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Willard and Dibs join Steiny and Guru on a Monday edition of the Crossover. The guys remember the legendary Don Nelson a day after he passed away.
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00:06Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:11Alright, it is time for the crossover brought to you by Bay Alarm.
00:15Rest easy, we've got you covered. Bay Alarm.
00:17Let's welcome in Mark Willard and Dan Dibley.
00:20It is the crossover.
00:21The fellas!
00:22Hi boys!
00:23How are you guys?
00:24Oh, so good.
00:26Refreshed.
00:27Oh, I saw you with the...
00:29Oh.
00:30I was just going to say why.
00:32You do that.
00:33Probably.
00:33I'm tired of going Westbrook in this thing.
00:35It's probably the same answer.
00:37You can say why and now you can say what you were going to say.
00:39I saw a lovely picture of you and a lovely Christy Willard in a golf cart.
00:43I was like, I want to be there.
00:44Where was that?
00:45Beautiful.
00:46Eagle Vines.
00:46Eagle Vines, which is out in American Canyon out toward Napa.
00:51Just, you know, a few exits past Discovery Kingdom.
00:55We decided to go...
00:57See, this is a fun thing of your wife picking up golf.
01:00I get to go, like every Saturday, we're going to try to go show her another place and
01:05another one.
01:06Another one.
01:07And Eagle Vines is one of my favorites and they were phenomenal to us.
01:11The course is excellent.
01:13Good people out there.
01:15All right, there it is.
01:16Transfusions, good transfusions.
01:18Yeah.
01:19I know what those are now.
01:20I didn't.
01:21Yeah.
01:21I didn't know, like, this is like a golf course.
01:23Really?
01:24Really meaning I didn't know what they were?
01:26Yes.
01:26You know me.
01:27I'm not a drinker on the golf course.
01:29But I mean, it's like the number one golf drink.
01:32You know.
01:33Yeah.
01:35Way too easy to drink.
01:36And I suck when I drink.
01:38Oh.
01:39All right.
01:39Good front nines, bad back nines.
01:41But thank you, Eagle Vines.
01:43It's just an awesome course.
01:45And it was a beautiful day out there.
01:46Where were you two when you got the Nelly news?
01:49I was on the couch like a bump on the pickle.
01:52It was a text from you, right?
01:54Or Grandy.
01:55Maybe Grandy.
01:55Yeah.
01:56Yeah.
01:57Yeah.
01:57That's how we get all of our news.
01:59Grandy, Texas.
02:0086, great run, though.
02:02Easy for me to say.
02:03It's funny because I just was out there with the salespeople and I said, you know, and they're
02:06a lot younger.
02:07I said, 86.
02:09Are you taking it?
02:10All day, every day.
02:11Right.
02:12And so, you know, they all kind of were going through it.
02:14And of course, Dylan, your guy who you call Ryan, he's like, I mean, what does the 86
02:19look like?
02:20Is it, you know, 78 and then eight years of like organ failure and like.
02:2586 is 86.
02:26But I said to him, I'm like, you know what?
02:28That's actually a great follow-up question because if it's, you know, 75 and the last
02:3211 are like, you're like, you know, holding on for dear life, then no.
02:37But.
02:37I think it's Louis C.K.
02:38that did a bit on the hot dog.
02:40Cause you know how the hot dog, they say like each one you eat takes 30 seconds off
02:45of your life or whatever.
02:47And he's like, but what are we really holding off on the hot dogs for?
02:51Are you holding off so that I can get the extra two years at the end?
02:54Am I a vegetable?
02:56Is someone pushing me around?
02:58I changed it.
02:58Now.
02:58Am I in pain?
02:59You know what I'm saying?
03:00Right.
03:00So anyway, but if that was true, and if that was true, Joey Chestnut would have died at
03:06the age of four.
03:07Well, there you go.
03:08Another good point.
03:09Yeah.
03:09Another good point.
03:10But yeah, um, I, I get the sense that he was like the last couple of weeks got tough,
03:16but I think, let's say six months ago, he was fine.
03:20He looked great.
03:21He seemed to be, um, enjoying life.
