The Graham Norton Show Season 32 Episode 8

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00:00MUSIC

00:15Thank you very much!

00:17Thank you!

00:18Oh!

00:19Thank you!

00:20Hello!

00:21Hello!

00:22Hello!

00:23Good evening!

00:24Hi, everybody!

00:25Thank you!

00:27Thank you, thank you, thank you all.

00:28Very welcome to the show.

00:30Hey, it's Friday night, and like a pigeon returning to a chip,

00:34I'm back.

00:35And we've got a great line-up for you tonight.

00:37Hey, for example, look who's singing for us later.

00:39It's Benson Boone, everybody!

00:42I know!

00:43He'll be singing his hit single, Beautiful Things.

00:47But first, let's read the beautiful things on my sofa tonight.

00:50Hey, as the first blind contestant on Strictly Come Dancing,

00:53this comedian has been wowing audiences with his moves,

00:56earning his first 10s in last Saturday's Blackpool special.

00:59Here to talk about his latest stand-up tour,

01:01Yonks, and his new Christmas comedy, Bad Tidings,

01:05it's Chris McCausland!

01:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

01:09As the psychopathic Tommy Lee Royce, he brought pain and misery

01:22to the people of Happy Valley, but now he's bringing us joy.

01:26The story of the pioneering British trio

01:28behind the world's first test tube baby.

01:30Happy story.

01:31It's James Norton, everybody!

01:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

01:36Hello!

01:37How are you to see you?

01:39How are you to see you?

01:40How are you to see you?

01:43This Broadway star received a Tony, a Grammy and an Emmy

01:47for her performance in The Color Purple

01:50and was double Oscar nominated for her turn

01:52in the historical biopic Harriet.

01:54Now she's defying gravity as Elphaba,

01:57the Wicked Witch of the West

01:58in the film of adaptation of the hit musical Wicked.

02:01It is Cynthia Haribo!

02:04CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

02:06Oh, she shines, she glimmers, she is golden.

02:10Hello.

02:11Hello.

02:12Come in.

02:13Good job.

02:14CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

02:16And this Oscar-winning Aussie has starred in Moulin Rouge,

02:20The Hours, Eyes Wide Shut and the smash TV hit

02:24Big Little Lies, to name just a few.

02:26Now she's having a torrid affair with the younger man

02:28in Baby Girl.

02:30It's the fabulous Nicole Kidman!

02:33CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

02:35It's a very happy audience and a happy-looking sofa.

02:56Hello, all.

02:57Hi.

02:58Now, Nicole, obviously you were chatting backstage

03:00but who do you know on the sofa?

03:02Well, I know Cynthia.

03:03OK. Like, as in life?

03:05Yes.

03:06Oh, yeah.

03:07As in life?

03:08Yeah.

03:09Now I know James because I met him the other night

03:12at the GQ, Man of the Year.

03:14We did?

03:15Yeah.

03:16Were you the Man of the Year?

03:17I wasn't, no, you were Nicole.

03:19The Man of the Year?

03:20The Woman of the Year.

03:21I know, it's a little confusing.

03:23I was the Kid Man of the Year.

03:25OK.

03:26Got it.

03:27Yes.

03:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

03:32During the Connections on the Couch, we rarely have this.

03:35James and Cynthia, am I right, were you in the same year

03:38at drama school?

03:39Same year, same class.

03:41Wow!

03:42Yeah.

03:43The Year's split into three groups and we were in the same...

03:45So we spent three three-hour sessions a week for a year

03:49going through the sort of breakdown, build-up, sort of crude cycle.

03:52We went deep.

03:53Wow.

03:54We did.

03:55And we came out OK.

03:56Yeah.

03:57Was it obvious the two of you were going to make it?

04:01I don't know.

04:02No, no, no.

04:03Cynthia, are you surprised James is on the couch?

04:07Not at all.

04:08Not at all.

04:09It's so crazy, actually, because when I first got there,

04:11James was not there, he was away doing a play.

04:13I was.

04:14He was, yeah.

04:15Are you allowed to do that in drama school?

04:16No.

04:17No, I don't know how I could have wangled it, but, yeah, I managed...

04:19Well, I tried to wangle going away to do, like, a backing vocal thing

04:24and I was told no.

04:26So I started on time.

04:28LAUGHTER

04:30Wow.

04:31Still holding it.

04:32LAUGHTER

04:33I don't understand, you're in drama school but they don't like

04:35you going to do the things that they're trying to use to do.

04:37LAUGHTER

04:38Rule number one of drama school, you will not be in any place.

04:41LAUGHTER

04:42There's nothing when you're singing.

04:44LAUGHTER

04:45What a week for...

04:47Well, actually, what a time for Cynthia Erivo.

04:50The big premiere for Wicked in London this week.

04:53Here you are.

04:54CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

04:56You and Ariana.

04:58I like that.

04:59I would say a well-meaning but slightly pointless man

05:04with an umbrella.

05:05LAUGHTER

05:06Well, he's a big sweet avocado.

05:09He's just keeping the carpet dry.

05:12Cargo's so sweet.

05:13But we needed to take the photos without the umbrellas,

05:15so we were like, hold the umbrellas apart,

05:17pull them back together when we start walking.

05:19It's fine, though.

05:20It looked like an amazing, amazing night.

05:22It was fun, yeah.

05:23Talking of amazing events, Chris, Strictly goes to Blackpool.

05:27I mean, it was so epic and you had a great night.

05:31Yeah, it was wonderful, to be honest.

05:33And, I mean, I'm surprised I'm still in this thing, really.

05:36LAUGHTER

05:37It's, well, week ten and going into it,

05:40I thought it could be a disaster, you know?

05:42And we are still in it.

05:44Got to go to Blackpool and dance on that.

05:46It's like the Wembley of ballroom dancing, isn't it?

05:48Yeah!

05:49And dance with some extra professional dancers,

05:52so there were eight of us on the stage, really,

05:55and doing an American smooth to a big band number, you know?

05:58So it was, it was perfect, really.

06:00Well, it wasn't perfect.

06:01We didn't get maximum points.

06:02Close, close!

06:04If any minute on the couch

06:06didn't see Chris in action on Saturday,

06:09feast rise on this.

