00:00Senator Barrasso there was very clear.
00:02He says he's concerned about the public's health
00:05because of what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has done with the health agencies.
00:08Do you share his concern?
00:10Well, I think he's concerned about the American people's health as a whole.
00:13I mean, if you go back to when CDC was stood up,
00:15which was 1946, July 1st, 1946, which would have been 79 years ago,
00:22there was only 3% of the country that had chronic illness.
00:26Today, we're over 76%.
00:27Senator Barrasso is a doctor.
00:30He's questioning science, which used to, it was okay to question science.
00:34Now you can't.
00:35To even question Bobby Kennedy and say,
00:37hey, are we sure we're moving in the right direction?
00:38There's nothing wrong with asking questions.
00:41It's when you start accusing him of being unethical
00:45or you're starting accusing him of sabotage
00:47or you're starting accusing him of being an anti-vaxxer
00:49or something like that.
00:50But to question science,
00:52all Senator Barrasso was doing was questioning science,
00:55and he's a doctor and he should do this.
00:56You're saying that Barrasso there was questioning science?
00:59I mean, I heard him-
00:59He's questioning the statistics as a whole.
01:01I mean, why are we the sickest nation in the world?
01:04Casey, we should be asking that question.
01:06What is wrong with saying,
01:07okay, if in 1950, we were at 3% chronic illness,
01:11today we're at 76,
01:12in 1950, we were one of the healthiest nations,
01:16today we're the sickest nation in the world,
01:20where has CDC succeeded?
01:23Because the definition of insanity
01:25is doing the same thing, expecting different results.
01:28What Bobby is doing, or Secretary Kennedy is doing,
01:30is he's going in there and he's questioning things,
01:32saying, hey, we need to look at every aspect.
01:35There isn't anything that should be unlooked at.
01:38Just because it's science,
01:40and we think it's proven science,
01:42science is always changing.
01:43So I want to pull apart,
01:44I take your point about chronic diseases,
01:46and it's very clear that there are a lot of Americans
01:48in the world that are concerned about things like
01:50food dyes and pesticides and all the things-
01:52Let's talk about autism.
01:53I mean, autism is running rampant.
01:54So I want to pull all of the chronic stuff
01:57apart from trust in vaccines,
02:00because if the kids at my kid's school
02:02don't get vaccinated for the measles,
02:04the chances that my kid is going to get measles go up, right?
02:07So that affects all of us.
02:09And it was very clear today
02:10that we saw Secretary Kennedy
02:12questioning these vaccines.
02:14That was the heart of what Barrasso was saying.
02:16It was the heart of what other Republicans
02:18have been focused on.
02:19Do you think Secretary Kennedy
02:21is in the right place on vaccines?
02:23I absolutely do.
02:24By questioning vaccines without questioning.
02:26I'm a father of six.
02:28All my kids are vaccinated.
02:29But to question it,
02:31when you start looking at statistics,
02:33what was it, one in 10,000 kids
02:35when we first started tracking autism
02:38was diagnosed as autistic.
02:42Today, it's one in 10.
02:45But why are you looking at the vaccines?
02:47I'm not.
02:47I'm saying, why wouldn't we look at it?
02:49What's changed?
02:50What we need to do is look at-
02:51We have looked at it.
02:52And there has been-
02:52So we shouldn't look at it again?
02:54And the study showed there was no connection
02:57between the MMR vaccine and autism.
02:59There was a retracted study.
03:01Well, there's different ingredients
03:04than just one or two things inside vaccinations.
03:08There's several things that go into every vaccine.
03:10And look at how many shots we were giving our kids.
03:12When my first son was born 21 years ago
03:15versus to what my 14-year-old daughter
03:17has to get now for school
03:18is greatly different.
03:20And that was just a short period of time.
03:22We're increasing the number of vaccines
03:24we're giving to the kids,
03:25and we're increasing chronic illness.
03:27We're increasing autism.
03:28But how do you know that that's connected?
03:31We don't, but why wouldn't we look into it?
03:33Well, why would-
03:34So what's wrong, Casey?
03:35What's wrong with questioning it?
03:36Why should we question it?
03:38As a parent, I know you're a parent, I'm a parent.
03:40Why wouldn't we question it?
03:41What is wrong with Bobby questioning
03:44what the CDC is doing?
03:46Because it's not working right now.
03:48Well, he's in charge,
03:48and he controls access for many Americans
03:51because what the CDC says and does
03:53with its vaccine schedule affects insurance.
03:56It already has taken away choice
03:57for people who want to get the COVID vaccine
03:59at their local CVS in over a dozen states.
04:02How is that giving people more choices
04:04and allowing them to question more effectively?
04:06If anybody wants a COVID vaccine,
04:07they can go get it.
04:08They may not be able to get it
04:09at every pharmacy they walk into,
04:11but you know and I know they can get it.
04:13It's offered in every state.
04:14It's offered in every city.
04:15It may not be offered in every town,
04:17like my town of Westville.
04:18I'm sure it's not offered in that town
04:19because we, I mean, we don't have a hospital.
04:22We don't have a national pharmacy.
04:24We have a hometown drugstore.
04:26So, but it's available,
04:28and it's relatively available.
04:29So for people to say
04:30that it's not available at CBS anymore,
04:31that has nothing to do with Bobby.
04:32But the issue being that
04:34the CDC resignations came
04:36because according to the now-ousted CDC director
04:39who was appointed by President Trump,
04:41she was asked to accept vaccine recommendations
04:43around the children's vaccine schedule
04:44that she didn't want to accept.
