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The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
The Ingraham Angle 9/15/25 FULL END SHOW | BREAKING NEWS TODAY September 15, 2025
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00:00Good evening, everyone. I'm Laura Ingram. This is the Ingram Angle from Washington tonight.
00:04My angle and moments. But first, it was me. Those were the words Tyler Robinson used to make his online confession that he was the guy who killed Charlie Kirk.
00:15According to The Washington Post, the details are stunning. Here with more is Fox News national correspondent Matt Finn. Matt.
00:22Go, go, go.
00:52It was me at UVU yesterday. I'm sorry for all of this.
00:56That message was reportedly sent Thursday night, about two hours before the shooter was taken into custody.
01:00The confessional message aligns with what Utah police said last week, that the alleged killer made some type of confession to family and friends.
01:07TMZ is reporting new video appears to show the alleged killer walking to campus a few hours before the assassination,
01:13wearing a maroon T-shirt and shorts, which police say the shooter wore to the school before changing into a black shirt.
01:18Yesterday, a man was arrested in Phoenix for stomping through Charlie Kirk's memorial outside Turning Point, USA, destroying vases, balloons and flowers.
01:27And as a simple observation, it appears that the man that desecrated Kirk's memorial may have been wearing the same logo on his shirt that Kirk's alleged assassin was wearing here when he shot and killed the conservative influencer in Utah.
01:42So make of that what you will, Laura. All right, Matt, thank you very much.
01:47Here with me exclusively is U.S. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.
01:51Todd, it's good to see you as always. Can you confirm this report from The Washington Post that that is what this Tyler Robinson said online to his colleagues?
02:00We're going as we'll call them. We're going through a ton of evidence.
02:04It is extraordinarily dangerous when there's leaks like this as we go through literally mountains and mountains of evidence.
02:11So I saw the report in The Washington Post. I can tell you that Director Patel, the local law enforcement, ATF, the marshals are working 24 seven on every angle.
02:22And I think it would be a disservice to them for me to, you know, spill the guts on what we know before we have a complete picture.
02:29So that information got out somehow and it would be odd, I think, if it if it got out from one of the characters he was discussing this with.
02:40So it leaked from somewhere. Are you guys concerned about other leaks here?
02:43Yes, absolutely. Of course, we're concerned about leaks.
02:45We've been concerned about leaks from the beginning because it affects the work that we're trying to do.
02:50So Director Patel and the deputy director today, Bongino, talked about how this investigation is ongoing and that shouldn't surprise you.
02:58It shouldn't surprise any American that that we're going through.
03:01We want to make sure that anybody that was involved, if anybody else was involved, is brought to justice.
03:06And so this systematic leak that happened to The Washington Post, I'm not going to confirm or deny that, except to say that you better believe that every FBI agent.
03:15And like I said, not just FBI, the state and locals, ATF and the marshals are doing everything that we can to to to make sure that we get all the evidence that we can.
03:23Who's leading the investigation? Because you have state authorities, you have the FBI involved.
03:28The feds are obviously a really important role here. But it's confusing to me and watching this.
03:34Who's actually in charge? Look, Director Patel was on the ground almost from the first hours after after this assassination took place.
03:43We're working very closely with the local law enforcement. And so when when you say a leading, which is a totally fair question, we're working this together, including the Department of Justice.
03:53So we're helping with search warrants, subpoenas, processing the evidence, the firearm and looking for fingerprints, looking for DNA.
04:01And and but but on the other hand, the the feds are not the ones that have charged him.
04:06The state has. And so we're obviously we're not interested in who's leading and who's going to get an award at the end for being in charge.
04:13We're interested in justice for Charlie. And so so we're working together.
04:17Had you met Charlie Kirk before? Yes, of course. Yes, I saw him just a few weeks ago in the Oval Office with the president.
04:24I saw him at the White House constantly. He was so full of life and so encouraging to to me and the work that we're doing.
04:31We're doing the Department of Justice and and offered advice and all smart advice.
04:35I saw him meet with the president. He offered smart advice to the president as well.
04:40He was it's personal for all of us. It's it's obviously the rule of law and justice must be done.
04:46But it's it's personal to a lot of Americans who feel like they knew him, even if they didn't.
