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00:00I had breakfast this morning with the king and queen and their incredible people.
00:04I called, I said, your central casting.
00:07Beautiful people, great people, big, beautiful heart.
00:12And I enjoyed that.
00:14And also, NATO Secretary General Mark Rota, who's been terrific, he's been a friend of mine,
00:21used to be right here running this wonderful country.
00:26Now he's the NATO Secretary General, he's doing a fantastic job.
00:29And the Prime Minister, we appreciate everything you've done.
00:32And as you know, last weekend the United States successfully carried out a massive precision strike
00:39on Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities, and it was very, very successful.
00:47It was called obliteration.
00:49No other military on Earth could have done it.
00:51And now this incredible exercise of American strength has paved the way for peace,
00:57for the historic ceasefire agreement late Monday.
01:01And we call it the 12-day war.
01:04Spoke to a few people.
01:05I guess that just sounded like the right name.
01:08It was a 12-day war.
01:10And we think it's over.
01:12I don't think they're going to be going back at each other.
01:14I don't think so.
01:15Not only have we dealt decisively with the critical threat of Iran's nuclear program,
01:20which was what I wanted.
01:21I said, Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
01:24I've said that for 15 years, long before I decided to do the political thing.
01:30But we've also reasserted the credibility of American deterrence, which is like no other.
01:38The people at NATO said there's never been anything.
01:41You know, I rebuilt the entire military during my first term.
01:45And we have a great military.
01:47We have great generals.
01:49Got to know the good ones and the bad ones.
01:51We kept the good ones.
01:52Over the past two days, I was honored to participate in the NATO Leaders' Meeting
01:57and also had extremely good individual discussions with the King and the Queen,
02:03Secretary General Ruta, and the Prime Minister.
02:06Great discussions.
02:08Very knowledgeable people.
02:09Major focus of our conversations at the summit was the need for other NATO members
02:15to take up the burden of the defense of Europe.
02:19And that included the financial burden.
02:22And as you know, it was 2%, and we got it up to 5%.
02:26And they said, a couple of them came up to me.
02:29One in particular said, sir, we've been trying to get it up to 3% for 20 years,
02:34and we haven't been able, and you got it up to 5%.
02:36So they're going to be, most of them, I guess almost all of them,
02:39are going to be contributing now, 5%, a number that people are surprised at.
02:45But you need it today.
02:47The United States accounts for two-thirds of all NATO defense spending.
02:50And since I began pushing for additional commitments in 2017, believe it or not,
02:56our allies have increased spending by $700 billion.
03:01I said to people, you don't have any money.
03:03And a lot of them weren't paying.
03:05And so I started the process, and I picked it up as soon as I got back,
03:09which is six months ago.
03:11And following my election last November, almost all have accelerated plans to reach the 2%, 3%, 4%,
03:20and then ultimately, very quickly, 5%.
03:22And all of this is going to be done very quickly, almost immediately.
03:28You probably know this as well as I do.
03:30I'm sure they've been talking about it.
03:32It's really been a big focus.
03:34In a very historic milestone this week, the NATO allies committed to dramatically increase their defense spending
03:40to that 5% of GDP, something that no one really thought possible.
03:46And they said, you did it, sir.
03:48You did it.
03:48Well, I don't know if I did it, but I think I did.
03:52This will be known as the Hague defense commitment, which is pretty good, pretty appropriate.
03:58When the allies reach this number, it will add more than $1 trillion a year.
04:04Think of that $1 trillion per year to our common defense.
04:08And this is a monument really to victory, but it's a monumental win for the United States
04:16because we were carrying much more than our fair share.
04:19It was quite unfair, actually.
04:22But this is a big win for Europe and for actually Western civilization.
04:26For years, past administrations failed to get most allies to contribute, even the 2%.
04:33I remember when I came here, we had four countries that were up to 2%.
04:36And I remember Poland was there.
04:39A couple of them were there.
04:41But most of them were.
04:43We had 28 at the time.
04:44As you know, it's increased a little bit.
04:47And they've agreed now to more than double their budgets in all cases.
04:51And Europe stepping up to take more responsibility for its security will help prevent future disasters,
04:58like the horrible situation with Russia and Ukraine.
05:02And hopefully we're going to get that solved.
05:04Last week, they lost 7,000 soldiers, mostly soldiers.
05:08But they're also getting hit in Kiev.
05:10Kiev, they're getting hit in some of the towns also.
05:16And that means life.
05:18Life is disappearing also in the cities and towns.
05:20Should have never happened.
05:21Would have never happened if I was president.
05:23I've said it a thousand times.
05:26And it never did happen.
05:27Never even thought about.
05:28But it's vital that this additional money be spent on very serious military hardware, not bureaucracy.
05:37And hopefully that hardware is going to be made in America because we have the best hardware in the world.
05:42You saw that where 14 missiles were shot at us the other day.
05:47And they were very nice.
05:49They gave us warning.
05:51They said, we're going to shoot them.
05:52Is 1 o'clock okay?
05:54They said, it's fine.
05:55And everybody was emptied off the base.
05:58So they couldn't get hurt except for the gunners.
06:01They call them the gunners.
06:03And out of 14 high-end missiles that were shot at the base in Qatar, all 14, as you know, were shot down by our equipment.
06:13Amazing stuff.
06:14Amazing.
06:15That they can do.
06:16It's like shooting a bullet with a bullet.
06:18It's the same thing if you think about it.
06:2014 out of 14, and they were – they weren't even that surprised.
06:25I said, do you do that well often?
06:28They say, we pretty much do, sir.
06:31The Ukraine crisis has also highlighted the urgency of rebuilding our defense industrial base, both in the United States and among the allied nations.