06:10It is really amazing.

06:11Might as well jump!

06:13Jump!

06:14Might as well jump!

06:17Jump!

06:18Go ahead, jump!

06:21Jump!

06:22Jump!

06:23Jump!

06:24Jump!

06:29CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

06:31Phenomenal!

06:32Phenomenal!

06:33What they've put off there is, at the end,

06:38I celebrated like I'd scored the winning goal in the FA Cup.

06:42LAUGHTER

06:43Yeah!

06:44LAUGHTER

06:45And, er, what is the Nicole Kidman connection to Strictly?

06:49So, I'm paired with Diane Buswell, who is a red-headed Aussie,

06:53and, er...

06:54Woo!

06:55The Strictly...

06:56The Strictly, kind of, the fan base is immense.

06:59And when we've been going out to get a bit of food during training,

07:03we get stopped so much for photographs.

07:05Like, it's ridiculous.

07:06And I say to her, God, this is like going out with Nicole Kidman, this.

07:09LAUGHTER

07:10And so it got to the point where, for two months, I've been saying to her,

07:13come on, Nicole, let's go for a spaghetti bolognese.

07:15LAUGHTER

07:16And then I found out I was doing this with Nicole...

07:19LAUGHTER

07:20..and I said to Diane,

07:21it's only taken me two months

07:23and I have upgraded to the real Nicole Kidman!

07:25LAUGHTER

07:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

07:28APPLAUSE

07:30I really like spaghetti bolognese.

07:32What I would like to ask you is,

07:34would you like to go for a spaghetti bolognese?

07:36LAUGHTER

07:37A spag ball.

07:39Very good.

07:40Right, we're kicking off tonight with Nicole Kidman's new film.

07:43It's called Baby Girl

07:45and it's going to be in cinemas from the 10th of January.

07:48Before we talk about it, here's a taste of what to expect.

07:52Who decided to make me a part of that mental programme?

07:55You have seven minutes.

07:57So, how did it start?

07:59I see myself as a...

08:00Power-hungry personality.

08:01You think that's what I am?

08:02I think you like to be told what to do.

08:04Sorry, I didn't ring to...

08:08That was incredibly inappropriate.

08:12Your behaviour is unacceptable.

08:15Is it?

08:25If we're gonna do this,

08:26we need to set some rules that you and I both agree on.

08:29Did you order this?

08:31Starting with...

08:34I tell you what to do when you do it.

08:39And if I don't...

08:40Get on your knees.

08:41No!

08:42What?

08:43Get on your knees now.

08:44I'm...

08:46Is that what you want?

08:47Ooh!

08:48Oh!

08:49Oh!

08:50Oh!

08:51Oh!

08:52Oh!

08:53Oh!

08:58I just want to...

08:59Chris, do you get a sense of what the film is about from that?

09:02It sounds a bit steamy, Graham.

09:05I was feeling the steam.

09:07It is so good.

09:10You are amazing in it.

09:11You play a senior executive in a tech firm,

09:13and then your whole life is kind of...

09:14CEO.

09:16A CEO?

09:17A CEO?

09:18Yeah.

09:19CEO?

09:20In a tech firm.

09:21And then your life is disrupted by this young intern.

09:24So, tell us about your character and how he interacts with your life.

09:28Well, he's...

09:29He comes in wanting to work for me, and I end up working for him.

09:37Sorry!

09:39It all gets sort of this power struggle and the weird things that go...

09:44But it's actually...

09:45The thing that attracted me to the film was that it's in the voice of the female.

09:50So, a lot of times these films like Basic Instinct and the films that we've seen previously in the 90s,

09:56they've come from, and that's what this is loosely based in that genre,

10:00of that erotic sex thriller, that it's been turned...

10:05Loving it over here.

10:07One line!

10:08Erotic sex thriller.

10:09She's like,

10:11Well, I don't know.

10:12I don't know.

10:13I'm doing up my button and getting uncomfortable.

10:15But it's sort of twisted.

10:18It's told through the lens of a woman director, and she's written it, and then...

10:23This is Helena Ray.

10:24Primarily, yeah.

10:25Helena Ray, did she write it for you, or did the project get brought to you?

10:28How did it happen?

10:29There she is.

10:30See, look at me looking adoringly at her.

10:32She sort of wrote it thinking of me, and it was...

10:37But it was called Baby Girl, and as soon as I was told it was called Baby Girl, I was like,

10:42Oh, yeah.

10:43Can I...

10:44I want to be Baby Girl.

10:45But the young actor in it, Harris Dickinson, is British, right?

10:50Yeah, British.

10:51He's British.

10:52And they've got a power dynamic between the couple.

10:54Yeah.

10:55It seems...

10:56Is that kind of mirrored on set?

10:57Because, you know, you are Nicole Kidman.

10:58You, you know, Oscar winner, and he's a younger actor.

11:01Did you have to give him permission?

11:02He's...

11:03He's a giant of an actor.

11:04So, he came in, um...

11:06Yeah, we basically had to go into agreement where you go,

11:09OK, we're in this together.

11:10We really trust Helena, because when you're doing this sort of material,

11:14you've got to feel safe with the director.

11:16And we also had Antonia Banderas, who's fantastic.

11:19He plays my husband.

11:21Loving it over there.

11:22You've really sold this film, Nicole.

11:25So, we have these fantastic men, but it's primarily the woman's story.

11:30Yeah.

11:31Which is what's unusual when you're dealing with this sort of...

11:34this sort of film.

11:35And it struck me that, you know, often, I think, if an actor gets the,

11:39you know, the point in their career that you've got to, and that sort of stature,

11:43you're in a position to go, I'm not doing that.

11:45But you're embracing it.

11:47Was that just because it was a female director,

11:49or was there anything else at play?

11:51Um, the script.

11:52I loved the script.

11:53I love supporting, you know, women in this...

11:57in their capacity now as writers and directors,

12:00and really trying to balance that in the industry.

12:04And...

12:05APPLAUSE

12:07And it was just good.

12:09It was really, really good.

12:11And, um, and kind of exciting and bold,

12:14and I'm always looking to push out of my comfort zone.

