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CTP (S3ESepSpecial8) Holy Profit: Where Scripture Meets Success
Fran Tabor shares insights from her book "Live Abundantly: 50 Business Lessons from the Bible," revealing how biblical wisdom offers practical guidance for business success beyond traditional advice. She explores how strong moral foundations correlate with long-term financial stability and business resilience.
• People with firm values tend to achieve better financial outcomes over their lifetime
• The Bible contains practical business wisdom drawn from 6,000 years of human interactions
• Faith builds the mental resilience needed to overcome business challenges and setbacks
• The story of Joseph demonstrates how perceived misfortunes can lead to greater opportunities
• Small businesses create stronger communities by keeping money circulating locally
• Business relationships in small communities are personal, creating natural accountability
• Money is like a shovel – a tool that creates abundance when used wisely
• Finding daily reasons for gratitude and laughter builds emotional resilience for business challenges
• Purpose-driven businesses that improve community life create more fulfillment for owners
Find Fran Tabor's book "Live Abundantly: 50 Business Lessons from the Bible" anywhere books are sold. Look up Fran Tabor plus Draft to Digital to find all her publications.
Fran Tabor shares insights from her book "Live Abundantly: 50 Business Lessons from the Bible," revealing how biblical wisdom offers practical guidance for business success beyond traditional advice. She explores how strong moral foundations correlate with long-term financial stability and business resilience.
• People with firm values tend to achieve better financial outcomes over their lifetime
• The Bible contains practical business wisdom drawn from 6,000 years of human interactions
• Faith builds the mental resilience needed to overcome business challenges and setbacks
• The story of Joseph demonstrates how perceived misfortunes can lead to greater opportunities
• Small businesses create stronger communities by keeping money circulating locally
• Business relationships in small communities are personal, creating natural accountability
• Money is like a shovel – a tool that creates abundance when used wisely
• Finding daily reasons for gratitude and laughter builds emotional resilience for business challenges
• Purpose-driven businesses that improve community life create more fulfillment for owners
Find Fran Tabor's book "Live Abundantly: 50 Business Lessons from the Bible" anywhere books are sold. Look up Fran Tabor plus Draft to Digital to find all her publications.
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00:00Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, a.k.a. CTP.
00:07I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12CTP is your no-must, no-fuss, just-me-you-and-occasional-guest-type podcast.
00:19I really appreciate you tuning in.
00:22As Graham Norton will say, let's get on with the show!
00:25So, Fran Tabor is here to talk about a book, Live Abundantly, 50 Business Lessons from the Bible.
00:39Being a Christian show, talking about the Bible in full context,
00:45I am absolutely loving this idea of what indeed does the Bible tell us about business.
00:53But before we get to that, let's do the usual, you know, cue the who.
00:58Who are you? Who, who, who, who? Right?
01:03I like to joke with my audience and my guests.
01:06Where were you born? Where were you raised?
01:10How much time did you spend in prison for murder and all that kind of stuff?
01:14Shh, secret.
01:16Uh-oh, I let the cat out of the bag, you know.
01:19Okay, I was born in Bonas Ferry, Idaho.
01:26Not that far west of here, and that lake in the background is Flathead Lake,
01:30a place I have fished, swam, boated often, and absolutely love.
01:36That tall tree is a ponderosa pine, native to this part of the country.
01:41I like that, Flathead, not Knucklehead Lake, right?
01:49My audience knows I can never pass on the idiotic, stupid humor.
01:56But I grew up a little bit of everywhere.
02:01My parents started quite a few different small businesses.
02:04At one point, my father worked for a warehouser company as a wholesaler,
02:09and they transferred them all kinds of different places.
02:14Each of my siblings was born in a different state.
02:18By the time I was 15, I had attended 13 schools in seven different states.
02:23Wow.
02:24That must have been an adventure.
02:28I thought it was.
02:29I thought it was fun.
02:30But think back to all the friends you have now from all those places, right?
02:37Right.
02:38And it also gave me the opportunity to meet people from a much wider,
02:43different variety of backgrounds than I ever would have if my parents had just
02:47stayed in Bonas Ferry, Idaho.
02:50Yeah.
02:50Whereas my dumb butt has been in Michigan pretty much my whole life.
02:56Through work and whatnot, I've been through half, I think, of all the 50 United States.
03:04And I've been to the Caribbean and South America and obviously into Canada just being
03:10across the river.