03:25Exactly.
03:25What an original man.
03:27And wow.
03:28What an original.
03:28A.S.C.
03:29What an original.
03:30Piece of work.
03:31Right?
03:32Absolutely.
03:32I mean, you covered him for, I mean, both stints, right?
03:36Uh, well, yeah, but the second stint that we believe was the, that was the year that
03:42I was, you know, pretty close to the team.
03:44Right.
03:44And he was, uh, you know, you know, we hear him compared, you know, he's a little bit
03:49like John Madden.
03:51He was a little like John Madden.
03:53And he didn't mind that his players were doing their own things.
03:57As long as, as long as when they stepped onto the field, they were, they were ready and
04:01they played hard.
04:02And that's kind of the way he coached those that we believe team.
04:05He didn't care what they did off the floor.
04:08Right.
04:08As long as they did what they did on the floor.
04:10That's a good comp.
04:11I mean, Madden actually won a chip.
04:14And I was thinking earlier today about like Bay area coaches who have no championship.
04:18Is there anyone more beloved than Don Nelson?
04:21Like a coach who doesn't have a chip.
04:23Bob Melvin is a guy.
04:25I mean, Kyle Shanahan, but, uh, you know, I'm about to bring him up.
04:28You know, I rip him off for that.
04:30I mean, I think that Nelly's more beloved than Shani.
04:33Yeah.
04:34And I mean, you've got Vitello and Bob Melvin.
04:37And what about Dusty Baker?
04:39Why are they running out of their staff?
04:41That's a great one.
04:41That's a great one.
04:42That's a great one.
04:43And then here's the other one.
04:44Not to disagree.
04:45Mariucci, but not to the level.
04:48It's good.
04:49No, but he might be on the Mount, no chip, but we love you more.
04:53Yeah.
04:53That's what, that's what I'm trying to figure out.
04:54Who would be on that list?
04:56I mean, I think Mooch is a great call.
04:58What about Roger?
05:00Roger Craig.
05:00The Hum Baby, yeah.
05:01Hum Baby, big time.
05:03Yeah.
05:03I mean, it's most of the coaches.
05:06Yeah.
05:06I mean, it is.
05:07It is.
05:08Take out Boach and Steve Kerr, Bill Walsh, throwing a little Seaford there in the end.
05:13It's everybody else.
05:14But there are those coaches that we don't be loved, like Jim Harbaugh and Chip Kelly and
05:20Tom Sula.
05:21We could do the Cozenmore Tom Sula replay.
05:24That was so great.
05:25I mean, ever.
05:27I'm not watching on the way.
05:29Brian Winters, Dave Cowens, Muscleman.
05:32I'm saying you love them all.
05:33I'm just saying that, yeah, I think the list of coaches we like is longer than, I guess,
05:39the four who have won, you know?
05:41But Nelson was a favorite.
05:42And I'm struck by, like, the coaches that we love who didn't win.
05:45Like, Don Nelson, we believe.
05:47You won five playoff games, which is what Steph and Jimmy did two years ago.
05:52And that doesn't have a t-shirt or a nickname.
05:54But you could put that, we believe, up to the four.
05:57I know it's not right, but we were down and out that we believe year, up into, like, one
06:04of these four chips or Rick Barry's.
06:06It was like we won the chip.
06:08We were accepted.
06:09I think.
06:10Warriors.
06:11It was incredible.
06:13No, seriously.
06:14No doubt.
06:15Look.
06:15We were dead.
06:16Could I argue for people, for fans of our age?
06:20Okay.
06:20That was our favorite non-championship year.
06:24Oh.
06:25Right?
06:25Not even close.
06:26Not even close.
06:27Second for me, nobody asked, Weber's rookie year, when they lost to Phoenix.
06:31But, yeah.
06:32And I was a huge run TMC guy.
06:35Like, there were great moments and all of that.
06:38But that was the best.
06:40Back to the Lakers.
06:41That was the, you know, in the PGA Tour, like the PGA, the Tour Championship or whatever,
06:47they're always like, this is the fifth major.
