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00:00And after seeing massive success in our nation's capital, President Trump is now looking to expand his crime crackdown in Chicago.
00:07But Democrat Mayor Brandon Johnson is pushing back. Listen.
00:10What this president is doing, he's declared a war on poor people.
00:15Picking on homeless people, you know, picking on the most vulnerable, that is not what the people of Chicago are going to stand for.
00:22We're not going to surrender our humanity to this tyrant.
00:24I can tell you this, the city of Chicago has a long history of standing up against tyranny.
00:30Resisting those who wish to undermine the interests of working people, we're not going to back down.
00:36Anthony Napolitano is a Chicago alderman and a former Chicago police officer.
00:42He joins me now. Thanks for getting up with us to talk about this.
00:44You know, if you were still on the force, would this be welcome news for you or do you think this is overreach?
00:49Oh, no, this would be absolutely welcomed.
00:51Our officers need as much help on the street as they could possibly get.
00:54I mean, if you look in the last six years, statistical facts always reign supreme.
00:58We got 19,600 people shot in the city of Chicago.
01:02Just this weekend alone, 19 people shot, four dead, one of them a five-year-old.
01:06So give us all the help we can get.
01:08I encourage, welcome, and I hope President Donald Trump sends some help to Chicago.
01:12We needed all the help we can get.
01:14Yeah, I think the NYPD and several of their officers are welcoming that news, too, that he said it was going to come next.
01:20You know, Pritzker said Trump is trying to manufacture a crisis.
01:23But when you read off those stats just now, it doesn't seem like this is manufactured at all.
01:27It seems like this is Chicago and their leadership not leading and doing anything about the problem.
01:34Yeah, without a doubt.
01:35And you know what?
01:36This has an economic reverb on it as well.
01:38I mean, not only are people scared to go on the streets, our businesses are afraid to open in Chicago as well.
01:43So there's a trickle-down effect.
01:45It's not just the crime and the fearful people to go out and walk around the city of Chicago.
01:50We can't even get businesses to come here anymore.
01:52Our Mag Mile has never seen so many vacancies.
01:55It's, you know, Chicago was the hub of, you know, central United States.
01:59People came here on their way from coast to coast, and now we're begging people to come back to Chicago.
02:05You know, you've responded to, I mean, there's no telling how many calls.
02:09You saw things firsthand.
02:10You spoke to the people of Chicago firsthand.
02:14When you hear this rhetoric that's coming from the Chicago mayor, it's coming from the governor,
02:20do you think this is really what the people of Chicago want?
02:24I mean, I know they vote these people in, but they can't want this.
02:28Surely they want crime to be at a minimum.
02:33Yeah, this is political agenda.
02:36This is when Chicago and our current administration always puts politics over people.
02:41They're following an agenda.
02:42Unfortunately, in Chicago, like in other cities, we have a socialist agenda that reigns supreme at the top of our administration
02:49and a couple of city council members as well.
02:52It's not what Chicagoans want.
02:53They want someone to step in.
02:55A lot of them, you know, when you go word to word on the street, they want the president to step in.
02:59They've seen what happened in Washington.
03:00We need that help here.
03:01And when I was on the street, we encouraged if we had state troopers to help us,
03:05if we had the county to step in to help us, you always encourage more people to step up and help you,
03:09especially when you have this big of a problem.
03:11Yeah, especially.
03:12I mean, you saturate the area with as many people as you can, and hopefully it deters more crime.
03:17You know, my question to you here, we talk about these liberal leaders of these cities coming down on Trump.
03:25Do you think there would be this much of a problem if it were reversed and it was somebody like Joe Biden or Barack Obama sending them in?
03:35No.
03:35You know what?
03:36They would all of a sudden cherish it.
03:37They would celebrate it.
03:39And it would be something that's, you know, like I said, it's always about party.
03:42It's never about people.
03:43And especially how that affects Chicago.
03:45This is just we have a poor administration right now.
03:48We need some change immediately.
03:49And people have to be put first.
03:52It's we're losing.
03:53I've been saying this for the last six years to administrations that have just destroyed Chicago.
03:57We need help.
03:58We need someone else to step in here and help us.
04:00We need someone to step up.
04:01We need to start pushing the wrong people out.
04:03And we have to get rid of this socialism in Chicago.
04:06It's not it's not the right effect that we have for a city like like ours.
04:10Right.
04:10Anthony Napolitano, thank you so much for your time this morning.
04:13We appreciate it.
04:15Another day, another promise kept.
04:17President Trump set to sign a pair of executive orders this morning, ending all cashless bail
04:23for suspects in D.C., while threatening to pull funding from no cash bail jurisdictions
04:28all across the country.
04:31Every place in the country where you have no cash bail is a disaster.