04:50When will we see federal charges? Well, it depends on if there's a federal charge.
04:54So, look, the federal charge. There's not that many murder charges that are federal.
04:57Very and very few. And so, look, they're stalking.
05:00There's there's certain there's certain deprivation of rights charges that we that we possibly could bring.
05:06But that goes after going through all the evidence and trying to understand what would this man's motivation was in doing what he did.
05:13And if there's a federal charge, we will bring it.
05:16No doubt about it. No doubt about it.
05:18But if there's not a federal charge, we're going to do everything we can to support Utah and make sure that that that they need everything.
05:25They that they that they get everything they need from us.
05:28CNN is criticizing the FBI's handling of all this.
05:32Watch. FBI Director Cash Patel's unusual approach here in this Charlie Kirk case, fueling questions about his leadership.
05:41The fear is that this does affect the prosecution of this case.
05:45If you are his attorney, you will raise these questions.
05:49And a judge could very well raise the question of whether this damages the fairness of any trial that could go for this suspect.
05:58They have not made any conclusions as to the motivations behind this.
06:01But Cash Patel and the president of the United States, of course, have already ascribed this to left wing ideology.
06:09So that's the point. I mean, they're saying and the correspondent is saying, look, that's that's out there.
06:15That was the import of the federal presence in Utah.
06:18So that's already colored the case. And to that, you say I'd say it's ridiculous.
06:23I mean, nobody should be surprised that CNN is being critical of anything this administration does.
06:28But that being said, Director Patel, why did we catch this man?
06:33We caught this man because that's exactly right.
06:37And why was his photo? Why was his photo plastered everywhere?
06:39Because of the work of the FBI and local law enforcement.
06:42Why was the video released? Because Director Patel was there getting it done.
06:47If he wasn't there, CNN would have the same report and said, shocker, Direct Patel wasn't there.
06:52But are you guys worried that he's not cooperating, it looks like, the suspect, that in trial he's going to say the whole case was prejudiced because the feds came in, swooped down, and there was no way I was going to get an unbiased jury poll.
07:06I mean, I can just see that's the kind of claim he's going to make.
07:08Sure. I mean, listen, that's something that we'll deal with.
07:10Of course there was an all-out manhunt to find this man, like there is in other cases similar to this.
07:17And, yes, he will have a lawyer that can make a motion at the right time if he so chooses.
07:22But, no, that's not something that I'm worried about even a little bit.
07:24The use of interstate commerce or the Internet to make threats, hint at threats, communicate online, perhaps from different states to Utah, in kind of a group chat, would that implicate federal charges?
07:38We could. That's the stalking we talked about.
07:40So, absolutely.
07:41So, if we, as we go through the physical evidence and the forensic evidence that we've recovered from him and from his home, that's what we're looking at, is do we have enough to make a federal charge?
07:52But just to be clear, President Trump said it today, we are supporting the Utah system to bring justice to Charlie.
08:01And if we can bring federal charges, we will.
08:03But if we can't, we're not losing sleep over that.
08:06We're just going to do everything we can to make sure that the Utah prosecutors have everything that they need to continue the work that they're doing on this case.
08:13But Cash also said that the suspect left a note and paraphrased it earlier today saying, I have the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk.
08:21I'm going to do it.
08:21The note was apparently destroyed.
08:24What more can you tell us?
08:25That's, you know, that's something that's part of the investigation.
08:28And that happens in investigations like this where there's evidence that maybe you learn about later that doesn't exist anymore.
08:36To whom was that written?
08:37Do you know?
08:38Look, we're still looking into the circumstances that was written and destroyed.
08:43And there may be more to come on that.
08:46But, look, we have a lot of evidence.
08:49And I don't say that to appear to you to be overconfident.
08:54I say that to you to hopefully let folks take a breath and let us go through that evidence.
08:59There's some leaks today about Discord.
09:01There's some leaks today about what the...
09:04Something big is coming.
09:05We heard about those messages on Discord.
09:08That's right.
09:08And there's also about what the family has done or not done, what his roommate has said or not said.
09:13And I know that you, I know that I want people to know what that information is.
09:19And we're all kind of thirsty for that to help us get closure.
