Isaac building and living on the property, you know.
30:08There's a certain dynamic that Ethan and Micah and Isaac have together.
30:15Yeah.
30:15Right.
30:16So, they got the brother bond, and, uh, the brother bond wasn't there for all those years when, you know, the who, you know, was around.
30:27Yeah.
30:27And, um, things weren't smooth.
30:30Yeah.
30:30Right.
30:37Oh, Ethan's class.
30:43Ethan and I out at the front of the hotel in the middle there.
30:47Did he just text you again?
30:48No.
30:49Did he text you?
30:505.50.
30:53That's his ETA.
30:57That means, like, he just left.
30:59Yeah.
31:00Um, definitely gonna give him a s***.
31:07Please make your message.
31:08We'll see what he has to say for himself.
31:10I mean, I don't, when I was married to him, I took it personally that he did not communicate with me.
31:16Yeah, he called the meeting, so I think he owes me communication, but, like, it's not personal.
31:21It's who he is as a person.
31:22It's how he treats people.
31:24Ethan's here.
31:24Okay.
31:25Okay.
31:25Okay.
31:26Okay.
31:26Why are you so late?
31:56I had stuff to do.
31:57Yeah?
31:58Yeah.
32:00Okay.
32:02Two hours late.
32:05I would like for this to be done, and I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could both move on.
32:10All that you had to do was to talk to my attorney, and I didn't know why you weren't.
32:14Yeah, well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
32:17Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
32:22All I'm saying is, I have everything lined up.
32:25Let's do it.
32:26And move on.
32:27You made me wait a year and a half.
32:29You can at least be polite about asking.
32:32I asked you politely in every way.
32:35I am not apologizing for any of that.
32:36The crazy thing is, just a few short years ago, we were standing in the driveway, and that whole incident went down.
32:52So that's quite a...
32:54And that was all Olivia driven.
32:56Well, yeah.
32:57I mean, Ethan went along with it, but he really didn't...
33:00He was trying to save his marriage.
33:02You know?
33:02Yeah, I mean, that's understandable.
33:05And I see how that was.
33:05So, but it's just kind of a big change.
33:09Oh, yeah.
33:10To now, where he's changed.
33:13He's changed.
33:14He's become more like...
33:16The happy guy.
33:17Yeah.
33:18How's it going?
33:19How's it going?
33:19How are you so late?
33:20I had stuff to do.
33:21Yeah?
33:22Yeah.
33:23Hey.
33:24Hey.
33:28How's it going?
33:28Why are you so late?
33:30I had stuff to do.
33:31Yeah?
33:32Yeah.
33:34Okay.
33:35Two hours late?
33:40Okay.
33:42Sorry for being late.
33:44I'm late today.
33:46Yesterday is the last day that I'm in Cairo.
33:49And I had rented a bunch of equipment at my dad's house.
33:52And cut down trees.
33:54I just had to finish what I was doing before I could stop.
33:56Because by the time I got back from talking to her, it would be dark.
34:00Well, that's in the past is what it is.
34:03I couldn't do anything about it.
34:05Thank you for meeting me here.
34:06I got two things to say to you.
34:08Okay.
34:09When can we finalize everything?
34:13We can do it now.
34:14Do you have everything to do it now?
34:17You asked me in a text about our original papers.
34:21Those are gone.
34:22They closed the case.
34:27So my attorney said, if you get a hold of him, then he'll take care of everything.
34:32It can be done in two weeks.
34:34It'll cost you nothing.
34:36Yeah, I'm not paying.
34:38Oh, I understand.
34:39Olivia is saying it is my fault that stuff was filled out incorrectly.
34:44That is absolutely false.
34:47In November 23, Olivia came back after her summer in California.
34:51We sat down at the island in the kitchen in our apartment.
34:55She was on her laptop on the state's website filling out the application for divorce.
35:00I distinctly remember there was one section that had to do with her finances that she skipped.
35:07And it wasn't you that decided to skip it?
35:09No.
35:10And I'm pretty sure that's why it was sent back.
35:14I do have to say, I would like for this to be done.
35:22And I would like for this to be wrapped up so we could both move on.
35:24However, you both reached out to me during a time when I was one overseas.
35:30I was not even in the U.S.
35:31And then two, I told you like during tax season.
35:34And I didn't feel like there was a lot of wiggle room.
35:38Like there was a lot of push from your end to get it done.
35:40I'm ready to get it done.
35:42I would just like for there to be like some niceties and grace and timeline.
35:53That's fine with me.
35:54Um, the only reason for that was because I had everything lined up and all that you had to do was just talk to my attorney.
36:03And I didn't know why you weren't.
36:05Yeah, well, I was overseas when you guys were trying to contact me originally.
36:09Look, I am not arguing with you over the details of the divorce.
36:14All I'm saying is I have everything lined up.
36:16Let's do it and move on.
36:19We can and I'm not arguing with you either.
36:26But you made me wait a year and a half.
36:28You can at least be polite about asking.
36:30I asked you politely in every way.