04:35That's what started the problem in New York.
04:37And they don't change it.
04:39They don't want to change it.
04:40That's what started it in Chicago.
04:43I mean, bad politicians started it.
04:45Bad leadership started it.
04:46But that was the one thing that's central.
04:49No cash bail.
04:50Somebody murders somebody and they're out on no cash bail before the day is out.
04:56We're going to end that.
04:59U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Pirro, joins us now.
05:03Judge, so explain to us why is this such an important thing and how is this EO going to
05:08actually work?
05:10Well, first of all, the president, and I just spoke to him, he will be signing this shortly.
05:15This is when all of the problems started.
05:18If you think about what has gone on in this country, it is when this movement started to
05:23reduce and eliminate cash bail that all the trouble started.
05:27So here in D.C., we've got defendants who are committing violent crimes who are being
05:31released out onto the streets.
05:33They are reoffending and they're reoffending again.
05:37And this is where the trouble begins.
05:39The public is not safe when violent criminals repeatedly prove to us that they are not a risk
05:45that we can tolerate anymore when they are not put in jail.
05:49And in the end, the president is recognizing as part of his make D.C. safe and beautiful
05:55that in order to do that, we've got to get the violent criminals off the street.
05:59And the president is literally transforming the safety landscape of Washington, D.C.
06:05And last night, we had another 10 guns removed from the street, another 86 arrests.
06:12We're up to 1,007 arrests, along with, I believe, 111 guns that have been removed from the street.
06:18What does that mean?
06:19They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people.
06:23And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer.
06:31They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them.
06:34D.C. was one of the most violent cities in the world.
06:38And but for President Trump coming in and bringing in our federal partners,
06:43the Marshals, ATF, FBI, DEA, Capitol Police, Park Police,
06:47we've got a unified force of people and law enforcement who are going into the crime-ridden areas
06:54and making a difference.
06:56And I'll tell you why it's making a difference.
06:58Today is the 12th day without a homicide in Washington, D.C.
07:02So far this year, we've had 101 homicides.
07:07But for the last 12 days, nothing.
07:10Yep.
07:10Policing works, Judge.
07:11It does.
07:12What about these two teenagers that have been released now?
07:16They were the ones that are charged for beating up that former Doge staffer.
07:20They were trying to carjack.
07:22What's the latest there?
07:23Why aren't they behind bars?
07:25Well, you know, it's what I've been talking about since I got here.
07:28The truth is that as the United States attorney, I am both a federal prosecutor and the local,
07:34like the local DA, these cases that involve those individuals who are 15 and younger, 12
07:40and 13, who assaulted the Doge staffer and his friend who was in a car trying to avoid
07:47being pulled out of the car.
07:49The two of them that were taken to family court where the purpose is rehabilitation had been
07:54released.
07:55What a shock.
07:56And therein lies the problem.
07:58We have got to lower the age of criminal responsibility in Washington, D.C.
08:03The gangs and the crews are 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 years old.
08:08I can't touch them.
08:10Ainsley, if someone shoots someone with a gun and they're 17 years old and that person
08:16does not die, I can't prosecute them.
08:19I can't get involved with them.
08:20It goes to family court.
08:22And you've got, you know, yoga and you've got ice cream socials and you've got rehabilitation.
08:26And you see it before you in a case of national interest, beating this Doge staffer to a pulp,
08:34a severe concussion, a broken nose, bloodied to hell and back.
08:37And what do they do?
08:38They let them out.
08:40So, and we got to see if that laws are going to change because I know you're frustrated,
08:44but who will change them?
08:46How do they get changed?
08:47Well, what the president is doing is the president is proving to the people in D.C.
08:53that it can be safe if these laws are enforced.
08:56And the president is moving along with all of us in Washington, all of the stakeholders
09:01to make those individuals accountable, even though there are of a lower age group and bring
09:08them into the criminal justice system.
09:10And let me just say that in addition to bringing him into the criminal justice system, we want
09:15to make sure that there are more judges on the benches.
09:18On the bench, the president is putting more judges on the bench.
09:22He is moving D.C.
09:23It was violent.
09:25It continues to be violent.
09:27But for what the president is doing.
09:29Yeah, let's real quick on Chicago.
09:31The week he reports that the president's going to move the National Guard into Chicago next.
09:36He's been planning for the last two weeks that the reports are correct.
09:39That got to Brandon Johnson, the terrible mayor there.
09:42Listen to his statement.
09:43The president has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to, what, arrest nine people in
09:50D.C.?
09:51You know, that is that clearly he's demonstrated that he doesn't have a level of consciousness
09:56to understand what it takes to run cities, not to mention an entire country.
10:01And so, you know, look, we're going to remain firm.
10:03We'll take legal action.
10:04But the people of this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny.