06:50That's, we believe, is the fifth major for all Warriors seasons.
06:56Great call.
06:57It was incredible.
06:57Yeah.
06:58I mean.
06:58And apologies to 75.
07:00I'm talking about fans of a certain age.
07:02But that'll never be duplicated because the thing about it was how organic it was.
07:08It's just nobody saw it coming.
07:11And then, you know, and then Paul Wong holds up a sign that says, we believe, with 10 games
07:17left in the year, they win nine out of their last 10.
07:20Come on.
07:20And.
07:22Wow, man.
07:24I can barely see it coming.
07:25We believe.
07:26I'm just.
07:27Oh, I think he saw, he knew they could beat Dallas.
07:30Okay, no, that I get.
07:31He definitely did.
07:32Man, what he did to Dirk.
07:34Wow.
07:35Well, he knew Dallas and they were 67 and 15.
07:38And like, that's the part that people forget.
07:40Dallas was 67 and 15.
07:43They were amazing in the regular year.
07:45But Avery Johnson.
07:46Right.
07:47Right.
07:47He tried.
07:48That was a bad moment.
07:49He tried to do too much.
07:50He tried to like counter it.
07:52And, you know, Nellie knew what they wanted to do.
07:54And they went out there and they snatched it.
07:57Remember the last, remember they played the last week of the season, maybe, or with two
08:01weeks to go.
08:03Dallas had everything clinched.
08:06And, but they knew that the Warriors were right there.
08:09Like they could have beaten the Warriors and the Warriors wouldn't have made the playoffs.
08:13But they rested everybody.
08:15And the Warriors beat them.
08:16And then they ended up getting the Warriors, um, that, that particular, uh, that particular
08:22series.
08:22And then the Utah.
08:24That's the one.
08:25We weren't outclassed.
08:27We had it.
08:27We just blew it.
08:28How was he to you?
08:30Nellie?
08:31Yeah.
08:31Um, I think I was, well, the first time not, I didn't really overlap with him cause he
08:37was fired halfway through my first year.
08:40Um, but the, we believe year was great cause I was doing sidelines.
08:44So I was like kind of around him or around the team.
08:49He, he never messed with me.
08:51I never messed.
08:52I mean, we, yeah, we would talk and had a beer with him.
08:54Oh yeah.
08:55A few, a few, a few different times.
08:58Usually in a group of other people, but like, that's the one thing.
09:00Like he never, he never really made a distinction between the coaching staff and the, and like
09:05Tim Roy and Barnett and me.
09:07And you know, even the guys in the truck, like he, that's one thing, you know, he, he liked
09:13the party and he kept Montgomery staffed the second time, right?
09:17Yeah.
09:17How many times does that happen to you?
09:19Never.
09:19And, uh, what about Smitty's over there on Grand?
09:22There's a bar on Grand Avenue in Oakland that is a true hole in the wall.
09:27And like up until 2022, you could still like fire lung darts inside and like, they wouldn't
09:33care.
09:34Smitty's is the name of the place.
09:36They've got about 11 bar stools and maybe one table that is teetering on three legs.
09:42Okay.
09:42Don Nelson.
09:43That's beautiful.
09:44Find him there, what?
09:45Three or four nights a week?
09:46They had.
09:47At Smitty's.
09:48They did have the shuffleboard game though.
09:51That's why he was there.
09:52True.
09:52Well, one of the reasons why he was there, he loved to like bet on that, him and a partner
09:57against Barron and Steven Jackson.
09:59And they would go there after games and play the long shuffleboard game.
10:03The, uh, Del Grande, Willie Nelson story was incredible.
10:06Incredible.
10:07I see.
10:07That's the kind of stuff I can listen to.
10:09I was like, Howard, just turn to my thoughts.
10:11Let him talk.
10:12Yeah.
10:12Tell me more about the two times you passed Willie Nelson during the week you stayed at
10:16his house.
10:17Like just fantastic.
10:19Yeah.
10:20That's so great.
10:21Well, and you know, I know for, I'm pretty sure that, you know, Raymond Ritter, the Warriors
10:25president of communications held his, uh, rehearsal dinner on Don Nelson's property.