06:40We cannot afford to be dependent on foreign adversaries for critical minerals.
06:46And as you know, we made a deal with Ukraine to take a vast amount of the land they have for minerals.
06:52We need it.
06:53And once again, I want to thank all of the people in the Netherlands, incredible people.
06:57It's a great place.
06:59And all of the NATO allies for the tremendous summit that we just had.
07:04A letter just came in, and a statement came in from the Atomic Energy Commission of Israel.
07:14And I just wondered – this is an official letter, and they're very serious people, as you know.
07:20The devastating U.S. strike on Fordo destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility totally inoperable.
07:29It was devastated.
07:30We assessed that the American strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities has set back Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons for many years to come.
07:41This achievement can continue indefinitely if Iran does not get access to nuclear material, which it won't.
07:50It's so sad that that whole thing had to go.
07:53But I just want to thank our pilots.
07:56You know, they were maligned and treated very bad, demeaned by fake news CNN, which is back there, believe it or not, wasting time.
08:03Wasting – nobody's watching them, so they're just wasting a lot of time.
08:07Wasting my time.
08:09And the New York Times, they put out a story that, well, maybe they were hit, but it wasn't bad.
08:14Well, it was so bad that they ended the war.
08:17It ended the war.
08:19Somebody said in a certain way that it was so devastating, actually.
08:24If you look at Hiroshima, if you look at Nagasaki, you know, that ended a war, too.
08:29This ended a war in a different way, but it was so devastating.
08:32Also, they have – out of Dubai just came that Iran's foreign ministry spokesman – this is Iran's foreign ministry – says it's near, its nuclear installations were very badly damaged by the American strike.
08:50So what bothered me about these reports were fake reports put out by the New York Times, failing – I call it the failing New York Times because it's doing terribly.
09:00Without me, it would be doing no business at all.
09:03But – and by fake news CNN and MSDNC, all of these terrible people.
09:10You know, they have no credibility.
09:13You know, when I started, they were at 94 percent credibility.
09:16The media – now it's at 16 percent, and I'm very proud of it because I've exposed it for what it is.
09:21But when I – when I saw them starting to question the caliber of the attack, was it bad?
09:31Well, it was really bad.
09:32It was devastating.
09:33They were obliterated.
09:34In fact, you can't get into the tunnels.
09:36They just put that over.
09:37That just came out.
09:38They can't – there's nothing – there's no way you can even get down.
09:40The whole thing has collapsed in a disaster.
09:42And I think all of the nuclear stuff is down there because it's very hard to remove.
09:47And we – we did it very quickly.
09:50When they heard we were coming, it was – you know, you can't move it.
09:53Very hard, very dangerous, actually, to move, too.
09:56And they also knew we were coming, so I don't think too many people want to be down there knowing we're coming.
10:01With the bunker busters, as we call them, we're the only ones that have them.
10:04We have the best equipment, best nuclear equipment, and we have the best equipment in the world.
10:08And, by the way, we can't forget our submarine, which was out there – submarines, actually.
10:14But submarine was out there.
10:15We shot 30 rockets into an area, every single one of them.
10:23I think it was almost 400 miles away, I think, Pete, right?
10:27400 and long.
10:30It was in the ocean, long ways away.
10:32And we shot – we shot a total of 30.
10:38Every single one of them hit within nine inches from where it was supposed to be.
10:42It took out a lot because we didn't do just Sporto.
10:45We did two others in addition, which hadn't been completely destroyed.
10:52So we hit them with a submarine from hundreds of miles away.
10:57Amazing.
10:57Just amazing equipment.
10:59Greatest submarines in the world.
11:01Nobody's even close.
11:02They're 20 years behind us when it comes to submarine technology.
11:06So that's one.
11:07And the other was from the Atomic Energy Commission.
11:13And they have about three or four of them now coming in from Atomic Energy Commissions from
11:18various places.
11:19But the one that we have that just came out – we released it a little while ago – was
11:24from the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission.
11:27But numerous of them are getting to see the site, and the site has been demolished.
11:32And, again, we had these brave patriots, these incredible flyers, these people that can fly
11:41a plane better than anybody can fly a plane, going into very hostile territory, flying into
11:46the territory that has got more missiles and things pointed at it.
11:52But it was very stealth.
11:54They didn't get to see it.
11:55It was dark.
11:56That's the amazing thing about the shots.
11:58They hit the shots perfectly, and yet it was dead dark.
12:01There was no moon.
12:01There was no light.
12:03It was virtually moonless.
12:06It was very dark, and they hit – the shots were hit perfectly.
12:09But when they get demeaned, and they were very upset about it because they knew how strong
12:13it would be back in Missouri, the pilots flew about 36 hours two ways, far distance, and
12:20in those incredible B-2s.
12:22And we then had the F-22s, and we had the F-35s, and we had other planes, and we had, I
12:28think, a total of 52 tankers.
12:29That means the big – the big tankers, because the refueling was a lot for all of the different
12:35planes that we sent.
12:36Incredible operation.
12:38And I have to say, General Raisin Cain was incredible.
12:42That's why he beat ISIS, and we beat ISIS in a matter of weeks.
12:45I was told it would take four to five years.
12:47We did it in a few weeks.
12:49And he was great.
12:50That's why he's the head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff right now, because I had a very good
12:55experience with him.
12:56He knocked out ISIS in a period of literally a few weeks.
13:00Amazing.
13:01And it was supposed to take a few years – five years, to be exact.
13:06So we had a great victory there, and we then came here, and I think we had a great victory
13:12here.
13:13But this is an ongoing project.
13:15This is the safety of Europe, the safety of the world.
13:19And they've raised it from 2 percent to 5 percent, something which nobody – and you're
13:22talking about over a trillion dollars a year.