12:16Yeah.

12:17That was all...

12:18Harris made a speech last night, um, in Nicole's Honour,

12:20and you set a target to work with a female director every 18 months,

12:24and now you've done it...

12:25You've worked with, like, how many? 15 in...

12:2615 in the last seven years.

12:28I know.

12:29I know.

12:30I know.

12:31I know.

12:32I know.

12:33I know.

12:34So...

12:35It's crazy, relationships are always complicated.

12:37It doesn't matter who you are.

12:38Yeah.

12:39But, Chris, of course, you're happily married.

12:41Well, me and my wife, we...

12:43We, um...

12:44We've been together for donkeys.

12:46And, um...

12:47She's, um...

12:49She's Brazilian.

12:50I'm, like, from Liverpool.

12:52And, um...

12:54There's a whole lot of differences between your hot-blooded Brazilian,

12:57like, Latin woman and your pasty white scouser.

13:00LAUGHTER

13:01And she's, like, a cauldron of emotions that just fills the house.

13:05My emotions are buried under a car park somewhere.

13:08LAUGHTER

13:09And we...

13:10We...

13:11The heating is going to be the death of us,

13:13cos she wants it 38 degrees at all times.

13:16Yeah.

13:17It's so hot in our house, it's impossible to eat a magnum sometimes.

13:21LAUGHTER

13:23APPLAUSE

13:25So...

13:26Too hot.

13:28Too hot.

13:29I love it!

13:30APPLAUSE

13:31I must mention, you've got another film.

13:33Uh, this is out today on Netflix.

13:36It's an animated film called Spellbound.

13:38And now, you are one of these people.

13:40I've got pink hair.

13:42Oh, you're this one.

13:43I'm so pretty.

13:44LAUGHTER

13:45Beautiful eyes.

13:47Beautiful eyes.

13:48Yeah, it's a cute little film.

13:50And it's fun, actually.

13:51It's for kids, so...

13:52Good.

13:53Yes.

13:54LAUGHTER

13:55I'm covering both sides of it.

13:57Yeah, you're...

13:58The demographic is covered.

13:59Yeah.

14:00Everyone gets something.

14:01Well, good luck with Spellbound.

14:03And of course, Baby Girl, which comes out in January.

14:06OK.

14:07CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

14:09Let's move on to Cynthia Erivo, who brings us...

14:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

14:20LAUGHTER

14:21Much anticipated, much anticipated film adaptation of Wicked.

14:26It's in cinemas now, and people are loving it so far.

14:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

14:31You've been teasing it and talking about it for so long.

14:35It must be such a relief to have it out and everyone loving it.

14:38Truly.

14:39Basically, we cast almost three years now, three years ago,

14:42and so we then filmed it 2022 into 2023, finished it top of this year.

14:47So it's been ours for a very long time, and now we get to talk about it,

14:50and now it's out.

14:51So we're very, very happy.

14:52CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

14:53Obviously, a lot of people know that Wicked is kind of Wizard of Oz adjacent.

14:59That's right.

15:00But if people don't know...

15:01It's like the origin story of how the Wicked Witch of the West

15:04became the Wicked Witch of the West.

15:06And also, it sort of tells the story of how Galinda the Good Witch

15:09and Elphaba the Wicked Witch of the West were friends before

15:13and how their relationships happened, yeah.

15:15It's Wonka, but for us...

15:17LAUGHTER

15:18Yes.

15:19It's an origin.

15:20Yeah.

15:21But yes.

15:22Yeah.

15:23Wonka, but...

15:24Well, maybe not.

15:25She's not buying this at all.

15:27LAUGHTER

15:28So, Wonka was the origin story of Willy Wonka.

15:32Yeah.

15:33Oh, I see.

15:34That's in the movie Wonka.

15:35So this...

15:36It's Wicked.

15:37Yeah.

15:38Which, I will say, has been around for 20 years,

15:40so this came before Wonka.

15:42Yes.

15:43I'm just saying.

15:44I'm just saying.

15:45APPLAUSE

15:46It's actually Wicked came first and then Wonka was created.

15:50And, obviously, you know, the chemistry between yourself

15:52and Ariana Grande on the screen, but also in life is palpable,

15:55and you obviously got it really well.

15:56But is it true that she wasn't part of that screen test?

15:58No, she wasn't.

15:59You didn't do a chemistry read nothing?

16:00At all.

16:01We got together when we knew we were doing this.

16:03So once we found out that we'd been cast, that's when we met.

16:05Other than that, we'd never met before.

16:07Yeah.

16:08Wow!

16:09Yeah.

16:10It worked, yeah.

16:11And she came over to my house after we'd been cast

16:13and we sat for...

16:14She says five hours.

16:15I don't know how many hours it was.

16:16Yeah.

16:17We were sitting on my floor for.

16:19And then the first time we'd sang was at John Chu's house,

16:23our director.

16:24Stephen Schwartz was there.

16:25He was playing piano.

16:26We sang a song together and our voices worked together.

16:28That was the first time we realised, oh, my gosh.

16:30And, apparently, for research, you went back to the original

16:32Wicked Witch of the West.

16:33Yes.

16:34Yes, yes, yes.

16:35Because I wanted to figure out some of the aesthetics of her.

16:39We were figuring out what Elphaba wanted to look like

16:42or what I wanted her to look like.

16:43And I have a thing for nails.

16:45I know, they're amazing.

16:46They're amazing.

16:47They're all green as well.

16:48They're lovely.

16:49Little emerald green there.

16:51And when I went back to the original picture,

16:53a wonderful picture of Margaret Hamilton as the Wicked Witch,

16:56there it is.

16:57Oh, there she is.

16:58And I realised that she had nails.

17:00And I didn't know that before.

17:02And I was like, what?

17:03And I looked closer.

17:04I was like, well, I think we have to incorporate that into it.

17:07And that's sort of what happened.

17:08Because didn't she inspire you, Nicole, in some way?

17:11I always just wanted to play the Wicked Witch of the West.

17:14Now look.

17:15Because I love...

17:16I'm so sorry!

17:17I'm so sorry!

17:19LAUGHTER

17:20Yeah, because I just loved watching The Wizard of Oz.

