Zolak and Bertrand react to what the national media is saying about the Patriots ahead of the 2025 season.
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00:00We're talking about all these national guys that are talking up the Patriots.
00:03Still, even after this preseason, even after whatever you want to read
00:08or read into with this team, Nick Wright is a clip we played yesterday.
00:12He's got them making the playoffs.
00:15Nick Wright has them in.
00:17He's a negative Nellie.
00:18He is.
00:19It said it pained him to say it, but that the Patriots are in.
00:22Chris Sims is talking about how eight and a half being the over-under,
00:26you need to pound the over, that it's like an automatic for the Patriots.
00:30He is very, very high on them.
00:34Now we've got the pro football focus show, the PFF show, also giving them high marks,
00:41also saying at least eight wins or more.
00:44We're giving them a projected win total of eight.
00:47How do you feel about the Patriots heading into this season, Dalton?
00:49And then we'll sort of dig into some biggest strengths and weaknesses for the team.
00:52I think you're right.
00:53Bullish is the word.
00:53They've had a spectacular offseason, right?
00:55You've got a credible head coach in there who's had a lot of success in Tennessee
00:59and knows the culture in New England well.
01:00You've got a better offensive line with guys like Will Campbell and Morgan Moses signed.
01:05They brought in Garrett Bradbury to play center.
01:07They still have Cole Strange, who only played two games last year, right?
01:11The weapons and the speed on offense and the ability to separate on the outside is a lot better
01:15with Diggs and obviously Travion Henderson, the speed he brings, Kyle Williams on the outside as a draft.
01:21I mean, I just think this team in general and then the way they've built this defense,
01:25I'm really bullish on this defense, Trevor.
01:27You look at our unit rankings, and I know they were 24th in defensive grade last year,
01:31but you look at everything they added, especially in free agency.
01:34We have them down coming into the year as the 13th best defensive line,
01:38the third best linebacker unit, and the fifth best secondary.
01:40I really think this defense has top 10 potential and is going to keep them in a lot of games.
01:45It's starting to feel like now, and obviously, again, the offensive line is young,
01:48especially Will Campbell at left tackle, but I really think Drake May now becomes the X factor.
01:53They've got a solid running back room, especially with Travion Henderson
01:55and the speed they have back there.
01:57Now he's looked great in the preseason.
01:58I think Drake May is the X factor, and as long as he develops the way he's supposed to,
02:02this team is going to be a whole lot better than last year.
02:04They lead with two things.
02:07They lead with the coach.
02:09They lead with the quarterback when they're talking about this team,
02:12and then they start throwing out names.
02:16Cole Strange.
02:17He got cut.
02:18He's not here anymore.
02:18Kyle Williams.
02:19We have no idea what he is.
02:21If the team believed in him and he had a great camp,
02:22they wouldn't be keeping eight receivers.
02:24Bradbury is a huge question.
02:25Bradbury at center, a massive question mark.
02:27Morgan Moses hasn't played a snap in the preseason.
02:30I was saying when you were talking about the receivers, the eight receivers,
02:33I was listing them in my brain, and I forgot about Kyle Williams.
02:37Because he hasn't made an impression.
02:39Really good or bad.
02:40There's nothing bad that I can say about him.
02:43That might be worse.
02:49I don't think that people realize that some of these things that went on in the
02:54offseason are question marks.
02:57Like Morgan Moses and Bradbury are still question marks.
02:59I expect Morgan Moses to be better than Bradbury.
03:02What's up?
03:03Are Spice Girls back?
03:04No.
03:06No, they're not.
03:07Okay.
03:08Is this going to be now?
03:10We're going from getting man a load to...
03:14Spiced?
03:15Spiced?
03:17I even know what song.
03:18Isn't that awful?
03:19I know what song that is.
03:20You do?
03:21I know what song.
03:22Sing it.
03:22It's like giving you everything.
03:27All the joy.
03:28I know my Spice Girls.
03:29They had like three songs.
03:30Yeah, this was a monster hit.
03:31This was a song.
03:32This was a big song.
03:33Loosen up your buttons.
03:34What was the other?
03:35If you want to be my...
03:37I know that one and this one.
03:39Was there a third?
03:40Was there a third Spice Girls?
03:42I don't know what's that.
03:42We're three.
03:44Let's see.
03:44I'll go for it.