10:10And if that's necessary, I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm alongside
10:15of me as I work every single day to protect the people of this city.
10:19You know what my response to that is?
10:21You know what tyranny is?
10:24Tyranny is when you can't walk outside and go to dinner.
10:27Tyranny is when they shoot you and the person walks out of jail before you get out of the
10:31hospital.
10:32Tyranny is when people are not made accountable.
10:34And they should hope that the president comes in with this unified force.
10:38And his joking only nine arrests?
10:41I'll tell you what the good news is that this mayor can't figure out.
10:44The good news is that they're afraid to commit crimes.
10:47When you have an increased law enforcement, people in the community, especially the crime-ridden
10:52community, they're saying thank you.
10:54They're afraid to commit crimes because they know they'll be accountable.
10:58Johnson ought to hope that the president comes there to clean up the mess in Chicago.
11:02Well, if you want to see how his policies are working,
11:04look at Chicago.
11:06And Brian said his approval rating and one of the approval ratings was 6 percent.
11:11Yeah, he's got 6 percent approval.
11:13Another one, the high was 26 percent.
11:15So it's a very democratic city.
11:17So keep up the great work.
11:19So the other thing, just real quick, when it comes to cracking down on crime, if you come
11:26in with National Guard and the mayor doesn't want to work with you and it's not the jurisdiction
11:31of D.C., are they going to just be, are they just going to be spinning their wheels?
11:36There's not going to, where's going to be, where's the cooperation needed to get success
11:40in a city where they don't want them there?
11:42You know what?
11:43At that point, I'm not so sure that you need the cooperation.
11:47What you need is the ability to arrest criminals.
11:50And the president will make sure that he has all of the mechanisms in place to do that.
11:54And as long as you have a prosecutor who is willing to take those cases, as I am, to make
11:59the strongest cases you can in front of the courts and in front of the judges, we will
12:04make a difference in the quality of life, just as President Trump promised he would do.
12:08And he's doing it.
12:09All right, Judge.
12:10Thanks so much.
12:10Great to see you.
12:11Good to see you.
12:13Another day, another promise kept.
12:15President Trump set to sign a pair of executive orders this morning, ending all cashless bail for
12:22suspects in D.C., while threatening to pull funding from no-cash bail jurisdictions all
12:27across the country.
12:29Every place in the country where you have no-cash bail is a disaster.
12:33That's what started the problem in New York, and they don't change it.
12:37They don't want to change it.
12:38That's what started it in Chicago.
12:41I mean, bad politicians started it.
12:43Bad leadership started it.
12:45But that was the one thing that's central, no-cash bail.
12:48Somebody murders somebody and they're out on no-cash bail.
12:52Before the day is out.
12:54We're going to end that.
12:57U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Pirro, joins us now.
13:02Judge, so explain to us, why is this such an important thing, and how is this EO going
13:06to actually work?
13:08Well, first of all, the president, and I just spoke to him, he will be signing this shortly.
13:13This is when all of the problems started.
13:16If you think about what has gone on in this country, it is when this movement started
13:21to reduce and eliminate cash bail that all the trouble started.
13:25So here in D.C., we've got defendants who are committing violent crimes who are being
13:30released out onto the streets.
13:31They are re-offending, and they're re-offending again.
13:34And this is where the trouble begins.
13:37The public is not safe when violent criminals repeatedly prove to us that they are not a risk
13:43that we can tolerate anymore when they are not put in jail.
13:47And in the end, the president is recognizing as part of his make D.C. safe and beautiful
13:53that in order to do that, we've got to get the violent criminals off the street.
13:57And the president is literally transforming the safety landscape of Washington, D.C.
14:04And last night, we had another 10 guns removed from the street, another 86 arrests.
14:10We're up to 1,007 arrests, along with, I believe, 111 guns that have been removed from the street.
14:17What does that mean?
14:18They can't be used to shoot people, to kill people.
14:21And on top of all of that, we've got a government now where the people in D.C. are feeling safer.
14:29They know that there is a president who's looking to protect them.
14:33D.C. was one of the most violent cities in the world.
14:37And but for President Trump coming in and bringing in our federal partners, the Marshals, ATF, FBI,
14:43DEA, Capitol Police, Park Police, we've got a unified force of people and law enforcement
14:50who are going into the crime-ridden areas and making a difference.
14:54And I'll tell you why it's making a difference.
14:56Today is the 12th day without a homicide in Washington, D.C.
15:00So far this year, we've had 101 homicides.
15:05But for the last 12 days, nothing.
15:08Yep. Policing works, Judge.
15:10It does.
15:11What about these two teenagers that have been released now?
15:14They were the ones that are charged for beating up that former Doge staffer.
15:18They were trying to carjack.
