The Graham Norton Show Season 32 Episode 1

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Transcript

00:00MUSIC

00:24Hello!

00:25Thank you very much!

00:26Hello!

00:27Good evening, everybody!

00:29Yes, you are very welcome to the show.

00:32Yeah, like pumpkin spice-a-lottie, we're back for the autumn.

00:35And we've got a good one for you.

00:37Yes, later we'll have music right over there

00:40from Jack Savaretti and Miles Kane.

00:42Yeah.

00:43They'll be performing a track from Jack's latest album.

00:46But first, on my sofa tonight,

00:48since his back-to-winning role as Morris Moss in the IT crowd,

00:52this actor, writer and director has continued to stare at the camera

00:55with his arms folded in the likes of Travel Man,

00:58The Crystal Maze, and as presenter of the BAFTAs.

01:01So good stuff.

01:02His latest book, The Unfinished Harold Hughes,

01:05has been described as Nabokov meets Spinal Tap.

01:08It's also very funny, like its author, Richard Ioetti!

01:12CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

01:14There he is!

01:16Hello, sir. Nice to see you.

01:18Have a seat, too!

01:22This Irish superstar has played opposite so many acting greats.

01:26Tom Cruise, Al Pacino, Nicole Kidman, and my personal favourite,

01:30Jenny the Donkey.

01:32And that was in the Banshees of Inish Aron,

01:34which last year won him a richly deserved first Oscar nomination.

01:38Now he's unrecognisable and brilliant as super villain-turned-crime boss

01:44the Penguin.

01:45Please welcome the great Colin Farrell!

01:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

01:50Oh, my God!

01:52Oh, my God!

01:53Oh, my God!

01:54Oh, my God!

01:55Oh, my God!

01:56Oh, my God!

01:57Oh, my God!

01:58Oh, my God!

01:59Oh, my God!

02:00Oh, my God!

02:01Oh, my God!

02:02Oh, my God!

02:03Christineハハ.

02:05파 nosso, вдch.

02:07Jimmy equivalent as part of the 80s Hollywood Bratpack,

02:08going on to become one of the biggest film stars in the world

02:09in hits like In Decent Proposal a few Good Men, GI Jane,

02:13and the iconic Ghost.

02:14Now, she is giving an extraordinary performance

02:17as Elizabeth Sparkle in the body horror comedy The Substance,

02:20which critics are saying is, I think they like it!

02:25It's a pleasure to welcome for the first time Demi Moore!

02:29And she's a pop superstar, an actor, a fashion icon, who's won 13 Grammys, two Golden Globes,

02:49a BAFTA, and an Oscar for Best Original Song in A Star Is Born.

02:54Now, she's striking up a bad romance as Harley Quinn in Joker Foliadour.

03:00It is a warm welcome back to the one and only Lady Gaga!

03:04Lady Gaga!

03:10So good! So nice to see you!

03:17I know!

03:19They're pleased. Sometimes there's buyer's remorse, but not tonight. They're happy. They're happy.

03:28So it's a welcome back to Richard, Colin and Lady Gaga, but a first-time welcome to Demi.

03:32Thank you! So happy to be here. I feel like I've finally made it.

03:36Yeah, right. This is it.

03:38Now, you have been travelling all over the world promoting the substance, but you haven't been alone.

03:45You've been upstaged at every turn.

03:48Yes, I have a significant other.

03:50Yes. I think we've got...

03:51A special significant other.

03:52We've got a picture. There.

03:54This is... What's...

03:55Is Peelaf?

03:56Wait till you meet it.

03:57It's Peelaf the little mouse.

04:00Peelaf the little mouse.

04:01Peelaf the little mouse.

04:02Yes.

04:03And is it a male mouse or a female mouse?

04:04It's a female.

04:05But here's the thing, so...

04:06I want a selfie with it.

04:07Yeah.

04:08Oh, and it is photogenic. Peelaf is very photogenic because has done a cover shoot.

04:12Yes.

04:13I knew that she had really moved into a whole new category when my publicist got a call

04:18just for Peelaf to be on the cover of Doge.

04:20Doge?

04:21Doge?

04:22Doge?

04:23Is there really a dog?

04:24For real.

04:25It's vogue for dogs.

04:26There it is.

04:27I got that part.

04:28Jesus, no!

04:29That's amazing.

04:30That's amazing.

04:31Have you got that framed in your house?

04:32You must.

04:33Not yet, but I plan to.

04:34And that's the size the dog actually is.

04:35No, but honestly, why did you leave her out in the snow?

04:45Peelaf isn't on set yet.

04:47No, but she is here.

04:48Shall we?

04:49Shall we?

04:50We ought to, oh yeah.

04:51Oh, jeez.

04:52Did we mic the dog?

04:53To hear her heartbeat?

04:54Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my!

04:57Oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my!

05:00Oh my, oh my, oh my!

05:03Hi!

05:04Hi!

05:05Hi!

05:06Hi!

05:07Hi!

05:08Oh, you're so good.

05:09Oh, oh.

05:10Oh, she's so weird.

05:11She's in here.

05:12This is, this is, oh.

05:13Do you have treats in your pockets?

05:14No?

05:15No, no.

05:16She's just an equal opportunity receiver.

05:18Now, does Peelaf understand this is television, so she ought to piss?

05:22Really?

05:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.

05:24And that would go viral for us.

05:25I don't want to touch Peelaf.

05:28I had a feel backstage.

05:29Yes, you did.

05:30You had a feel backstage.

05:31Yeah.

05:32Oh, I'm afraid I'm gonna hurt her.

05:33I know.

05:34She's so fragile.

05:35Oh my God, she's so little.

05:36Weird.

05:37She's a stealer.

05:38She's a seen stealer.

05:39Look at the tongue.

05:40The tongue is amazing.

05:43I'm right here.

05:44How old is Peelaf?

05:45She's so cute.

05:46Peelaf will be four in November.

05:48Okay.

05:49Wow.

05:50I don't mean this rudely, but looks older.

05:52She had one flaw, which is she didn't have a full set of teeth and she had to lose some,

05:58hence why the tongue does not stay in.

06:00Oh, no way.

06:01Right, okay.

06:02She's perfect.

06:03Oh my God.

06:04What if I ever get what I'm having the teeth pulled straight away?