17:24Yeah.

17:25And I found that the more interesting character.

17:27Well, I should say, the film, it is a feast for the centres.

17:30Here's a clip of you as Elphaba singing The Wizard and I.

17:34Yeah.

17:35Once I'm with The Wizard, my whole life will change.

17:42Because once you're with The Wizard, no one thinks you're strange.

17:48No father is not proud of you.

17:51No sister acts ashamed.

17:54And all of ours has to love you.

17:57When by The Wizard you're acclaimed.

18:00And this gift or this curse I have inside.

18:04Maybe at last I'll know why.

18:07As we work hand in hand, The Wizard and I.

18:13Oh.

18:14Beautiful.

18:16It's a magic.

18:17It's like magic.

18:18So much better than Wonka.

18:19I'm trying to get back in a good place.

18:20You're in love.

18:21You're in love.

18:22You never left my good work.

18:23You never left.

18:24And they make...

18:25They make movie musicals in different ways.

18:26But this is one of the movies where you were singing live.

18:40Yeah.

18:41Yeah, yeah.

18:42And then you're doing your stunts and everything.

18:44Yeah.

18:45You know, you're flying.

18:46Yeah.

18:47Singing live.

18:48Yeah.

18:49Which is nuts.

18:50I mean...

18:51I tell you what.

18:52Let's have a look at some of the stunts you were doing.

18:54OK.

18:55So this is Cynthia.

18:56There you are.

18:57Obviously this isn't in the film.

18:58Obviously.

18:59I might spoil the illusion.

19:02But...

19:03How are you singing?

19:04Because you're all just kind of strapped in and everything.

19:06Well, yeah.

19:07I had to learn about what stunts were going to be first.

19:09So we did a lot of stunt training first.

19:11Lots of flying.

19:12Lots of wire work.

19:13Lots of harness work.

19:14And then the closer we got, the more we honed what stunts we'd be doing.

19:18And then I had my vocal coach come in and table chair, help me figure out where to place the breath and the sound.

19:25Because usually if you're singing a big song, you kind of need the ground beneath you to make the big sound.

19:30Yeah.

19:31It's like you're singing Defiant Gravity but you actually need gravity and the ground to make a sound.

19:36But because we didn't have that, you sort of have to do a couple of things.

19:40One is find where the breath needs to be.

19:42And because we had...

19:43I have a corset on and a harness on.

19:45Oh.

19:46I can't use my diaphragm.

19:47So you have to place the breath up higher in the lungs and use your back as well to make the space to breathe.

19:55Yeah.

19:56And you also kind of have to trick your brain into thinking that you have ground underneath you.

19:59Yeah.

20:00psychological tricks and replacing the breath.

20:04Well, we've got the...

20:05This is the proof.

20:06This is...

20:07This is you singing live while doing the stunts.

20:09Yes.

20:10You see you in the harness.

20:11Here we go.

20:12So if you care to find me, love to the western sky.

20:17Has someone told me that everyone deserves a chance to fly?

20:24Has that ever happened in a movie before?

20:26Live singing while you go around like that?

20:28Yay!

20:29That's been fun.

20:30Amazing.

20:31It's...

20:32I would say, before next summer, it's going to be a ride in a theme park, isn't it?

20:43Surely.

20:44We should have thought so.

20:45Yeah.

20:46Definitely.

20:47Because, James, you've done wire work.

20:49Segway into every...

20:50Yeah.

20:51Yeah.

20:52You think that was impressive?

20:53I had forgotten about this.

20:58Your research was like, you had a wire moment and I had absolutely no memory of this.

21:03I clearly blotted it out because it wasn't very fun.

21:06Because I went shooting up and then they completely forgot about me.

21:09No.

21:10Well, because I was...

21:11It was my second TV show.

21:12It was Doctor Who.

21:13And I went...

21:14And it was really fun, the shooting up.

21:15But then, of course, I was sort of swinging there going...

21:17Guys, yeah.

21:18Singing wicked going, help!

21:19Yeah, I was forgotten.

21:20We've got...

21:21Again, we've got a lovely visual reminder.

21:24This is a very young James Norton in Doctor Who.

21:29And an alien comes for you, is it?

21:31I think so.

21:32It's a long time ago.

21:33Yeah, an alien.

21:34I think grabbed him by the head.

21:35Yeah.

21:36It's very exciting.

21:37Here we go.

21:38If we get out of here, we'll be bloody heroes.

21:41If we get out of here.

21:43The first people in the world to discover a genuine living alien.

21:47Alien.

21:57They don't even look at real legs.

21:58It could have been anybody.

21:59Yeah.

22:00Yeah.

22:01Do you see my breath work as well?

22:04And not the only one who's done harness work, Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge.

22:08You were...

22:09Yeah.

22:10You were really up there.

22:11Yeah.

22:12Yeah.

22:13And similarly, you were just sitting up there, didn't you?

22:16Mm-hmm.

22:17Yeah.

22:18But not like...

22:19I didn't have to do turns and somersaults.

22:20Yeah.

22:21But you got...

22:22Yes.

22:23And you got injured.

22:24Was this how you got injured on that film?

22:25No.

22:26I fell downstairs.

22:27Oh.

22:28Sorry, sorry I brought it up.

22:31Yeah, I wish I...

22:33I'll make up a story.

22:35Yes, I fell from the top of the trees.

22:38I've 50 feet.

22:39There you go.

22:40Yeah.

22:41Yeah.

22:42And now, listen, choreography.

22:43Chris McCallson.

22:44For most people, if you're trying to learn choreography,

22:47somebody shows it to you and you then replicate it.

22:50You do your...

22:51Mm-hmm.

22:52So how are they teaching you those dances on Strictly?

22:55Well, I mean, when we started doing it, people were asking us,

22:58how are you going to do it?

22:59And the answer was, we haven't got a clue.

23:01We're just going to have to wing it and see what happens.

23:03Because I'd never been taught how to dance and she'd never taught anyone

23:06to dance who couldn't see.

23:07And sometimes, if she tries to describe to me what needs to be done,

23:11sometimes I have to get on my hands and knees and feel their legs

23:14and their feet.

