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'When Were You Lying?': Tina Smith Confronts RFK Jr. Over His Conflicting Statements On Vaccines
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At today's Senate Finance Committee hearing, Sen. Tina Smith (D-MN) grilled HHS Sec. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Thank you, Mr. Tillis. We now have Senator Smith. You're recognized.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Kennedy, I have sat here for the last many minutes and listened
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carefully to your testimony. And I think, actually, Senator Tillis laid out so many of the ways that
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what you have said has contradicted yourself and others. It's, I mean, I don't even know
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where to start. So I'm going to start here. Over the last eight months, you have claimed
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to make America healthy again. But in actual fact, you have led the charge in the Trump
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administration to destroy what is best in our health care system. And your denials and your
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evasion and your lies here do not change that. You are the secretary of the Health and Human
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Services. Yet you're trafficking in these fringe idea and discredited theories that are completely
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out of step with the scientific consensus. And you seem to be willing to say anything
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in the moment, even if it's untrue. So last time you were before Congress, Secretary Kennedy,
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you claimed, and I quote, I have never been anti-vax. I have never told the public to avoid
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a vaccination. But in a podcast, you said the opposite. You said there's no vaccine that
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is safe and effective. So that sure sounds anti-vax to me, Secretary Kennedy. So let me ask
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you, when were you lying, sir? When you told this committee that you were not anti-vax? Or when you
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told Americans that there's no safe and effective vaccine?
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Uh, both things are true.
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Oh, so. More denial, more back and forth. I mean, here's what I know. Here's what I know.
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Do you want me to explain why, Senator? You, you just want to-
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No, actually, I want you to listen to me.
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Okay, go ahead.
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I want you to listen to me.
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Because I've been listening to you. You said that ACIP is an independent panel after you
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stocked it with your picks. You said that you want evidence-based science, but it seems that
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what you mean is evidence that supports your view, not the scientific consensus. I mean,
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you dared to sit there and call my colleague from New Hampshire a liar when she presented
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you with facts that don't support your view of the world. It's incredible.
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But let's-
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But let's-
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But let's-
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But let's-
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