06:07She's so cute.

06:08Should we let Peelaf relax?

06:09Yes, I don't want her to steal everything.

06:10So here we go.

06:11I'll take her back.

06:12Oh, there she goes.

06:13Peelaf, everybody.

06:14I love that I have this level of couch, but a very small dog.

06:27She's all over everything.

06:29Now, Rich and I, you were here tonight as an author.

06:32But you are also a director, a director of films.

06:35Have you worked with any of the people on the sofa?

06:39I have not...

06:40I have sent Colin a script.

06:42Which I had told you I was yet to...

06:44Yeah.

06:45No, I...

06:46No, the good thing is, because we were both on this, you had to read it.

06:49Totally.

06:50Is it a no yet?

06:51The gospel.

06:52Yes, you had to read because otherwise it could have been awkward and obviously...

06:54That's the gospel.

06:55I'm pretty handy.

06:56I said to him, I said...

06:57And it could have ended in some fisticuffs.

06:58Yes, I said to him.

06:59It would have been bad.

07:00And Marcus of Queensbury rules, of course.

07:03He's agreed to do it for no money, which is very nice.

07:06LAUGHTER

07:09That is Colin.

07:10Any time you want.

07:11I'm there.

07:12I will not take a penny.

07:14LAUGHTER

07:15Colin's words, not mine.

07:17LAUGHTER

07:18All right, we're going to start with Lady Gaga's new movie, Joker.

07:22Funny adieu.

07:23I know.

07:24It opens in cinemas on the 4th of October.

07:28And this is the sequel to Joker, starring Joaquin Phoenix.

07:31And you play Harley Quinn, but what version of Harley Quinn is this?

07:36What can you tell us about her?

07:37So, I play Lee Quinzel.

07:39That's my version of Harley Quinn.

07:41And, you know, this movie, this story, really centres around Arthur Fleck.

07:46If you saw the first film, you know him.

07:48And in the first film, Todd really slowed down to take a look at Arthur Fleck's life.

07:53Somebody that maybe would get pushed aside or passed by on the street.

07:57And you really got to see who he was and what made him Joker.

08:00So, in this film, he meets Lee, my character, and they fall in love.

08:05But she's, like, very different than the Harley Quinn that everybody has known before.

08:09I tried to root her in the reality of this film and create Arthur's Match.

08:15Who would be the person that he would love if he stopped for a moment to talk to her?

08:20What would be the storm inside of her that would make her catch his eye?

08:25So, that's my Lee.

08:27She's got a little bit of a hurricane inside her or, like, the ground is shaking all the time

08:32or a bomb might go off in her, you know?

08:34Elizabeth, we've got a clip.

08:35This is you as Harley visiting the Joker, played by Joaquin Phoenix, in the asylum.

08:40This is going to be good for us.

08:42Now I can be at your trial every day.

08:44I can see you every day until you get out.

08:50We're going to build a mountain.

08:52You're perfect.

08:57I want to see the real you.

09:22It's just us now.

09:23Woo!

09:24Woo!

09:25Woo!

09:26Woo!

09:27Woo!

09:28Woo!

09:29Woo!

09:30Woo!

09:31Woo!

09:38Woo!

09:40Here's the thing.

09:41That scene where you're putting the, you know, you're putting the mask on the Joker.

09:43And I heard you talking about this, that in ways you really relate to that idea of wearing a mask and how that can help you in your life.

09:51Well, I don't know if it'll help me.

09:54You know, yeah, I've always kind of had a relationship with dual identities through my music and creating characters on stage, which was maybe unconventional to some people.

10:05You know, playing an actor in a film makes a lot of sense.

10:07Yeah.

10:08But everybody wants to kind of see you be yourself on stage.

10:10And I am myself on stage.

10:11I'm just also something else.

10:14And so I was really interested in making this film because Arthur is this like kind of incredibly unique person who has this like affliction that he suffers with.

10:26And the way that people treat him where he lives in Gotham, Joker is kind of like a symptom of his conditions.

10:33And I just thought that that was a really beautiful way to tell the story of Joker.

10:38And I thought it was also beautiful for a love story who would be like the complex woman that would love him completely.

10:45Who would, to me, love Joker and love Arthur too.

10:48And Lady Gaga, as one would hope, music in Follywood.

10:52But am I right in thinking that when this goes out on Friday night, by the time that happens, there will be a new Lady Gaga record in the world?

11:00Yeah.

11:01So I was really inspired by my character Lee and all the music in the movie.

11:05So I decided to make my own album called Harlequin inspired by her.

11:09And it's all original productions that I did to basically like define her without defining her at all.

11:20There's a lot of jazz influence.

11:22And I take you through like so many different genres on the record.

11:26To me, Harley like cannot be pinned down.

11:28She's a woman that can't be defined.

11:30So I was sort of saying, you know, I'll be jazz when I want to be jazz.

11:33And I'll be funk when I want to be funk.

11:35And then I'll be soul.

11:36And then I'll be blues.

11:37And then I'll be church.

11:38And it's, I'll be whatever I want to be whenever I want to be it.

11:41Because I think women, you know, we want to feel that way sometimes.

11:43And the truth is we aren't any one thing.

11:50We're a lot of things.

11:51Yes.

11:52We are.

11:53And we can be all those things at the same time.

11:55Exactly.

11:56The album is called Harlequin.

11:57Yeah.

11:58And I think we've got the cover art there.

11:59Yeah.

12:00Woo!

12:01But also, I was lucky enough to hear the album.

12:04It is so, it's because it's not the soundtrack.

12:07It's such a joyful album.

12:10From what is...

12:11She's super happy.

12:12I mean...

12:13Over the moon.

12:14But it is a really...

12:16It's a joyous thing.

12:17Yeah, it's actually...

12:19I think it's great.

12:20A great record for, like, if you're having dinner with your friends

12:24and one of your crazy holiday parties.

12:26It's meant to be music to have fun to.

12:29But, yeah, it's not the soundtrack.

12:31It's a companion piece to the movie.

12:33And now, talking of singing, we saw you at the Paris Olympics.

12:37Yes, that was me.

12:38Yeah, that was you.

12:43I mean, you know, as a superstar, do you kind of think,

12:45really, in the rain, I'm doing this?