04:46And that schedule is something
04:47that affects every American
04:48and what they're able to do.
04:50Are you comfortable with the way
04:52that that board has changed
04:53considering what Ms. Menoran says?
04:55Absolutely correct.
04:56I mean, I absolutely am.
04:56Here's what, here's what I know about business,
04:59and I'll take it CDC as a business for just a second,
05:02because we all make decisions based on two things.
05:04The way we're raised in our life experiences,
05:05business is my life.
05:07I know that you need a hire right,
05:08you need a fire right.
05:09And everybody you hire
05:10isn't actually the right person.
05:11Sometimes you got to fire that person too.
05:13And if they're not working with your direction
05:18that you're wanting to move,
05:19either in that organization
05:20or they were part of the organization
05:21before you got there,
05:22sometimes they just don't belong anymore.
05:24And when you have a felling business,
05:25if you take over a company,
05:26you have a felling business,
05:28not everybody's going to be successful
05:29that works there
05:30because it was felling for a reason.
05:32CDC has been felling.
05:33We know that.
05:34By just looking at statistics
05:35of where we were in 1950
05:36to where we are today
05:37with chronic illness alone,
05:39we know it's felling.
05:40So there has to be changes made.
05:42And what Secretary Kennedy is doing,
05:44and he is questioning science
05:45and he's bringing in change.
05:47We should be thankful
05:49that this administration
05:50is trying to change the healthness
05:52of the American people.
05:55When we look at where we are today
05:57as far as being the sickest nation
05:59in the world,
06:01we have to make changes.
06:03And it's becoming a national security risk.
06:05Think about this.
06:06Only two,
06:08what is it?
06:09Eight out of ten kids today
06:11aren't eligible to serve
06:14within DOD,
06:17meaning they're not qualified
06:18to even go through boot camp.
06:20So only two out of ten kids
06:22can actually pass the exam.
06:23You don't have any vaccines
06:23that are required
06:24to join the United States
06:25in the military, though?
06:25I'm well aware of it.
06:26Well aware of it.
06:27Of course you are.
06:28And I mean, look,
06:28in your home state of Oklahoma,
06:30tetanus, polio, MMR,
06:31hep A, hep B, chickenpox,
06:32kids have to have all these
06:34to go to school.
06:36And if there are kids
06:38that don't get this regime,
06:40the other kids around them
06:41are more likely to get sick.
06:42No?
06:43How many vaccines
06:43are we giving out today?
06:45To our children?
06:46Yeah, to our children.
06:46Well, if you listen to...
06:47All the way through
06:48before they go to school, college.
06:49Well, I think that the...
06:51What RFK's answer would be
06:52is about 76.
06:54But the way that that obscures,
06:56it's the number of shots
06:57for several of these...
06:58And what was it in 1980?
06:59Sir, I don't know
07:02because I didn't vaccinate kids
07:03in 1980.
07:04I'm doing it now,
07:04so I know the vaccine's going to now.
07:06So just use your number of 76
07:08and let's go back
07:09to just use another number of 7
07:10because it was under 10 in 1980.
07:11And I would just like
07:12to clarify that 76 is misleading.
07:15It is used by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
07:16but it counts up the number of times
07:17there are, say, three courses
07:20for MMR, right?
07:21You need three shots over years
07:22to get vaccinated for MMR.
07:23So when you count them all up,
07:24it's 76, but it's misleading
07:25because the number of diseases
07:26that you're vaccinating against
07:27is closer to 20.
07:28Okay, well, let's just use
07:30is it being effective?
07:32Because if we have 76...
07:33Well, my kid has not had any...
07:34But if we're looking at 76%
07:36of the population now
07:37has chronic illness,
07:38one out of...
07:39or two out of...
07:40one out of every 10 kids
07:41today have autism.
07:42What is it...
07:43What you're doing is making a connection...
07:43Are we healthier as a nation
07:44or are we not?
07:45But why is that about vaccines?
07:46We don't know
07:47what's about vaccines.
07:48What we're saying is
07:48what Bobby's doing
07:49is questioning science.
07:51But you're taking...
07:51Used to it was okay
07:52to question science.
07:53You're going to risk kids
07:53dying of measles?
07:54We're not going to die...
07:55We're not taking the risk of measles.
07:56We're not anti...
07:58More kids have died
07:59of measles in this country
08:00this year than,
08:01you know, in decades.
08:02Well, if you want to get into that,
08:03we can talk about
08:04the open to southern border
08:05and what caused that.
08:06Because you had an inflation
08:07over 20 million people
08:09that came over illegally
08:10underneath the Biden administration
08:11that wasn't vaccinated.
08:12We're not talking about measles,
08:14outbreaks from kids
08:16that were born and raised
08:17here inside the United States.
08:18We're talking about ones
08:19that were brought over here illegally.
08:20And you can make that connection.
08:22And there's no...
08:22And no one can argue that.
08:24Okay.
08:25Well, sir, I think we actually
08:26are probably out of time here.
08:28Although there were
08:29a number of other things
08:30I'd like to ask you about.
08:31And I know you wanted to talk
08:32about one thing in particular,
08:33which is this backlog...
08:34Sure, sure.
08:35I'll go wherever you want to go.
08:35Are you sure?
08:36Okay.
08:36Whatever.
08:37They were very specific.
08:39But I must ask this question.
08:39Casey, I'm on your time.
08:42All right.
08:42Well, in that case,
08:43I want to say thank you very much
08:44for doing this.
08:45I appreciate it.
08:46I hope you'll come back.
08:47Absolutely.
08:47I appreciate the back and forth always.
08:49Yes.
08:49All right.
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