03:12And as I said, I used to vacation all the time, Sparrow Lake near Aurelia, Ontario, Canada
03:18all the time.
03:20But I've never been to Europe or anything.
03:23Have you been to Europe or anything like that?
03:26My brothers and my sister have?
03:30I haven't.
03:33It's, you should always have something new planned for the future.
03:37Yeah, there you go.
03:38It's on your bucket list, huh?
03:41Yes.
03:42Do you, I don't even have a passport though, because, you know, being across, we can use
03:49our enhanced driver's license.
03:51And everywhere I've gone in South America or Mexico has been via a cruise.
03:57And you could just have your driver's license, special tourist, you know, visits.
04:05So I never, ever, ever really in my life got a passport.
04:10Do you at least have a passport so you're ready to go if you can go?
04:14I do have a passport.
04:16You're in better shape than I, then.
04:21All right.
04:23I know the audience is probably saying, enough of this foolishness.
04:28Well, it's kind of interesting and relevant why I have a passport, that in 1978, my former
04:37husband and I started a small business in Kalispell, Montana, which is a small town.
04:42Well, small town by most people's standards.
04:45It's about 20,000 people.
04:47By Montana standards, we're a city.
04:50Yeah.
04:50Yeah.
04:51Well, I'm in a Detroit Southern suburb.
04:54We, there's like 10,000 houses.
04:58Yeah.
04:58Maybe 25,000, 30,000 people total.
05:01So I understand.
05:03But our city.
05:04Yeah.
05:05But anyway, we started out doing vacuum repair and gradually did other repair and slowly
05:13added new vacuums and became a representative for the Giacchone Company, which did the simplicity
05:19of our vacuums.
05:21So who, to what company?
05:23The Giacchone Company.
05:24They are in Missouri and they make American-made vacuums and have for a good many years.
05:29I don't know that I've ever heard of that one.
05:32That's a new one.
05:33They need to do something with their publicity.
05:36Yeah.
05:36But anyway, my little shop outsold the places in like Seattle, the Twin Cities, and I won
05:50a trip to Mexico.
05:53All expenses paid, the airline, the motel stayed, cash allotment for a good time.
06:01But I had to have a passport to take advantage of it.
06:05So I got a passport.
06:06Yeah.
06:07Yeah.
06:07But I did it because my little shop in Little Cowspell, Montana was one of their 20 most successful
06:14dealers in the nation.
06:15And they did not adjust for a population or anything.
06:18They were just looking at total production, total sales, total customer happiness, things
06:24of that type.
06:25Yeah.
06:26So in other words, my book is based on real life experiences and results.
06:32That's cool.
06:33Yeah.
06:33I'm not in the market for a vacuum and I don't know if anyone in my audience is.
06:38So let's move on.
06:41Well, I no longer own that company.
06:42I successfully sold it to two of my employees last year.
06:45I am now a full-time writer.
06:48Ah, good.
06:49Cool.
06:50Good to hear that.
06:51Good to hear that.
06:52So what was the motivation for Live Abundantly, 50 Business Lessons from the Bible?
07:01My.
07:02Share, wanting to share your experiences, I take it?
07:07Oh, that would be the noble answer.
07:10The truth is not that kind to me.
07:16The truth is, is that I noticed that contrary to the image that movies have, people who have
07:26a firm set of values tend to, in the long term, by the time they're dead, or not dead, but
07:34you know, in their elderly years, are financially better off than people with the same ability,
07:42same resources, that do not have a strong core sense of values.
07:48In other words, while observing others, it was pretty obvious to me that being religious,
07:58or that had gotten bad connotations, but it shouldn't have.
08:03It's gotten bad connotations because of people who claim to be religious who are anything but religious.
08:09Oh, amen.
08:10You aren't going to get an argument from me.
08:13It's one of the reasons why I started this show.
08:15Yeah.
08:16A whole lot of Matthew 23 fake vipers, snakes, false guide type Christians out there.
08:23I hear you.
08:25And indeed, I talk psychology, and in fact, the sixth book I've got going on now, I can't
08:34give out the title yet.
08:35Well, by the time this airs, it should be out, the book of Kennedy, kind of like the
08:41book of Job, in a way, but it's not, but it's about life and living, and indeed, human
08:48nature and psychology.
08:51And indeed, if you've got a positive sense of values and morals, that you understand life
08:58isn't just about you, even your own business and going into business, you understand it's
09:05not only about you and only your accumulation of wealth and fame and fortune and notoriety,
09:15right?