09:22But what I would say is that the more time that we can do our work behind the scenes,
09:27the better we're all going to be when this case, when we're finished investigating this case.
09:31Todd, I think what a lot of people are fearful of is that there is an undisclosed network of people
09:39burrowed into the dark reaches of the Internet who are plotting against Americans with whom they disagree politically,
09:45who are in the public eye, who are especially out, especially on college campuses,
09:49are giving speeches and so forth, Congress people, senators.
09:53Obviously, the FBI takes care of President Trump, we hope.
09:56But this is aiding and abetting a network of violent political extremists, and in this case, left-wing extremists.
10:05What can you tell to Americans tonight who are concerned about that, given what we're hearing?
10:11I think what I would say to you and to the American people is we share those concerns,
10:15we meaning the Department of Justice.
10:17And so we're doing everything we can to investigate not only this incident with Charlie
10:22and what we know about what happened here as it relates to anybody else that's involved,
10:27but also more generally.
10:29We're, of course, always going to be worried about larger groups.
10:33The president talked about it today in the Oval Office about some of these funded organizations
10:38that are protected behind either NGOs or nonprofits, but they're really just acting.
10:44They're really just criminal organizations.
10:45How high could this go? How high could this investigation go?
10:47I mean, we will see, but they have money.
10:50So money doesn't grow on trees, so they're funded.
10:52They're well-funded.
10:53And so that's what we're looking at.
10:55And I don't have anything to report to you tonight about anybody getting handcuffed.
11:00But I will say I'm motivated, the Department of Justice is motivated, Director Patel is motivated
11:04to get to the bottom of this.
11:06Well, always balancing, of course, free speech rights and not surveilling Americans
11:10who have no threat of terrorism or probable cause to commit an act of domestic terrorism.
11:16Todd, thank you very much.
11:17It is a lot of fast-paced information coming out.
11:20Those leaks are tough.
11:21Thank you very much.
11:22All right, if you've had a good night's sleep since Wednesday when Charlie was assassinated,
11:27lucky you.
11:28But over the weekend, the most common phrase I heard was, I still can't believe it.
11:33People feel emotionally wasted, and still they can't believe he's gone.
11:38An act of domestic terrorism by an angry leftist, what it looks like,
11:43hatched in the assassination culture that Charlie warned about last spring.
11:47The author of the study by the Network Contagion Research Institute, or NCRI,
11:53found a growing acceptance and belief that violence was necessary to defeat political adversaries.
11:59He didn't work alone on the Internet because it seems that he became radicalized on the Internet.
12:05Smart guy, great boards, great marks, great student.
12:09And then something happened to him over a fairly short period of time.
12:15It looks like he was radicalized over the Internet, and it's radicalized on the left.
12:19He's a left.
12:20I have a lot of problems with the left, and they get protected, and they shouldn't be protected.
12:26Here to respond is Tom Kirsting, psychotherapist.
12:29Tom, the dark Internet culture, you know, radicalizing our youth.
12:37People describe it as Marxist-Leninist, anarchist, neo-anarchist.
12:43And the left will say it's neo-fascist.
12:45What is going on that Americans who blithely are going about their business every day don't know?
12:51Yeah, I mean, these social media platforms, Laura, are like the perfect platforms to indoctrinate people,
12:59to control people's thoughts, to manipulate people, to fuel anger, to fuel discord,
13:06and unfortunately to lead to events like what happened to Charlie Kirk.
13:11Well, Thomas, the signs that people, parents, family members, friends should look for
13:18when someone close to them seems to be changing, you know, oddly changing,
13:24in what may be considered a path toward radicalization.
13:28What are some of those signs?
13:31You know, when you have somebody, you see a total change in their behavior.
13:35They become reclusive.
13:37They're removed from family members.
13:39They're spitting things out that are inconsistent with what they normally spoke about.
13:43There's signs of anger, of frustration, of potential violence.
13:49Just a change in that individual's behavior.
13:52In fact, I was on, I forget what show I was on last week,
13:55but, you know, you hear about the whole gun debate, right?
13:58And, you know, we have the Second Amendment, great.
14:00And, you know, I thought of something, you know, with background checks.
14:04What if somebody was to go purchase, you know, going to purchase a gun,
14:07if they had a social media background check?