23:15And sometimes, if all that fails, she has to pick a part of me up

23:17and put it where she wants it.

23:19LAUGHTER

23:20And we're doing a Paso Doble this week and, I mean, I don't know

23:28if anyone knows what that is, but, like, I'm starting from scratch

23:32every Monday with no visual reference point to what it is,

23:37because I'm not watching everybody else do the dances during the week.

23:39Yeah.

23:40And this one is the most bizarre of them all.

23:44She's telling me the positions where you've got it.

23:46I'm like, are you sure you've learnt this properly?

23:48LAUGHTER

23:50And so we've...

23:51It took her two days to explain to me what it was,

23:53and we've had two days of explaining, two days of training,

23:56and I've been doing it all day today as well,

23:58so often when they do the air and make-up on these TV shows,

24:02it's to take the sheen off your face for the studio lights.

24:05I've just had to have a healthy face painted on me.

24:07LAUGHTER

24:09APPLAUSE

24:12And, Cynthia, it's just...

24:17It's called Wicked, it's not called Wicked part one,

24:19but it is Wicked part one.

24:20It is Wicked part one, yeah.

24:21But you've filmed part two already?

24:22Yes, we have, yeah.

24:23And so when will people have to wait to see that?

24:25Next year, same time, 21st of November, it'll be out.

24:28Oh, really, you know already? Yes.

24:30Oh, wow.

24:31But they put that out.

24:32Yeah, yeah.

24:33LAUGHTER

24:35I hope I'm not reading something I shouldn't be revealing.

24:38It's when?

24:39I think it's out.

24:41LAUGHTER

24:42Well, part one of Wicked, which is sensational and you're so good in it,

24:51APPLAUSE

24:52Right.

24:54We thank James Norton for bringing us joy.

24:59It is out now on Netflix and it's an amazing story.

25:03It's a story that we kind of vaguely remember, but it's a British kind of medical triumph.

25:09Tell us about these three people.

25:11It is.

25:12And that baby, Louise Brown, who is the first IVF baby.

25:15Yeah, it's about the story of the three pioneers who brought us IVF basically.

25:19Patrick Steptoe, played by Bill Knight.

25:22Jean Purdy, Thomas and Mackenzie.

25:24And I play Bob Edwards.

25:26And, yeah, they spent ten years fighting against the odds.

25:29The state, the church, all these conservative groups were kind of against them.

25:32And they won the race.

25:34There were other kind of IVF projects going on around the world in Australia and America,

25:39and good old Blighty sort of managed to get there first.

25:42Yeah.

25:43And also, I think you always imagine it's going to be got hundreds of people in big laboratories,

25:47but it really wasn't.

25:48No, it's tiny.

25:49I mean, it was, yeah, these two scientists, Patrick and Bob, and then the film is really important

25:54and wonderful because it's also righting a wrong that history has sort of forgotten Jean Purdy

26:00because she was the world's first embryologist.

26:02She was the lab technician and assistant and vital in the kind of, you know, the science.

26:08But she was a woman and therefore science hasn't honoured her as the way it should.

26:13And so part of the film is Bob and Patrick campaigning for her to be included on this plaque,

26:19which is outside the hospital where the discoveries were made.

26:21It's a story about good people.

26:23There's the plaque.

26:24These two...

26:25Yeah, she's on there.

26:26Yeah.

26:27There's a lot of love of the film.

26:33And yeah, it was a lovely film to shoot.

26:35I mean, I got to spend the summer with Bill Nye and Thomas Mackenzie.

26:37Well, listen, we've got a clip.

26:38This is the three of you.

26:40It's your character and Jean Purdy trying to recruit star surgeon Patrick Steptoe, played by Bill Nye.

26:48Oh, Mr. Steptoe, Bob Edwards.

26:51Yes?

26:52We spoke on the phone a few months ago.

26:54I can't be expected to remember every phone call, Mr. Edwards.

26:57Yes, if I could just have a minute, I'd be very interested to hear about your keyhole surgery.

27:01Sadly, I'm busy.

27:02Talking to these people who banished you to Oldham.

27:05They hate you.

27:06This is Jean Purdy.

27:07She'll be running our lab.

27:08Will she now?

27:09Good luck to you both.

27:10With your equipment, we'd be able to access a woman's ovaries in the least invasive way.

27:13Oldham is an extremely good hospital, and there wasn't an appointment in London available.

27:17Amazing how there were appointments for your contemporaries, who they did like.

27:21Have you studied me?

27:23No, I have.

27:24She's repeating it to you in an effort to get you to listen to me.

27:27A curious strategy, Jean.

27:31Oh, there you go.

27:32Yeah.

27:33Beautiful.

27:35And we...

27:37We even heard in that clip, there is some scientific gobbledygook, you know, medical chat.

27:43Is that hard to learn and then do?

27:46Yeah, and actually the director was very keen that we got very proficient at the science.

27:49So we had this amazing woman called Brooke Wilson, who was an embryologist from Bourne Hall,

27:53which was the first IVF clinic which the three of them set up.

27:56Oh, wow.

27:57And she came and she taught us and we went to town.

28:00I mean, Thomason and I are clearly horrible type-A geeks because we went really serious on the science

28:06and tried to get absolutely right.

28:07But it was important because, you know, again, it's like...

28:09Yeah.

28:10It's also a thrill to see good people, like, you know, they're doing...

28:13They're good at what they do.

28:14It's really wonderful to see good people doing something well, I guess.

28:17And had you worked with Bill Nye before?

28:18Because he is sort of a legend.

28:19He's a legend.

28:20No, I mean, I hadn't.

28:21And he is everything you hope he is.

28:22He's like, you know, all the rumours are true.

28:24That's an interesting photo.

28:26That guy behind me is my dad.

28:28On the left.

28:29That's my dad's arm, yeah.

28:30Oh, he must be thrilled.

28:31He's thrilled.

28:32He's punching the air right now.

28:33Genuinely.

28:34When he comes...

28:35When he comes on a desert day...

28:38He comes on a desert day every film I do.

28:43And he has actually featured more than the army.

28:46Yeah, yeah.

28:47But now he's on the Graham Norton show.

28:48So he'll be like, no.