09:16Your positive morals lend more to understanding there's more than just today.
09:25Also, like I like to joke, we're going back to the 60s, it seems like, right?
09:31If it feels good, do it.
09:33I want it, and I don't want it tomorrow.
09:36I don't even want it today.
09:38You should have understood what I wanted and given it to me yesterday, kind of entitled
09:43attitude.
09:44And that's all about the live for today, today, today, today, today, they never worry about
09:51setting aside or planning for the future.
09:55Are you kind of what you found?
09:59Yes, and the way you're saying this, even in the 60s, in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate
10:03Factory, the girl says, I want it, and I want it now.
10:07The whole audience knew that she was an idiot.
10:10That did not endure her to anybody.
10:13I don't know how dumb that was, but I started reading the Bible looking for business advice.
10:20Yep, and the good thing about the 60s, though, before we get back to the businesses, the 60s
10:27flower children eventually woke up from their stupor and realized there is more to life than
10:34just the here and now.
10:36There is the hereafter, and that birthed the Jesus revolution.
10:41So, I'm hopeful and prayerful we'll have a Jesus revolution resurgence again now with
10:49all this selfish behavior.
10:51But yeah, you're here to talk about the 50 business lessons from the Bible.
10:57Well, when I started reading it, one of the first things that, the first time I read the
11:06Bible as an adult, one of the first things that really surprised me is that contrary to
11:10the impression I had from Sunday school lessons, there are very few miracles in the Bible.
11:16Most of it is everyday common sense, 6,000 years of history of what happens when people
11:22interact with each other.
11:24Human nature, yes, psychology, and yeah, our need to have a parent, because no matter how
11:36much we've advanced as a society, we're still but children in the wilderness, yes?
11:43Yes, and business is simply people fulfilling the needs of other people, and that has been
11:53true from time immemorial.
11:55That's the people who usually become wealthy, indeed, you find a niche, find a need, find
12:04a hole in the market, or invent a better mousetrap, indeed, fulfill others' needs rather
12:12than the selfish pursuit of wealth, although that can come with it, and since it's a biblical
12:21show, it is not money is the root of all evil.
12:25It doesn't say that.
12:27The love of money is the root of all evil.
12:31Money is but a useful tool, and I'd like to have a heck of a lot more of it than what
12:38I got.
12:39Well, the important thing to remember is, like I said, it rains alike on the godly and
12:46the ungodly.
12:48Both rich and poor are going to be good and bad, and a person's current financial situation
12:55tells you nothing about the person.
12:58Right.
12:58Martin Luther King Jr., content of character.
13:02In fact, in my The Book of Kennedy book, I go into the three biblical passages that Martin
13:11Luther King Jr. drew upon to get his content of character statement, and indeed.
13:22One of the important things to note is, because the Bible is so much misrepresented when Sunday
13:38school lessons talk about the miracles, its relevance to everyday life and everyday relationships
13:45is oftentimes missed.
13:50Yeah, I can agree with that.
13:54Again, it's kind of part of the human nature again.
13:57We want the flash.
13:59We want the pomp.
14:00We want the circumstance.
14:03The Matthew 23 Christians, again, I call them the kumbaya around the campfire Jesus Christians.
14:10They don't want that tough love part that's every bit, if not more important, than the
14:17kumbaya singing parts.
14:20Yes?
14:21Right.
14:23Discipline.
14:24The one thing that we shouldn't be getting from going to church is faith.
14:30And a person needs faith to survive in business.
14:34A person needs faith to accomplish anything that is worthwhile.
14:38Well, like when you wrote your books, I learned in that interview that one of your books took
14:4315 years to write.
14:45It took faith to finish writing it.
14:47And everything in our everyday lives is anti-faith.
14:53You're not supposed to have any confidence in anything.
14:57And if you get together regularly with other believers, you're practicing faith.
15:02And it's almost like exercising a muscle.
15:08Like if you go out, work out in a gym, and you're lifting weights on a regular basis, you
15:14are developing those muscles.
15:16What you could tell I don't do.
15:18Yeah.
15:19Those looking on radio could say.
15:21But because you have exercised in the gym and practiced those muscles, if something happens
15:30where you're there to help pull somebody out of a pit, you have the muscles to do it.