10:31Uh, there've been a lot of people over the years that he's just let use his, I don't
10:36know what it is.
10:37A compound.
10:38We had a caller call in and say they had nowhere to sleep in Hawaii and ran into Nelson.
10:44He let him sleep in the poker room.
10:46Wow.
10:47I guess the poker room is pretty big.
10:52Not the basement that it is for the rest of us.
10:55I mean, maybe, uh, maybe tomorrow we try to get on Willie Nelson, Owen Wilson.
10:59And that would be dope.
11:01Woody Harrelson.
11:02But don't forget, uh, Mr. Ellis.
11:04I'm looking for him.
11:06Monte.
11:06Yep.
11:07That's my favorite warrior before Steph.
11:09But what are you talking about?
11:11He embarrassed himself.
11:12That was too bad.
11:14He got a new job.
11:14I know.
11:15Did you hear what happened in the press conference?
11:17He started talking about his playing days.
11:20Oh, you know.
11:21Nevermind.
11:22Nevermind.
11:23That was, that was.
11:24That's my guy.
11:26I know.
11:26And I can't like, I hate that stuff.
11:29I just wish the greats of the game.
11:32When you retire, find a way to either show some respect for what's now or just stop talking.
11:40But you know, nothing sounds worse than when you're like, Brock and Monday, we were good.
11:45And these guys suck.
11:46Like, I can't stand it.
11:49But what hurt me is I thought he was over this because we had him on the show a couple
11:53years ago, Dibs.
11:54But that lets me know you left Steph and you kind of messed up.
12:00But for you to say that that way, come on.
12:03Now, Hedame said it.
12:04Like, you needed the three-pointer.
12:06Just, you wasn't that.
12:08I loved it.
12:09I mean, he would be that.
12:10Like, nowadays.
12:11But, like, when he was leaving the game, the three wasn't yet the three.
12:15And the three became the three because of his teammate, Steph Curry.
12:19It's also, to me, it's just so disrespectful and diminishing.
12:23Steph is not just a three-point shooter.
12:26We know this.
12:27This is one of the all-time minted greats of the game of basketball.
12:34Dame, Monte, or throw in any other name.
12:37And my answer is no.
12:38It would not just be the same.
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12:50Yeah, Evan told me that this morning and said, you know, Monte, something about four.
12:54He would have won four titles.
12:56He said it would have been the same.
12:57Okay, so.
12:59Not two.
13:00The championships would have been the same.
13:02Of course, if it were me instead of Steph.
13:04Yeah, that's what I said.
13:05I said, well, I might.
13:07I'll give him two.
13:08Yeah, you can have a Durant one.
13:10I ain't giving him two.
13:11And that's my guy.
13:12I think I could have done the Durant ones.
13:14There it is.
13:15Come on.
13:16Yeah, no.
13:17He could not have done.
13:19Monte couldn't have been on a team that resembled the first championship team.
13:25God love him.
13:26Will Jordan Poole have the career that Monte Ellis had?
13:29Oh, no.
13:30No.
13:30I don't think so.
13:31But I do think that when I think about Jordan Poole, I think a lot about Monte.
13:35I remember Monte early days pre-Steph where he was my son's favorite player.
13:40He was it.
13:41But he would go like, you know, nine for 21 and give you 25 points in a 117-108 loss.
13:48And that, to me, is kind of like Jordan Poole.
13:51A little bit.
13:52But, like, he can get a bucket in a number of different ways, but can he help you win
13:57and be better?
13:57I don't see it.
13:58I don't know if he ever had, you know, was he better than Poole?
14:01Was he granted with the team?
14:02And I think that actually was his point.
14:05But I think he made it a little bit too strongly.
14:09Because I could hear Fitz calling Monte when he would be in the zone.
14:12He's a good player.
14:13He was a good player.
14:15Really good player.
14:17Really good player.
14:18Yeah, he was an interesting player for sure.
14:22And, you know, speaking of Don Nelson, he had his little bumps in the road with Don Nelson.
14:29Remember, you know, well, we got Monte Ellison.