13:25So we're talking about a lot of money from – coming in from countries that were not
13:30paying nearly enough to be effective.
13:32So I have, as you know, Marco Rubio with me, and Pete Hegseth, Secretary of State and
13:39Secretary of War – should we say Secretary – you know, it used to be called Secretary
13:43of War.
13:44Maybe for a couple of weeks we'll call it that, because we feel like warriors.
13:47It used to be called Secretary of War.
13:49In fact, if you look at the old building next to the White House, you can see where it
13:53used to be Secretary of War.
13:55And then we became politically correct, and they called it Secretary of Defense.
13:59I don't know.
14:00Maybe we'll have to start thinking about changing it.
14:02But we feel that way.
14:04Do we have any questions, please?
14:07Wow.
14:09That's a lot of questions.
14:12Who's a nice – oh, you're not a nice person, but I'll let you ask one.
14:17Go ahead.
14:18What's he going to ask?
14:19He is not nice at all.
14:21I know him well.
14:22Thank you, Mr. President.
14:24Yeah.
14:25Thank you for taking the time before flying home.
14:27You just said you believe the conflict between Israel and Iran is over.
14:32What makes you so confident it is, and what do you do if it isn't?
14:36Because I dealt with both, and they're both tired, exhausted.
14:40They fought very, very hard and very viciously, very violently.
14:46And they were both satisfied to go home and get out.
14:50And can it start again?
14:51I guess someday it can.
14:52It could maybe start soon.
14:54I think a big telltale sign was when, as you know, Iran somewhat, by not much, violated
15:03the ceasefire.
15:05And Israel had the planes going out that morning.
15:08There were a lot of them, 52 of them.
15:10And I said, you've got to get them back.
15:12And they brought them back.
15:13They didn't do anything.
15:14They brought them back.
15:15It was very good.
15:16I thought it was amazing, actually.
15:18They have fought a hell of a war.
15:21They fought very hard.
15:23I think the war ended, actually, when we hit the various nuclear sites with the planes.
15:28And I just hope you people can give these pilots – these are the best pilots in the
15:32world.
15:33They're the best shots in the world.
15:34They call them shots.
15:35That's what they are.
15:36And – wait a minute.
15:37And I just hope you can give them the respect they deserve, because they came home to fake
15:42news, and like, oh, gee, there was hardly any damage.
15:45The things are decimated.
15:47So – but I think – no, I think they're very much finished.
15:51I think Israel is going to get back to doing what they do.
15:54And I think that Iran is going to get back.
15:56You know, Iran has a huge advantage.
15:57They have great oil, and they can do things.
16:00I don't see them getting back involved in the nuclear business anymore.
16:05I think they've had it.
16:06They've been at it for 20 years, and I don't see that happening either.
16:09Now, if it does, we're always there.
16:12It won't be me.
16:13It'll be somebody else.
16:14But we're there.
16:15We'll have to do something about it.
16:16Yes.
16:17Please, go ahead.
16:18Go ahead.
16:19No fake news, CNN?
16:20I'll hold it.
16:21Oh, yeah, yeah.
16:22Here we go.
16:23Wait till you hear this question.
16:24Thank you, sir.
16:25You should really say how great our soldiers and our warriors are.
16:26I think everyone appreciates our soldiers and our warriors.
16:27I do have two questions for you, Mr. President.
16:28You just cited Israeli intelligence on these attacks.
16:29Earlier, you said U.S. intelligence was inconclusive.
16:32Are you relying on Israeli intelligence for your assessment of the impact of the strikes?
16:33No.
16:34No.
16:35No.
16:36No.
16:37This is also – Iran made the statement.
16:38And it's also – if you read the document that was given that Pete can talk about if you'd
16:39like.
16:40The document said it could be very severe damage.
16:41But they didn't know what the soldiers and our warriors are.
16:42I think everyone appreciates our soldiers and our warriors are.
16:43I think everyone appreciates our soldiers and our warriors.
16:44I do have two questions for you, Mr. President.
16:45You just cited Israeli intelligence on these attacks.
16:46Earlier, you said U.S. intelligence was inconclusive.
16:47And it's also – Iran made the statement.
16:48And it's also – if you read the document that was given that Pete can talk about if
16:57you'd like.
16:58The document said it could be very severe damage.
17:01But they didn't take that.
17:03They said it could be limited or it could be very severe.
17:06They really didn't know other than to say it could be limited or it could be very,
17:10very severe.
17:12And you didn't choose to put that because it was very early after.
17:15Since then, we've collected additional intelligence.
17:17We've also spoken to people who have seen the site.
17:20And the site is obliterated.
17:23And we think everything nuclear is down there.
17:26They didn't take it out.
17:27Okay.
17:28Question?
17:29Please go ahead.
17:30Go ahead.
17:31Yeah.
17:32Blue dress.
17:33Thank you so much, Mr. President.
17:35Yesterday, you said China can now continue to purchase oil from Iran.
17:40Yeah.
17:41Are you giving up on your maximum pressure campaign?
17:43With who?
17:44Are there sanctions right now?
17:45With who?
17:46On Iran?
17:47No.
17:48Look, they just had a war.
17:49The war was fought.
17:51They fought it bravely.
17:52I'm not giving up.
17:53They're in the oil business.
17:55I mean, I could stop it if I wanted.
17:57I could sell China the oil myself.
17:59I don't want to do that.
18:00They're going to need money to put that country back into shape.
18:03We want to see that happen.
18:05Would it?
18:06No.
18:07If they're going to sell oil, they're going to sell oil.
18:09We're not taking over the oil.
18:10We could have, you know.
18:11I used to say with Iraq, keep the oil.
18:12I could say it here, too.
18:13We could have kept the oil.