03:45Spice up your life.
03:45Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
03:48That's three.
03:49Spice up your life.
03:49That's three.
03:50I got three.
03:51That's three.
03:53Want to be.
03:54That's a third.
03:54I already named that.
03:55And then this one.
03:56It's giving you everything.
03:59We're getting...
03:59This is what it is now.
04:00We talk negative about the pads.
04:02We're getting spiced.
04:03He's spicing us now.
04:05You see this, McCone?
04:06He's creating diversions.
04:08Oh, yeah.
04:10This isn't the song the video's for.
04:12Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.
04:13I don't know any of these lyrics.
04:16Catchy pop songs.
04:18Spice Girls.
04:29Thank you very much.
04:35It's a bad song.
04:37Loosen up my buttons.
04:37What do you mean it's a bad song?
04:38Loosen up my buttons.
04:39That's not them.
04:40Loosen up my buttons is not them.
04:41Same thing.
04:42No, it is the same thing.
04:43Same thing.
04:45Woman band.
04:48I really enjoyed seeing Mel B when she was on America's Got Talent.
04:53Yeah.
04:53You want to talk about someone still throwing heat?
04:56Is she?
04:56Oh, yeah.
04:57That's good for Mel.
04:58Heat.
04:59Mm-hmm.
05:00Yeah, it didn't hurt that they put together a band.
05:02They were like, find like five gorgeous women, throw them in a group together and have
05:05them sing pop songs.
05:06That'll work.
05:07Yeah, that will work.
05:08It works.
05:08That'll work.
05:09That'll be a thing.
05:10So you want this to be the new sound instead of Copacabana?
05:12Let's hear it.
05:14Copacabana has such a perfect thing to it, though.
05:18We didn't need like...
05:19I mean, that's a...
05:22I might do that more.
05:23That's a good one, too.
05:24That's a good song.
05:25Spice Girls could be a good one.
05:28You got Spiced.
05:29I got Spiced.
05:31Man-a-load or Spiced.
05:32The thing that's on that monitor up there is MTV Classic that's running up there.
05:37They just throw retro videos on all day long.
05:40Okay.
05:41They're not back.
05:42I thought they were back.
05:42That's an old video.
05:43Just to bring it back, though, to the Patriots conversation.
05:47Overrated.
05:47They're overrated nationally.
05:49They're getting way too much credit.
05:51Because the way that everyone's talking about them is that if everything goes right...
05:55Well, there's a lot of assumptions that everything is going right for them.
05:58I agree.
06:00I think it's the schedule.
06:01They definitely lead the league in optimism.
06:04People don't respect the schedule.
06:06They don't.
06:06They respect them.
06:07They're giving them a ton of respect.
06:08Right.
06:08So the Patriots cannot wear that chip on their shoulder about how no one's giving them respect.
06:13Oh, yeah.
06:13I think this might be the most respect they've received in a position like this ever.
06:18I think it's the most respect a 4-4 team in back-to-back years has ever gotten.
06:22Yeah.
06:24A 4-win team.
06:25Two years in a row.
06:26Vibes are high, man.
06:27I was saying pound the over.
06:28Pound the over.
06:29Like...
06:30It's crazy.
06:34And I think Volan had this point yesterday, and I think Felger read it.
06:37It's taking it on for 31 years that four teams that didn't make the playoffs always make the playoffs the next year.
06:42That's crazy in the league.
06:44That's insane.
06:45Is that used as a positive for the Patriots or a negative?
06:47I think so.
06:48That'd be a positive.
06:48Like...
06:49Yes.
06:49Okay, they didn't make the positive.
06:50They didn't make the positive.
06:51He has high expectations.
06:52He does.
06:53Okay.
06:53Wow.
06:54Well, they're going to need 10 wins.
06:58They're going to need 10.
06:59I had some numbers on that yesterday.
07:01I meant to share them.
07:03Apparently...
07:03And I'm going to just take my word for it for now.
07:06I'll get the data to back it up.
07:07But approximately 70% of the playoff teams, since they went to this format with 7, had 10 wins or more.
07:15Okay.
07:15So you've...
07:16So you've got to get double digits.
07:17You've got to get to 10.
07:18There are teams that have made it with 9, but about 70% of the teams have needed 10 wins.
07:25All this commentary only reaffirms my take that is 9 wins has to be the floor.
