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00:00My question to you is, how did we fall so deeply in illusion, like the unreal thing, and how do we break out of it?
00:06When your entire inner structure is founded on a belief system, then how can you respect facts? Truth is gone, finished.
00:15This country very urgently needs to respect inquiry, to respect hard facts, and to put it very mildly, say two hoots to sentiment.
00:25But when emotions rule, truth is the first casualty.
00:29I came across when we were putting facts. The people which believed, they are secular, but offended very much. They are believing in faults.
00:37If you are hurt, it's your own fault. Who's responsible? Why did you believe? Why didn't you go and test?
00:43Testing is not a word very common with our people. The mandate of religion is freedom from belief, not a reinforcement of belief.
00:52But that was not happening then, and that is not happening now, and it's all very bad.
00:59Namaste Acharya Ji. Am I audible?
01:02Yes, you are. Welcome.
01:05Thank you for giving me this opportunity to ask my question.
01:09My question is from a recent debate in my college on like how our country is so hypocrite.
01:19We had two examples like secularism is promised, but there is a division and slaughter is banned, but we lead in beef production.
01:31My question to you is how did we fall so deeply in illusion, like the unreal thing, and how do we break out of it?
01:39Illusion is belief, is it not? When you see through illusion, then it is gone, right? Illusion stands only as long as you believe in it.
01:57There is something unreal, there is something unreal, but you take it as real, that is what you call as illusion, right?
02:04So belief, you see, is the culprit. When you glorify belief a lot, then illusion will lord,
02:26that's it. You lose a taste for facts. When your entire inner structure is founded on a belief system, then how can you respect facts?
02:45Truth is gone. Truth is gone, finished. The moment you start worshipping beliefs, truth is finished.
02:51That entire population will then live in self-reinforced illusion and deception.
03:07That entire population will become very very skilled at cheating itself.
03:16Because that's what belief essentially is. You are cheating yourself to begin with and later others. No?
03:29Instead of finding out, you are saying, no, no, no. Why take the trouble? Why go through the pain?
03:40I'll simply believe in something. And that's the, that's the thing with our country.
03:50We have worshipped belief so much. Goodness. Do you, what do you think is more important?
04:11the feeling about something or the fact of that thing? Fact.
04:19But we don't respect facts at all.
04:26We worship our feelings, no?
04:30You are talking to someone and the moment he says, you are hurting my sentiments, you withdraw, don't you?
04:38You will have to retreat.
04:41In fact, even the law says, that if you hurt public sentiment, then you can be booked.
04:58Now, public sentiment is most likely to be offended when you utter the facts.
05:03Utter facts and people will be hurt because they don't live in facts. They live in beliefs.
05:11Even the constitution says, that your fundamental rights are subject to public morality.
05:22That's the expression that the constitution uses.
05:25And public morality is founded more or less on their beliefs.
05:30This is moral. This is immoral. This is what we like. This is what should be permitted.
05:36So, all your fundamental rights
05:44stand in the shadow of the public belief system.
05:55That's the problem. Nothing else.
06:02This country very urgently needs to respect inquiry. To respect hard facts.
06:16And to put it very mildly, say two hoots to sentiment.
06:25Why should your sentiment be respected? Yes.
06:28If you come up with something truthful,
06:31I ought to respect that.
06:36He believes he is a Kangaroo.
06:38And I ought to offer respect to that. But why?
06:47No, but you cannot hurt the feelings of people.
06:51And then, you see, don't we love to declare, Indians are very emotional people.
06:56Do you see where that is coming from?
06:58That is coming from the great respect we have been told to accord to emotion.
07:07We are emotional for a reason. It offers benefit.
07:11The moment you display emotion, you get what you want.
07:16I tell you, I want a lot of money from you.
07:19You will question me. You will debate.
07:24Right? You will want to know the truth.
07:26You will want to inquire and explore.
07:30But instead of going through this long process of presenting and debating facts.
07:36If I tell you, give me money and I start weeping.