14:32He's like, well, the only way he's going to be a great player is if he's a point guard.
14:35And they go to Monte and he'd be like, I'm a guard.
14:38And then, you know, three, four months later, Nelson would be like, well, he doesn't want to be a point
14:43guard.
14:43So, I won't have him be a point guard.
14:46And, you know, I just also remember Monte being kind of exasperated by Don Nelson and vice versa.
14:56Do you know what struck the hell out of me?
14:57We were talking about this on the Fox show last night, Monte, and this statement that he made.
15:03John's using their challenges in the fourth inning.
15:05I want to know what you're talking about when the old guys start talking about the current guys and everything.
15:09And now he's the GM at Alcorn State and blah, blah, blah.
15:13And I looked at his age and I'm like, he's younger than LeBron James.
15:17He's barely older than Steph.
15:21Monte Ellis is 40 years old.
15:23Wow.
15:24That is amazing.
15:25Isn't that crazy?
15:26That is crazy.
15:27That stopped me in my tracks.
15:29And his career ended sooner, like, faster for these times.
15:33Like, man.
15:34I mean, shout out mopeds.
15:35I'm sure that didn't help.
15:37Yeah.
15:37Oh, there you go.
15:38I think he had knee problems at the end of his career, and that took away.
15:41But remember when he came out of high school, he had, I want to say his junior year, he missed
15:45his whole junior year because of a knee injury.
15:48And then he decides to come out.
15:50And then the reason he lasted until 40 was because everybody was scared of his knee.
15:54But Mullen tells a great story about going down to, what the heck was his town in Mississippi?
16:01Jackson.
16:01Or Lanier or something like that.
16:03Lanier High School.
16:04He was born in Jackson.
16:04Jackson.
16:05Oh, yeah.
16:05Just, I think, he went to watch him play, and he's like, he had 68.
16:10I'm like, what do you mean?
16:11He had 68 points.
16:12I'm serious.
16:13Like, he scored like crazy in high school.
16:16Damn.
16:17Yeah.
16:18Great player.
16:18It's like Guru playing with his kid over the weekend.
16:2168 points.
16:22Yeah, man.
16:23I love that you're counting turnovers and assists.
16:25The lady does, they do the stats.
16:27Oh, there was somebody that did that.
16:29I was like, is this guy out there?
16:30But I kind of knew.
16:32And she texted me that he was a minus 14 for the game.
16:35We didn't get that.
16:37And you only had five players, right?
16:39Yeah, only five.
16:39So you're playing, like, it's 20 minutes running.
16:41Yeah, two timeouts.
16:4215-minute mark and seven for me, and I call them.
16:45If we're on a run.
16:46Time out.
16:47We only got five.
16:48I need to breathe.
16:49So, like, huffing and puffing?
16:52Like, were you, like, winded, like, up and down?
16:55Well, this last team was, their style was kind of slow.
16:58So I was okay.
16:59No shot clock.
17:00Yeah, no.
17:00No shot clock.
17:01Right.
17:02Yeah.
17:02Two timeouts, 15-7 minutes.
17:04What was the name?
17:06Hydration breaks?
17:07Exactly.
17:07No, I'm out there.
17:08We have no subs.
17:10I'm banging and going up against all this.
17:13It was a pickup game.
17:13Hey, we were on a fast break one time.
17:15Time out.
17:17The game was up to 11.
17:18Wow.
17:19No, no.
17:19There is no game.
17:21It's an adult league game.
17:22It's an adult league.
17:2220-minute running clock.
17:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:25You're playing in those still?
17:26Yeah.
17:26It's because it's kid and you're in the fifth.
17:29Look at Eddie.
17:30They called that.
17:30Oh, no, they were going the other way, and I'm like, time out.
17:34It's 7.50.
17:35I need some time out.
17:37I'm going to catch you, you little young players.
17:38I'm for real.
17:38But, Stoddy, it's that.
17:39Did you win?
17:40No, we lost by 15.
17:41Two cats from Yuba College, junior college.
17:44Cards looking like Mark Price.