07:33No.
07:34Yes, it does.
07:36To be a borderline playoff team, yes.
07:39They do.
07:41You think 8 wins is disappointing?
07:42All the talk around this team, the week schedule, the money spent in free agency, the home runs in the draft, the new coach, the quarterback in his next year, 9 wins has to be the lowest bar.
07:54I think he does make a good argument because the best teams that spend the most money in free agency typically in their first year can get 5 wins out of it.
08:02Like, there are teams, there are plenty of examples.
08:04We've gone over those.
08:05You can get to 5 more wins.
08:07And if you think last year's team was better than 4 wins, but had such horrendous coaching...
08:133 wins.
08:13It's really 3 wins.
08:15You know, that last Buffalo win.
08:16I don't think they were better than the 4 wins they had.
08:18I don't.
08:19I think they were a terrible team.
08:21So, I'm not one of those.
08:22But I know a lot of people do.
08:23A lot of people say, hey, they could have had more wins if they had better coaching.
08:27And it's...
08:28I mean, they had horrific coaching.
08:30So, it's a solid argument.
08:32They had the coaching that they had, though.
08:34I think their roster and their coach...
08:37That was a 4-win team.
08:39So, with better coaching, is that worth a win?
08:42Probably.
08:42It's probably worth a win.
08:45And then with your roster upgrades, can you add 4 more?
08:49To get to 9 in your math.
08:52And you have an easy schedule, as we've pointed out.
08:58If you get to...
08:58If they get to 8 wins and Drake May looks like a really good quarterback, I don't think there's
09:03going to be people calling for heads to roll and talk about what a disappointment that season
09:08was.
09:08I don't think that's going to happen.
09:10What if...
09:11Here's...
09:11I think 6 wins, yes.
09:13Here's what I fear.
09:14We watch the team get to 8 wins and we feel like Drake May's not been put in a good position.
09:19And feel like whatever they're doing isn't working.
09:23And that we feel like the talent on the roster could have been 10 wins.
09:25Could have been 11 wins.
09:26As you have them at Still McCone.
09:28Yeah.
09:28Coming down off that at all?
09:29That's normal.
09:29No, I can't do it.
09:31You can do it.
09:31You're allowed to change your total.
09:33Sticking.
09:34Sticking.
09:3511.
09:35Does Rabel on this team last year flip any of those games?
09:38Yes.
09:39Yes, he does.
09:39100%.
09:40We just talked about the second game.
09:42The second game against Seattle.
09:43Seattle, Indy.
09:45Yep.
09:45Yep.
09:47Tennessee is a 6-win team.
09:48Tennessee.
09:49Yeah.
09:50You're already at 6.
09:51You're already at 7.
09:53In the playoffs.
09:54Last year, playoff team.
09:55Yeah.
09:55I might go for it.
09:56You're knocking off Kansas City.
09:5712.
09:58Yeah, 12.
09:59Logan Ryan, in addition to his former teammate, Devin McCourty, saying the Patriots are a playoff team,
10:05he says, I think the Patriots are the most exciting team in football this year.
10:09Talking to the globe.
10:10I think they got the right man at coach.
10:12They have a quarterback coming off a good rookie year with good talent around them.
10:17They have, in my opinion, a top five defense in the NFL.
10:20Definitely a top five secondary.
10:21I think the sky's the limit.
10:27Sky's the limit.
10:28I'm not the sky's the limit yet.
10:31Can you name 10 teams off the top of your head that are more exciting
10:34than the Patriots?
10:35Yes.
10:36I can.
10:38Can you?
10:39I don't know.
10:40Let's try it.
10:42Buffalo.
10:43Yes.
10:43Kansas City.
10:44Yes.
10:44Baltimore.
10:45Yes.
10:45Cincinnati.
10:46Yes.
10:47Chargers.
10:48Philadelphia.
10:48Chargers.
10:49Philadelphia.
10:49Lions.
10:50Commandments.
10:52Vikings.
10:55How many do we have so far?
10:57I don't know.
10:57Let's go division by division.
10:59Okay.
11:00The Bills?
11:00Yes.
11:01Yes.
11:01The Dolphins.
11:02No.
11:02No.
11:03The Jets.
11:04No.
11:05Broncos?
11:07He already named them.
11:08Zoe said the Broncos are more exciting.
11:09Broncos, Chiefs.