12:47Like, because it was properly raining.

12:48It was properly raining, but the most crazy thing was that

12:52they insisted that the staircase be carpeted for the performance,

12:55and it was raining, so it was wet carpet in my underwear.

12:59So, you know, if anyone wants to perform on TV in their underwear

13:04on a wet carpet.

13:05OK.

13:06But now, it was the Paris Olympics, but there was an extra ring.

13:11Oh!

13:12I see what you did, I see what you did.

13:13That was good.

13:14No, because you got engaged.

13:15I did.

13:16Did you get engaged at the Olympics?

13:17I actually...

13:18Yeah, that's the last night.

13:19That's the last night.

13:20That's the last night.

13:21We got engaged, actually, on April 1st.

13:23Actually, I thought he was joking.

13:34He was not.

13:36But, yeah, it was really nice, and then we went to Paris for the Olympics,

13:41and the Prime Minister actually had his people filming us while they were saying hello,

13:47and they caught me saying, oh, this is my fiancé, and I was trying to keep it hidden,

13:51but then, you know, they announced it to everyone.

13:54But that was kind of fun.

13:55I like that you get the full Team USA thing by going to the Olympics.

13:59It's good.

14:00It was great.

14:01The women were awesome.

14:02They were awesome.

14:06And very quickly, Lady Gaga, I must say, in Joke of Olly Deux, obviously,

14:10you're marvellous, Joaquin Phoenix, but we must mention some of the other cast,

14:14a close friend of Colin's, Brendan Gleeson.

14:16Oh, yeah.

14:17Yeah, he's in it as well.

14:18I loved working with Brendan.

14:19Me too.

14:20He's so sweet.

14:21Yeah, I love his bits.

14:22Really, really cool guy.

14:23And did you know him when this happened?

14:25Look at that!

14:27OK, you know, I was doing, like, you know, like, that sweet thing,

14:30when you see someone, you go, oh, hi, you know, and then that happened.

14:33Yeah.

14:35He saw you puckering up, and he went, OK.

14:38His eyes are wide open.

14:39He wants to remember this moment.

14:41He knows exactly what he was doing, cos his eyes were like that.

14:44To mention his right hand.

14:45Yeah.

14:46Oh, yes.

14:47It's just, like, pre-tango.

14:49Mindy, you found yourself in a similar clinch.

14:52Go on, then.

14:54Oh, my eyes are closed cos I'm in heaven.

14:57And then that's where I got Covid.

15:00He's a...

15:01He's really...

15:02Fact.

15:03No.

15:04Brendan the Superspreader.

15:06Yes.

15:07Hands on the back of the head.

15:08Hands on the back of the head.

15:09You're gonna get it, son.

15:11Yeah.

15:12I want it all in there, yeah.

15:14Now he's in Nando's as well.

15:16But it is a terrific cast of, just a brilliant movie.

15:20Joker Folio Deux is out on the 4th of October.

15:23Yeah.

15:24I mean, too.

15:25OK.

15:26I hope so.

15:27I hope so.

15:28I hope so.

15:31All right, we're moving on to Demi Moore's extraordinary new film,

15:35The Substance.

15:36It is out now.

15:38And if you haven't seen it, it has to be seen to be believed.

15:42But I highly recommend Don't See It Alone.

15:45I saw it alone.

15:46I know.

15:47But, you know, you had someone...

15:49I still enjoyed it.

15:50I still enjoyed it.

15:51OK.

15:52Yeah.

15:53It's just good to have someone with you to witness it,

15:54just so that you can go, oh, my God.

15:56It's just a bonkers film, a brilliantly bonkers film.

15:59How are you describing it to people?

16:01It's actually almost impossible to fully describe.

16:05And you don't want to give it all away, yeah.

16:07No, but the general kind of gist is, one, it's dealing with ageing.

16:12And, you know, I play a woman who is being fired from her own show,

16:16an actress who has a fitness show, because she's aging out.

16:20And in this kind of gets, you know, sees her face being ripped down

16:24from a poster of her campaign.

16:27So everything, she's at the lowest point of her life.

16:30And is offered a substance for a newer, better, younger her.

16:35But unbeknownst to her, that is not me that transforms,

16:39it's another entity that comes out of me.

16:42It's like a young clone.

16:43It's...we share consciousness.

16:45Can you get...where can I get it?

16:46Yeah.

16:47You're the problem.

16:49I've got some in the back.

16:51I'm happy to share.

16:53So that's like the long...it's very difficult to fully describe.

16:58But it is interesting.

16:59So you kind of think...we're used to this idea of a potion

17:01that can make you young again.

17:03But you...Elizabeth Sparkle, in her 50s, exists alongside

17:07the young Elizabeth Sparkle.

17:09Yes.

17:10Played by Margaret Qualley.

17:11Yes.

17:12Did you cast her?

17:13Were you responsible for casting her as the young you?

17:15No.

17:16I think our director, Coralie, was looking for a right match,

17:19but in fact not wanting us to look identical.

17:22So she chose a taller, blue-eyed version of me.

17:26Which I can say, I always wanted blue eyes.

17:28Oh, there you go.

17:29I wanted longer legs.

17:30Yeah.

17:31But, you know, what's interesting in the film,

17:33just to kind of give in more seriousness,

17:36is that, you know, that idea of the pursuit of perfection

17:40leading us down a road where we then only decay further away

17:45from being able to embrace the beauty of all that we are

17:48in the present moment.

17:49Yeah.

17:50And I suppose we ought to flag up that it is a proper full-on

17:53body horror.

17:54I mean, there is blood.

17:56Yes.

17:57Blood.

17:58There's about 30 gallons.

18:00Not exaggerating.

18:01No, no, for real.

18:02There is a lot of blood in this film.

18:03For real, 30 gallons.

18:04Where did they keep the blood on set?

18:06It was in a fire.

18:07The obvious question.

18:09She used it with a fire hose.

18:12Really?

18:13Yes.

18:14Aren't you glad I asked?

18:15Yes.

18:16You haven't gotten to the scene yet.

18:17You haven't gotten to the scene.

18:18But, yeah, I think it's dealing with some really interesting

18:22subject matter.

18:23Yeah.

18:24What I can sum it up is it's kind of like the picture of

18:27Dorian Gray meets Death Becomes Her and a Jane Fonda workout.