18:15No.
18:16China is going to want to buy oil.
18:18They can buy it from us.
18:19They can buy it from other people.
18:21But you're going to have to put that country back into shape.
18:24It needs – desperately needs money.
18:26Yeah.
18:27Mr. President.
18:28China, please.
18:29Here we go.
18:32I'm picking the beauties today.
18:35Go ahead.
18:36Mr. President, Secretary General Ruta has described President Putin as an adversary,
18:43a threat, an enemy.
18:45Do you view him the same way?
18:47And in addition to that, you mentioned General Cain, your chief of staff, the chairman of the
18:53Joint Chiefs of Staff.
18:54General Cain.
18:55Yes.
18:56He has said that Mr. Putin has territorial ambitions beyond Ukraine.
19:02Do you view that in the same way?
19:04It's possible.
19:05I mean, it's possible.
19:06I know one thing.
19:07He'd like to settle.
19:08He'd like to get out of this thing.
19:09It's a mess for him.
19:10He called the other day.
19:12He said, can I help you with Iran?
19:14I said, no, you can help me with Russia.
19:17Because, you know, in the last few weeks, we took care of India and Pakistan, Kosovo,
19:23Serbia.
19:24I think on Friday we have coming in, the Congo is coming in, and Rwanda is coming in.
19:31That was a vicious war that went on, a machete war.
19:34Heads chopped off all over Africa.
19:37They're coming in.
19:38And we did two others.
19:41In addition to that, nobody's ever done anything like this.
19:45No, I consider him a person that's, I think, been misguided.
19:51I'm very surprised, actually.
19:53I thought we would have had that settled.
19:55I've settled four of them in the meantime.
19:57But he did call up, and he said, you know, he's close to Iran.
20:01He'd like to help us get a settlement.
20:03I said, no, no.
20:04You help me get a settlement with you, with Russia.
20:07And I think we're going to be doing that, too.
20:09Yeah, please.
20:10Go ahead, please.
20:12Thank you, Mr. President.
20:14You've made clear your position on what impact the strikes had.
20:17I wanted to ask you what is next with Iran.
20:20For instance, is there any indication from U.S. intelligence that Iran was able to move any material?
20:26No, just the opposite.
20:28We think we hit them so hard and so fast they didn't get to move.
20:31And if you knew about that material, it's very hard and very dangerous to move.
20:35It's called, in many people, they call it dust.
20:39But it's very, very heavy.
20:41It's very, very hard to move.
20:43And they were way down.
20:44You know, they're 30 stories down.
20:47They're literally 30, 35 stories down underground.
20:50Oh, yeah, we think we got it.
20:52We think it's covered with granite.
20:55Granite, concrete, and steel.
20:58Can I ask you, are you interested in restarting negotiations with Iran?
21:02And if so, have they resisted?
21:03So, our people, Marco could answer this, but our people are not, I'm not.
21:11The way I look at it, they fought, the war's done.
21:14And, you know, I could get a statement that they're not going to go nuclear.
21:17We're probably going to ask for that.
21:19But they're not going to be doing it.
21:21But they're not going to be doing it anyway.
21:23They've had it.
21:24They've had it.
21:25Now, maybe someday in the future we'll want that.
21:28But I've asked Marco, do you want to draw – I just asked him the question as we were walking on the stage.
21:34Do you want to draw up a little agreement for them to sign?
21:36Because I think we can get them to sign it.
21:38I don't think it's necessary.
21:40Marco, do you want to talk about that, please?
21:43Well, Mr. President, I think you – President Trump has shown a willingness to meet and talk to anybody in the world who's interested in peace.
21:50I don't know of any president that's been as willing as he has to meet with anyone and talk about peace.
21:54We'd love to have peaceful relations with any country in the world.
21:57And so, obviously, that will depend on Iran's willingness not just to engage in peace, but to negotiate directly with the United States,
22:04not through some third country or fourth country process.
22:07But I know of no president probably in our modern history that's sought peace more than President Trump has.
22:14It sounds like the door is open, but you're in no rush.
22:17Is that right?
22:18It sounds like the door is open, but you're in no rush?
22:19I'll tell you what.
22:20Look, we're going to talk to them next week with Iran.
22:25We may sign an agreement.
22:26I don't know.
22:27To me, I don't think it's that necessary.
22:29I mean, they had a war.
22:30They fought.
22:31Now they're going back to their world.
22:32I don't care if I have an agreement or not.
22:34We – the only thing we'd be asking for is what we were asking for before about we want no nuclear.
22:40But we – we destroyed the nuclear.
22:42In other words, that's destroyed.
22:44I said Iran will not have nuclear.
22:47Well, we blew it up.
22:48It's blown up.
22:50The kingdom come.
22:51And so I don't feel very strongly about it.
22:54If we got a document, it wouldn't be bad.
22:56We're going to meet with them, actually.
22:58We're going to meet with them.
22:59Yeah, go ahead, please.
23:04Mr. President, Netherlands TV, thank you for visiting our country.
23:06Good.
23:08As you understood.
23:09I, of course, would like to know how you slept last night at the House of the King.
23:12Oh, I slept beautifully.
23:13But probably a more serious question.
23:15I think you just had a meeting with President Zelensky.
23:17Did you discuss any ceasefire in this Russo-Ukrainian group?
23:21No, no.
23:22I just – I wanted to know how he's doing.
23:24It was very nice, actually.
23:25We had a little rough times sometimes.
23:27He was – couldn't have been nicer.
23:30I think he'd like to see an end to this.
23:32I do.
23:33I think what I took from the meeting – couldn't have been nicer, actually.
23:37But I took from the meeting that he'd like to see it end.
23:40I think it's a great time to end it.