11:10Yes.
11:11I thought you weren't a Bo Nix guy.
11:14I'm not a Bo Nix guy.
11:15I'm a Sean Payton guy.
11:16I'm into him building the right type of team.
11:19That's what I'm into.
11:20Raiders.
11:20I'm excited.
11:21I'm not excited.
11:22Raiders, no.
11:23I'm interested in that team to see what Sean Payton can.
11:26Yeah.
11:26What will Bo Nix's ceiling be with Sean Payton?
11:29Because I think Bo Nix is already exceeding expectations.
11:32He already did.
11:33So, how many weapons can you name on that team?
11:37Courtland Sutton.
11:38That's it.
11:39Period.
11:40All right.
11:40Keep going.
11:42Raiders.
11:42No.
11:43Yes.
11:44Yes.
11:44Yes.
11:45Yes.
11:45Yes.
11:45Tom Brady.
11:46Absolutely.
11:48Pete Carroll.
11:49And I know that you said that they don't have offensive talent.
11:54They brought back Amari Cooper, which is interesting.
11:57106.
11:58He's 100 years old.
12:00But they do have Ashton Gentty.
12:02They have Gentty and Bowers.
12:03And they have Bowers.
12:04They have Tim McCone's lookalike, but he shaved his head.
12:07So, that's different.
12:07We don't know if he did.
12:08Did he?
12:09Was that AI?
12:10It might have been.
12:11It might have been.
12:12He doesn't look great.
12:13I mean, it doesn't look great.
12:15What are you trying to say over there?
12:17I'm just saying in person.
12:18Tim McCone.
12:19He'd be on a list.
12:20You'd say, hey, stay away from this guy.
12:22Come on.
12:23If you see this guy.
12:24Okay.
12:25Alert your neighborhood.
12:25All right.
12:25Ready?
12:26Let's do this.
12:28Patriots weapons or Raiders weapons?
12:30Again, Gentty, Myers, Cooper, Brock Bowers.
12:34All right.
12:34Game over.
12:35That's not game over.
12:36Because Geno Smith is in there as well.
12:38No, no.
12:39I didn't say offense.
12:40I said weapons.
12:42That things with a Z.
12:43Henderson.
12:44Sexy.
12:45Yep.
12:46Dig sexy.
12:48Hunter Henry.
12:48I'd take him over Bowers.
12:51Wait.
12:51I'd take Henderson over.
12:52Ashton Gentty.
12:53Ashton Gentty or Travion Henderson?
12:55Travion Henderson.
12:56More of a dynamic player.
12:58Guys.
12:59You'll see next week.
13:00Guys.
13:02You laugh over there.
13:03I'm not laughing.
13:03I'm with you.
13:04I'm trying to make the case.
13:07So.
13:08Gentty.
13:09Come on.
13:09Sixth overall pick in the draft.
13:12He's a stump.
13:14And he sucks now.
13:15No.
13:16He's a bust.
13:17And Travion Henderson is better.
13:19Yes.
13:20I mean, that might end up coming true.
13:22I never would rule that out.
13:23But I'm not declaring it on August 27th of the year the guy was drafted sixth overall.
13:28Oh.
13:29I'm not doing that.
13:30Okay.
13:32Way more exciting team.
13:33Way more exciting.
13:35Chargers, obviously.
13:38Yeah.
13:38Yes.
13:40Ravens, obviously.
13:41Bengals, obviously.
13:42Yes.
13:43Steelers.
13:44Steelers are an exciting team.
13:47Yeah.
13:48Browns.
13:49No.
13:50Not really.
13:51Can't go there.
13:51Come on.
13:52Texans.
13:53Yes.
13:54Yes.
13:56How are the Texans going to be more exciting than the Patriots?
13:58Is there going to be good?
13:59Nico Collins.
14:00They're going to win that division.
14:01Because CJ Stroud is an exciting young player.
14:03And he's done way more than Drake May.
14:07No doubt.
14:07He is.
14:08I'm just talking from an excited...
14:09If I'm flipping through, and I'm just an NFL fan, would I rather see year two Drake
14:15May or the Texans?
14:16Year two Drake May.
14:18I'm with you on that.
14:19Probably the Texans.
14:20I think average fans would rather watch CJ Stroud.
14:22You're probably right.
14:24Yep.
14:24Until like week four.