18:31I mean, that is the movie.

18:33That is the movie.

18:34And your performance is so intense and visceral.

18:38We've got a clip here.

18:39Set it up for us.

18:40I think you're going on a date.

18:43I'm just getting ready for a regular date.

18:46So this is a moment where she has, like, an offer to ultimately allow her to almost escape

18:56the self-imposed prison of her own isolation.

19:01And she's been asked out.

19:03And it's a moment of true compare and despair where, you know, which we've all had.

19:09Where you go, you're looking, let me just try to fix this.

19:11No, let me change that.

19:13And the more we try to make it better, we just make it worse.

19:16Here it is.

19:43Wow.

19:46So intense.

19:48Well, I love both of our sequences.

19:52It's all about lipstick tonight.

19:54Oh, yeah.

19:55It's all about lipstick.

19:56You must be so proud of this movie.

19:58I think I'm very, I'm really moved by the fact that it actually is, has the potential

20:03of laying a few pavers down for a cultural shift.

20:07I don't think any one thing creates that shift, but I think the way in which we look at ourselves,

20:12the way in which we hold ourselves, it's important to find the love and the value and appreciation

20:18for who we are as we are in whatever moment we're in.

20:22And I hope that that this can kind of help move that needle.

20:26I think it's really interesting.

20:27That idea of, you know, body image and being vulnerable, it kind of goes back to that incredible,

20:33iconic moment when you were on the cover of Vanity Fair.

20:36Were you seven months?

20:37Seven months pregnant?

20:38Yes, seven and a half months pregnant.

20:40Wow.

20:41I mean, that has become such a kind of, it was a real moment.

20:44I mean, the fuss at the time.

20:45Big iconic moment.

20:46Yeah.

20:47And was this your idea?

20:48Well, this wasn't actually, we were shooting this at the end of the shoot just for me.

20:53It wasn't for the magazine.

20:54And I said at that moment, wow, wouldn't it be great if they, you know, could use this

20:59for the cover?

21:00And then two weeks later, Annie Leibovitz called and said, hey, what do you think?

21:04And I was like, amazing.

21:06I mean, I didn't know it would have such an impact.

21:09And it's been so replicated.

21:11I mean, the thing is, you know, it's, it's not like I was the first person, but it's

21:16the idea that we've lived in times where once you were that big pregnant, you weren't

21:21supposed to remind anybody that you'd ever had sex.

21:24Like literally.

21:25You reminded Oprah.

21:26I did.

21:27Yes.

21:28And who's in there?

21:29Is that Scout in there?

21:30That's Scout.

21:31And how old was Scout when Scout figured out, oh, I'm on the cover of Vanity Fair?

21:34Oh, they saw it right away.

21:35They loved it.

21:36It's part of like their, I mean, the reason I did it was for them, not even for me.

21:40Yeah.

21:41It's for each of them.

21:42I did it.

21:43I did it with Annie, with all three of my children.

21:45And I heard you talking about reading the script for The Substance.

21:49And it said it reminded you of reading the script for Ghost.

21:53Yeah, because there's something about, you know, when I read The Substance, I thought,

21:58wow, this could be really amazing.

22:01Or it could be a fucking disaster.

22:03And so, of course, I had to say yes.

22:06And I feel like Ghost was very similar.

22:08It's like, okay, we're going to do a comedy, a thriller, and a romance.

22:11Okay.

22:12But I think when we push ourselves out of our comfort zone, when we do things that make

22:16us a little afraid, it always makes us a little better.

22:19Even if it fails.

22:20And wasn't there a moment when, like, the reviews come out for Ghost, you kind of thought,

22:24uh-oh, it's not going well?

22:25The reviews were disastrous.

22:27Yeah.

22:28For Ghost.

22:29And then, people loved it.

22:30Yeah.

22:31That makes no sense.

22:32They were awful.

22:33They were awful.

22:34No sense.

22:35They were awful.

22:36Because it'll survive decades, it'll keep going.

22:38Forever.

22:39But it was, they were awful.

22:40And I thought, wow, I can't trust myself, because I actually thought I saw something

22:43that was good.

22:44And I love that you are a proper collector.

22:46You've kept the pottery you made.

22:48Okay.

22:49Let's not, let's not, let's not go wild.

22:50My piece of pottery looks like a kindergartner.

22:53I mean, literally.

22:54My pots are pitiful.

22:56But I do...

22:57Well, he kept coming up behind you, so...

22:59I mean, yeah, he's very pitiful.

23:01Yes, very true.

23:02You've got to concentrate.

23:04Patrick crazy hugging you.

23:05Yes, you're right.

23:06That's making difficult.

23:07It reduces the quality of the work.

23:09That wasn't your fault.

23:11Good point.

23:13I appreciate that.

23:14Yeah.

23:15Do you have a display in your house?

23:16I have them tucked away.

23:17Okay.

23:18Do you always save things from movies?

23:20Like, did you keep anything from The Substance?

23:21I do.

23:22I have what, when people see the film, you'll see the drug that we're given is this, you

23:27know, kind of fluorescent green-yellow substance, and it says the activator on it.

23:33And I have one of those.

23:34Fantastic.

23:35Well, listen, you, it's terrific.

23:36I hope people flock to the cinema to see it.

23:38The Substance.

23:39It's out in cinemas now.

23:40It's so cool.

23:41It's so cool.

23:42Okay.

23:43We're moving on.

23:44Colin Farrell.

23:45Oh, sorry.

23:46You're still talking.

23:47No, no.

23:48We're still just talking.

23:49Okay.

23:50Okay.

23:51Right.

23:52Colin Farrell is The Penguin.

23:53Critically claimed, already a huge viewing hit.

23:55The first episode is already out there, and new episodes drop on Monday on Sky and Now.

24:01Now, we first saw you as The Penguin in the movie.

24:04Yeah.

24:05The Robert Pattinson movie.

24:06So, it begins, is it a week after the end of the first movie?

24:09Yes.

24:10At the end of the first film, the Batman film, the Riddler exploded the city walls that keeps

24:14the water back, and the place is flooded.

24:17And it's about a week after that, Carmine Falcone has been shot, who was played by John

24:21Turturro, and he was kind of the main criminal underlord in Gotham.