17:46Must have just given my son to business.
17:48I told him on the way home, I said, that was great, D, but that was a better shot.
17:54Just killing us.
17:55Mark Price putting him on him.
17:56Just killing us.
17:57Like a six-foot white guy with like a nice.
18:00Six-foot two-three.
18:01Yeah, exactly.
18:01One was a little taller, dunking out on the way home.
18:04I was like, little D, I know about me, but they took you to the woods.
18:08What was the age of the next youngest person on the floor?
18:11Because you are 50.
18:13We don't talk about it.
18:14Like 25.
18:15They're all 24.
18:16Daryl's age.
18:16So the next youngest person was 25.
18:18Yeah, on our team.
18:19And all I demanded was give it to me on the post.
18:22Just give it to me on the post.
18:24And then what?
18:26We'll score.
18:28But I saw you went three for eight, so.
18:30Yeah, I missed some.
18:31I thought it was three for seven.
18:32But the problem, guy, real quick, nobody cares.
18:34His defense is, yeah.
18:35Oh.
18:36Dude, I'm going up against Thundercats, man.
18:38And I just don't have it.
18:40Of course not.
18:41What are you trying to do?
18:42I'm like a spaghetti noodle.
18:44I'm here.
18:45I can't see it.
18:47It's kind of like, anyway.
18:49I told you, Susan.
18:51Did you at least use your fouls?
18:52You have to go out there and be a cop.
18:53Yeah, I'm playing hard.
18:55I'm using my fouls.
18:56Thank God, no subs.
18:57Dude, no more.
18:58Shout out TLC, no subs.
19:00What's up?
19:01No scrubs.
19:0220-minute halves?
19:0320-minute halves.
19:04Running clock?
19:04Yeah, so I called a timeout.
19:06Until he calls timeout.
19:07It's 15 and 7.
19:09On a fast break, starting timeout.
19:12Damn, anyway.
19:14What do you guys got going today?
19:17I mean, we'll reminisce about Nelly as well.
19:20And Larry Riley's going to come on.
19:21Oh, you got, okay, awesome.
19:22But Niners camp as well.
19:24Matt Barrels is going to come on.
19:26And, you know, one thing I want to do to ask people, is this the worst Giants season ever?
19:36Like, ever.
19:37It feels that way to me.
19:38And when I say ever, just within whatever y'all can remember.
19:43I'm being real.
19:44I can't remember ever feeling like this in the month of August.
19:47Yeah, I'm with you, Will.
19:48This is like.
19:49And I still look at them on paper.
19:51I know guys are hurt or out and feel like this is not acceptable.
19:55Of course not.
19:56Again, you're out of challenges in the fourth inning.
19:59Well, you're amazing for even being that topped in.
20:02Yep.
20:02Well, I, I, I, honestly, I can't, I'm just.
20:06I'll tell it on myself.
20:07This is a live group.
20:08The disinterest is, I've never felt this before.
20:12Wow.
20:12Um, this early.
20:14Sure, the last week.
20:16But, like, this is, all I know from the weekend is Devers didn't run again.
20:21I got that message.
20:23Something happened with Roop, too.
20:24Oh, yeah.
20:25He scared down Tony Vitale.
20:27Yeah, he did.
20:28He's a little bit too much of a red ass for my taste.
20:30Hey, and he walked the bases loaded of all the time to come out, bud.
20:34I'm, I'm, I'm trying to.
20:35Give me the ball.
20:36Yeah.
20:37Give me the ball.
20:39I said, who are you?
20:39Landon, like.
20:41I'm with you.
20:41You ain't live.
20:42This has been a weird year for you.
20:44No doubt about it.
20:45And I would hit the brakes.
20:46No doubt about it.
20:47Whole time out at 15 and 7, Landon.
20:49And he had your back when you wrote the stuff on the hat Tony has.
20:53And this is how you repay him.
20:54Right.
20:54I just wonder if you did like an honest, anonymous poll of players in that clubhouse.
21:00Like, who is pro Tony and who's anti?
21:02It feels to me like if Landon Roop is showing him up in that fashion.