36:34I am not apologizing for any of that.
36:37As soon as I saw Ethan, I knew he was not in a good mood.
36:40I guess I was hoping this time would be different.
36:43At least just being like polite.
36:46And I should know by now not to walk into it with expectations.
36:50The only other thing that I want to ask you is will you please stop slandering and disrespecting my family in public for things, whether you perceive them to be true or not?
37:04Would you please stop?
37:05No.
37:06Why?
37:07It's not slander.
37:09No, it is slander.
37:10Me talking about my life and my experiences is not slander.
37:16Anyone can say they experienced anything, but if it's actually not true, it is slander.
37:22Olivia seems to be coming closer and closer to what Veronica is, and that's a sad reality.
37:30I thought Olivia was more tactful.
37:32I thought, you know, she wouldn't just outright lie about things like Veronica.
37:35I just, I see them both the same now.
37:39They're both liars.
37:39It's infuriating to me because what she walked into, she claims it's awful.
37:47Some of it may have been unpleasant, but it is not nearly as bad as she makes it out to be.
37:52And it's also 100% true that the majority of the problems that she wants to talk about today of her experience, she also created.
38:03You've done nothing but separate me from my family, slander my family.
38:08Friends and family have let me know occasionally here and there, like when she's been on a podcast or when she's posted something and what she said.
38:16So, like, there's a lot of things, just like with Veronica, that she read into, that she created, that she made bigger than they ever were.
38:22And my parents are like, what the hell's going on here?
38:23My siblings.
38:24And then, and then after you made a situation 10 times worse, then you want to step back and say, look at all that I went through.
38:32It's just, it's a double standard.
38:34It's a victim mentality that pisses me the hell off.
38:37You wouldn't like it if I was doing it to your family.
38:39All I'm saying, please, from this day forward, leave my family out.
38:44I can't control what you do, what you don't do.
38:46But I'm just asking you, look at this on social media, the internet, to other people, please stop.
38:53Leave my family out of it.
38:55I can't do that because your family is a decade worth of experiences in my life that were hard, that made me the person that I am.
39:05They feel free to talk about what they think of me, but they don't want me to do the same for them because it doesn't reflect well on them.
39:13And I think that if people want to be talked about more warmly, they should have treated others better.
39:19I'm going to continue talking about my life.
39:22I'm going to continue talking about the things that I experienced, the things I learned from, the things that shaped the person that I am today.
39:31And I'm not asking you to not do that.
39:33I'm just saying, can you not do it in a slanderous way?
39:35Is telling the truth slandering people?
39:37Me and my family have not spoken out on social media, the internet, whatever, about anything that Veronica or Olivia have been saying.
39:45For one, I think their actions, very low, very dirty.
39:52It's definitely not following the golden rule.
39:53But also, I'm very confident if we did, it would literally start a he said, she said social media war.
40:03The only thing I'd say to Olivia, I think at this point, is thank you for the good times that we had.
40:10I would really like to officially, legally close that chapter, move on.
40:17And I have not and will not say anything about you purposely, slander you or anything like that.
40:24And I would just like that same in return.
40:28I think the kids all recognize that they had a really fun childhood growing up, you know.
40:36Yeah.
40:36It was a really good time.
40:38Yeah.
40:38It was really good.
40:40You can overcome negativity in the long run.
40:42Yeah.
40:42And come out on top.
40:44I think a lot of that was driven by Olivia.
40:47Yeah.
40:48Well, it was good having this last talk with you.
40:52I will be in touch.
40:54Did you get me a glass or a bottle?
40:56Yeah, there's a bottle there for you.
40:58Okay.
41:01I can't not talk about your family if I want to talk about my life.
41:05Very well.
41:09Do what you want.
41:10I've asked you.
41:11That's all I can do.
41:12Thanks.
41:13Have a nice life.
41:21Have a nice life.
41:23You don't have to be friends with all your exes.
41:25You don't have to be friends with the people you were married to.
41:27Sometimes it works that way.
41:28Sometimes it doesn't.
41:29But that always depends on both people.
41:33And in this case, there's absolutely no way her and I will ever be friends.
41:40I was told you have the rest of a bottle for me.
41:43That's the most Ethan Plath thing he could do.
41:48Show up two hours late.
41:49Say, I have two things to tell you.
41:51A.
41:51B.
41:53Have a nice life.
41:54Walk off.
41:56Yeah.
41:58So he didn't actually buy me a bottle.
42:02My relationship with Olivia, you know, I look back on it now and I was like, dang, we should have never been together.
42:08You know, it never should have gone that far.
42:10But because it did and because I loved her and eventually ended, it ended up teaching me more than I probably would have ever learned anywhere else.
42:18Honestly, it's made me a better man.
42:23Life is a process.
42:24You're never done.
42:26You know, I'm still learning and I hope I continue to for the rest of my days.
42:40You know.
42:41We'll be looking for you.
42:45You know.
42:46You know.
42:47You know.
42:51You know.
42:52You know.
42:55You know.
42:57So.
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