24:26So, there's a power vacuum that people are struggling to fill, and Oz, who I play at The

24:30Penguin, is someone who always has felt less than and felt outside of the experience that

24:34he felt he should be living in.

24:36He's somewhat crippled.

24:37He's got a club foot, a pretty severe club foot on his right foot.

24:41A lot of tragedy in his background, which the show, because it has eight hours, is allowed

24:45to get into.

24:46And it's his rise, his ascension to power through greed and avarice and brutality.

24:51No, I've watched episode one.

24:52It's just phenomenal.

24:53Have you guys seen it yet?

24:54I have.

24:55It's incredible.

24:56Yeah, it really is.

24:57I mean, the whole world is incredible.

25:00What you went through to be able to transform is incredible.

25:03I mean...

25:04It's extraordinary.

25:05The makeup team, I have to shout out to a gentleman.

25:08I use the term loosely.

25:09By the name of Mike Marino, who created...

25:14Who created the...

25:15Take it where I can.

25:16Who created the whole thing.

25:17It was Mike's...

25:18Because I know that some people have said, why would they cast you and then just bury you

25:22and not have...

25:23Why wouldn't they get an actor that, you know, doing somebody out of a job?

25:26But the thing was...

25:27Do you think maybe it's because they want to know that it's somebody attractive under there?

25:31I mean, I'm just saying.

25:32What are you trying to say?

25:33What are you trying to say?

25:34I mean...

25:35I mean...

25:36I'm just saying.

25:37What are you trying to say?

25:38I mean...

25:39No, I honestly think it was just...

25:41It was Mike...

25:43It was...

25:44It was Mike Marino's genius as an artist.

25:46So it was kind of like the creation of the character was a collective of a load of people.

25:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.

25:50The people that designed the body.

25:51His...

25:52That was totally his imagination.

25:53Yeah.

25:54Was it really hard to make up every day?

25:56Did you ever panic or...?

25:57Panic?

25:58Like panic attack?

25:59Yeah, exactly.

26:00No, not in make up.

26:01Just as myself.

26:02But I did like...

26:05You know the way it's hard to say.

26:07It's hard because you know what hard life actually is.

26:09So when we do what we do, so...

26:11But I will say that by the end of it, I was a bit miserable.

26:14Yeah.

26:15Really?

26:16Yeah, it was kind of like even when I remember my sister being on the set and going back to the trailer and saying to Claudine, my sister,

26:19am I being a dick on the set?

26:21And she's like, no.

26:22And I said, okay, good.

26:23Because I just was angry.

26:24I was just angry by the end of it.

26:26And I remember looking up Jim Carrey.

26:27Oh.

26:28Yeah.

26:29I remember hearing a story that Jim Carrey struggled when he was doing...

26:33The Grinch.

26:34No.

26:35When he was doing...

26:36We all do.

26:37When he was doing The Grinch.

26:38Yeah.

26:39And that he struggled so hard that Ron Howard, the director of The Grinch, spent a day in the make-up just to see what it felt like.

26:44And I just...

26:45There should have been like a support group for people in prosthetics.

26:47Yeah.

26:48Because I would have been...

26:49He got guys who...

26:51Oh, he did.

26:52He got Navy SEALs or FBI guys.

26:54Who undergoes torture to counsel him about how to get through it.

26:59How to calm himself and how to work on his breath.

27:01So I never got to Jim Carrey's level.

27:03So many ways in life.

27:04Season two.

27:05So many ways in life.

27:06But I did struggle by the end of it just in my own noggin.

27:08And the material was really dark as well.

27:10I'd never done anything like that.

27:11Was that as dark as Banshees or...?

27:13Yeah, darker because there was love in Banshees.

27:16You know, Banshees is kind of love unanswered.

27:18You know, it's the pain of that.

27:19I love Banshees.

27:20And even though there's the mutilation.

27:21I love that movie.

27:22Thanks a million.

27:23Oddly, I do kind of like to meditate to that movie.

27:25To Banshees.

27:26Twisted, twisted puppy.

27:27Is that weird?

27:28I know.

27:29Do you really?

27:30I know.

27:31My man comes home and he's like, why?

27:32What scene?

27:33I think it's actually just the tone of the film.

27:39They're like, I just ended the scene.

27:41The scenery is beautiful.

27:42There's a whimsy to it and the music Carter Burwell.

27:45Yeah.

27:46And in terms of watching your performance in this.

27:48I mean, I was saying to you backstage, you do forget.

27:50In the first kind of 15 minutes, you keep going, wow, that's Colin Farrell.

27:53And then you kind of forget about it and you're just watching a drama.

27:56When we are looking at this man, so is any of that you?

28:01Well, that's me needing a bowel movement and realising that it takes...

28:04You can tell by the expression.

28:06And realising it takes two hours to get out of the bodysuit.

28:09Yeah.

28:10But do they, can I ask, do they do your hands as well?

28:12My hands were the only thing that was me.

28:14It was a full bodysuit.

28:15It was three hours of makeup in the morning and about 40 minutes to take it off.

28:19So we can see your eyes.

28:20How do you go to the bathroom?

28:22Just curious.

28:23I don't eat breakfast or lunch.

28:26I suppose the most civilised way to answer that.

28:28No, no, literally because...

28:29But for a piss, yeah, yeah, because I had to drink piles of water because I was sweating crazy.

28:33So I just, you know, you'd need to have your sat-nav to find yourself, you know.

28:37And on top of it all day.

28:39Yeah.

28:40There's a zip and a button and a pad and a flap and a...

28:43Yeah.

28:44But, um...

28:45I have very similar stuff as well.

28:46You know what I'm talking about.

28:48It's just for safety.

28:49Yes.

28:50And so the eyes are you.

28:54What about the...

28:55Are the teeth yours?

28:56The teeth, uh, all but one.

28:58I have a gold tooth that was just a clip on, yeah.

29:01It was so comprehensive, the whole thing.

29:03And to look at myself in the mirror, you know, in the trailer,

29:06and see that staring back at me was very powerful.

29:09So you're in all the prosthetics, you know, you're looking out of this thing.

29:13Yeah.

29:14Onto this dark world, onto this violence.

29:15That's what it felt like, looking out in a different way.

29:17Yeah.

29:18So what was that like when you went home then?