15:34Because you have practiced the mental muscle of faith with other believers in your church
15:41or your synagogue or wherever you meet on a regular religious basis, you are going to
15:48have the faith it takes to get through what seems like it's going to be an absolute disaster.
15:54And if you have a business that fails, you have the faith to say, this failed.
15:59What have I learned?
16:01And see it as a learning experience, not as a permanent mark of failure.
16:07It takes to pick up the pieces and start again and again and again and again.
16:12Yeah.
16:13We're all human, flawed, frail, imperfect.
16:16We can make mistakes.
16:18God gave us free will.
16:20We can screw things up and we often do.
16:24But yes, have we, are we learning from it?
16:28The Bible does not say God helps those who help themselves, but it does imply it in that
16:37you shall be known by your fruits.
16:40You must sow to reap.
16:43So you must do things.
16:46Is there, I doubt there is, but is there one key thing, top business lesson from the Bible
16:57that you can share?
16:58I don't want you to give away the 50, obviously.
17:01We want them to buy your book.
17:04But is there like a key there?
17:08I think everybody that goes into business should read the story of Joseph and the book of Job.
17:15The story of Joseph, because he is first, he is almost murdered by his own brothers, but
17:25instead he is sold into slavery.
17:28A fate worse than death, almost always.
17:31Then he looks out and he gets bought by a good man who soon recognizes his talent and makes him a head honcho for all of his workings.
17:45And then he is unfairly accused of going after his master's wife.
17:51He ends up in jail, which is sort of lucky because in those days he could have just been killed.
17:56So evidently the master probably suspected the truth, but he didn't dare confront the truth.
18:05Something that still happens today.
18:08Yeah.
18:09And he helps people.
18:10Yeah.
18:10Like, which way they get out.
18:13He has bad luck.
18:14But it took all of that bad luck to become second in command of Egypt, which would be like becoming president of the United States today, and saving his family.
18:27We do not know what bad luck or good luck is.
18:33Yeah.
18:33Well, like you were saying, the unfortunateness of bearing false witness, false accusation, is why it upsets me so much.
18:45We seem to have removed all the important books and replaced them with what I call the new core R's.
18:52It's radicalism, raunch, and racism in school rather than reading, writing, arithmetic, and history like To Kill a Mockingbird.
19:04That's out, but this softcore porn crap is in when To Kill a Mockingbird has such important, and that's one of the reasons why they wanted it out,
19:16biblical lessons about bearing false witness in it.
19:20It has nothing necessarily to do with race, although that is involved in there also, but it's about false witness, and indeed, not wanting to confront the reality and the truth, and, oh, let that guy take the fall for it, right?
19:40Unfortunately, that's something we sometimes learn in kindergarten, that we are more afraid of being punished than afraid of telling the truth, and if somebody else gets the blame for something that went wrong, we miss getting punished.
20:00Yeah, well, like in the book of Kennedy, one of the psychological things I go into in about false witness and dealing with reality is, right, the old saying, when you point the finger, right, how many are pointing right back at yourself, right?
20:20Look in the mirror, confront your own, remove the log from thine own eye first, right?
20:27Right, and it starts not just with actually accusing someone, but any type of rumor mongering, that I was genuinely appalled when I discovered that in the New Testament, people who spread rumors are put in the same category as murderers.
20:48And you know what, an admission, again, we're recording on Monday, July the 14th, I was on Rick Walker's Maverick News show last night, and we were talking about the new Superman movie, I hadn't seen it yet, well, now I did see it today, and I myself, stupidly, foolishly, and have to beg forgiveness for spreading rumor and innuendo and accusations
21:18towards the director of the director of that movie that I myself don't know are or are not true, but yet, indeed, I spread them, and so I'm as guilty of it, again, braille, imperfect, flawed human I am.
21:36I do stupid stuff sometimes, and I did it last night on Rick Walker's Maverick News, airwaves, spreading rumor and innuendo and accusation that I have no idea is based in reality or not, but it's something I kind of wanted to believe a little, so therefore my lips got loose, and it leaked from my mouth when it should not have.
22:06It's something we're all guilty of.
22:36And the National Enquirer oftentimes has more truth in it than the New York Times does, but then again, almost I'm kind of spreading rumor again and innuendo, but people should learn and research for themselves to know.
22:54Now, you've got to know who you've got to know who you could trust, though, at the same time, right?
22:59When a publication continually repeats false information as fact and truth, well, you've got to know they're the real rag versus the Enquirer, which a lot of times is just tongue-in-cheek fun idiocy anyway, right?