14:25I mean, they've won their division in back-to-back years.
14:28They'll probably do it again this year.
14:31They're going to win their division.
14:33What are we talking about?
14:35Colts?
14:36No.
14:37Jags?
14:38No.
14:39Although...
14:39I'm surprised he didn't stop there.
14:42Although...
14:43It's going to be a great building block kind of year there.
14:48With Liam.
14:50And with Gladstone.
14:51Glad pud.
14:52Okay.
14:54Gladstone.
14:54The Travis Hunter bump there.
14:55Kind of sexy.
14:56Oh, that's true.
14:57I mean, you do have that.
15:00I don't think they're going to be great.
15:02I think the Jaguars and Patriots will be neck and neck for which team will have a better record this year.
15:07They're both in that department.
15:09Okay.
15:09Go on.
15:10So, just in the AFC, they're fifth from the bottom.
15:13Yes.
15:14You want to go to the NFC now?
15:15Cowboys?
15:16Way more exciting.
15:18That bleep show.
15:20Especially if Joe Milton's in there.
15:22I don't think that's going to happen.
15:24The Giants?
15:24That's a joke.
15:25No.
15:26Eagles?
15:27Yes.
15:27Commanders?
15:28Commanders, yes.
15:29Cardinals?
15:30No.
15:31Rams?
15:33Yes.
15:33Tough one.
15:34Yes.
15:35They're always exciting.
15:36They used to have staff.
15:36Yeah, Devontae Adams now.
15:38Yeah.
15:38Yeah.
15:39Yeah, Rams.
15:4049ers.
15:41Yes.
15:41No.
15:42No.
15:42Too many injuries.
15:43Too many injuries.
15:44Brock Purdy.
15:45Boring.
15:46Boring, boring, boring.
15:47Christian McCaffrey.
15:50He'll get hurt.
15:53Thank you, Joe.
15:54Yeah.
15:54All right, go on.
15:55Henderson or McCaffrey?
15:56What are we doing here?
15:57No.
15:58He got married.
15:58He's got weak legs.
15:59Yeah.
16:00The Bears.
16:01Caleb Williams.
16:02Yes.
16:02That is exciting.
16:03I'm kind of interested to see what that looks like.
16:05And their coach.
16:06Yeah.
16:06And what's Johnson do there?
16:08Yes.
16:09The Lions.
16:10Yeah.
16:10Yes.
16:11Packers.
16:13No.
16:15No.
16:15I think they had issues at receiver.
16:18Jordan Love and the Packers.
16:19Well, now we're factoring quarterbacks.
16:21You said he wasn't allowed to.
16:23That was a different conversation.
16:24That was a weapons conversation.
16:25This is how they tilt the scales.
16:27We're not tilting the scales.
16:29This is how we're tilting the scales.
16:30The Vikings.
16:31I referenced the weapons of the Raiders because Zoe pooh-poohed them a few minutes ago.
16:36That's all.
16:37Yeah.
16:37But we're throwing out Geno Smith, the most boring quarterback in the NFL.
16:42Facts.
16:44All right.
16:45All right.
16:45So, you tell me what.
16:46You two.
16:47Tell me where they rank.
16:48Where do the Patriots rank an exciting factor in the league right now?
16:52Probably 21.
16:53Okay.
16:53Yeah.
16:54Fine.
16:54So, what are we arguing here?
16:57I'm not arguing.
16:58To say they're the most exciting team in football?
17:00That doesn't mean that you can't get to the most exciting team.
17:02No, but by the end of the year, they will be.
17:04They'll be up there.
17:05Yeah.
17:06If Drake May and Josh McDaniels are the pairing that some project them to be, like myself,
17:12they will rise very quickly.
17:15Here's a bold prediction.
17:16They will never be more exciting this year than they are right now.
17:20I don't think it's all that bold.
17:21They'll never have as positive of a review as what they're getting at this moment.
17:26This is insane.
17:28It's a good point.
17:29I do agree with that.
17:30There is no, like, well, let's wait and see.
17:32They could be decent, right?
17:33They're going to be better than they were.
17:35No, there's none of that.
17:37I mean, that's where I'm at.
17:38I feel like I'm the most negative guy in the room.
17:40Like, oh, they could get to eight wins and have a good year and have a good thing to build on.