15:20What's the latest there?
15:21Why aren't they behind bars?
15:23Well, you know, it's what I've been talking about since I got here.
15:26The truth is that as the United States attorney, I am both a federal prosecutor and the local
15:32like the local D.A.
15:34These cases that involve those individuals who are 15 and younger, 12 and 13, who assaulted
15:40the Doge staffer and his friend who was in a car trying to avoid being pulled out of the car.
15:47The two of them that were taken to family court where the purpose is rehabilitation had been
15:53released.
15:53What a shock.
15:55And therein lies the problem.
15:57We have got to lower the age of criminal responsibility in Washington, D.C.
16:01The gangs and the crews are 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 years old.
16:06I can't touch them.
16:08Ainsley, if someone shoots someone with a gun and they're 17 years old and that person
16:14does not die, I can't prosecute them.
16:17I can't get involved with them.
16:18It goes to family court.
16:20And you've got, you know, yoga and you've got ice cream socials and you've got rehabilitation.
16:24And you see it before you in a case of national interest.
16:29Beating this Doge staffer to a pulp, a severe concussion, a broken nose, bloodied to hell
16:35and back.
16:35And what do they do?
16:36They let them out.
16:38So and we got to see if that laws are going to change because I know you're frustrated,
16:42but who will change them?
16:44How do they get changed?
16:45Well, what the president is doing is the president is proving to the people in D.C.
16:51that it can be safe if these laws are enforced and the president is moving along with all
16:57of us in Washington, all of the stakeholders to make those individuals accountable, even
17:03though there are of a lower age group and bring them into the criminal justice system.
17:08And let me just say that in addition to bringing him into the criminal justice system, we want
17:13to make sure that there are more judges on the benches on the bench.
17:17The president is putting more judges on the bench.
17:20He is moving D.C.
17:22It was violent.
17:23It continues to be violent.
17:25But for what the president is doing.
17:28Yeah, let's real quick on Chicago.
17:30The week he reports that the president's going to move the National Guard into Chicago next.
17:34He's been planning for the last two weeks that the reports are correct.
17:37That got to Brandon Johnson, the terrible mayor there.
17:40Listen to his statement.
17:43The president has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to what, arrest nine people in D.C.?
17:49You know, that is that clearly he's demonstrated that he doesn't have a level of consciousness
17:55to understand what it takes to run cities, not to mention an entire country.
17:59And so, you know, look, we're going to remain firm.
18:01We'll take legal action.
18:03But the people of this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny.
18:08And if that's necessary, I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm alongside
18:13of me as I work every single day to protect the people of this city.
18:17You know what my response to that is?
18:20What?
18:20You know what tyranny is?
18:22Tyranny is when you can't walk outside and go to dinner.
18:25Tyranny is when they shoot you and the person walks out of jail before you get out of the
18:29hospital.
18:30Tyranny is when people are not made accountable.
18:32And they should hope that the president comes in with this unified force.
18:37And his joking only nine arrests?
18:39I'll tell you what the good news is that this mayor can't figure out.
18:42The good news is that they're afraid to commit crimes.
18:45When you have an increased law enforcement, people in the community, especially the crime
18:50ridden community, they're saying thank you.
18:52They're afraid to commit crimes because they know they'll be accountable.
18:56Johnson ought to hope that the president comes there to clean up the mess in Chicago.
19:00Well, if you want to see how his policies are working, look at Chicago.
19:05And Brian said his approval rating and one of the approval ratings was 6 percent.
19:10Yeah, he's got 6 percent approval.
19:11Another one, the high was 26 percent.
19:14So it's a very democratic city.
19:15So keep up the great work.
19:17So the other thing, just real quick, when it comes to cracking down on crime, if you come
19:25in with National Guard and the mayor doesn't want to work with you and it's not the jurisdiction
19:29of D.C., are they going to just be, are they just going to be spinning their wheels?
19:34There's not going to, where's going to be, where's the cooperation needed to get success
19:38in a city where they don't want them there?
19:41You know what?
19:41At that point, I'm not so sure that you need the cooperation.
19:45What you need is the ability to arrest criminals.
19:48And the president will make sure that he has all of the mechanisms in place to do that.
19:53And as long as you have a prosecutor who is willing to take those cases, as I am, to
19:58make the strongest cases you can in front of the courts and in front of the judges, we
20:02will make a difference in the quality of life, just as President Trump promised he would
20:06do.
20:07And he's doing it.
20:08All right, Judge.
20:08Thanks so much.
20:09Great to see you.
20:09Good to see you.
20:11Let's go ahead and bring in Karl Rove, former deputy chief of staff, to President George
20:14W. Bush.
20:15He's also a Fox News contributor.
20:18So, Karl, let's look at the political angle here on all this.