29:20It was weird.

29:21It was funny you say looking out because I was in a sauna one night in New York

29:24and, um, a public bathhouse and, uh...

29:27Public bathhouse?

29:28Yeah, ologist.

29:29Don't ask.

29:30Don't ask.

29:31Tell us more.

29:32It's called, it's called the bathhouse.

29:34It's a lovely place.

29:35And I was there, I was there one night and a fella looked at me and it was after...

29:38And then he did.

29:39It was after a long day on the penguin.

29:44And I looked back at him and I realised I was looking at him in the same way I felt my look during work.

29:51And I just, I just, when you do it so long it comes home with you.

29:54It should come home with you.

29:55If you love what you're doing, it's okay to bring your work home.

29:58You can't inflict it on those you love that you share a house with.

30:00Yeah.

30:01But it's okay for it to come home a little bit, I think.

30:02But anyway, I looked at the guy and I realised I was looking as Oz looks.

30:06And it felt like that and he just kind of went like that.

30:09And I don't know if he thought I wanted to fight him or...

30:13And I never asked.

30:15But there was something kind of very powerful about The Makeup Man that it did take,

30:19it did take a hold of the mood.

30:20If you gave yourself over to it and you talk about moments of purity in the work and stuff,

30:24you give yourself over to it and the writing's good.

30:27Yeah.

30:28You know, it takes over.

30:29It's lovely.

30:30Your imagination comes online and that's it.

30:32Well, for people who haven't seen it, let's have a little glimpse.

30:34This is you as Oz Cobb meeting Sofia Falcone, played by Christine Melotti.

30:42Melotti?

30:43I'm saying Melotti.

30:44That'll do.

30:45Yeah, here we go.

30:50Was that a yes or...?

30:52Sofia, please, join us.

30:54Oh, I didn't mean to interrupt.

30:56Ah, do you remember Carmine's daughter?

31:01Yeah.

31:02Sofia, I thought you were still at a...

31:06Arkham?

31:07Yeah.

31:08No.

31:09I've been rehabilitated.

31:11Yeah.

31:12No.

31:13I've been rehabilitated.

31:14It's so great.

31:15It's on another set.

31:16New York accent.

31:17It's so good.

31:18I was born in New York.

31:19You were from that part of the world.

31:20That is...

31:21You nailed it.

31:22You nailed it.

31:24That's one head of a sauna, I've got to say.

31:25That's it.

31:26I lost that much waves.

31:27It's a good thing I didn't wear the suit and I would have melted.

31:28And also, I love the link in the worlds because Arkham, where Sofia's been, is where Joker and you are.

31:44Yeah, totally.

31:45And it sounds like they exist.

31:46One big happy family.

31:47It's one big dysfunctional disaster.

31:50It sounds like they inhabit a similar space, the story.

31:53There's a lot of uncertainty in the lives and the psychology.

31:56I'm so excited to see your movie.

31:57I'm excited to see yours too.

31:58Yeah, big time.

31:59So excited.

32:00I'm a really big fan of your work and, I mean, everybody here.

32:03Sure, thank you.

32:04I mean, honestly.

32:05It's true.

32:06I mean it.

32:07Take it.

32:08Take it.

32:09I mean it.

32:10Just to remind you all, Colin Farrell continues his journey as the Penguin on Sky and Now each Monday.

32:19That's the takeaway here.

32:20That's the takeaway.

32:21I'm so glad you won.

32:22It's a book.

32:23It's a book.

32:24It's a book.

32:25It's a book.

32:26It's a book.

32:27It's a book.

32:28It's a book.

32:29It's a book.

32:30It's a book.

32:31It's a book.

32:32It's a book.

32:33It's a book.

32:34It's a book.

32:35It's a book.

32:36Now, now, bear with.

32:38So, this is called The Unfinished Harold Hughes.

32:41It's out on the 3rd of October.

32:43So, let's begin with who is Harold Hughes?

32:47Well, Harold Hughes is a hugely important playwright, British playwright, post-war.

32:53I stumbled across his work in a bookshop and I saw that he looked very much like me, so I was hugely interested.

33:00So, this is a painting of Harold Hughes?

33:01This is a painting.

33:02He looks quite like me.

33:03He does look quite like you.

33:04He looks a lot like me.

33:05It's uncanny.

33:06Yeah, thank you.

33:07And it's like a picture of Dorian Gray.

33:08Yes, separated at birth.

33:09It's very similar.

33:10And so, the book is sort of like a mock documentary about my journey to find Harold Hughes.

33:16Harold Hughes doesn't exist.

33:17I should make this clear.

33:18This is so complicated.

33:21There's a lot of tension.

33:24And so, the book is really about this kind of ridiculous character who stopped writing.

33:29And there's a mystery as to why he stopped writing and I'm trying to find out why he stopped writing.

33:34Okay, but now, so here's the thing.

33:36So, this is, so this is your, this is the journey of your documentary to solve the mystery of Harold Hughes.

33:41Yes, that's right.

33:42Who has written lots of screenplays, novels, poetries, all sorts of stuff.

33:47But those books exist.

33:48Yes.

33:49So, you've also written all of Harold Hughes screenplays.

33:53Yes.

33:54And you've written, this is the complete works of his plays, prose, pieces and poetry.

33:58And these are three novellas.

33:59And there's words in there.

34:00No, no, these are very few.

34:02With beautiful pictures of Harold Hughes on the back.

34:06Now, is this the script that you're wanting Colin to play you?

34:10No, that's a different script.

34:11That would be a whole different prosthetic.

34:12Stronger, more original.

34:14We've got the prosthetics.

34:15Okay.

34:16Don't worry, it's racially sensitive.

34:17Nice.

34:18It's fine.

34:19You won't get into trouble.

34:20Okay.

34:21I wrote all, I wrote everything that Harold Hughes wrote in order first.

34:26Um, because I had a lot of time on my hands.

34:29I think, to me, we would like to get a can opener and look in your brain.

34:32Yes.

34:33It is fascinating.

34:34So, you wrote all of this first?

34:35Yes.

34:36All of, I, and why?

34:37Because I needed to sort of find out who he was by wanting to get a can opener and look in your brain.

34:42Yes.

34:43I needed to sort of find out who he was by what he wrote.