21:06And, you know, Logan already was a little confused when he got pulled.
21:09And you got veterans like Rafi Devers, who's not running out.
21:13I would love to answer his.
21:15Like, I just wonder, and I know it's not going to happen,
21:18but I wonder what needs to happen to get these guys to buy in.
21:22Well, I think there's also a fair question, though.
21:25Let's say half of them don't like Tony Vitello.
21:28Is the answer then to move on from Vitello?
21:31I mean, who the hell?
21:33Logan Webb, that's a different answer for me.
21:35But how many dudes in that clubhouse have the cachet for me to give a crap
21:38if you like the manager or not?
21:40Do you know what I mean?
21:41Not many.
21:42And Landon Roop ain't one of them yet.
21:43Right.
21:43Well, to me, it's like, okay, the veterans, Devers, Adamus, Chapman, and Webb.
21:50It's like, well, they're going to play.
21:52So, yeah, maybe they don't think he's a great manager,
21:57but he doesn't have to manage them.
21:58He just has to put them into the lineup.
22:00I do think that the younger players, you know,
22:04they're more fair game in terms of,
22:06I'll bet you a lot of the younger players do like and respect Vitello.
22:11Maybe.
22:12I haven't gotten a read on it yet.
22:14But I'm curious to Dib's point.
22:16I want to know.
22:17I think we'll find out, man.
22:19You see, they basically invited the beat writers to watch Willie Adamus warm up.
22:24I think that's not embarrassing, but it's almost like a –
22:27But this is what I mean.
22:28Yes.
22:28This whole year –
22:29It's fake hustle.
22:31It's hustle is what Mark calls it.
22:32He couldn't believe it.
22:33I think it's just like this team,
22:35they are one step behind the PR war every week.
22:40And that is, man.
22:41Every week they're just running around with a hose trying to put out weird fires.
22:46As opposed to –
22:46I couldn't believe reading that, Will.
22:49And, I mean, I get it.
22:50I get it.
22:51They were super offended by that Apple TV comment.
22:54They were very, very –
22:55He was very offended.
22:57Still is.
22:57Yeah.
22:58And the Giants, I mean, they're probably right.
23:00Like, I don't think –
23:01So is this their way of being sarcastic?
23:04Oh, to that report of we're going to show Stiney –
23:07Like, that's quite embarrassing or admitting to something.
23:11I don't know.
23:12Yeah.
23:13Why does it bug you so much if it wasn't real?
23:16Well, because these things –
23:17Like, they take on a life of their own.
23:20And the truth hurts.
23:21Like, if my wife goes to me and says,
23:23Oh, my –
23:23You haven't exercised in, like, two weeks.
23:25Okay.
23:25I'm going to go on a 14-mile hike tomorrow.
23:28And so you do that.
23:29You come back.
23:29You're like, yeah, I just did a three-and-a-half-hour hike.
23:31So there you go.
23:33Exercise.
23:34Boom.
23:34Boosh.
23:35And that's kind of what the Giants are doing, I think.
23:38I can't remember a year like this one, but I've –
23:43You know, I've got a bad memory.
23:44Mom.
23:45Last year, 81 wins feels like 100.
23:48Oh, my gosh.
23:48I want to run Melvin out of town.
23:50And I want to test your memory, Stiney, before you go.
23:53Monte Ellis, 2005 draft, was a second-round pick.
23:57Two picks ahead of Chris Taft, who the Warriors also took.
24:00Who did the Warriors take in the first round?
24:03Mike Diagu.
24:04Boom.
24:05Stiney for the win.
24:08Monte was 40 that year, right?
24:10He was the 40th pick.
24:12Your memory is fascinating.
24:14Yeah.
24:15I guess your memory is fine.
24:16Birthdays, Valentine's, and the Giants.
24:18Mine's on Saturdays.
24:19Oh, is it?
24:20Shop early.
24:21Get there early.
24:22It's birthday week.
24:23All right.
24:24All right, guys.
24:25Well, have a great weekend.
24:28We'll be tuned in.
24:29We'll have a lot of time.
24:30The 95.7 of the game.
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