23:42I'm going to speak to Vladimir Putin and see if we can get it ended.
23:45But – but, look, these are brave people.
23:48They're fighting these wars all over the place.
23:51You know, last week they had – I guess close, I told you, seven – close to 7,000
23:58young soldiers.
23:59Russian and Ukrainian soldiers were killed – 7,000 in one week.
24:03It's crazy.
24:04It's crazy.
24:05So I'll be speaking to Putin.
24:07Now, I had a good meeting with Zelensky.
24:10And I had a lot of good meetings.
24:12We had a lot of good meetings with a lot of people, a lot of great leaders.
24:14But he's – he's fighting a brave battle.
24:15It's a tough battle.
24:16Yeah.
24:17Go ahead.
24:18White dress.
24:20Ida Hallikainen from Finland, Ilta Senomat.
24:21You have played golf with President Alexander Stub.
24:22How do you see Finland as a NATO ally and partner, and how would you describe your relationship
24:39with our president?
24:40Well, he's a very good golfer.
24:42Okay.
24:43In fact, he was on his college golf team.
24:46He went to a good college in the south, as you know, a very good college.
24:50And he was a good golfer.
24:51We had a good time.
24:52I think my relationship's great.
24:54I want to buy icebreakers.
24:56You know, you're very good at icebreakers.
24:59And I actually made him an offer.
25:02I didn't go to Congress.
25:04They'll try and impeach me for this.
25:06But there's an old – it's not old, it's fairly new, but it's used – icebreaker.
25:11And I offered him about one-third of what he asked for.
25:15But we're negotiating.
25:16We need icebreakers in the U.S.
25:18And if we can get some – inexpensively, I'd like to do that, actually.
25:21They'll fix it up, make it good.
25:23Also, we may buy some icebreakers.
25:25You know, you make – you're the king of icebreakers, that particular country.
25:30They make them good.
25:31They make them really good.
25:32And they know what they're doing.
25:34And so we're negotiating with them for about 15 different icebreakers.
25:38But one of them is available now.
25:39It's old.
25:40And it's, you know, old.
25:42It's like five, six years old.
25:44And we're trying to buy it.
25:45I'm trying to make a good deal.
25:47That's all I do my whole life.
25:49My whole life, that's all I do is make deals.
25:51Yeah, please.
25:52President.
25:53Go ahead.
25:54Sir, go ahead.
25:55All right.
25:56Okay.
25:57Yeah, question for NewsHour, Dutch TV.
26:00First of all, on Article 5, on your way here, you spoke about the commitment of the U.S.
26:05to Article 5, saying, I'll give you my definition once we're here.
26:09What is your definition?
26:10And may the U.S. commitment to Article 5 change in case some of the NATO members do not reach
26:17the threshold that was discussed today?
26:19My second question is, following up on a colleague on Iran, what intel reports do say
26:25that everything over there was obliterated?
26:28Yeah.
26:29Well, there are numerous of those reports, and they're coming out fast and furious.
26:33But the most respected ones we've already seen, and I will say that on a very confidential
26:40basis, they're looking at the reports, like numerous reports, and including people going
26:46to the site and checking the site.
26:48And they're going to be having, I guess you're going to be having over the next couple of
26:51days a full, we're going to encapsulate it.
26:55But no, the site was obliterated, just like I said it was.
26:58And just like the pilots should be given credit for.
27:01As far as Article 5, look, when I came here, I came here because it was something I'm supposed
27:10to be doing, but I left here a little bit differently.
27:14I said – I watched the heads of these countries get up, and the love and the passion that they
27:22showed for their country was unbelievable.
27:24I've never seen quite anything like it.
27:27They want to protect their country, and they need the United States.
27:31And without the United States, it's not going to be the same.
27:33And you can ask Mark or you can ask any of the people that were there.
27:38It was really moving to see it.
27:40They loved their country.
27:41They were so respectful of me because I'm the head of the United States.
27:45And I made – you know, the king of Saudi Arabia, when I was in – I was in the Middle
27:52East, so I was in Qatar for a different reason, not a reason to get shot at.
27:57We were in there for economic development reasons.
28:00Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia – all three leaders of those countries.
28:04And we took back $5.1 trillion into the United States.
28:08All three leaders said, you know, you're presiding over the hottest country in the world.
28:12The United States right now is the hottest country.
28:14Everybody wants to be there.
28:15Everybody – everybody wants a piece of it.
28:18He said, a year ago, your country was dead.
28:21You had a deadhead running it.
28:23You had a country that was dead, and it was dead.
28:26You had people pouring through the borders.
28:28You had inflation.
28:29You had everything.
28:30He said, you've made it in five months at that time.
28:34You've made it the hottest country.
28:36This is the hottest country in the world.
28:37The United States right now is the hottest country in the world.
28:40And when I was around that table, it was a nice group of people, many of whom I knew from previous.
28:49When I saw the passion they had for the country, almost everyone – and you probably have the tapes.
28:54It was very public.
28:55But almost every one of them said, thank God for the United States.
28:59Without the United States, we couldn't – they couldn't really have NATO.
29:02It wouldn't work.
29:03It wouldn't work.
29:04It will in the future, because now they're paying much more money.
29:06But it wouldn't work.
29:10It was great.
29:11And I left here differently.
29:12I left here saying that these people really love their countries.
29:16It's not a ripoff.
29:17And we're here to help them protect their country.
29:21Okay, we'll do one or two more.
29:24Thank you, Mr. President.
29:26A question on Spain.
29:28Are you satisfied with today?
29:30Oh, I think Spain is terrible what they've done.
29:33No, I do.
29:34They're the only country that won't pay the full up.
29:37They want to stay at 2 percent.
29:38I think it's terrible.