23:21Meant to get a chuckle and be extra conspiratorial nonsense, clickbait in modern vernacular, right?
23:33And some of the people who believe all that stuff are just, whoa, rather than see it as entertainment.
23:41But at any rate, as you can tell, I'm still all wound up from my computer acting up.
23:48You remind me of one of my very favorite scenes of the movie Man in Black, where the guy goes to the newspaper stand and gets all the cheap tabloids and says, this is where we get the only true information.
24:01About the aliens, yes, yeah, I love that movie, that's great.
24:07I thought for a minute you were going to say network, right?
24:11I'll open the window, I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore, because I'm also known as Raging Joe on Savage Unfiltered, where that's my usual persona there, is he's screaming out the window, get off my lawn!
24:28To be honest, I'm probably one of the few people that didn't really like network, I found it a very pretentious movie, and I found Man in Black way more honest, it knew exactly what it was, and it delivered exactly what it promised to deliver.
24:44Oh, it was a lot of fun, it was a lot of fun, absolutely.
24:48And a merry heart death, good like medicine.
24:51Yeah.
24:51One of the other things I have learned is that it is essential to business to find a reason to be thankful every single day, so you have that habit, because you're going to have some really bad days, and to find a reason to smile broadly, and hopefully laugh every single day.
25:10Movies like Man in Black do a favor, because they let us just sit back, relax, laugh, enjoy life the way we are supposed to treasure, this awesome gift.
25:23Yeah, as I said, I'm Raging Joe on Savage Unfiltered.
25:28I have a lot more loud and angry, I'm normally a lot more, I'm energetic, I'm on disability.
25:38So, like, after this interview, I'm going to need a nap.
25:42I don't have this kind of energy normally.
25:45And when I do expend it, I'm spent, so I'll need a nap after this.
25:50But, as Raging Joe on Savage Unfiltered, my friend Savage, Michael.
25:59Michael Savage?
26:00Yeah, Michael Savage, yeah.
26:03Yeah.
26:03I forgot what I was going to say.
26:06Oh, oh, the Happy Gilmore 2 movie is coming out soon.
26:10By the time this airs, it might be out then.
26:14But we do some movie reviews there, so I always enjoy talking movies, too.
26:21And that's another one, like the Men in Black, right?
26:23It's got some important life lesson material in it, but it's meant to be fun and tongue-in-cheek.
26:33And we need to keep a sense of humor.
26:35Some Christians are too uptight all the time.
26:40Yes?
26:41Well, that brings me back to my book, I Live Abundantly, 50 Business Lessons from the Bible.
26:46So, first of all, I found the emotional business lessons.
26:50I did, there's a whole bunch of very serious business lessons about, you know, know how much money you have.
26:55I left those out.
26:57Because you can get that from any accounting book.
26:59I had 50 emotional lessons.
27:02But the book is written with a sense of humor.
27:05There are some very serious sections.
27:07One section in particular is serious.
27:09But most of it is fun.
27:13That's why the first section is Elephants are Tithing.
27:17And it starts out with, how do you eat an elephant?
27:20One bite at a time.
27:22That's lesson number one.
27:23Yeah.
27:24And one of the other things is, too, the old saying, if you love what you do, you won't work a day in your life.
27:32So, from what I'm hearing from you, that's part of it.
27:36To learn to enjoy what you're doing so it isn't so, you're not begrudgingly doing it every day, yes?
27:47That is an important part.
27:49But part of making something enjoyable is knowing that whatever it is you're doing has importance.
27:57That people make a big adieu about the purpose-driven life.
28:01For me, it started with a purpose-driven business that I knew for a fact that my business made life better for the other people in my community.
28:13And not just better on a personal level, but actually increased the financial success of my community as a whole.
28:22Like I said, my business started out as a repair shop.
28:25Pretty humble.
28:26But money spent in a small-town business stays in that community almost every day.
28:33Oh, yeah.
28:34Yeah.
28:35My friend Ron Edwards that does the Edwards Notebook is carried nationally, the Edwards Notebook, including locally here on WAM Radio out of Ann Arbor, Michigan.
28:46He had one of his Edwards Notebook minutes on that, indeed, about money spent in the community, how it circulates usually 50 times in the community before it actually leaves the community.
29:07Whereas if I'm plopping my money down on Amazon all the time, it's mainly going to California.
29:15And China.