07:40And shedding huge tears.
07:42You are more likely to give me the money.
07:45And that's why we are a very emotional people.
07:47Because emotional serves a very very material purpose.
07:54But when emotions rule,
07:57truth is the first casualty.
08:04Somebody wants to do something stupid.
08:07He will simply say, you know, I am very emotional in this matter.
08:12Take that as a warning.
08:14The fellow is going to do something very stupid, very unethical.
08:20Even very evil.
08:22All kinds of evils are sanctioned in the name of feeling, belief, emotionality, sentiment, all these things.
08:35And if you question beliefs, then as we said, you can be tried, lynched, hanged, booked.
08:42Anybody can believe in anything.
08:55How does that become respectable?
08:57In fact, if you are believing, resorting to believe so much.
09:02Then your intelligence becomes disputable.
09:03You don't become respectable.
09:04We are supposed to know.
09:05Right?
09:06Because we are equipped to know.
09:07Why do I believe?
09:08Why should I believe?
09:09Why should I believe?
09:10I can know.
09:11But knowing requires effort and honesty.
09:12And you don't want to put in that effort.
09:15You don't want to be honest.
09:16So, you simply go for believing.
09:17As you sit on this planet, it is so easy to believe.
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10:15Yes, obviously, I am here and those are the stars up there.
10:28But it takes a lot to know that the sun is not going around the earth.
10:37The earth is going around the sun and that the earth is not the centre of the universe.
10:45Those stars are sometimes a million times bigger than the earth.
10:51And the earth is not stationary.
10:54The earth is going around at thousands of kilometers per second.
11:00Will you ever believe in this? No, you will never believe in this.
11:03This has to be known and you are a human being only because you can know.
11:06Even animals can believe.
11:10And whenever you want to hunt down an animal,
11:14you make it believe in some stupidity.
11:17Right?
11:20And it falls prey to its own stupidity and then you can hunt it.
11:26To be a believer,
11:30is to be hunted.
11:36But it's not so easy to hunt down a knower.
11:52When we were debating on this topic,
11:57I came across when we were putting facts like the slaughtering houses and the on-papers agreements,
12:07the people which believed they are secular got offended very much.
12:14Some of the beliefs were shattered I guess.
12:18They were like a bit angry or something.
12:22They were not accepting the fact that they are supporting that hypocrisy or they are believing in false.
12:32So, that's fine.
12:35You take belief as your truth.
12:37And when it will be challenged,
12:40or demolished,
12:42you will be hurt.
12:44But if you are hurt,
12:46it's your own fault.
12:48Why did you believe in something so fragile?
12:53Right?
12:54I believe there is boiling water in this.
13:02Hmm?
13:06And I want to use it for some reason.
13:10And when I come close,
13:13I discover it's freezing cold.
13:18I am hurt.
13:20Who is responsible?
13:23Why did you believe?
13:24Why didn't you go and test?
13:26But testing is not a word very,
13:29very common with our people.
13:32Our culture does not like this word very much.
13:36Testing, inquiry, questions.
13:39We don't dare to question.
13:48Instead submission and meek surrender
13:52is taught to us as a value.
13:55All kinds of authority figures are there.
14:00And you are supposed to just kneel down to them.
14:07Anything more on that?
14:10Now, from your example,
14:12I remember the theory of everything,
14:15wherein Aristotle proposed that
14:17the earth is circular,
14:20but the earth is center of the universe.
14:25Aristotle?
14:27Okay, proceed.
14:29I don't know.
14:31I might mistake that name.
14:33When you come with your question,
14:37some basic due preparation,
14:40no?
14:41That is needed.
14:42Right?
14:43Who are Aristotle?
14:45You are dragging him into this.
14:47Huh?
14:48Sorry.
14:49Sorry.
14:50The Copernicus scientists,
14:54who proposed that
14:56earth is not center of the earth,
14:59wherein sun is,
15:01sorry,
15:02earth is not the center of the universe.