29:39And, you know, they're doing very well.
29:40The economy is very well.
29:42And that economy could be blown right out of the water with something bad happening.
29:46No, Spain is the only country that – are you from Spain?
29:48Yeah.
29:49Good.
29:50Congratulations.
29:51You're the only country that is not paying.
29:53I don't know what the problem is.
29:55It's – I think it's too bad.
29:56So we'll make it up.
29:57You know what we're going to do?
29:58We're negotiating with Spain on a trade deal.
30:01We're going to make them pay twice as much.
30:03And I'm actually serious about that.
30:04We're going to make Spain – I like Spain.
30:06I have so many people from Spain that it's a great place and they're great people.
30:11But Spain is the only country out of all of the countries that refuses to pay.
30:21And, you know, so they want a little bit of a free ride.
30:25But they'll have to pay it back to us on trade because I'm not going to let that happen.
30:28It's unfair.
30:29It's unfair to – all right, sir, please.
30:31Go ahead.
30:32Right in the back.
30:33Yeah.
30:34You, tall one.
30:35The tall man.
30:36Mr. President, Johannes Petra from Austrian National Television.
30:41How are you?
30:42You once said that you would end the Ukraine war in 24 hours.
30:46You later said – you said that sarcastically.
30:48Of course it was sarcastic.
30:49But you've now been in office for five months and five days.
30:54Why have you not been able to end the Ukraine war?
30:57Because it's more difficult than people would have any idea.
31:02Vladimir Putin has been more difficult.
31:05Frankly, I had some problems with Zelensky.
31:07You may have read about him.
31:09And it's been more difficult than other wars.
31:11I mean, look, we just ended a war in 12 days that was simmering for 30 years, frankly.
31:16We ended Rwanda and the Congo.
31:20They're coming to sign the documents.
31:22We've already signed basic documents, but they're coming, I think, to the White House on Friday.
31:28We ended – Serbia was going to go at it.
31:32But maybe the most important of all, India and Pakistan.
31:37And that wasn't whether or not they may someday have nukes, like we're talking about in the Middle East,
31:43like we're talking about with Israel and Iran.
31:47This is the half-nuclear weapons.
31:49I ended that with a series of phone calls on trade.
31:53I said, look, if you're going to go fighting each other – it's going to – it was getting very bad.
31:58You know how bad that last attack was.
32:00It was really bad.
32:01If you're going to go fighting each other, we're not doing any trade deal.
32:04No, no, no, you have to do a trade deal.
32:06I said, we're not doing any trade deal.
32:08And, in fact, I had the general, who really was very impressive.
32:12The general from Pakistan was in my office last week.
32:19You know, Prime Minister Modi is a great friend of mine.
32:22He's a great gentleman.
32:23He's a great man.
32:24And I got them to reason.
32:25I said, we're not doing a trade deal if you're going to fight.
32:27And if you're going to fight each other, we're not doing a trade deal.
32:30And you know what?
32:31He said, no, I want to do the trade deal.
32:33We stopped the nuclear war.
32:34Go ahead.
32:35Go ahead, Jeff.
32:38Here's another beauty, Jeff.
32:41Here's that beauty, all right.
32:43Go ahead.
32:44Mr. President, a follow-up on Ukraine.
32:47Will the United States contribute any more money to Ukraine's defense this year, to the
32:51five billion that allies are giving?
32:53And one question, you had another meeting with the Dutch opposition leader, Mr. Wilders.
32:57Can you tell us about that meeting?
32:59And are you upset about his anti-Muslim stance?
33:02I'm not upset about it.
33:04It's just his view.
33:05He's unhappy with the way things are going in this country and various countries.
33:09He was an opposition leader.
33:11And I was asked to meet with the opposition leader by the people that are running.
33:15I think they have some deal where if you have a meeting, you're supposed to meet with
33:18an opposition leader.
33:19I said, that's strange.
33:21That's – we don't do that.
33:22But I met with the – I don't – I didn't know him.
33:25He seemed like a very nice guy.
33:27But he's in opposition to the current people, and that was set up by the current people.
33:31So I assume when I met with the prime minister, you're supposed to meet with the opposition.
33:36We'll have to try that sometime in our country.
33:39Let's not do it.
33:40But he was – he was – I thought he was very good.
33:44As far as money going, we'll see what happens.
33:48There's a lot of spirit.
33:50Look, Vladimir Putin really has to end that war.
33:53People are dying at levels that people haven't seen before for a long time.
33:57Go ahead.
33:58Go ahead.
33:59I – I – I –
34:00White shirt.
34:01Oh, she's all excited.
34:02Okay.
34:03So, BBC News Ukrainian.
34:04I would like to ask you –
34:05Where are you from?
34:06I'm from Ukraine.
34:07Oh.
34:08Oh.
34:09So my question to you is whether or not the U.S. is ready to sell anti-air missile systems,
34:20Patriot, to Ukraine.
34:21We know that Russia has been pounding Ukraine really heavily right now.
34:25Are you living yourself now in Ukraine?
34:27When you –
34:28My husband is there.
34:29Wow.
34:30And –
34:31I can see you're very – you know, it's amazing.
34:32And me with the kids – I'm in Warsaw, actually, because he wanted me to be there.
34:37Is your husband a soldier now?
34:39He is.
34:40He's there now?
34:41Yeah.
34:42Wow.
34:43That's rough stuff, right?
34:44That's tough.
34:45And you're living here?
34:46In Warsaw.
34:47And you're a reporter?
34:48I am.
34:49Good.
34:50So, let me just tell you, they do want to have the anti-missile missiles, okay, as they call
34:56the Patriots.
34:57And we're going to see if we can make some available, you know?
35:01They're very hard to get.
35:02We need them, too.