14:10Because you could be darn sure that somewhere on their social media footprint,
14:14there are plenty of warning signs that would scream that person shouldn't have a gun.
14:19That's a hard one to put into effect, I think.
14:22A lot to balance there, Tommy.
14:24I'm not sure about that one, but I get your point.
14:27I mean, when it's saying something big is going to happen and, you know,
14:30I hope he does, I mean, that's something different.
14:32But I don't think with the way people view government control right now,
14:36they're going to go for that or a court of law.
14:39But it's not just the dark web, though.
14:41It's, as you said, the sickness that is in social media today
14:47and the way so many, especially young men, are retreating behind closed doors,
14:53closing their doors, and creating and living in,
14:56and rather than going out and living their lives, are living an imaginary life,
15:00affirmed in their views, or seeking affirmation from others.
15:03If you might speak to that, please.
15:07So let's put it this way.
15:08So the average person, particularly young people,
15:11spend around eight or nine hours a day immersed in a screen.
15:14So that's more than any other life activity, including sleep and work.
15:18And the way the mind works is it doesn't matter where you are.
15:21Whatever your mind is immersed in, gradually at a subconscious level,
15:25your mind is going to actualize that.
15:27It's going to normalize that.
15:28And if violence, anger, and murder are part of that repertoire,
15:33then that's going to trigger something in that person to lead to an action like that.
15:36So what we need to do when I do lectures, Laura, I speak to schools and children.
15:40I help parents.
15:41I see this with teenagers and middle schoolers.
15:43They're spending literally almost all their time by themselves in their bedrooms
15:46when they are at home.
15:48We've got to get them out of the bedroom.
15:49Bed starts with, is for sleep.
15:51Get them back into the family room.
15:52A hundred percent agree.
15:55And I've been preaching this for years.
15:57Not always perfect in our home, but we do police this pretty well.
16:01Tom, thank you very much.
16:04The catalyst.
16:05That's the focus of tonight's angle.
16:09We've covered a lot of dark moments in American political life in the almost eight years now
16:15that this show has been on the air.
16:16Charlie Kirk's life came to a brutal, abrupt, violent end because a radicalized societal misfit
16:28was threatened by ideas.
16:30He was threatened by Charlie's inspiring young people.
16:34He was threatened by Charlie's unwavering faith.
16:36And yet, since last Wednesday night, we're seeing something extraordinary.
16:42Rather than collapsing into fear, Charlie's supporters are carrying on with conviction,
16:48led by the woman who was Charlie's rock, his widow.
16:51They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love.
17:00If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before,
17:06you have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country.
17:10That was Erica's powerful rebuke to political hatred and violence,
17:14one of the best I've ever heard.
17:16By silencing Charlie's voice, his assassin only amplified the message.
17:21Isn't that funny how that worked?
17:23Rather than extinguishing a fire, one was lit.
17:26And millions of Americans, especially young Americans,
17:29will consider this a watershed moment for politics and for faith,
17:32one where the left finally revealed its true, ugly, vicious self.
17:37Across America, in cities and small towns, young people are chanting his name.
17:43They know his name.
17:45And tributes are pouring in.
17:47Now, not all NFL teams honor Charlie Kirk, but most did, including the Jets.
17:52Charlie Kirk was one light in this world that will not be extinguished.
18:02And others decided to honor him in their own ways.
18:05In London, a huge rally took time out to honor Charlie Kirk.
18:22And the deputy prime minister of Italy, Matteo Salvini, chimed in,
18:25telling a local paper in Italy that he will speak at schools and universities
18:30to talk to people who disagree with him, just like Charlie did.
18:34Because even they see it.
18:36This is a cultural turning point, not just a political one.
18:41Their message?
18:42Be not afraid.
18:43Be bold.
18:44Declare your faith if you have faith.
18:46Also, your political views.
18:48Speak them boldly.
18:50But understandably, many are also afraid tonight.
18:53The threats are real.
18:54I will not be doing any outdoor events anytime soon.
18:58I have pro-tranny protesters at my offices protesting every week.
19:04I like going outside in the heat and offering them food and water
19:07and having a conversation that is peaceful.
19:11I'm not able to do that right now.