20:21There is obviously the data and statistics of crime in cities and states.
20:27But then there is the, I guess what Democrats would call the lived experience of Americans.
20:33And far and away, Americans who live in this country's largest cities say they feel unsafe,
20:40say they feel and experience an increase in crime, both petty and violent.
20:46Take a look at this.
20:47This is called for two.
20:49This from a CNN poll showed that Republicans beat Dems on crime by 13 points.
20:55This is back in May.
20:57When asked which political party's views are closer to your own on crime and policing, 40%
21:02say the Republican Party, just 27, say the Democrats.
21:08Yeah, pretty big gap there.
21:11And look, smart Democrats, think about the mayor of San Francisco, a business guy, moderate
21:17Democrat, ran as a law enforcement, pro-law enforcement Democrat, and got elected in one
21:23of the most liberal cities in America.
21:25And Democrats, if they were smart, would sort of mirror the approach of Bill Clinton, who
21:31in the run-up to the 1996 election realized the Democrats were on the soft side of the
21:36crime issue.
21:37And so he called for adding 500,000 new policemen across the country with federal support.
21:43So, you know, this is a problem.
21:45You're right.
21:46The lived experience of real people in their cities caused them to believe that things are
21:51more random, more violent, and more dangerous.
21:54And they're not made comfortable by things like cashless bail and soft-on crime prosecutors.
22:03I bring it up because, you know, the president in the Oval Office earlier this morning talked
22:07about the investigation that the Justice Department is now taking up to look at whether, you know,
22:14officials here in D.C. and law enforcement officers themselves have been inflating crime numbers.
22:19The point being, Carl, whether those statistics ultimately match up and reflect the way most
22:26people feel here in D.C. or not, they're going to vote in the election based on their experience.
22:33They're not going to vote based on what the data tells them.
22:36No state is this more true than New York.
22:39You have Kathy Hochul running for re-election.
22:42You have Mahmood Mamdani stepping in now, both doing some fancy footwork to try and distance
22:49themselves from defund the police stuff.
22:52Yeah, and the issue of cashless bail is going to become an issue in the governor's race.
22:59Congresswoman from upstate New York who's thinking about running for the Republican nomination
23:06to oppose Hochul, my former White House colleague, Elise Stefanik, is going to make this an issue.
23:12Now, she's put forward legislation which has no chance of getting past Congress.
23:17Remember, it requires 60 votes in the Senate, and that would mean you'd have to have a number
23:21of Democrats join with them in supporting a federal action to prohibit states from having
23:26cashless bail.
23:27But it's a nice political issue for her to use.
23:29She can say, I'm in favor of ending cashless bail, and Governor Hochul is not.
23:34And Elise is going to use that issue to her advantage in the governor's race and probably
23:38help drive up her numbers, not only in the outstate, but also in the city of New York,
23:44where this has had an adverse reaction among a lot of voters who are nominal Democrats.
23:50It's also not a new issue.
23:52I mean, President Trump talked about it during the first term, so people have had, you know,
23:56an awareness that this is bubbling up to the top of the heap.
24:00Carl, we've got to leave it there.
24:01Thank you for taking time with us.
24:02Appreciate it.
24:02All right, let's bring in Andy McCarthy.
24:04We'll get right to it, former federal prosecutor and Fox News contributor.
24:07Andy, President Trump effectively ordering the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, today to identify
24:14places in the United States that are still using cashless bail and to then identify them
24:20to him so that he can revoke their federal funding.
24:23This obviously, you know, teeing up another battle royale between the federal government
24:27and states.
24:27Well, I think, Julian, that it's a smart fight for him to pick politically.
24:33I don't think he's going to get very far with it legally because it's Congress that actually
24:39ends up making the laws, including for the District of Columbia.
24:44And it's Congress that sets the terms for funding to the states.
24:49So unless they've given the president a license or an avenue to cut off the funding on account
24:58of state procedural criminal rules, he'll probably have a tough time in court with that.
25:05And in some ways, Andy, appears to me anyway, to mirror the crime crackdown itself, sending
25:13in the National Guard, obviously, the immigration crackdown.
25:17This, again, kind of pits the president's prowess against, you know, standard practice and procedure.
25:25Yeah, it kind of goes subject by subject.
25:29I think you're right that we're in a constant sort of battle over separation of powers.
25:34But if, for example, you're talking about something like immigration law, there's no doubt that
25:40the president has the authority to dispatch whatever force he needs to in order to protect
25:46federal functions.
25:47And the courts have found that the immigration enforcement is a federal function.
25:52But when you're talking about things like cutting off funding, you're really on Congress's turf
25:58rather than the executive branches.
26:00And it's a much more it's a much tougher road to hoe.