35:03We were supplying them to Israel.
35:05And they're very effective – 100 percent effective.
35:08Hard to believe how effective.
35:10And they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know.
35:13That's a very good question, and I wish you a lot of luck.
35:16I mean, I can see it's very upsetting to you.
35:19So say hello to your husband, okay?
35:24Go ahead.
35:26Thank you, Mr. President.
35:27You were criticizing –
35:28Where are you from?
35:29Bloomberg News.
35:30Oh, Bloomberg.
35:31That's wonderful.
35:32You were criticizing the Federal Reserve Chair before coming to this summit.
35:33I think he's terrible.
35:34I was wondering if you've begun interviewing different candidates for the Fed pick.
35:47Yeah, I know within three or four people who are all going to pick.
35:51I mean, he goes out pretty soon, fortunately, because I think he's terrible.
35:56We have no inflation.
35:57We have a tremendous economy.
35:59Hundreds of billions of dollars of tariff money is pouring in.
36:02Factories are being built because they don't want to pay the tariffs, so they're building them all over the country.
36:07I think we're close to $15 trillion – I told you $5.1 trillion from the Middle East alone – but of investment money coming in.
36:14There's never been anything like that in the history of our country.
36:17But we have no inflation.
36:19And we have borrowing – because Biden, stupidly, they did short-term debt.
36:24So we have borrowing coming up.
36:26And, you know, we'll go 10 years, maybe longer, maybe shorter, but we'll go a long period of time when we do the debt.
36:32And because of him, because of this guy, we will have to pay – for years we'll be paying for him.
36:40And I said to him, listen, there's no inflation.
36:43He says, but maybe there'll be some.
36:45That's true.
36:46I said, if there is some, what you do is raise the rate.
36:49I'm okay with that.
36:50You raise the rate in two years from now or in a year from now.
36:53But because the rate's high, we have to pay more for debt.
36:56It's pretty equal.
36:57In other words, if it's 4%, it's 4%.
36:59If you drop it a point, you'll pay 3%.
37:01So it's fairly equal – not necessarily, but fairly equal.
37:04So we're going to end up paying maybe two points or three points more.
37:08Three points would be about $900 billion a year because of this very average mentally person.
37:17He's an average mentally person.
37:19I'd say low in terms of what he does.
37:22Low.
37:23Low IQ for what he does.
37:26Okay?
37:27Wait.
37:28So instead of paying $900 billion – we don't want to pay $900 just because he doesn't want to lower the rate.
37:38I said, if there's inflation in two years or three years or one year from now, you raise the rate and you take care of the inflation, among other things.
37:47But he's probably a very political guy, I guess.
37:51I don't know.
37:52I think he's a very stupid person, actually.
37:54All right.
37:55One more.
37:56Let's go.
37:57How about you?
37:58Go ahead.
37:59She looks so happy and everything.
38:01I'm from Spain, too.
38:02I'm from La Vanguardia.
38:03I wanted to know if you –
38:04You're where from?
38:05Spain, too.
38:06I wanted to know if you want to negotiate –
38:08That's the Spain corner right there.
38:10You shouldn't have said that.
38:11That's okay.
38:12I do like Spain, by the way.
38:13I think it's unfair that they're not paying, but go ahead.
38:15Are you going to negotiate directly with Spain about –
38:18I'm going to negotiate directly with Spain.
38:20I'm going to do it myself.
38:21They're going to pay.
38:22They'll pay more money this way.
38:25You should tell them to go back and pay.
38:27You're a reporter.
38:28Tell them to go back.
38:29They ought to join all of those countries that are paying 5%.
38:34Spain's going to be just about the only one that's not.
38:37They were the most hostile toward doing it.
38:40It just doesn't make sense to me.
38:42Okay.
38:43All right.
38:44Kelly, go ahead.
38:47Here we go.
38:48Here's another one.
38:50Hello, sir.
38:51Thank you very much.
38:52We got them all today.
38:53Okay.
38:54So, Mr. President, you talked about expecting some on-the-ground assessments at Fordow and
38:58other sites.
38:59Is that Israeli and U.S.?
39:02It's been obliterated, Kelly.
39:04It's been obliterated.
39:05What is your message then, sir, to the intelligence community when they present reports?
39:09You're not disputing the DIA report.
39:11You're just –
39:12They presented a report that wasn't finished.
39:14We're talking about something that took place three days ago.
39:17I understand that, sir.
39:18It was an initial assessment.
39:19The report was done two days ago.
39:20So what is your –
39:21Wait a minute.
39:22Yes.
39:23They didn't see it.
39:24All they can do is take a guess.
39:25Now, if you take a look at the pictures, if you take a look how it's all blackened,
39:28you know the fire and brimstone is all underground because it's granite and it's all underground.
39:33You don't show it.
39:34But even there, with all of that being said, the whole area for 75 yards around the hole
39:42where it hit is black with fire.
39:45The group that's run by this gentleman – in fact, you may want to talk about it for a second,
39:50because we're going to issue a report.
39:52And I think it's not even a very exciting report at this point.
39:56It's been obliterated, totally obliterated.
39:59And they did a report, but it was like – if you look at the dates, it's just a few days after it happened.
40:06Understood, sir.
40:07So they didn't see it.
40:08They said it may be very severe.
40:10Understood.
40:11Do you have a message for the intelligence community, though, in terms of unvarnished information getting to you?
40:16That it's not just –
40:17I don't really have a message.
40:18I would say issue the report when you know what happened.
40:22I wouldn't say that it could be severe or maybe not.
40:24They used the word severe.
40:26It could be severe or maybe it's not.
40:28And briefly –
40:29So people like you picked up and said, oh, it's not severe.
40:32We're just looking for the answer.