28:49So his left hand is.

28:50There you go, guys.

28:51Yeah.

28:52Yeah.

28:53Yeah, no.

28:54Bill and Thomason are heavenly.

28:55We have a WhatsApp group called the Fallopians now.

28:56Which I...

28:57Maybe it's...

28:58I don't know if that's inappropriate.

28:59I did call them and say, am I allowed to talk about that?

29:00And...

29:01But you love a WhatsApp group.

29:02Do I?

29:03Well, you set up the little women one.

29:04I think I did.

29:05I think I maybe have mentioned that on this before.

29:06Oh, did you mention that here?

29:07Yeah.

29:08I like setting them up.

29:09And then I retreat.

29:10And I become...

29:11And then I become the voyeur.

29:12Or I don't really do or say anything.

29:13The...

29:14The...

29:15The...

29:16The...

29:17Our WhatsApp group is mostly Bill suggesting restaurants for us to have dinner.

29:28Because he...

29:29He eats every meal out.

29:30So we go and...

29:31Does he?

29:32Yeah.

29:33Wow.

29:34And he wears a suit every day.

29:35I mean, all the rumours are true.

29:36He is...

29:37Impressive.

29:38Wow.

29:39Because Nicole Kidman on The Perfect Couple, which is still on Netflix, you had a WhatsApp group,

29:42didn't you?

29:43No.

29:44That's not what I hear.

29:46Yes.

29:47Yes.

29:48Yes.

29:49No.

29:50Yeah.

29:51What?

29:52Oh, no.

29:53They did.

29:54They did.

29:55They...

29:56Nicole has left the group.

29:57Yeah.

29:58I just weighed in on the dance because they wanted us to do that dance.

30:03The big opening titles.

30:04Yes.

30:05Mob.

30:06And the consensus on the WhatsApp group was, no, we're not doing it.

30:10And the only person that wanted to do it was Liev.

30:13Now, Liev...

30:14Oh, there you are doing it.

30:15Oh, you see?

30:16You look like you're loving it.

30:17Come on.

30:18Come on.

30:19Come acting.

30:20I know.

30:21How did they...

30:22How did they convince or did they just go, all these people, no, it's happening?

30:24Um, it was the idea of the director and we all thought, this is very strange.

30:29Um, and so, and the idea of dancing in that dress on the beach was just slightly odd.

30:35But, um, but then we all got into it and then it sort of took off and helped make the show.

30:40Yeah.

30:41So, what do I know?

30:42Was it fun on the day, at least?

30:44No.

30:45LAUGHTER

30:46It was never fun.

30:48Was there a wicked WhatsApp group?

30:50Uh, no.

30:51Wow.

30:52Well, we saw each other every single day for like 14, 12 hours.

30:55Exactly.

30:56So they didn't really need to.

30:57And we weren't at home for very long so there wasn't much need to message.

31:00Yeah, you didn't miss anything.

31:01Yeah.

31:02We weren't missing anything except for sleep.

31:03Oh.

31:04Do you know what I mean?

31:05So, we were in the next day at four o'clock in the morning.

31:08So, you know.

31:09But how do you text with these?

31:11Oh, I didn't have these ones.

31:12These were slightly shorter.

31:13But texting nails.

31:14But how do you text now?

31:15Yeah.

31:16Oh, with my fingers.

31:17LAUGHTER

31:18OK.

31:19I mean, going back to...

31:20Not with an amazing.

31:21No, I'm amazed cos I've had some nails on and I can't do anything.

31:25Oh, you've got the long nails, have you?

31:27These are my nails.

31:28Oh, my goodness.

31:29Oh, get out of here.

31:30LAUGHTER

31:32APPLAUSE

31:33Oh, my goodness.

31:35APPLAUSE

31:36No, they're exquisite.

31:38Thank you very much.

31:39Well, I thought you were taking them off.

31:41I didn't...

31:42LAUGHTER

31:43You're just holding like...

31:44Oh, my goodness.

31:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:46They are amazing.

31:47Really amazing.

31:48The WhatsApp groups you have when you've got a kid are like another level.

31:51If you're ever in a parent's WhatsApp, nothing will drain your phone battery quicker.

31:55LAUGHTER

31:56Then somebody's saying, just to remind you, it's own clothes day on Thursday,

32:00and then there's 30 people.

32:02What would I do without you?

32:03Oh, you're the best.

32:04LAUGHTER

32:05Just one of you, I'm certain, and everyone else shut up.

32:08LAUGHTER

32:09APPLAUSE

32:10Spoken for the nation.

32:11The nation.

32:12APPLAUSE

32:13James, you are now continuing to work with children because your new show,

32:20it's coming up in January, Playing Nice.

32:23Yeah, I'm working with loads of kids.

32:24My business partner has coined my current casting bracket as Sad Dad.

32:28LAUGHTER

32:29Which is quite apt because I do seem to play a lot of Sad Dads.

32:32Yeah, so Playing Nice is the show coming out next year on ITV,

32:34which is the first TV show I've produced as well, which was a challenge.

32:38Yeah.

32:39James...

32:40APPLAUSE

32:41Oh, good.

32:42Wow.

32:43One of our old classes in it.

32:45That's so cool.

32:46Cynthia had no idea he was successful.

32:48LAUGHTER

32:49No, I know that.

32:50He's fine.

32:52He made it.

32:53LAUGHTER

32:54I love her.

32:55Both are Jameses.

32:56That's very good.

32:57Yeah, giving him a leg up.

32:58It's a mad story and it happens more than you think.

33:01It's about two families who find out that their three-year-old sons

33:04were accidentally swapped at birth.

33:05Wow.

33:06And that's what you find out at the beginning of the series

33:08and then it's this sort of psychological drama, thriller

33:11about how they navigate this very complicated, traumatic...

33:13Wow.

33:14We look forward to that.

33:15And, of course, just a reminder that Joy is available on Netflix

33:19right now.

33:20Very good.

33:21CHEERING

33:27Christmas.

33:28Christmas isn't too far away.

33:30And Chris McCausland brings us a festive treat.

33:33Bad tidings will be coming to Sky and Now this Christmas.

33:37And, Chris McCausland, you've made a movie.