19:14Well, Nancy Mace is not alone.
19:16I know many who are canceling events.
19:18And they're staying inside.
19:19They're pulling back.
19:20And let me say this.
19:21Look, we should always be smart, be situationally aware,
19:24boost security, screenings.
19:26That's just common sense.
19:27But to all of you watching right now,
19:29here's what I want to say directly.
19:32They want you scared.
19:33They want you silent.
19:35They want you obedient.
19:37They want you to use Charlie's assassination
19:39to just keep the rest of you in line.
19:43But here's the truth.
19:45You don't win a cultural battle by hiding.
19:47You don't reclaim a country from your living room.
19:51Our founders didn't run from risk.
19:53Our soldiers don't.
19:54Our police officers certainly don't.
19:56And Charlie Kirk didn't.
19:58This moment is not a time for panic.
20:01It's a time for clarity.
20:03This may have been the end of Charlie's earthly mission,
20:06but ours continues.
20:08And that's the angle.
20:09Here with us is legendary NASCAR team owner Richard Childress,
20:13chairman and CEO of Childress Racing.
20:16He worked with drivers like Dale Earnhardt, Kevin Harvick.
20:20Richard, it is such a pleasure to see you tonight.
20:22And all of your drivers paid tribute to Charlie this weekend
20:27with a decal on their cars.
20:29Why was this important for you all to do?
20:33Because, number one, Charlie, he loved this country.
20:37He loved God.
20:38He loved his family.
20:40And I met Charlie probably 10 years ago at a fundraiser.
20:43I was in Washington, D.C. when this senseless, senseless murder happened.
20:49And I asked a friend of mine, Johnny Morris, with Bass Pro Shops.
20:53I said, Johnny, I want to put a tribute to Charlie on the car.
20:57He said, take some of our stuff off and put it on her.
21:00It's so important for us to be able to honor our great friend and a great American patriot.
21:07Did you ever think you'd be in a place in time, in the United States of America, Richard,
21:12where someone who's a 31-year-old young man with a family going around just talking with people on a college campus
21:21would get shot in the throat and basically assassinated on live stream?
21:27Do you ever think that was the country you lived in?
21:29Not at all.
21:31And some of the crazy stuff that you hear that these people come up with, I can't believe it.
21:38In my lifetime, I've never seen times like this in America.
21:42We've got the greatest country on earth.
21:44If you've ever been to other countries, especially communist countries, you'll understand what you have.
21:50The one thing they hate us for is we have one thing they don't, and that is freedom.
21:54And the First Amendment, which is supposed to mean something,
21:59and you're supposed to be able to speak your mind without getting harassed, attacked,
22:04smashed in the face, whether it's a pie or something deadly.
22:09And I think there are a lot of people tonight who are thinking, thank God for NASCAR,
22:16but this is spreading elsewhere.
22:18People are now saying, this is real.
22:20If they didn't get it, would Trump being shot at twice or attempted assassinations, two of them?
22:27I certainly hope people get it now.
22:29And Richard, your message to all those young people out there who are feeling demoralized,
22:35but also energized by this growing movement of young people of faith and patriotism.
22:41What's your message?
22:42I think as Charlie's wife said, this is just going to make his message stronger.
22:48And I couldn't believe in it more.
22:50I think that the young people that I know, my grandsons, other people believe in God
22:57and understand the relationship that Charlie had with the young people at the colleges and campuses.
23:03Sure, everybody didn't agree with him, but there's one thing, there's an old country song that goes back.
23:09You got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.
23:12Charlie Kirk, he stood for what he believed in, his family, God, and this country.
23:20And he was assassinated so senseless for such an unbelievable cause.
23:26Well, thank God for NASCAR.
23:28We love you, Richard.
23:29Thank you very much for joining us tonight and for honoring Charlie.
23:33Now, coming up, sick leftists messed around and they found out after dancing on Charlie Kirk's grave.
23:38A lot of those rage-filled sickos dominating the Democrat Party were beaming last week.
23:47The right had lost one of its most effective voices in Charlie Kirk.
23:52But the twisted glee extended to leftists and academia and in the health care industry, other sectors of the economy as well.
24:00So not only were they stoked at the Charlie news, but stupid enough to post about it.