29:16Yeah, and China.
29:18Oh, my sister, I call her the Timu Queen.
29:22She's always buying the cheap crap from China through Timu.
29:27I'm trying to break her of that habit.
29:29I'm trying to reduce my Amazon spending and, indeed, do more mom-and-pop shop-type purchases of what I can, indeed.
29:39And you get a personal relationship that way.
29:43You know the clerks.
29:45You can get to know the owners.
29:47Yes?
29:49Yes.
29:49Not only that, but the owner knows that you might be meeting him at the grocery store.
29:56You might be next to each other in line.
29:57And if you have just made him unhappy, and if his kids are with him, it can be embarrassing for him.
30:03So he is motivated to do the very best he can.
30:06That guy that guy that you send money to in Amazon, or even the manager of your local Walmart, he's not going to meet at the stores you're shopping at.
30:17He's not going to be in the grocery line with you.
30:19You get mad at him, big deal.
30:22It's nothing personal to him.
30:25Small business, it is personal.
30:27It's absolutely personal.
30:30Yeah, and we should want to make it personal and personable.
30:34Yes, very much so.
30:39Okay.
30:40Wow.
30:40Wow.
30:42The time has flown by.
30:44So let's start to wrap things up.
30:49Are there any other key last things you want to get in?
30:54Since I spent a whole first 15 minutes, I think, on stupid stuff we shouldn't have been.
31:01So in all seriousness, do you have got some more serious advice to throw in here at the end to get us back on track?
31:14Just remember, whatever financial resources you have, that, like I say in my book, money is like a shovel.
31:25Used wisely, you can make a garden that has great abundance.
31:31Don't use it.
31:32Leave it up in the attic.
31:34It is absolutely worthless to you, your neighbors, and everybody.
31:38Squander it, it's like that shovel left in a mud puddle to rot, rust away, and be worthless.
31:46Yeah, and let the weeds all grow, right?
31:50Yeah.
31:50Yeah, it goes back.
31:52If you can't use it yourself, lend the money to a neighbor who will, he'll make the garden.
31:58Yeah.
31:58But money is just a tool to accomplish great things.
32:03Think of it that way.
32:06Treat it like you would any other tool in the tool shed.
32:09Yeah.
32:09It goes back to you must reap good to sow good, or we are all complicit in the rotten fruit,
32:18and we're all trying to choke down.
32:20We allowed someone else to sow instead.
32:24Very much so.
32:25And, Joseph, I thank you for having this program and helping spread the word that financial control
32:35in a sense of self-control and investment is a very Christian, loving thing to do for your family and your neighborhood.
32:46Yeah, it's all connected and related.
32:51Our physical health, our mental health, our financial health has a lot to do with how good our physical and mental health can be.
33:02And as you said, as a tool, do you have a website that people can go to?
33:10I did have a website for my other business.
33:12Just look up Fran Tabor.
33:14You'll find there's also an actress named Fran Tabor, not me, although I think I'd make a great actress.
33:23But just look up Fran Tabor, and you'll find my books.
33:29If you look up Fran Tabor plus Draft2Digital, you'll find all of them, too.
33:34Draft2Digital is where I do my self-publishing, and I've been very happy with them, so I don't mind giving them a free plug.
33:42I think we should help each other.
33:46Draft2Digital bought up Smashwords.
33:50I used to use Smashwords until they bought them up.
33:53Yeah, Smashwords used to have all kinds of free services.
33:57Now they've made it all pay-to-play services, unfortunately.
34:02Not to say the services aren't good.
34:05It's just nice when you can get some free services here and there because everything is so expensive these days, and it's understandable why they've got to charge for it, too.
34:17You can't keep giving stuff away for free forever.
34:20Remember, nothing is free.
34:23The money's got to come from someplace.
34:27And I just want everybody to remember, find a reason to smile every day and to say thank you for something, anything, every day.
34:36Sounds good.
34:37Thank you again, Fran Tabor, for coming on.
34:41And the book is Live Abundantly, 50 Business Lessons from the Bible.
34:46They can find it.
34:47I have a copy.
34:48If I can get it on the right screen.
34:50Yeah, if the green screen will cooperate.
34:52For those looking on behind-the-scenes video, you could see it.
34:58Yeah, I know.
35:00Green screens act up.
35:02I know, especially with yellow, blue, or green books.
35:08Thank you, Fran Tabor.
35:10Take care.
35:11God bless.
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