33:40So, do the movie star thing and tell us who you play

33:43and what happens in the movie.

33:44We've made a Christmas film.

33:46It is a family Christmas comedy caper.

33:49And it's myself and Lee Mack are the two main characters.

33:53We play neighbours who live opposite each other.

33:56We don't get on.

33:57We wind each other up.

33:58I wind him up and Lee plays a character who's a bit neurotic.

34:01And then one thing leads to another.

34:03And we end up blowing the whole power for the street on Christmas Eve.

34:07And everybody has to leave.

34:08But what's happened is, myself and Lee's character,

34:12we have become joint heads of the neighbourhood watch,

34:14which winds him up because I can't watch.

34:16LAUGHTER

34:19And...

34:20LAUGHTER

34:23And, um...

34:25I run for the role just to wind him up, you see.

34:29Um, and I offer to stay behind and look after the street,

34:32as that's what any good co-coordinator would do.

34:35Uh-huh.

34:36And he has to stay behind as well.

34:37And a criminal family decide they can hit the whole empty street

34:40in one night.

34:41And there's just a neurotic man and a blind neurotic man.

34:44LAUGHTER

34:45I would urge you not to tell the whole story.

34:47LAUGHTER

34:48The other actors, the other actors are going,

34:51No, I think you should stop by now.

34:53LAUGHTER

34:54This is the first 15 minutes and then it kicks off.

34:57LAUGHTER

34:58Listen, we've got a clip.

34:59This is you as Scott.

35:01I've never made a movie before.

35:02You were thinking...

35:03You were thinking...

35:04You were thinking...

35:05You were thinking...

35:06Too much.

35:07Too much...

35:08Too much now.

35:09LAUGHTER

35:10Denzel Washington was on here once and I asked him

35:12the plot of the movie, he told the whole thing,

35:14right with the...

35:15There was a twist at the end that he even told that.

35:17LAUGHTER

35:18Well, if it's good enough for Denzel, it's good enough for me.

35:20LAUGHTER

35:21APPLAUSE

35:23LAUGHTER

35:24We've...

35:26We've got a clip.

35:27This is you as Scott.

35:29You're having some trouble with your decorations.

35:31Whoa!

35:32Calm down, Scott!

35:33You'll fall!

35:34Oh!

35:35I'm fine!

35:36Nothing to see here!

35:37I'm OK!

35:38Honest...

35:39Oh!

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36:26Oh!

36:27But I have also done some harness work

36:36I did sing a whole number while I was up there as well, but they've taken that out of the edit

36:42And Chris you're also on tour

36:44Yonks is the name of the why is it called yonks? It's called yonks

36:48I mean that I've been doing standard for over 20 years and obviously I've had a lot of breaks on the television over the last five

36:54Years or so and you know a lot of people they are only recently aware of me and especially through doing strictly and stuff like that

37:01People think you've come from nowhere really

37:05But I've been doing it for bloody yonks really

37:08Really they just need a name for it

37:13This is amazing though and it is kind of the power of strictly because you've added how many dates have you had to this to her now?

37:18I've got over 200 dates on sale at the minute

37:24It's amazing

37:26Yeah, so the tour will be going on the tour. I'll just talk till I'm in an empty room on my own

37:32But yeah, I love stand-up

37:33I've done it for over 20 years and I mean I love getting to do telly

37:37I love getting to make this film and do all this other stuff that stand-up

37:40Well, it's weird to stand-up opens the door to all these are the mad things that you you never ever would have got the chance to do

37:46But then all these other things make people aware of you to come and watch you do the stand-up and one feeds the other and it feeds back in

37:52And it's a beautiful beautiful little circle really and then but I'm looking forward to getting back out on the road and then and doing something

37:59I'm confident at seeing that. I've spent the last three months trying to dance

38:05There's only four more shows in strictly. Yeah, yeah, so good at the finals finals right there Chris. It's right there. Are you the favorite?

38:12I mean

38:14Yes

38:16I mean literally every dance we do I am five inches away from missing Diane completely and hitting a camera

38:32What is a good luck with the rest of strictly and the tour and of course bad tidings which is out this Christmas Chris because it everybody

38:39Okay, it is time for music listen to this with over one-and-a-half billion

38:51Streams this American singer-songwriters hit single beautiful things has topped the charts around the world since release earlier this year

39:00Performing it for us now, please welcome Benson Boone

39:09For a while there it was rough

39:16But lately I've been doing better

39:19Than the last four cold Decembers

39:23I recall

39:24And I see my family every month

39:29I found a girl my parents love

39:32So come and stay the night and I think I might have it all

39:34So come and stay the night and I think I might have it all

39:39And I thank God every day

39:42For the girl he sent my way

39:46But I know the things he gives me can take away

39:52Oh

39:54And I'll hold you every night

39:56And that's a feeling I only get used to

40:00But there's no man as terrified

40:04As the man who stands to lose you

40:10Oh, I hope I don't lose you

40:14Oh, I hope I don't lose you

40:18Mmm

40:20Please

40:21Stay

40:23I want you, I need you, oh God

40:26Don't

40:28Take

40:30This beautiful thing that I've got

40:33Please

40:35Stay

40:37I want you, I need you, oh God

40:40Don't

40:41Don't

40:42Take

40:43These beautiful things that i've got

40:47No

40:48Ooh

40:50Please

40:55Don't

40:57Take

40:58I found my mind, I'm feeling sane

41:02It's been a while, but I'm finding my faith

41:06If everything's good and it's great

41:08It's great, why do I sit and wait till it's gone?

41:13Oh, I tell you, I know I've got enough

41:17I've got peace and I've got love

41:20But I'm up at night thinking I just might lose it all

41:26Please stay

41:32I want you, I need you all done

41:36Don't take these beautiful things that I've got

41:42Oh, oh, oh, oh

41:46Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

41:56Please stay

42:01I want you, I need you all done

42:05I need these beautiful things that I've got

42:14Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh

42:23Thank you so much for that

42:36There you go, thank you so much for that, you know what when when you would stood there James is very kind to give me some audio commentary

42:58And you stood on the pit you did the front flip his audio commentary was there's a very sexy man stood on the piano at the moment

43:03And then he just went, how the fuck did he do that?