24:05Well, the chickens are coming home to roost.
24:07Clemson University says two professors who celebrate his assassination have been removed from their teaching duties pending investigation.
24:15Texas is announcing that 100 teachers and staffers were terminated for similarly disgusting comments.
24:21Always goes big in Texas.
24:23And then there's this special ed teacher at an elementary school in Massachusetts.
24:27Don't you want that thing teaching your kids?
24:41Now, the school responded in a statement to Fox saying we do not condone violence or hateful behavior in any form.
24:46The employee is on leave from King Elementary School pending an internal review.
24:51Here with reaction, Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist and Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary, both Fox News contributors.
24:58Ari, the teachers and the professors, their comments, I have to say, are among the most loathsome because of their effect on young people that they teach.
25:12Your reaction tonight?
25:13Well, first, let me start with your angle and what Richard Childress said were beautiful.
25:21Here are the exact antidote to the horrible things that we're seeing on the worst of social media.
25:26Now, I do like to think that most people in America expressed horror at this murder, and I think that's exactly right.
25:31But this small group that is going online and saying what they're saying is just who could do that?
25:37Why?
25:38Who celebrates murder?
25:40I don't care.
25:40Left, right, center, non-political.
25:42It doesn't matter.
25:44No one with a soul should celebrate murder anytime, anywhere for anybody to think that they will go out and promote it like that.
25:53So if they're getting fired, that's up to their employer.
25:56I never recommend anybody to fire anybody.
25:59That's between an employer and an employee, and maybe they were just one isolated incident, but they're getting what they deserve.
26:06Molly, the fact is this has been normalized and accepted and encouraged, so that's why they thought they could mess around and find out, to put it nicely.
26:16Well, we've had many years now of a lot of corporate media and even prominent Democrats saying that they could not normalize Republicans.
26:24They couldn't normalize Donald Trump.
26:25He was subhuman.
26:26Right, and you had President Biden give that really awful speech where he declared half of the country was beneath contempt.
26:35Really bad behavior that has led people to think that it was okay to do this.
26:40There are many reasons why you cannot tolerate public support for the assassination of a citizen.
26:45How is this not cancel culture, then, Molly?
26:47People say it's cancel culture, which usually refers to when a teenager tweeted something, and then 10 years later he gets fired, or someone makes a joke that's misunderstood, something like that.
26:57Public support for the assassination of U.S. citizens for their political beliefs is actually just, on its face, immoral.
27:06You cannot tolerate that.
27:08There are also all sorts of other reasons.
27:09Shows an inability to control oneself that employers really aren't going to want to see in teachers, doctors.
27:16Obviously, no member of the military can support the assassination of conservatives because they don't like their political beliefs.
27:24That is a total violation of their oath.
27:26So, I think, actually, it's important that people understand that things have gone way too far, and there needs to be a correction.
27:32And I do think most of the country is unified against this left-wing terrorism.
27:36But I would say this.
27:38I think you're right.
27:39However, Ari, and I want you in on this.
27:42I do believe that there is a core group of hateful, well-connected individuals who are extremely influential, who behind closed doors.
27:53I can't imagine what they'd say behind closed doors.
27:56But in public, they were celebrating this.
27:59And I don't think we should sweep it under the rug and just say, oh, it's just they're popping off.
28:03It's a, you know, I'm not saying you were doing that at all.
28:05But I'm just saying this is a sickness that has been encouraged and fed by our culture and our highest-ranking politicians.
28:15That core group is led by Democratic leaders, and that's the problem.
28:19They didn't come out and advocate or endorse murder, but what they did do is call Donald Trump a fascist.
28:25When asked point blank, Kamala Harris said he is a fascist, her vice presidential running mate said the same thing.
28:32Joe Biden said he's an existential threat to democracy.
28:36These are the types of things that politicians say that has got to stop.
28:41Molly, is it going to stop?
28:42Well, I think a really important first step would be for the media to acknowledge that Donald Trump is a legitimate president,
28:47that his supporters are legitimate.
28:50And I actually don't think it stops, though, unless the power of the state is used to deconstruct these left-wing terror networks,
28:57look into their funding.
28:58I mean, I was pleased to see that that's happening, but people need to take it seriously before things get much worse.