26:04Critics of cash bail seem to be kind of focusing on this argument that it's discriminatory.
26:12It preferences people who are wealthier or can at least afford to pay to get out of jail.
26:19Is that a legal argument?
26:22Well, it's an argument that's gotten a long way with progressive legislatures throughout
26:27the country.
26:28I think it's a demagogic argument.
26:30The law in federal court, where we have people of all races who are prosecuted, is that if
26:37a court finds any condition or combination of conditions that can assure that a defendant
26:44will come back to his court proceedings or not threaten the public, then they can grant
26:51bail and there's a preference for granting bail.
26:53But there's no prohibition on putting a financial condition on it.
26:58And that's not driven by racism.
26:59It's driven by crime.
27:01So when you say you think the president is not likely to get far with this executive order,
27:07I mean, we know that EOs don't have the effect of law.
27:11But there are ways that Congress can step in to help him out.
27:17There are also things, you know, there's also things we're all aware of this from watching
27:21the ICE raids play out, that there is a lot sanctuary officials, sanctuary jurisdiction officials
27:28can do to hedge against the president's wishes.
27:32Yeah, it really depends, Jillian, on what kind of area we're talking about.
27:38So, for example, if you're talking about foreign affairs, the president has very broad power.
27:44If you're talking about domestic affairs, there's a division of authority between the federal
27:49government and the state government.
27:51When you're talking about the enforcement of law, when the Constitution was adopted originally,
27:59the thought was that most, if not all, law enforcement was going to be done at the state
28:05level.
28:06Now we obviously have much more federal law enforcement than we had back then.
28:11But the states are still deemed to be supreme with respect to the enforcement of criminal
28:17laws within their jurisdiction.
28:19So the extent to which the federal government can pressure them to adopt federal policies is
28:25minimal.
28:27All right.
28:27Well, Andy, thanks for taking a look at the legal component of this.
28:32Great to talk to you, as always.
28:38Hello, everyone.
28:39I'm Dana Perino, along with Emily Campagno, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Waters, and Tyra's.
28:44It's five o'clock in New York City, and this is The Five.
28:46President Trump turning up the heat on crime in D.C.
28:56And the numbers are speaking for themselves.
28:57So for the past 11 days, there has not been a single murder in our nation's capital.
29:03Police have racked up over a thousand arrests and 49 homeless encampments have been cleared.
29:08Now the president's looking to keep that momentum going.
29:10He just signed an executive order to stop the revolving door of repeat offenders taking
29:15direct aim at cashless bail.
29:18If you look at the top 25 cities that, for crime, just about every one of those cities
29:25is run by Democrats.
29:27And, you know, one of the bad things they did, cashless bail.
29:29If you look back on time, when they allowed a murderer out that afternoon, you know, he'd
29:35kill somebody and then a couple of hours later he's walking the streets again, oftentimes
29:39killing again rapidly.
29:41Cashless bail is a disaster.
29:43And it could be coming to a city near you.
29:46President Trump sees the D.C. crime crackdown as a successful model for other blue cities.
29:51And earlier, he threatened Chicago that it could be next.
29:55I have some slob like Pritzker criticizing us before we even go there.
30:00I made the statement that next should be Chicago because, as you all know, Chicago is a killing
30:03field right now.
30:05And they don't acknowledge it.
30:07And they say, we don't need him.
30:09Freedom, freedom.
30:09He's a dictator.
30:10He's a dictator.
30:11A lot of people are saying maybe we like a dictator.
30:14I don't like a dictator.
30:16I'm not a dictator.
30:17I'm a man with great common sense and a smart person.
30:21We may wait.
30:22We may or may not.
30:23We may just go in and do it, which is probably what we should do.
30:27But Chicago's leaders are not taking Trump's law and order proposal lightly.
30:31Illinois Governor J.B.
30:32Pritzker and Mayor Brandon Johnson both blasting the idea of the National Guard in the Windy City.
30:37We're going to remain firm.
30:38We'll take legal action.
30:40But the people of this city are accustomed to rising up against tyranny.
30:45I am on the path on the lakefront at 6 a.m.
30:50on a Monday.
30:52It doesn't feel like a hellhole here.
30:54In fact, everybody's having a great time and enjoying themselves.
30:59So, Emily, at 6 a.m.
31:02on a Monday on the waterfront in Chicago, it doesn't look like a hellhole.
31:06That's right.
31:06What a surprise.
31:07Exactly.
31:08And that's the problem is that when they try to gimmick in response to what is actually sincere and deep appreciation for American safety, then it's always going to fall flat.
31:17And I want to point out a little bit because all of this cashless bail that the president is trying to end, I want to talk about that specifically because it's a precursor to a lot of things.
31:27And in Texas, just in the Houston area alone, over 200 cases of low or no cash bonds who got out, they assaulted or killed someone.