34:46The why question does suggest, why did you bother?

34:49No!

34:50No!

34:51This is a key question.

34:53This is an important question.

34:54But I've always wanted to do a thing whereby you do a story about someone and then you do all of the things that they did.

35:02So you create a complete fictional world, kind of like a Salinger glass family world or like Spinal Tap.

35:08I, I go, I genuinely love their records.

35:11I love Spinal Tap records and I like the documentary and where sort of comic worlds can kind of go out and become bigger.

35:18So that was the idea.

35:19Is there anything, um, I'm sure so much of you is in all of this work, but like is there any like exact like, like anecdote or in the stories that's from your, your real life?

35:28Yes.

35:29In terms of how lots of people find the character frustrating, I've taken that from my life.

35:34So, yeah.

35:35But did you discover anything about yourself through this?

35:39Well, this is the thing, the book really is about whether you should keep writing.

35:44And in a way I've answered that question with those books.

35:48OK.

35:49So I, I'm announcing my retirement.

35:51Tonight!

35:52From writing, uh, and this is it.

35:55Now this is exciting because I believe you brought one of Harold's poems with you.

35:59Yes, Harold wrote a lot of very muscular and powerful poetry.

36:03As well as, you know, his very important films.

36:06And, uh, and I've, I have asked Colin if he would accompany, it's a two-hander.

36:11Yes.

36:12What's a two-hander poem?

36:13Will, will you do it?

36:14It's called The Breakdown, the poem.

36:16I would love to.

36:17OK, thank you.

36:18So now, I think you've each got a camera that you can look at.

36:20Yes, six.

36:21I'll be playing Colin.

36:22Oh, sorry, I actually, I have to get into character.

36:24Uh, because I, sorry.

36:26OK, sorry.

36:27Here we go.

36:28LAUGHTER

36:33It's going to take four and a half hours, mate.

36:36LAUGHTER

36:38Don't blow this.

36:39All right.

36:40OK, so I think, uh, Richard is six and Colin is three.

36:44I'll try, I'll try and do Harold Hughes's voice as well, so don't be alarmed.

36:47OK.

36:48OK.

36:49And what's it called again?

36:50It's called The Breakdown.

36:51The Breakdown.

36:52Can we say it together?

36:53Yes.

36:54The Breakdown.

36:55Here we go.

36:56Here we go.

36:57Here we go.

36:58Have you broken down?

36:59I have broken down.

37:01Where did the event take place?

37:03It took place near my home.

37:05How far from your home were you when the event took place?

37:08I don't know how to get to my home.

37:11Was the breakdown sudden or were there warnings?

37:14No one warns me.

37:16Are you with anyone or are you on your own?

37:19I am on my own.

37:20Was anyone else involved?

37:22No one else is involved.

37:24Would you like to stay where you are until we arrive?

37:27I would like to be home.

37:29We are quite busy.

37:31Are you OK to wait?

37:32I have time.

37:33But I'm not OK.

37:35Are you insured?

37:37I am not insured.

37:39And what kind of car is your car?

37:42I am not in a car.

37:44Well, perhaps it's better to stay in the car.

37:48I do not have a car.

37:51You do realise this is AA?

37:54I know who you are.

37:56We help people who have broken down.

37:59I have broken down.

38:02People who have broken down in their cars.

38:05And what about those who haven't?

38:08I am not.

38:09LAUGHTER

38:10APPLAUSE

38:11Beautiful.

38:13APPLAUSE

38:16Nice to get it.

38:17OK.

38:18Thanks for the work, man.

38:19I've come back out of character now.

38:21LAUGHTER

38:22Every day, Eddie, everybody!

38:25APPLAUSE

38:26OK, it is time for music.

38:28This man is one of our favorite singer-songwriters who's recently gone back to his roots with his first all-Italian album

38:35Miss Italia performing badda-bing badda-boom with Miles Cain. Please welcome Jack Savareti

38:50I'm at the border once

38:54Somewhere I've never even been

38:58A flag is burning in the night

39:01It's just another sign

39:03That I'm always on the run

39:05I'm always on the run

39:07Like an old-fashioned movie

39:12Where the ending's always you

39:16If tonight you wanna stay

39:20It's up to me to get away

39:22Just like I always do

39:24A-rada-binga-ba-da-boom

39:30I'm not solo

39:33I'm still Welcome

39:34I'm not solo

39:35I'm not solo

39:36Go ahead and turn the light off.

39:49There's nothing here for me to see.

39:53I've never been afraid of dying.

39:56But the sound of your crying, that terrifies me.

40:02Like an old-fashioned movie.

40:06Where the end is always you.

40:10If tonight you wanna stay, talk to me better get away.

40:15Just like I always do.

40:17A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

40:19A-quisto-ba-lo, yo-ba-lo-solo.

40:23A-fas-o-amo, a-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

40:27A-quisto-ba-lo, yo-ba-lo-solo.

40:30Ma se ti trovo a-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

40:37A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

40:40A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

40:43C'è chi parte, c'è chi torna, c'è chi non ritorna mai.

41:00A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:01A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:05A-fas-o-amo, a-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:10A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:13Ma se ti trovo a-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:18A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:22A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:26A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:31A-ba-da-bing-a-ba-da-boom.

41:35Whoa!

41:37Oh!

41:39Bada-bing! Bada-boom!

41:43Jabs have already! Miles came!

41:45And the rest of the band!

41:47So great!

41:49Jabs, come on over, do!

41:51Yes!

41:53Oh!

41:55Hey! Hey!

41:57I don't know what Italian people are.

41:59There you go, there you go!

42:01Jack Richard!

42:05There we go, man!

42:07All and me

42:09and Eddie Gaga. Thank you so much for that!

42:11Thank you so much for having me.

42:13No, not at all. That is a vain attempt

42:15to make me look less handsome, by the way.

42:19Yes, the context is bad for me

42:21at the moment.

42:23So, that is off

42:25Miss Italia, the new

42:27album, which is out now.

42:29And so, this is your first all

42:31Italian album. We should say

42:33that's the English version.

42:35Yeah, that's the English version, because we're too thick

42:37to hear the Italian.

42:39So, why an album all in Italian?

42:41To be honest, it was the first album

42:43I've ever had to do, rather than chose to do.