17:45And that, to me, I think, will be the thing everybody's saying at the end, despite all the bullcrap they spewed in the month of August.
17:53And I'm keeping track of all the bullcrap.
17:55That's what I'm doing.
17:57Oh, most exciting team in football.
17:58Top five team.
17:59Get out of here.
18:00What are you talking about?
18:01I just keep going.
18:02And you know what?
18:02It's not fair.
18:03It's not fair to this team because it's not what their roster is, and it's not what their quarterback is yet, and he hasn't proven it yet.
18:10And I'm just, I'm not into throwing a party for the Patriots because they're going to be at a respectable level again.
18:19Just a respectable team that can go out and compete on Sundays when they've been dead ass crap for the last two years.
18:26Yeah, I just keep going back to, yeah, they'll have a good year if every single unanswered question breaks their way.
18:33I don't think that's true, though.
18:35Record-wise, everything has to break.
18:37Really, Drake May.
18:38For them to have that great record, a lot of stuff has to go their way.
18:42Offensive line.
18:44Weapons.
18:45Drake May.
18:47Coaching.
18:47If Drake May is a good quarterback, your floor is instantly raised.
18:51Like the people that are saying they're going to the playoffs.
18:53I need you to explain to me how that looks.
18:55How do they get there?
18:57How are they getting to the playoffs?
18:58How are they getting 10 or 11 wins?
19:00Drake May takes a year-two jump, and the defense is really good.
19:03And when they talk about the playoff conversation, too, it's always as the seventh seed.
19:10Yeah.
19:11Right.
19:11I don't think anyone's expecting them to knock off the Bills and the AFCs.
19:14So we're talking about them squeaking in.
19:15Yes.
19:16Yeah.
19:16Right.
19:19Welcome to the road.
19:19I don't get why that's a problem.
19:21Exciting.
19:21That's exciting.
19:22Well, and that's one person's thing about the excitement.
19:25It would be exciting.
19:25For them to be back in the playoffs.
19:27If Drake May takes a year-two jump, I don't know how that wouldn't be exciting for Patriots fans.
19:31If it looks like you have a franchise quarterback with the way that he plays.
19:35Yeah.
19:35It would be exciting.
19:38There's just a lot more questions than people are making it out to be.
19:41Is some of that going to be with his legs?
19:43I think it has to be.
19:43If he does that, he has a phenomenal year.
19:45You're going to be talking about a $55 million a year extension.
19:48Get ready for that talk.
19:49Because that's where it goes.
19:50Yeah, I think the legs have to be involved in that.
19:55Right?
19:56How many touchdowns do you think he's going to throw this year?
20:01I'd say between 27 and 31.
20:05Yeah.
20:05How many picks?
20:07Well, that's got to come down.
20:1012?
20:1010?
20:1210 to 12?
20:14Yeah.
20:15Yeah, it can't be 16 or more.
20:17Yeah, you can't throw one a game.
20:19Yeah.
20:21Unless you're Jameis Winston.
20:22Yeah.
20:24Can't have a 30-30 year.
20:25Tommy Cutlett's still out there, right?
20:27Yeah.
20:29I'm going to go 22 touchdowns, 13 picks.
20:34You don't like that?
20:35Yeah.
20:3522.
20:37That's like Geno Smith's year last year.
20:40No, no.
20:40It's actually Mac Jones, 2021.
20:43That's who it is.
20:45Is that a successful year?
20:46See what I did there?
20:47Everyone tells me how great 2020 was when 2021 was with McDaniels and Mac.
20:52So, I just gave you that.
20:54You don't like that, huh?
20:55No, I don't like that.
20:56That was good, though.
20:57Yeah, for Mac Jones, it was good.
20:58Yeah.
21:00In that period of time, that wasn't good?
21:02That was exciting.
21:03That was good.
21:03It was up 20.
21:04Right.
21:06I'll take that every day.
21:07I'll go 28 and 13.
21:0915 more touchdowns than picks.
21:11I'll take that.
21:1228 and 13, I think, is a successful year.
21:1328.
21:14Brady's had those years.
21:1528 puts me in the top 10.
21:16During Super Bowl runs.
21:16Yeah.
21:16Yeah.
21:19He's had those years.
21:20He's had those years.
21:20He's had those years.
21:21He's had those years.
21:23Yeah.
21:23They're the top 10.
21:24Yeah.
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