43:17Flipping has become a kind of signature thing. Yes. Yeah, how did it start?

43:22You know what my dad I'm very close to my parents my dad started doing flips when I was a little a little boy

43:29And I thought he was the coolest so when I was like three I would try them off my couch and it progressed and progressed to

43:38the front yard and then

43:40On stage. Yeah, yeah, but but like that flip although the free that was a tame one for you like you do them from great heights

43:47Yeah, I never do them in boots so that might have seemed a tame flip to you. No, it didn't seem to me

43:51No, it did not seem tame trust me. I was nervous

43:56Ever gone wrong? Not yet such wood. Not yet. Yeah, let's touch. I know I'm in it

44:03So it's a beautiful things beautiful things and the most streamed song in the UK released this year 1.5 billion streams

44:11Worldwide

44:18Fireworks and rollerblades which is out and now so you finished your world tour in London just now right last night. Yes

44:27Yeah, and we've been on the road for pretty much like this whole year, but really non-stop the last three months

44:33So it was like a kind of a bittersweet day

44:35But I know because you dream of this success and then the success comes but now you must be slightly dreaming of having some time off

44:42Yeah

44:46Which won't which won't doesn't happen won't happen. It won't not for a couple of years. Well that performance was extraordinary

44:54So thank you so much for coming in

44:56Thank you

45:06Just time for a visit to the big red chair. I wonder who's there. Hello. Hello. Hi, what's your name? My name's Lynn

45:12Hello Lynn and where are you from? I'm from Kent Kent lovely and what are you doing Kent Lynn?

45:17I'm a sales manager for a glove company glove company busy weather for you right now, isn't it? Yes

45:24The wonder you're here partying. Yeah champagne for Lynn

45:30All right off you go with the story so I took my son who was five or six years old to his swim lesson

45:36And we're sitting with a big crowd of parents at the end of the pool

45:39And I was chatting to the lady next to me talking about what we were doing that Saturday night and I said we're going to a restaurant with friends and

45:47While we were chatting our boys got out of the pool and I wrapped my son in a towel when we were talking and he interrupted and he said mommy

45:54No, you're not going to a restaurant

45:57You've got a games night tonight and I said oh no no that's in a few weeks time

46:01We've got family over for a games night carried on talking to the lady about the restaurant and he interrupted again and went no

46:08Mummy at which point everything went very quiet and he said you've definitely got a games night. Daddy said you're playing hide the sausage tonight

46:16You can walk! You can walk Lynn! That's a good story!

46:22Yeah!

46:24We did it! We did it!

46:25Yeah!

46:26We're solving it! We're solving it!

46:28We've got one more?

46:29Yes!

46:30One more! One more! One more! One more! One more!

46:33It's nearly Christmas! It's nearly Christmas! We'll have another one! Here we go!

46:36Hello!

46:37Hello! Hi! What's your name?

46:38Kate!

46:39Kate! Lovely! And where are you from Kate?

46:41I'm from Newcastle but I live in London

46:43Okay! What do you do in London?

46:45I'm a sales manager as well

46:46Oh! Not of gloves! Not of gloves!

46:48No!

46:49Is your product not doing so well at the moment?

46:53No but I don't know if my company would want me to tell my story

46:56Is it sex toys?

46:59And by the way! Immediately went from gloves to sex toys!

47:02He's such a good thing!

47:03I'm so sorry Kate! I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I... I...

47:06It's not!

47:07Yeah! No... Don't worry! Don't worry Kate!

47:08Yeah! Off you go with your story!

47:10Yeah!

47:11So it was a... a Friday afternoon, a very summery Friday afternoon

47:15and I was very excited to go out for dinner after work with my friends

47:18but first I had an hour-long 5pm company-wide work call that my CEO was hosting

47:24so I thought I would multitask, I would do come off...

47:28Not the meat! Not the story!

47:29No! No!

47:30I was joining the... I was joining in with the story, Nicole!

47:33I wasn't just heckling the poor woman!

47:35No! No! No! No!

47:38No! No! I mean it's not that interesting but eh...

47:41But still! I'm so sorry! I'm so sorry Kate! Off you go!

47:45So I thought I would multitask, I'd have the call on but my come off

47:49and I'd be doing my make-up and hair and then it was time to change my outfit

47:54so I stood up, walked over to the wardrobe, took all my clothes off

47:59and then I heard the tone of the CEO just slightly change

48:02when he was giving a financial report and I looked at my screen

48:05and I was on the bottom right-hand corner, camera on

48:08and I had given a free impromptu striptease to my whole company

48:14and the call was also recorded and then sent out to everyone

48:18Wow! I think you should own that company now!

48:21Wow! I think you should own that company now!

48:24Walk! Walk! Walk! Walk! Walk! Walk!

48:27Walk! Walk! Walk! Walk!

48:30There you go! Excellent! Well done!

48:32That was a good hit rate!

48:36You haven't been here before, Benson. That's very rare that two people walk.

48:39Very, very rare. OK.

48:41Right, that really is all we've got time for.

48:42If you don't have a go to that red chair yourself and tell your story,

48:44you can just contact us via our website at this very address.

48:48And please say a huge thank you to all of my guests.

48:50Benson Boone, everyone!

48:54Chris McCausland!

48:57James Norton!

49:01Cynthia Remo!

49:03And Nicole Kidman!

49:05Join me next week with music from Jalen Nagonda and another star line-up.

49:12Michael Fassbender, Keira Knightley, Josh Brolin and the one and only Cher.

49:16I'll see you then. Good night, everybody. Bye-bye!

49:18Bye-bye!

49:23For children in need, Paddy McGuinness embarks on a 300-mile cycle challenge across the UK.

49:29Watch The Ride of My Life, available now on BBC iPlayer.

49:32Two-player.

49:33Keep playing.

49:34And the one and a 200-year-old player we have a special player on this current country

49:36team.

49:37What?

49:38Cool, great!

49:39Thank you, bitch.

49:40Dad, I'm going to give you a big player.

49:41Two-player.

49:42Go.

49:43One-player.

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49:50One-player.

49:51Two-player.

49:52One-player.

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