31:36In Harris County, Texas, 115 residents killed just in one year alone.
31:40These are all of the people that get out with that low or cashless bail.
31:44And when you talk about deep statistics, on the zero dollar bail, 70 percent are rearrested.
31:50Now, this is in Yolo County, California, which is where I'm from.
31:53So I took it as a statistic that's important in Northern California.
31:57Those kinds of suspects are nearly three times more likely to be rearrested for violent crimes, including domestic violence.
32:04And a third of those violent rearrests are for DV.
32:07And it goes on. So I don't quite understand why these Democratic leaders feel so strongly about sort of selling out all of their residents in order to just have the president look bad.
32:18I understand that there is federalism issues, and that's why there will be a difficult time imposing an EO on what is traditionally obviously state and local realms crime.
32:27But at the end of the day, it's up to these guys in the state and local level to vote this cashless bail out to make it known that everyone supports these kind of policies that the president is putting down,
32:38because it's the state and local residents that are paying the price for the Dems not seeing this.
32:43And, Tyra, is getting the Democrats to defend basically lawlessness in Chicago by saying they're going to take legal action to stop it is a little bit of dissonance.
32:52I keep trying to find the opposition argument to this, because, Jesse, I think you coined the phrase 80-20 argument.
33:01Oh, yeah, yeah, that'd be Jesse.
33:03Jesse coined the phrase. You should probably trademark that.
33:05This is a 99.5 to .5.
33:09How can you, with a straight face, say, no, we don't want low crime?
33:15We don't want American soldiers coming in and helping our depleted police force.
33:20Whether you like it or not, good, bad, or indifferent, you had 10 million undocumented people coming to this country and spread variously all through the country.
33:27Everyone who traveled saw the midnight, we can't get red-eye flights, but they were getting red-eye flights to all over the country.
33:34And now we had defund the police.
33:37We had don't respect the police.
33:39We had massive police retirements, police officers.
33:42They go out, they arrest the guy.
33:44An hour later, they got to rearrest him.
33:45So the police department is depleted, and here is the next bet.
33:50If I was in the White House, this is one of the first things I would do.
33:53Clean up your streets.
33:54Instead of sending our military men and women out to other places to make other countries safe, make our streets safe.
34:00How is this an argument?
34:01If you don't like it, what's not to like?
34:04Other than that you have to tip your cat, your hat, to the orange devil.
34:09That's the problem.
34:10Then, you know what?
34:10Find a way, like, steal it and make it your own.
34:13Like, no, you will not bring in 1,500 National Guards.
34:16We will only allow 1,200.
34:18And then call it a victory.
34:20Clean up your neighborhoods.
34:22Leave the politicians out.
34:23Go out on the waterfront at 6 o'clock in the morning.
34:27But notice, he wasn't filming himself.
34:30I wonder who was with him.
34:31Perhaps his detail.
34:33Right.
34:33You know, like, this is laughable.
34:35Clean up your cities.
34:37I don't understand it.
34:37Jesse, the fight against crime has been one of the best.
34:40Let's see what Trump can do to put out some bait and see how many Democrats will take it.
34:45Yeah, they're falling into a trap.
34:47And so Axios, disparagingly, Dana, said that Trump is molding D.C. into his own personal Epcot Center.
34:54Yeah.
34:55A political theme park where troops keep the peace in the White House glitters like Mar-a-Lago.
34:59What's wrong with Epcot Center?
35:01I love the Epcot Center.
35:02I got food poisoning eating there, but it was safe and secure and beautiful.
35:07And if the president wants to make these cities look like Epcot, I'm for it.
35:11The guys now in D.C. are carrying, I think, 9mm and M4 rifles, and they're letting the police go into the bad neighborhoods and get the bad guys.
35:22That's not controversial.
35:23That's like what happens when you usually have a strike force come in and take scalps.
35:29The New York Post had some crazy examples of some of these people that got off on bail.
35:34They had two convicted killers arrested in Greenwich Village, down where my friend Harold Ford Jr. lives.
35:41They were trafficking drugs in the park, and they let him out for free.
35:47Or they have a pickpocket guy.
35:48He's been busted 45 times.
35:50Oh, my God.
35:5145 times.
35:52And he just gets loud out every time.
35:54They arrested a Tren del Agua gang member, Dana.
35:57Am I saying that correctly?
35:58Yes, it's that.
35:58Tren del Agua.
35:59Very good.
35:59Wanted for homicide.
36:01They arrested him.
36:03No bail.
36:04So that's just crazy, and everybody agrees.
36:06They're saying this is not a top issue.
36:08Crime was a top issue in November.
36:10Crime was a bigger issue than foreign affairs and the deficit.