40:33No, the report was not a complete report.
40:35Yeah, the message was probably wait until you know the answer before you – go ahead.
40:39And, sir, did you not have a public opponent to your Zelensky meeting for a tactical reason with President Putin?
40:45Let him answer that.
40:46Hello, Mr. Secretary.
40:47Yeah.
40:48There's a reason the president calls out fake news for what it is.
40:53These pilots, these refuelers, these fighters, these air defenders, the skill and the courage it took to go into enemy territory flying 36 hours on behalf of the American people in the world
41:04to take out a nuclear program is beyond what anyone in this audience can fathom.
41:09And then the instinct, the instinct of CNN, the instinct of the New York Times is to try to find a way to spin it for their own political reasons,
41:20to try to hurt President Trump or our country.
41:23They don't care what the troops think.
41:24They don't care what the world thinks.
41:26They want to spin it to try to make him look bad based on a leak.
41:30Of course, we've all seen plenty of leakers.
41:32And what do leakers do?
41:33They have agendas.
41:34And what do they do?
41:35Do they share the whole information or just the part that they want to introduce?
41:39And when they introduce that preliminary – a preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment – you know what a low assessment means?
41:49Low confidence in the data in that report.
41:52And why is there low confidence?
41:53Because all of the evidence of what was just bombed by 12, 30,000-pound bombs is buried under a mountain, devastated and obliterated.
42:03So if you want to make an assessment of what happened at Fordow, you better get a big shovel and go really deep because Iran's nuclear program is obliterated.
42:13And somebody somewhere is trying to leak something to say, oh, with low confidence we think maybe it's moderate.
42:20Those that dropped the bombs precisely in the right place know exactly what happened when that exploded.
42:27And you know who else knows?
42:28Iran.
42:29That's why they came to the table right away because their nuclear capabilities have been set back beyond what they thought were possible because of the courage of a commander-in-chief who led our troops despite what the fake news wants to say.
42:42But you're not disputing the report said what it said even though it was initial.
42:47The report said what it said, and it was fine.
42:50It was severe, they think, but they had no idea.
42:53They shouldn't have issued a report until they did.
42:55But we've gotten the information, and I think Pete said it better than you can say it.
42:59And you know, you should be proud – you, especially you – should be proud of those pilots, and you shouldn't be trying to demean them.
43:07Those pilots flew at great risk, big chance that they'd never come back home and see their husbands or their wives.
43:14Let me just tell you, you and NBC, fake news, which is one of the worst, and CNN, New York Times, they're all bad.
43:22They're sick.
43:23There's something wrong with them.
43:24You know what?
43:25You should be praising those people instead of trying to find – by getting me, by trying to go and get me, you're hurting those people.
43:32They were devastated.
43:33You know, I got a call from Missouri, great state, and I won three times by a lot.
43:38And I got a call that the pilots and the people on the plane were devastated because they were trying to minimize the attack.
43:46And they all said it was hit.
43:48But, oh, but we don't think it was really maybe hit that badly.
43:51And they were devastated.
43:53They put their lives on the line, and then they have – and I'm not referring to you, but real scum, real scum come out and write reports that are as negative as they could possibly be.
44:05It should be the opposite.
44:06You should make them heroes and heroines.
44:10You should make them really people that – they were so devastated when they heard this news.
44:16And you know what they said?
44:17One of them – I spoke to one of them – he said, sir, we hit the site.
44:21It was perfect.
44:22It was dead on because they don't understand fake news because they have a normal life except they have to fly very big, very fast planes.
44:32But it's a shame.
44:33You should be making them heroes.
44:34All right.
44:35In the back.
44:36Go ahead.
44:37Back.
44:38White.
44:39Yeah.
44:40White jacket.
44:41Yeah.
44:42Go ahead.
44:43Give my mic.
44:44Hello.
44:45Deborah Haynes from Sky News.
44:48Good.
44:49Mark Rutter, the NATO chief, who is your friend, he called you daddy earlier.
44:56Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children?
45:00No, he likes me.
45:01I think he likes me.
45:02If he doesn't, I'll let you know.
45:04I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay?
45:06He did it very affectionately.
45:08Daddy, you're my daddy.
45:09Do you regard your NATO allies, though, as kind of like children?
45:13And they're obviously listening to you, and they're spending more.
45:16And you're obviously appreciative of that.
45:19But do you hope that actually they're going to be able to defend themselves, defend Europe on their own?
45:25I think they need help a little bit at the beginning, and I think they'll be able to.
45:28But in the end.
45:29And I think they're going to remember this day.
45:31And this was a big day for NATO.
45:33You know, this was a very big day.
45:34They took it.
45:35And one of the gentlemen said, you know what?
45:37We've been trying to raise money for – raise the rate for 30 years, he said.
45:4220 years from almost the beginning.
45:44And he's been there for a long time.
45:46He said, until you came along, it never happened.
45:48What you did is amazing.
45:49It's been sort of an amazing day for a lot of reasons, but also for that.
45:53Yeah, go ahead.
45:54Can they do it without you, though, in the future?
45:56Can they do it without the United States?
45:57Well, ask Mark.
45:58I mean, you have to ask Mark.
46:00Okay?
46:01So we're heading back.
46:03We're heading back.
46:04I want to thank these two gentlemen behind me.
46:06They're incredible people, both of them.
46:08They're really – they've done a fantastic job.
46:10And Susie's in the front, and she's done great.
46:13And Monica, thank you very much.
46:15It was quite an exciting time.
46:18And we're going to be heading back.
46:20We'll be back sooner.
46:21We'll see you in Washington, D.C.
46:23Remember this.
46:24We have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
46:27Thank you very much, everybody.
46:55We'll see you next time.
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