15:04Sun is the center.
15:07But he too got,
15:08he was in fear of releasing his research in publicly.
15:14I would relate it to that.
15:18Yes, obviously,
15:19because popular religion at his place,
15:23in his time,
15:24was all founded on belief.
15:25It still is.
15:26Hmm?
15:27It was founded on belief about the individual and about the universe.
15:34First of all,
15:36whether the sun goes around the earth,
15:42or the earth goes around the sun,
15:46is none of religion's business.
15:48Religion is an inquiry into the self.
15:52Right?
15:54So, that's the first thing.
15:56Religion should have nothing to do with all these things.
15:59Leave it to science.
16:00Secondly,
16:02you are promoting belief.
16:05And religion's mandate is to demolish belief.
16:09Religion's mandate is to promote inquiry.
16:13But as your example physicists,
16:18that has never really been the case.
16:20First of all,
16:22religion gets into all kinds of worldly things.
16:26Who made the rivers?
16:29Which tree is sacred and which tree is not?
16:33What to wear?
16:34Where to sleep?
16:35Whom to marry?
16:36What to eat?
16:37Religion gets into all these things,
16:39which are none of religion's business.
16:41True religion is just an inquiry into the ego,
16:46the self.
16:47Who am I?
16:48That's religion.
16:50And secondly,
16:53the mandate of religion is freedom from belief,
16:58not a reinforcement of belief.
17:02But,
17:03that was not happening then and that is not happening now.
17:09And it's all,
17:14all very bad.
17:23Anything else?
17:24Thank you so much.
17:27Sorry.
17:29I stay in London,
17:31UK.
17:32And right now,
17:33I'm visiting India.
17:34This was my first session today.
17:35And,
17:36yeah,
17:38it was really,
17:39really nice to
17:42see firsthand,
17:43like,
17:44not a recording,
17:45because I've been following Acharya Ji for,
17:46what,
17:47two years now.
17:48And,
17:49uh,
17:50I've read his books.
17:51And,
17:52it was really lovely to see,
17:53understand life.
17:54Um,
17:55reflections,
17:56um,
17:57most beautiful thing I find about,
17:59about Acharya Ji,
18:00is how he gets into every single word,
18:02about,
18:03informing,
18:04the,
18:05definition of understanding.
18:07And,
18:08the thing he said is,
18:10when you,
18:11definition of understanding is,
18:13it ends desire.
18:14Once you break it,
18:15it automatically ends desire,
18:17because you see,
18:18the whole and soul part of it.
18:20Again,
18:21I'm a professional in terms of,
18:22I'm a,
18:23uh,
18:24diabetic coach,
18:25in,
18:26working in NHS.
18:27So,
18:28I keep telling this to everyone,
18:29where I say,
18:30you graduate step by step,
18:31graduate step by step.
18:33You know,
18:34you don't go from,
18:35zero goal to ten goal directly.
18:37And,
18:38he put it so simply,
18:40in,
18:41in terms of facing fear.
18:42And I was like,
18:43whew.
18:44I mean,
18:45so,
18:46amazing.
18:47I mean,
18:48these are a few reflections,
18:49that I got from him.
18:50And,
18:51yeah.
18:52I mean,
18:53his reflections,
18:54always stick with me.
18:55That's why,
18:56I implement them.
18:57I don't,
18:58kind of write them.
18:59I make voice notes for this.
19:00But,
19:01yeah,
19:02I'm very thankful for this session.
19:13what,
19:14the only thing is that,
19:15that I'm going to be Instead of talking to me.
19:16What old man do?
19:18To be...
19:19what old man do?
19:20What old man do?
19:22What old man do?
19:23That,
19:24what old man do?
19:25It's not,
19:26everybody.
19:27What old man do?
19:28What old man do?
19:29You can do again.
19:30I mean,
19:31I have no knowledge.
19:32I have no knowledge.
19:33You can do that.
19:34How old man.
19:35I can do.
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