42:45My father's Italian, hence

42:47Savoretti the name. And he passed away

42:49two and a half years ago, and that was

42:51the first experience I ever had of grief.

42:53And the psychological and emotional element of it

42:55I was able to deal with, but the physical

42:57side of it shocked me. The pain,

42:59the feeling it in your bones and your skin.

43:01Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it got me to a point

43:03where it was so painful that I stopped feeling anything.

43:05I became rather numb.

43:07And the only thing that moved me was Italian music.

43:09It was when I would listen to Italian music,

43:11which has this thing, and it would make me feel like

43:13his presence was there. I would find my own

43:15sort of sense of feeling. It would move me

43:17to tears, to laughter, to singing at the top of my lungs.

43:19And I just remember thinking,

43:21I need a lot more of this in my life right now.

43:23So, I wrote an Italian album.

43:25A question from Miss Gaga.

43:27Is there one song that you think

43:29your dad would have loved the most off your album?

43:31Oh man, yes.

43:33There is, because there's only one song he heard.

43:35Which was, I never planned, like I said,

43:37on writing an Italian album. It wasn't a choice.

43:39It was like a necessity thing.

43:41But there was one song I wrote at like 3 o'clock in the morning.

43:43And I would usually phone him at 3 o'clock in the morning

43:45when I was staying up too late and just chat about life.

43:47And I said, I've written my first Italian song.

43:49He said it was okay.

43:51It sounds like an Italian father.

43:53It's the song that means the most.

43:55But it's the song that means the most.

43:57It's the first song on the album.

43:59And I love your life. Your life is so mad.

44:01Because I follow you on Instagram.

44:03Of course you do. We actually write to each other.

44:05So, you were just doing these huge shows in...

44:07Was it Greece you were just doing big shows?

44:09Greece, but we were blown away.

44:11We went to Romania. I mean, you played everywhere.

44:13But the audiences in Bucharest, we went to Bulgaria, Sofia.

44:15These are parts of Eastern Europe

44:17that are still not super open to a lot of live music.

44:19So, when you go, the energy, the feeling you get from a crowd...

44:23For someone like... We don't always play to big crowds like this.

44:25So, that already in itself is unique.

44:27But when you get that unique, genuine, like...

44:29They're not... They're there because they feel this.

44:31A release. Yeah, it's a release.

44:33Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

44:35And that was, for us, very much of a first-time experience.

44:37We're still riding that wave.

44:39Well, people in the UK get to have that experience.

44:41Is it next February?

44:43Yeah, but that's just kind of me alone.

44:45It's a whole different experience.

44:47Oh, oh.

44:49So stay home, everyone.

44:51Jack just wants to be by himself.

44:53I'll come.

44:55It's alright. I appreciate it.

44:57Who's in tonight? Just Jack.

44:59It'll be me alone with a lot of guests in different cities.

45:03Beautiful. That sounds cool, man.

45:05It'll be good, right? It'll be awesome.

45:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:08What I was saying was it'll be different.

45:09It'll be wonderful.

45:10And, listen, Jack, thank you so much for that beautiful performance.

45:12Good luck with the album and that tour.

45:14Jack Severini, everybody!

45:16Thank you so much.

45:18Gorgeous.

45:20I love you.

45:22OK, that is nearly it before we go.

45:24It's just time for the first visit of the new series

45:28to the big red chair.

45:30Hello. Hello.

45:31Hi.

45:32What's your name?

45:33Brett Dunbar.

45:34Brett Dunbar.

45:35Brett Dunbar.

45:36We have full name and address here.

45:39We just go with first names because people Google,

45:42you'll find them on Facebook and they're really abusive afterwards.

45:45So we'll just say Brett.

45:47Brett.

45:48Yeah, yeah.

45:49Now, I hear an accent.

45:50Where are you from?

45:51Originally from South Africa.

45:52OK.

45:53But you live here now?

45:54Yes, in Walton-on-Thames.

45:55OK, full address again.

45:57Brett wants to be found.

46:02LAUGHTER

46:03Live location.

46:05All right, Brett.

46:06What do you do?

46:07I'm a communications manager for a company.

46:08OK.

46:09Oh.

46:10All right, Brett.

46:11Off you go with your story.

46:12Right.

46:13So I was in South Africa with my best friend.

46:15We were at a lodge and we were students, no money, and we really only had money for beer and cigarettes.

46:19So we decided to go to a lodge and we were on this beautiful gorge and my friend Roxanne said,

46:24Oh, look, Brett, it's a monkey.

46:25And I looked and I said, no, Rox, that's a baboon.

46:27We need to go.

46:28So we slowly backed away and we were the only ones on this gorge, literally looking between death and this baboon.

46:35And he came up, sat on our table, he ate every single one of our cigarettes, except hers, because they were the cheap brand.

46:42And he came up, sat on our table, he ate every single one of our cigarettes, except hers, because they were the cheap brand.

46:49Then he put his muzzle into our beers, downed both of them, and then after a good time just urinated all over the table.

47:08I'm flipping, i'm flipping, i'm flipping.

47:10I want to go with it.

47:12And then, you know, that's what I'm doing.

47:14I want to go with it.

47:15But, you know, it's like a big deal that's what I said.

47:17Because it was like this.

47:18I wanted the baboon to do more.

47:22He's two years sober now, the baboon's in.

47:26If that had happened in Hyde Park, an amazing story.

47:30You're on safari in a lodge.

47:32Yeah, you're on a bike gorge in South Africa.

47:34Of course there's a baboon.

47:36OK, that really is all we've got time for.

47:38If you'd like to go in the red chair yourself and tell your story,

47:41you can contact us by our website at this address.

47:43Please say a huge thank you to all of my guests tonight,

47:46Michael Cavaretti and Miles Cain.

47:49Richie Baiotti.

47:52Colin Farrell.

47:55Demi Moore.

47:57And Lady Gaga.

48:00Join me next week with musical guest Kerry,

48:03top comedian Greg Davies, music icon Naina Cherry,

48:07Hollywood star Sebastian Stan,

48:09and the one and only Hugh Grant.

48:11I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye.

48:16And see you then.

48:17I welcome criminals from Jeff Ryan.

48:18We

48:28thank you for joining us, y'all.

48:29And very far, message page.

48:35And every day.

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