29:03Dissemble them one by one.
29:05Molly, Ari, thank you.
29:07And coming up, country music stars paying tribute to Charlie Kirk.
29:10Country singer Gavin Adcock is here next.
29:12Americans still gathering at vigils across the country tonight to mourn Charlie Kirk.
29:20And over the last few days, as I mentioned in The Angle, his life was celebrated by everyone from sports teams to country music stars like Gavin Adcock.
29:30Adcock ended his show in Independence, Missouri, this way.
29:33The man you just saw with us now, Gavin Adcock.
29:55Gavin, thanks for joining us tonight.
29:57That was a great moment.
29:59What inspired you to do that?
30:01Well, when I found out the news the day before, I had four shows lined up that weekend.
30:09And it was sitting really heavy on the heart to even go play those shows after something like that happens.
30:16And I think my fan base sits right at the age group and the mindset of where Charlie's fan base sits.
30:25And it was great to honor him all weekend.
30:28It wasn't just at that first show.
30:30It was every show this weekend.
30:31They were chanting Charlie Kirk.
30:33And for all the people, the hateful people out there, the groups that thought that would quiet Charlie Kirk, you just awoken millions of other people that are not scared to die.
30:49If you live in the life of the Lord and believe in Jesus, you shouldn't be scared to leave this world.
30:57And Charlie Kirk was a great example of that.
31:01Did you watch him regularly or listen to his podcast regularly?
31:05I was seeing him on social media all the time.
31:11I mean, it was it was every day I was seeing him debate somebody over just being moral and being a good person.
31:19And just he had a voice and he expressed it, which I can really appreciate because I'm one of the most outspoken artists in all of music.
31:28And that's not something I can be bought out from or I'll ever change.
31:32So I can really appreciate that.
31:35Gavin, I love that because having spent a lot of time in Nashville, everyone thinks Nashville is so conservative.
31:41Nashville is totally liberal, hooked up with so many folks from L.A.
31:46And it's like I know a lot of people in the music industry, great people.
31:50I mean, the session the session musicians tend to be, in my view, more conservative.
31:54But the people putting together the deals there, I mean, come on, they're very liberal.
31:59So but you've clearly touched a nerve politically before this.
32:04So are you worried at all about being targeted yourself?
32:10Not really.
32:11I'm just living my life, playing my shows and being a good person.
32:16If I if I get targeted and go down, there'll be there'll be people raise up louder.
32:21And just proud to be an American, proud to be a Jesus.
32:27And I brought a Bible verse I wanted to read for y'all.
32:31Yeah, I put it up.
32:33I put it up at the shows this weekend before we went on and honored Charlie and 9-11.
32:39Psalms 9710.
32:42You who love the Lord hate evil.
32:45He protects the lives of the godly and rescues them from the power of the wicked.
32:51Hmm.
32:53Beautiful.
32:54A lot of people are going back to the Bible.
32:56Don't you think, Gavin, after what happened last week, people maybe been away from it for a while,
33:00maybe never opened their Bible or opening their Bibles?
33:04What about I'm going to tell you, I live.
33:08I don't live a perfect life, but my life is best when I'm spending time with God and opening the Bible and going to church and actively praying.
33:19And it's just there's a difference between living in sin and living in salvation.
33:23It's a lot better.
33:26Well, Gavin, Zach Bryan was going to join this interview as well, but I decided to kick him off the show before.
33:33I'm just kidding.
33:34I'm just going to kick him off the show before he came out.
33:37I don't know if he'd have the same views as you and me.
33:41I'm not really sure.
33:43I have no idea.
33:45But make sure the fences are higher next time at the events.
33:48The fences have to be a lot higher.
33:50Gavin, I'm just teasing you, man.
33:52Hey, come on.
33:53You guys are all good.
33:54Come back soon.
33:56I'm going to come to one of your shows, too.
33:58So I'm going to get that information.
33:59I'm going to show up and I have some cool Cabo hats.
34:02I'm going to come.
34:03Sounds good.
34:04You're welcome.
34:05Anytime.
34:05Thank you all so much.
34:07All right, Gavin.
34:07Take care.
34:08And coming up, we watch the Emmys, so you didn't have to.
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