36:16So if Trump is manufacturing a crisis, homicide is not a crisis.
36:21This culture war the Dems tried to wage with, like, trans and race doesn't stand a chance when it comes to crime and immigration.
36:30And it's not only good for policy, because obviously saving lives is important.
36:34It's great politics.
36:35You're going to send ICE guys to cities, and you're going to send National Guard to cities,
36:40and you're going to go city by city, week by week, and you're going to force the Democrats to defend crime and illegal aliens over and over and over again.
36:49Now, a majority of the crime is black on black.
36:51And I don't hear any black leaders, besides Harold Ford, Tyrus, and myself, talking about the need to reduce crime in these neighborhoods.
37:01Where is Barack Obama?
37:04Homicides exploded under Joe Biden in his home city of Chicago.
37:07Not Honolulu.
37:08Chicago.
37:09And he didn't say a word.
37:11It went from 600, 700, 800.
37:13Barack said nothing.
37:14What about Al Sharpton?
37:15Al Sharpton was sitting cross-legged at Martha's Vineyard next to Joy Reid the other day.
37:19He never talks about black-on-black crime.
37:22Donald Trump should win an NAACP Image Award if he can clean up – don't laugh – if he could clean up these black communities,
37:31because it is a real, real problem.
37:33He can put it next to the Nobel Peace Prize.
37:35Harold, is anyone wrong?
37:37Do you see it a little bit differently?
37:39I don't.
37:39It's good to be back around the table.
37:40I agree 100%.
37:41I'd be a supporter of President Trump getting that award.
37:45Let's step back.
37:45We deserve a lot of credit around this table for encouraging the president to do this.
37:49I think the U.S. attorney there obviously is a big instigator of these things, Ms. Pirro, our friend.
37:55But we've been saying for a while the president should sign an executive order ending Cassius Bell.
37:59They obviously have, as Assembly Reilly pointed out, their federal government has a different relationship with Washington, D.C.
38:05and can do these things.
38:06Two, what I don't understand, both sides seem to revel in trying to blame the other.
38:13Democrats, Republicans, everybody probably deserves a little blame here.
38:16Maybe one party deserves more than the other.
38:17But if I were the president, you can do this in Washington, and you should absolutely do it.
38:22In fact, I hope you send the National Guard to neighborhoods where the black-on-black crime rate is higher than it should be,
38:29where it's tragically high.
38:31Send it to every neighborhood, not just the neighborhoods where a couple of middle-class,
38:35self-middle-class people hang out and have dinner and socialize and go to clubs.
38:39Send it to all the neighborhoods.
38:40I'm a big believer that any politician, black or white, that resists that, to your point, Tyrus, is foolish,
38:47is playing a dangerous and ugly kind of politics.
38:50For those Democratic governors who say, well, we can't go to the White House because he's not going to be on a level with us,
38:56remember this, President Trump, less than three weeks ago, called for the firing of the head of Intel.
39:00He said that he was a China, might have been too close to China.
39:04Today it was announced at the president, with that same CEO, still the head of Intel,
39:08that we, the American people, are going to invest about $12 billion and take a stake in the company.
39:13President Trump can be persuaded.
39:14He welcomed Vladimir Putin to Alaska to try to deal with Ukraine.
39:19Let's go to the White House and figure out what is it that you need as governors of all these states.
39:23I think Governor Moore, who I think is doing a great job in Maryland,
39:26invited the president to come to Baltimore and walk the streets with him.
39:29I hope they are able to do this because, Tyrus, to your point,
39:32these are real problems that real people in real neighborhoods are experiencing.
39:36Can you imagine if they went in and figured out how to break these gangs up,
39:39how to break the mafia up in these cities,
39:41and they were working with local law enforcement and working with the governors?
39:43And if the governors, to the president's credit, if they choose not to be helpful,
39:47I'm one that says send them anyway.
39:49Because if you live in a neighborhood where crime is rampant,
39:52where violence is rampant, where you fear for your life,
39:55you don't really care what the Democratic governor or the Republican governor
39:58or the Democratic mayor or the socialist mayor, what they may be saying.
40:01You want your neighborhoods to be protected.
40:03So I say more power to you.
40:05I just hope they're able to collaborate and work together.
40:07If I could just piggyback real quick.
40:08They do realize that if you clean up the crime in these cities,
40:12you bring businesses back.
40:14You bring mom and pops back.
40:15You get actual grocery stores where the kids are no longer in grocery deserts.
40:19You fix a community by protecting it.
40:23It's mind-blowing.
40:24The guy that sits in your chair most nights,
40:26Greg Gutfeld deserves a lot of credit,
40:27because he's been asking for the president to sign an executive order to do this.
40:30This is a good start, Mr. President.
40:32I hope you keep going.
40:33All right.
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